Karl Rove, former senior aide to President Bush, spoke to a hostile crowd at the University of Iowa yesterday evening. Students and local citizens protested his appearance at the university and “staged a mock trial” for Rove inside the student union before the speech.
During the lecture, Rove lashed out at hostile questioners, telling one man his comment showed “a simple, stupid mind” and chastised what he said were “stupid statements” from the audience. Rove also said that former Amb. Joseph Wilson “lied” about his 2002 trip to Niger and accused an audience member of “perpetuating libel” on the U.S. military for asking about the real number of deaths in the Iraq war:
After Rove said most Western intelligence agencies agreed that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction prior to the war, Durham said, “When I had dinner with Joe Wilson, that’s not what he said.”
“With all do respect, Joe Wilson lied about his [intelligence gathering] trip to Africa,” Rove responded, drawing more boos. [...]
When an audience member asked him about the “true” body count in Iraq, Rove accused the individual of “perpetuating libel on the military of the United States by accusing them of killing innocent Iraqis.”
Responding to a question about CIA operative Valerie Plame Wilson’s outing, Rove, seemingly joking, added:
I haven’t been indicted yet, but I fully expect to be by the end of the year.
The University paid Rove $40,000 for the speech and had to agree to limit “recording equipment and flash photography” to “the first five minutes of the lecture.” At the end of the talk, an audience member shouted at Rove: “Can we have our $40,000 back?” Rove replied: “No, you can’t.”
Perhaps Rove needs to keep the $40,000 in expectation of substantial legal fees.
is there a tree limb strong enough to hold rove?
March 10th, 2008 at 11:58 amRove is being treated the way that all disgraced, former officials need to be treated. For too long, we have permitted Ollie North and the leftovers from Nixon's administration to assume positions of public prominence. It is time to teach public officials that unethical and illegal conduct in office will not result in a cushy public life afterwards.
March 10th, 2008 at 11:59 amThere were no police there to arrest him?
March 10th, 2008 at 11:59 amSimple solution...Firing Squad.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:00 pmRight on, JMOHR.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:01 pmWhy would any public institution pay $40K to hear this man speak? He was already on the public payroll and we know what he has to say. The only time I would pay to hear him speak is under oath.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:01 pmForget the $40,000. Can we have our government back?
March 10th, 2008 at 12:01 pmRove: ‘I Fully Expect To Be Indicted By The End Of The Year’
...and raped in a prison shower three weeks after that.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:02 pmUniversity of Iowa are idiots for paying $40,000 to have this guy speak. If I was a student there, I don't think I'd feel my tuition money was being well spent.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:02 pmHes such a fat F@cking A$$hole... a fully partisan lying scumbag with zero credibility.
He needs to be arrested today
he should do 10 years.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:03 pmMe no want new thingies catch me words when I talk like caveman boss-helper me really am.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:03 pmKKKarl is a dangerous man, left to his own devices.
KKKarl is more dangerous, left to his vices.
Americans should not have to watch a treasonous criminal be paid to lie.
Is he scheduled to speak in Vermont?
I certainly hope so...
March 10th, 2008 at 12:04 pm"I" should be "me". I hate when good grammar gets in the way of a good slam.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:04 pmI don’t think I’d feel my tuition money was being well spent.
Comment by DigDug — March 10, 2008 @ 12:02 pm
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its only about $5 per student, its part of the "activity fee" or whatever they call it. obviously it could have been spent better
March 10th, 2008 at 12:06 pm“With all do respect, Joe Wilson lied about his [intelligence gathering] trip to Africa,†Rove responded, drawing more boos.
Boy , that's truly believable coming from the same skid mark whose entire history is a sorry list and legacy of smear campaigns and bullshit rhetoric...................
March 10th, 2008 at 12:06 pmRove: ‘I Fully Expect To Be Indicted By The End Of The Year’
…and raped in a prison shower three weeks after that.
Comment by Fritz — March 10, 2008 @ 12:02 pm
Ewwww. I wouldn't rape him with your shank.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:07 pm"I haven’t been indicted yet, but I fully expect to be by the end of the year."
And that's why he hasn't been seeking any new clients.
Imagine a candidate with this fat albatross perched on his campaign, and visions of turbulent seas and shipwrecks naturally come to mind.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:08 pmLet's not disappoint him.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:09 pmIndict and convict.
Bring it on.
And, Karl, please drop the soap.
What goes around comes around.
This is one case where I hope his "math" is correct.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:09 pmRove: ‘I Fully Expect To Be Indicted By The End Of The Year’
And we do too. We also expect you to being in prison garb within the next couple of years, along with Bush and Cheney, hope you like prison, porky.
Buck Hussein Fush
March 10th, 2008 at 12:09 pmHere's a good story about Student Reaction and Protests re: Rove's visit in Iowa City.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=PluckPersona&U=c93e5f51e57d4a1696a5e44246b6eb53&plckController=PersonaBlog&plckScript=personaScript&plckElementId=personaDest&plckPersonaPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3ac93e5f51e57d4a1696a5e44246b6eb53Post%3abd8fae27-92e3-426b-a23c-d5df55e2f80a&sid=sitelife.desmoinesregister.com
March 10th, 2008 at 12:10 pmLee Atwater's fate is too good for Karl.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:10 pm-Cal Hussein Malenky
For those who are lucky enough to ask Mr. Rove a question, please keep it factual and corner this snake. To show your anger to this man when you only have one question to ask isn't going to dent this neocon.
Ask about the emails, ask about Plame and Wilson at every opportunity and keep it factual. He'll use every inflammed and emmotional question as proof of the looney left. Don't give him the ammo.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:10 pmheh, heh, guillotine! guillotine, ha, ha.!
March 10th, 2008 at 12:10 pmI thought TRAITORS were executed, not given $40,000 to tell more lies.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:11 pmKarl may have finally realized that earning political $$$ while serving as a government officer is illegal - and could land him serious jail time.
No doubt he was raking in significant $$$ from the RNC and from other candidates while working in the White House.
Totally illegal.
It always come down to $.
Enjoy it while you can, Karl.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:11 pm…and raped in a prison shower three weeks after that.
Comment by Fritz
Jail is meant to be a punishment.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:11 pmRove - again? Since he has left I have seen more of him then I ever did when he still worked at the White House. Go figure.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:12 pmKKK Rove sez; they're coming to take me away, ha, ha. They're coming to take me away, ho, ho, hee, hee, to the guillotine with me.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:12 pmA Rove indictment would be a great day for America.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:13 pmLee Atwater’s fate is too good for Karl.
-Cal Hussein Malenky
Comment by Cal Malenky — March 10, 2008 @ 12:10 pm
he's more deserving of mussolini's fate!
March 10th, 2008 at 12:17 pmA Rove execution would be a great day for America.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:17 pmWith all due respect, Mr. Rove, you are a despicable, lying, manipulative, hateful, evil, bottom-dwelling perverter of American politics and morality who prostituted himself to pleasure other equally corrupt, greedy, low-life scum seeking to gain political power to fatten their wallets and already bulging egos.
$40, 000 - pretty good wages for one little piss.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:18 pmThere you go again, TP -- teasing us again. Turned out Rove was only joking.
But if we actually COULD get some investigation into and accountability for voter caging, Diebold mischief, U.S. Attorney manipulating, dirty tricks in general (and those are just ROVE'S misdeeds), and all the other alleged crimes of this administration, it will be a great day in America.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:18 pmThe Furies are pursuing Rove, Gonzales, Mukasey... the list goes back quite a bit.
Should have been more careful listing the criteria of those you labeled evildoers, GWB. Called the Pursuers down, you did.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:18 pmThe University paid Rove $40,000 for the speech and had to agree to limit “recording equipment and flash photography†to “the first five minutes of the lecture.â€
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That should be a deal breaker right there.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:18 pmLee Atwater’s fate is too good for Karl.
Comment by Cal Malenky — March 10, 2008 @ 12:10 pm
Atwater's fate was too good for Atwater.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:19 pmKarl Rove sold his Ingram, TX bed and breakfast business "River Oaks Lodge" to a political consultant/business partner in 2003. Rove received $$ over the assessed value of the business.
This is one of many illegal payoffs that Rove seems to have accepted while drawing his $161,000 government salary.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:19 pmWow, I'm glad to see someone finally stand up to this a$$hole. I would have loved to be there and watch Rove implode. I truly hope that he is right and that he will be indicted by the end of the year. But, I doubt it will happen. Look at how the Democrats have handled Meiers and Bolton. If they are any example, the Republicans will be out of office for a very long time before they are ever brought to justice.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:22 pmHere’s a good story about Student Reaction and Protests re: Rove’s visit in Iowa City.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/ apps/ pbcs.dll/ section?category=PluckPersona&U=c93e5f51e57d4a1696a5e44246b6eb53&plckController=PersonaBlog&plckScript=personaScript&plckElementId=personaDest&plckPersonaPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3ac93e5f51e57d4a1696a5e44246b6eb53Post%3abd8fae27-92e3-426b-a23c-d5df55e2f80a&sid=sitelife.desmoinesregister.com
Comment by Attaturk — March 10, 2008 @ 12:10 pm
I especially liked the "off the pig" chant. Good Times.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:23 pmwhere's a dog sh!t-filled water balloon when you need one?
March 10th, 2008 at 12:23 pmWe should be reminding college campuses all across the country to not feed this pig's defense fund one dime.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:25 pmAtwater’s fate was too good for Atwater.
Comment by missmolly — March 10, 2008 @ 12:19 pm
I wouldn't wish brain cancer on anyone. But at least it gave Lee Atwater the chance to repent for some of his political sins and apologize to some of the people he made a career of attacking.
Somehow I just don't see his protege Rove doing that. He's going to go to his grave believing that the horrible ends justified the horrible means.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:26 pmHe’s going to go to his grave believing that the horrible ends justified the horrible means.
Comment by toasterhead — March 10, 2008 @ 12:26 pm
The sooner, the better.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:27 pmThat $40,000 needs to be liberated.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:32 pmComment by toasterhead — March 10, 2008 @ 12:26 pm
No, you're right -- cancer shouldn't be wished on anyone. I'm sorry that Lee Atwater didn't survive long enough to see the wreckage his dirty tricks ultimately brought to America.
I do believe his remorse at the end of his life was genuine, but if he had not had the cancer and was still alive today, I'm not so sure he would be anything but proud of the totalitarian state the neocons have built.
Even Rove could be contrite under the right circumstances. Getting broken does funny things to people. There was a time I couldn't imagine George Wallace apologizing for his segregationist actions, yet that's exactly what he spent the last years of his life doing.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:33 pmRove deserves a large dose of Shock & Awe from We the People.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:33 pmKKKarl, GSY (Go Snark Yourself)
p.s. -- I think the proper fate for this felon would be to stick an apple in his mouth and roast him on a spit for a day; then he could be the true guest of honor at the University of Iowa's next pig-roast/beer-bash
March 10th, 2008 at 12:36 pmIf they are any example, the Republicans will be out of office for a very long time before they are ever brought to justice.
Comment by Bilbo Hussein Baggins — March 10, 2008 @ 12:22 pm
We also need to remember that the Republicans probably won't be out of office forever, so we have only a window to work with. Furthermore, if the Democrats don't come in, clean up the mess, and exhibit some Rooseveltian leadership, that window could be very small.
Remember when the Dems thought the Republicans would take forever to rebuild after Watergate in 1974? Only six years later, Reagan was elected in 1980.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:36 pmWinning is all that's mattered to Rove.
Congrats, KKKarl! You've 'won' the disrespect & shame of America.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:36 pmRove' s head impaled on a pike on London Bridge, to be viewed by all the other BushCo traitors as they float down on the way through Traitors' Gate.
He deserves nothing less.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:38 pmFiguratively speaking, of course ; )
karl paused in his speech to sing a remarkably good rendition of "born free".
(in case you forgot the words)
Born free, as free as the wind blows
As free as the grass grows
Born free to follow your heart
Live free and beauty surrounds you
The world still astounds you
Each time you look at a star
Stay free, where no walls divide you
You're free as the roaring tide
So there's no need to hide
Born free, and life is worth living
But only worth living
'cause you're born free
(Stay free, where no walls divide you)
You're free as the roaring tide
So there's no need to hide
Born free, and life is worth living
But only worth living
'cause you're born free!
*
March 10th, 2008 at 12:39 pmHow disturbing ; the students showed better sense in calling Turd Blossom out on his bullshit than the University did in actually paying this useless troll $40 grand to continue the never-ending lies of the Chimpy Cabal ...............
March 10th, 2008 at 12:40 pmComment by joe cantwell — March 10, 2008 @ 12:39 pm
I thought that was a duet by Jeff Gannon and Karl.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:44 pmDog shit filled water baloons is a good start. I would prefer to see him hammered with paint balls filled with skunk piss, black ink and pepper spray.
I was going to say sulfuric acid, but that is a little over the top.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:44 pmI'm thinking these speaking engagements aren't as much fun for Karl as he would have hoped. Obviously it is the fat cat at these universities that are booking this guy while the students pay for it. The same fat cats that buy up Mann Coulter's books to make her sales look better than they are. These kids are speaking up and nobody is getting tazered. Looks like the winds of change are blowing.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:44 pmI do believe his remorse at the end of his life was genuine, but if he had not had the cancer and was still alive today, I’m not so sure he would be anything but proud of the totalitarian state the neocons have built.
Even Rove could be contrite under the right circumstances. Getting broken does funny things to people.
Comment by missmolly — March 10, 2008 @ 12:33 pm
It's a good point. There do seem to be a number of "Confessions of a Republican hit man" books out right now, written by operatives who've been convicted of some type of fraud.
It'd be nice if the hatchet men and women of both would learn the error of their ways before the reaper or the long arm of justice starts knocking.
And preferably, before they start actually using these smear tactics in campaigns.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:47 pmGetting broken does funny things to people.
Comment by missmolly
So true. Borges supported Argentine dictatorship until he was blind near his death. After finding out what was the fate of 3,000 people tortured and killed, he said: Now that I'm blind, I'm able to see more...
March 10th, 2008 at 12:50 pmsniff, sniff. what do I smell? sniff, sniff WHAT DO I SMELL?
I do believe I smell a presidental pardon by the end of the year for turd blossom.
Justice thwarted by the smirking chimp....again.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:51 pmGetting broken does funny things to people.
Comment by missmolly
And, of course, there is Rush Limpballs who is now an admitted drug addict. Just look at how humble and reasonable he has become. [sarcasm intended]
March 10th, 2008 at 12:53 pmGetting broken does funny things to people.
Comment by missmolly
And GDumbya has been broken for his entire life. It sure hasn't slowed him down at all. The smirking, swaggering little tin cowboy is still sticking it to us daily.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:54 pmI will gladly contribute money to any college campus that wishes to invite Karl Rove to speak.
Here are my only conditions.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:55 pm1) There must be room for a very large audience.
2) The stage must be easily accessible to the audience.
3) There must be no physical security provided for Rove.
Like I've said over and over again, these Bushies will only be welcome in the puny minority of extreme right wing circles, a bed they made for themselves when they decided that dividing America for political gain was the way to win elections.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:55 pmThey will never be welcomed by the majority of mainstream America.
They chose to speak to and represent only right wing extremist groups.
Bush is only polling at 19%, which means Rove and the rest of the Bushies will be welcomed in even smaller circles.
Bush and Rove have effectively destroyed the right wing movement by exposing all the lies it was built upon.
Too bad they had to destroy much of America in the process.
Where on earth is KKKarls made in China American flag lapel pin?
March 10th, 2008 at 12:55 pmTo indict Rove before the end of the year would be asinine. Bush would set the turd free. Wait until the scum is out so we can put another scum in.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:57 pmComment by nofltwlt — March 10, 2008 @ 12:55 pm
And all you can carry rotten fruit at the door.........
March 10th, 2008 at 12:57 pmRove and his crew are RIGHT WING SUPREMACISTS.... its time to call those lying jackasses what they are..
March 10th, 2008 at 1:03 pmRove is "hoping" to be indicted by the end of the year so W can issue a blanket pardon. No KKKarl, we think that indictment can wait a little bit longer.
March 10th, 2008 at 1:04 pmKudos to the real Americans at U of I that stood up to a traitor.
March 10th, 2008 at 1:04 pmWhy are any Universities paying to hear this man speak ? I was appalled when he was paid to teach at a college down here a few years back. First of all , Rove has never graduated from a college so his skills are very suspect. Conservative issues can be heard from better conservatives than this corrupt bunch.
March 10th, 2008 at 1:06 pmThe University paid Rove $40,000 for the speech ............
Who knew bullshit would be this costly ?
March 10th, 2008 at 1:08 pmAnd GDumbya has been broken for his entire life. It sure hasn’t slowed him down at all. The smirking, swaggering little tin cowboy is still sticking it to us daily.
Comment by tom — March 10, 2008 @ 12:54 pm
I admit there are exceptions.
March 10th, 2008 at 1:08 pmHey y'all, go give David Goodner some love at Attaturk's link in #21. Some of his commenters seem to think civil discourse was in order. This is Karl Rove, what the hell is that about?
BTW, use nice language. I got dinged for the word "ass." Sheesh....
March 10th, 2008 at 1:10 pmLet's put a hold on the indictments until after Rove/Mehlman fail to get John Sidney McCain III elected president, and so Mr. Bush won't be in a position to pardon his criminal convictions. I look forward to the years when Karl Rove is serving time alongside Robert Hansen, John Walker and Aldrich Aimes. These are the men who share the same kind of "genius" that Karl Rove practiced in betraying our country.
March 10th, 2008 at 1:13 pmZooey, a nice girl like you should have said "donkey". LOL.
March 10th, 2008 at 1:14 pmIndict & Imprison this monster NOW! Kudos to the students at Un. of Iowa for speaking truth to corruption. This guy's sliding down the aybss before our very eyes.....going.....going......and soon to be in prison orange.
March 10th, 2008 at 1:16 pmWonder if the Young Republicans conference in Vegas is all booked up or just don't want to pay Rove's fee. Surely anyone can learn to lie, cheat, steal for free.
March 10th, 2008 at 1:17 pmZooey, a nice girl like you should have said “donkeyâ€. LOL.
Comment by PatrioticLiberalChristian — March 10, 2008 @ 1:14 pm
Heh. I changed it to "lily white hiney." :-D
March 10th, 2008 at 1:17 pmAgreed....Let this demented maniac hang out to dry until the new dem president takes office. No pardons for this "architect of Bush's fascism".
March 10th, 2008 at 1:17 pmzooey: the visual of Rovereich's white, pasty, cellulitous hiney is enough to make be barf. ewwwww.....
March 10th, 2008 at 1:18 pmIts time for the individual states to put out warrants for the arrest of all of these criminals & traitors to our constitution. The People will get justice when we see them all marched off to the hole.
March 10th, 2008 at 1:20 pm#70,
"Conservative issues can be heard from better conservatives than this corrupt bunch."
I gotta say that that is a confusing statement.
What are conservative issues any longer? Small government, fiscal responsibility, accountability, etc., etc. I dont think so.
I don't know of any "conservative" that exhibits what is typically thought of as conservative values. Conservatives in this day and age are about cashing out the American dream for themselves and to hell with everybody else. I think "this bunch" perfectly exhibit current conservative beliefs.
March 10th, 2008 at 1:26 pmI read this on CNN's Ticker, but they buried the best part. Two people attempted a citizen's arrest on Rove.
March 10th, 2008 at 1:28 pmSorry Uncle Ho, I still say he looks like an Polish or Italian sausage.
March 10th, 2008 at 1:29 pmtake care
tony and guidedog Lido
GO HAWKEYES!!!!
I knew my alma mater wouldn't give that p.o.s. a free pass. I can smell Rove's flop sweat all the way out here on the W. Coast.
March 10th, 2008 at 1:29 pm(oops)
- GO SNARKEYES!!
tom hussein baker
(that's better)
March 10th, 2008 at 1:31 pmRocks 911 1:26 - There are some conservatives that have good issues but they have all been shut out of the administration one way or another. Read the original conservative platform it has just been so twisted by the last few Presidents no one recognizes it.
March 10th, 2008 at 1:32 pmRight now there isn't much difference between the Dems or the Repubs sorry to say. Get rid of the lobbyists and perhaps both parties will remember who they work for.
Maybe he'll have a heart attack and die.
Hopefully, alone and in great pain.
And no, I'm NOT sorry for wishing the above.
~L. Hussein Annie
March 10th, 2008 at 1:35 pmHenry Waxman considers using Inherent Contempt
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2978286
** Will he be as spineless as John Conyers?
March 10th, 2008 at 1:38 pm#87,
Not much difference between Democrats and Republic666ans, what country do you live in?
Were you around in the 90's, remember the prosperity? Look at the mess we have now, three trillion in war costs thrust onto the shoulders of the American people who are at the same time struggling to pay for Exxon's gas, which in turn has meant an increase in the price of everything.
Stagflation while the Chimp dances a soft shoe. Republicans are criminal in their destruction of this once great country, conservative values my ass.
March 10th, 2008 at 1:57 pmHeh. I changed it to “lily white hiney.†:-D
Comment by Zooey — March 10, 2008 @ 1:17 pm
Much better. Of course, with commenting on Rove and his trouble handling criticism, you could use the term I use with my granddaughter: "whiney hiney".
March 10th, 2008 at 2:01 pmzooey: the visual of Rovereich’s white, pasty, cellulitous hiney is enough to make be barf. ewwwww…..
Comment by OsirisHusseinOsiris — March 10, 2008 @ 1:18 pm
I was referring to my own ass, not Rove's! :-D
Here's the original line: Civil discourse, my ass!
Then I had to change it. :)
March 10th, 2008 at 2:01 pmMy goodness... the **unintelligible** is STRONG this morning...
March 10th, 2008 at 2:05 pmRock911 - Try reading Free Lunch by David Cay Johnston - The present Dems in power now are just as bad as the Repubs. They all have personal interests such as next campaign funds that have to be amassed. And I lived the Texas recession from about 1986 - 1993 and it was not good. Remember different parts of the country get hit at different times when things go bad.
When you need campaign money the voters are not the ones giving it to you so just who is important ?
March 10th, 2008 at 2:07 pmGeez, fer once I hope Rove is right.
March 10th, 2008 at 2:09 pm94,
Clinton presidential term: January 20, 1993 – January 20, 2001
so your recession was during a Republic666an, and supposed conservative's presidential term. Supposedly from Texas by the way.
Clinton administration=longest period of economic growth in American history while paying down the debt.
Conserv666atives and Republic666and serve nothing but their own interests at the expense of working class Americans.
March 10th, 2008 at 2:16 pmRove is the scum of the erath! This War Criminal should be behind barrs! With a black hood covering his very ugly face!
March 10th, 2008 at 2:23 pmRocks911 - I am saying BOTH parties have gotten so greedy and corrupt there isn't any difference. Clinton did his tax cut for the ultra wealthy as did bush. Clinton cut from 30% to 22.% for the ultra 400 and bush cut it again to 17.2 %.
Name one thing the Dems have done that they promised to win the 2006 elections. Where is our military, Iraq. Cut the funding, but no, they are afraid. How about the SCHIP bill for kids ? What about FISA ? Even my hero Gary Webb finked out.
The Dems have 80% Americans on their side and they are too cowardly to use the power. I am so discouraged with the present situation.
And I will never forget the recession there were NO jobs or they paid $4.25 if you were lucky, with a college degree.
March 10th, 2008 at 2:30 pmRove was too scared to come out of the restaurant with protesters outside, so he went in & finished eating his Pig's Knuckles.
March 10th, 2008 at 2:33 pmIt's take more than 40 g's to find a lawyer good enough and dirty enough to fight for Rove. He's going to need to sell some image rights. A few suggests for his agent -
Punching bags?
Closets?
Washing Machines?
And of course, they could always put that Rove label directly on every coffin that leaves Iraq. Along the with the moniker of all those bastard Neocons who have contributed to the deaths of up to a million people in that country.
March 10th, 2008 at 2:43 pmPunching bags?
Closets?
Washing Machines?
Comment by robertoroberto — March 10, 2008 @ 2:43 pm
Paper shredders?
Colostomy bags?
Orange jumpsuits?
March 10th, 2008 at 2:50 pmGetting broken does funny things to people.
Comment by missmolly
Yeah, Like George Wallace.....I'm sorry but if they can admit to it when they are dying then that just tells me they knew all along......ok, you've changed your ways but how do we undo all the damage you have caused? kinda like the death penalty....you can't take it back.
It's easy to be benevolent when you are no longer the power driving the evil.
March 10th, 2008 at 2:51 pmRove, Cheney, the rest of bootlickers in bush's gang....will all land soft jobs with lobbyists. It would just be nice if one time, one of them would realize the wrong they did. From the energy crisis in California and Cheney standing up for Enron to outing a CIA agent, endangering other coverts for their own means. Or lying America into a never ending war. Just once a little justice, please.
March 10th, 2008 at 2:57 pm98,
Until the Democrats get an overwhelming majority in the house and senate to overcome the obstructionist conserv666atives certainly Democratic values will not be enacted.
But back to the point, the two parties are very different as has been my experience in 47 years. Just look at the trends.
March 10th, 2008 at 3:00 pmI think they should do a student vote on his appearance before wasting $40,000 on this scumbag.
March 10th, 2008 at 3:03 pmWhat I wouldn't give to see videos of this smack-down! C'mon, you youtubers.. there has to be ONE of you with some footage.
March 10th, 2008 at 3:19 pmSilly students paying this alleged criminal $40,000! The money would be better spent publishing their angst far and wide.
March 10th, 2008 at 4:15 pmRocks911 -We will have to agree to disagree. Have been a Dem since before Nixon...shunned by my own family for calling Nixon a liar spouting his secret for getting out of Veitnam. But, the political game has gotten so greedy and corrupt that the Dems have had to join just to play. Tell me you are not a little disappointed in their actions since 2006? Where is the impeachment that was talked about or even making some accountability ? I realize the bush machine is huge but come on try a little.
March 10th, 2008 at 4:27 pmHow does anyone want to fit Elliot Spitzer into this discussion?
March 10th, 2008 at 5:28 pmthe best part is he is going to help Johnny Mclame he must have a short memory but we don`t. Old man Mclame is doomed when Nov comes KKKarl will be indicted and will be useless to Mclame.
March 10th, 2008 at 5:43 pm"With all do respect"
What about incompetent writers?
God we're a stupid country.
March 10th, 2008 at 6:14 pmI read this on CNN’s Ticker, but they buried the best part. Two people attempted a citizen’s arrest on Rove.
Comment by writechic — March 10, 2008 @ 1:28 pm
Kudos to the real Americans at U of I that stood up to a traitor.
Comment by scytherius — March 10, 2008 @ 1:04 pm
Youth usually has a lower tolerance for hypocrisy than their elders.
March 10th, 2008 at 6:56 pmWater board this sissy and lets see what he is made of.
March 10th, 2008 at 9:26 pmYou liberal hacks are hysterical. I don't stand that Rove is a saint or that the Bush administration is flawless, but this holier than thou bullcrap you all peddle is disgusting. It's one thing to have an opinion but a whole other ballgame altogether the way that you all live in total la la land as to the reality of the world. The second you think the "Bush Machine" is even a little more corrupt than the "Clinton Machine" is the second that you have allowed sites like this one to delude your brain completely.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:38 amI think we could all learn alot by taking a deep breath of fresh air, and really feeling out our anger towards the US administration. On one hand I hear Americans talking about how bad the war is, and on the other how bad Iraq is. WTF? I just wonder why people can't resolve those conflicts in their mind. Isn't the law based on some rational concept? Don't we have a duty to protect as well as to serve?
It sounds to me like the students did not appreciate the school's choice to pay Karl Rove to speak. The man is obviously very smart. He didn't manufacture a degree or fake his way into the White House. He may not have all the answers, but that may be because the students failed to ask the right questions.
Why did Karl Rove do what he did? Moreover, what exactly did he do? Do any of the students know. I don't know what he did. I read this whole article and most of the comments and not even a mention of anything substantive. I appreciate a good political rant as much as the next guy, but I like to have alittle beef in my stew!
March 11th, 2008 at 6:50 amLiberals just hate all non-liberals. So what else is new?
March 11th, 2008 at 7:34 amJust drifting around in the wee hrs marking territory like a dog, "Dr"?
March 11th, 2008 at 8:20 amI agree, the money could have been better spent having a TRUE man of peace speak like maybe Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Then the students could have sat there rapt and in awe of such a great man who only wants the best for the world.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:59 pmI also like the loving tolerant nature of your righteous indignation.
March 11th, 2008 at 6:00 pmI am the person ridiculed as being "stupid and simple minded because while he was going on about Saddam having killed 500,000 the US has only killed 150,000 so I quipped "So you are better because you have killed less people than Saddam?" to which the quick wit of Rove became that of a five year old.
March 11th, 2008 at 6:14 pmHe did a lot of egging people on. It was almost as if he was trying to incite a riot. It was close when it the very being he said "You'll have time for your stupid questions and comments." while some were yelling at him.
Plus I got to came him a draft dodger which he tried to deny by saying "You don't know why draft status" to which I responded "Sure do. It is on the web. You had a student deferment when you weren't a student. Federal crime buddy!"
The only awe I felt was that of his arrogance and the ease with which he lied and made things up. Hard to hold a conversation when one side does nothing that is remotely related to this reality.
I take it you're not majoring in english?
March 11th, 2008 at 6:22 pmDon't indict him yet. Indict him January 21, 2009.
March 11th, 2008 at 6:30 pmNot an English major or an english major either but thanks for proofing.
March 11th, 2008 at 6:47 pmto panahi -
March 11th, 2008 at 11:01 pmRove did not finish college, he is draft dodger and he is not particularly smart.
He is a mean, mean spirited person and no compulsion about lying and if can not get his way by lying he turns to belittling people, insulting them, and just dismissing them. ARROGANCE! Is all that he has going for him, just like Bush. Rove thought he was building a 1,000 year reign of Republican power and has, instead, destroyed the Republican party since there is no room for moderate conservatives anymore.
I used to be a Republican and the party has left me. I have not moved much, politically speaking, since Goldwater but the current Republicans show no fiscal conservatism and no social conservatism. Bush and his group of thieves are simply converting public money to private money as fast as the can while pretending to protect us from global terrorism-whatever that is.
Rove was confrontational right from the start and grinned and smirked with every little cut he made at people in the audience. He gave no straight answers and simply went through the Bush speaking points.
He even claimed that the Federal gov't was ready to go to New Orleans hours after the eye passed NO and it was the local government that screwed up.
Blaming the victim.
People tried to asking questions but Rove did not engage into a discussion, rather he preached from his chair.
I was hoping to hear so insights into what and why the Bush administration did what they did but all anyone got was insults and the "bring it on" attitude. Like I said earlier, Rove seemed to be getting some perverse pleasure from working the crowd into a frenzy. The louder the boos the bigger the smile and he is suppose to be a public servant?
I was disappointed that he was paid 40K to simply reread his manifesto.
Of course he expect to be indictied by the end of the year, then Bush can pardon him and it's all good.
March 12th, 2008 at 2:27 amRove is a TRAITOR.
Bush is a TRAITOR, MURDERER and a silver-spoon COXUCKER punk.
God SEES the EVIL that they have done, and will "reward" them like TRAITOR Ronnie Reagan.
BURNING FOR McETERNITY!!
March 12th, 2008 at 10:50 amFor those who are lucky enough to ask Mr. Rove a question, please keep it factual and corner this snake. To show your anger to this man when you only have one question to ask isn’t going to dent this neocon.
Ask about the emails, ask about Plame and Wilson at every opportunity and keep it compaq armada m300 battery,compaq presario 300 battery factual. He’ll use every inflammed and emmotional question as proof of the looney left. Don’t give him the ammo.
October 15th, 2008 at 4:33 amIf Karl will let me schedule his agenda, I can send him to speak at a few hundred universities which will not treat him so kindly. I hope he does not go the way of Ken Lay. It is important that each of us continue in our soul development as much as possible. The only way for that to happen is if each of us faces our transgressions against humanity as soon as possible to avoid replication. For some reason, I seem to be more involved with Rove's transgressions than my own. I wonder why that is?
December 26th, 2008 at 7:35 pm