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		<title>By: bitblt</title>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;
It warms my heart (no double meaning intended) that the Baptists have decided to step up to their role as God-appointed stewards of the earth and concern themselves with climate change.

Now, about other Christians who arenâ€™t worried about it because of the coming Rapture â€” perhaps itâ€™s not too much to hope that they will get with the program as well.

Comment by missmolly â€” March 10, 2008 @ 9:08 am
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Well, theyâ€™re still Baptist. It appears below that this announcement was made out to be some ground shaking event for the SBC, but in the end it was really just one of those little â€œtempest in a teapot.â€


The below news release contains this statement:

&lt;strong&gt;
The statement included the disclaimer that advocacy of environmental stewardship will not reduce the signers&#039; commitment to protecting unborn and other human life or to the biblical view of marriage.
&lt;/strong&gt;

http://www.bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=27582

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&lt;strong&gt;
Climate change project is not SBC&#039;s
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Posted on Mar 12, 2008 &#124; by Staff

ORIGINALLY POSTED Monday, March 10, 2008.

WASHINGTON (BP)--Jonathan Merritt, a 25-year-old student at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary in Wake Forest, N.C., captured widespread media attention March 10 in releasing a statement titled &quot;A Southern Baptist Declaration on the Environment and Climate Change.&quot;

The so-called &quot;Southern Baptist&quot; statement is not an initiative of the Southern Baptist Convention which voiced its views on global warming last summer in a resolution, &quot;On Global Warming&quot;.

However, the student&#039;s project carries the names of a number of high-profile Southern Baptist leaders including his father, James Merritt, pastor of Cross Pointe, the Church at Gwinnett Center in Duluth, Ga., and a former president of the Southern Baptist Convention. Frank Page, pastor of First Baptist Church in Taylors, S.C., and the current SBC president, and Jack Graham, pastor of Prestonwood Baptist Church in Plano, Texas, and a past president of the SBC, also signed the document.

Although he signed Merritt&#039;s declaration, Page, in a statement to Baptist Press, voiced support for the 2007 SBC resolution and earlier SBC resolutions on the topic.

&quot;Southern Baptists have long stood for a clear environmental message which takes seriously God&#039;s call to guard and keep the earth,&quot; Page said. &quot;We have been balanced and responsive in our calls for care....

&quot;However, in a broader sense, many of God&#039;s people have been timid about speaking out regarding issues which relate to environmentalism. Perhaps this timidity has been a fear that speaking out would tie us to the very extreme left wing liberal environmental lobby. Some in this group are known for harsh political tirades. Others have issued irresponsible calls for economic change which would devastate the economies of some of the poorest nations in the world.&quot;

In a teleconference with media March 10, Merritt said the idea for the initiative came to him during a theology class.

&quot;In the lecture,&quot; he said, &quot;my professor made the statement that when we destroy creation, which is God&#039;s revelation, it is no different than tearing a page out of the Bible. At that moment, God began to work in my heart and call me to do something. [This document] is the product of that nudge from God that day.&quot; Merritt has been identified as the project director of the Southern Baptist Environment and Climate Initiative, which is behind the document.

The declaration, which carries 46 signatures, says Southern Baptists&#039; &quot;current denominational engagement with these issues [has] often been too timid, failing to produce a unified moral voice. Our cautious response to these issues in the face of mounting evidence may be seen by the world as uncaring, reckless and ill-informed. We can do better.&quot;

The declaration released March 10 offers four main points:

-- Human beings have a responsibility to care for creation and acknowledge their participation in environmental decline.

-- Addressing climate change is prudent.

-- Stewardship of the earth is required by Christian and Southern Baptist beliefs.

-- Individuals, churches, communities and governments should act now.
&lt;strong&gt;

The statement included the disclaimer that advocacy of environmental stewardship will not reduce the signers&#039; commitment to protecting unborn and other human life or to the biblical view of marriage.

&quot;We will never compromise our convictions nor attenuate our advocacy on these matters, which constitute the most pressing moral issues of our day,&quot; the statement says. &quot;However, we are not a single-issue body.&quot;

One of the most glaring missing endorsements was that of the SBC&#039;s Ethics &amp; Religious Liberty Commission.

During the teleconference, Merritt mentioned that the ERLC had provided helpful inputs to reshape the statement but in the end did not endorse the final draft.

In a statement to Baptist Press, ERLC President Richard Land said he declined to endorse Merritt&#039;s declaration out of respect for Southern Baptists&#039; autonomy.
&lt;/strong&gt;

&quot;They reserve to themselves the right to decide through Convention action what the Southern Baptist Convention&#039;s public policy positions are to be,&quot; Land said. &quot;The ERLC will continue to share the officially adopted positions of the Convention with public policy makers and the media.&quot;

Land also took issue with the signers&#039; statement that Southern Baptists have been &quot;too timid&quot; in addressing these issues.

&quot;[T]he Convention has officially addressed the issues of creation care and environmental stewardship in its 2006 and 2007 Conventions through resolutions adopted by the Convention&#039;s duly elected messengers,&quot; Land said. Referring to the 2007 action, he added that the approved action &quot;is as close to an &#039;official&#039; position as the SBC is capable of making, apart from its formal confession of faith, the Baptist Faith and Message.&quot;

&quot;Consequently, in our convention-assigned role to share faithfully with Washington and other public policy venues where the convention is on an issue, it would be misleading and unethical of the ERLC to promote a position at variance with the convention&#039;s expressly stated positions.&quot;

While some media reports interpreted the declaration as a major shift of position in Southern Baptist circles, the document actually builds on statements adopted in the past, Daniel Akin, president of Southeastern Seminary, said during the teleconference.


&quot;What the statement does is in concert with what Southern Baptists have said,&quot; Akin said. &quot;The difference is that this comes as a grass-roots movement, not through the mechanism of a resolution that comes when the convention is in session.

&quot;It does challenge Southern Baptists to be more proactive,&quot; he added. &quot;I see it as building on what Southern Baptists have said in previous statements and position papers.&quot;

Southern Baptist messengers, in speaking to the issue of global warming during the 2007 annual meeting in San Antonio, encouraged their fellow Southern Baptists &quot;to proceed cautiously in the human-induced global warming debate in light of conflicting scientific research.&quot; It also called for public policies that guarantee &quot;an appropriate balance between care for the environment, effects on economics, and impacts on the poor when considering programs to reduce&quot; carbon and other emissions.

The resolution affirmed Southern Baptists&#039; responsibility to protect the environment while urging caution in the debate over humanity&#039;s role in global warming.

Messengers to the 2007 convention voted to delete two paragraphs of recommendations that were in the global warming measure when it came from the Resolutions Committee. They approved an amendment from the floor that removed proposals for government funding to do research on the human impact on global warming and to find energy alternatives to oil and other carbon-producing resources. Messengers passed the amendment with about 60 percent in the majority before approving the resolution overwhelmingly.

Last year&#039;s SBC resolution, which cited the Bible and offered a scientific and historical summary of climate change, is the seventh since 1970 to affirm that Christians have a responsibility to be stewards of creation.

Evangelical Christians have expressed differences of opinion on how to address global warming.

The Evangelical Climate Initiative (ECI), a coalition of more than 100 evangelical leaders, contends human beings are the main cause of global warming, which it says will negatively impact poor people the most. The ECI, which issued a statement in February 2006, has endorsed legislation to decrease carbon dioxide emissions in an effort to combat climate change.

The Cornwall Alliance for the Stewardship of Creation says the cause of global warming is uncertain. It has expressed concern about the effects that policies proposed by those who believe in human-induced climate change would have on the poor. Some proposals might make little difference in the environment while harming economic progress, especially for the needy, it fears. The Cornwall Alliance released a document in July 2006 that was partly a response to ECI&#039;s statement and was signed by more than 110 evangelicals. Barrett Duke, the ERLC&#039;s vice president of public policy and research, has endorsed the Cornwall statement.
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Compiled by Baptist Press staff, with reporting by Washington bureau chief Tom Strode and BP assistant editor Mark Kelly.
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It warms my heart (no double meaning intended) that the Baptists have decided to step up to their role as God-appointed stewards of the earth and concern themselves with climate change.</p>
<p>Now, about other Christians who arenâ€™t worried about it because of the coming Rapture â€” perhaps itâ€™s not too much to hope that they will get with the program as well.</p>
<p>Comment by missmolly â€” March 10, 2008 @ 9:08 am<br />
</em></p>
<p>Well, theyâ€™re still Baptist. It appears below that this announcement was made out to be some ground shaking event for the SBC, but in the end it was really just one of those little â€œtempest in a teapot.â€</p>
<p>The below news release contains this statement:</p>
<p><strong><br />
The statement included the disclaimer that advocacy of environmental stewardship will not reduce the signers&#8217; commitment to protecting unborn and other human life or to the biblical view of marriage.<br />
</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=27582" rel="nofollow">http://www.bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=27582</a></p>
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<strong><br />
Climate change project is not SBC&#8217;s<br />
</strong></p>
<p>Posted on Mar 12, 2008 | by Staff</p>
<p>ORIGINALLY POSTED Monday, March 10, 2008.</p>
<p>WASHINGTON (BP)&#8211;Jonathan Merritt, a 25-year-old student at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary in Wake Forest, N.C., captured widespread media attention March 10 in releasing a statement titled &#8220;A Southern Baptist Declaration on the Environment and Climate Change.&#8221;</p>
<p>The so-called &#8220;Southern Baptist&#8221; statement is not an initiative of the Southern Baptist Convention which voiced its views on global warming last summer in a resolution, &#8220;On Global Warming&#8221;.</p>
<p>However, the student&#8217;s project carries the names of a number of high-profile Southern Baptist leaders including his father, James Merritt, pastor of Cross Pointe, the Church at Gwinnett Center in Duluth, Ga., and a former president of the Southern Baptist Convention. Frank Page, pastor of First Baptist Church in Taylors, S.C., and the current SBC president, and Jack Graham, pastor of Prestonwood Baptist Church in Plano, Texas, and a past president of the SBC, also signed the document.</p>
<p>Although he signed Merritt&#8217;s declaration, Page, in a statement to Baptist Press, voiced support for the 2007 SBC resolution and earlier SBC resolutions on the topic.</p>
<p>&#8220;Southern Baptists have long stood for a clear environmental message which takes seriously God&#8217;s call to guard and keep the earth,&#8221; Page said. &#8220;We have been balanced and responsive in our calls for care&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;However, in a broader sense, many of God&#8217;s people have been timid about speaking out regarding issues which relate to environmentalism. Perhaps this timidity has been a fear that speaking out would tie us to the very extreme left wing liberal environmental lobby. Some in this group are known for harsh political tirades. Others have issued irresponsible calls for economic change which would devastate the economies of some of the poorest nations in the world.&#8221;</p>
<p>In a teleconference with media March 10, Merritt said the idea for the initiative came to him during a theology class.</p>
<p>&#8220;In the lecture,&#8221; he said, &#8220;my professor made the statement that when we destroy creation, which is God&#8217;s revelation, it is no different than tearing a page out of the Bible. At that moment, God began to work in my heart and call me to do something. [This document] is the product of that nudge from God that day.&#8221; Merritt has been identified as the project director of the Southern Baptist Environment and Climate Initiative, which is behind the document.</p>
<p>The declaration, which carries 46 signatures, says Southern Baptists&#8217; &#8220;current denominational engagement with these issues [has] often been too timid, failing to produce a unified moral voice. Our cautious response to these issues in the face of mounting evidence may be seen by the world as uncaring, reckless and ill-informed. We can do better.&#8221;</p>
<p>The declaration released March 10 offers four main points:</p>
<p>&#8211; Human beings have a responsibility to care for creation and acknowledge their participation in environmental decline.</p>
<p>&#8211; Addressing climate change is prudent.</p>
<p>&#8211; Stewardship of the earth is required by Christian and Southern Baptist beliefs.</p>
<p>&#8211; Individuals, churches, communities and governments should act now.<br />
<strong></p>
<p>The statement included the disclaimer that advocacy of environmental stewardship will not reduce the signers&#8217; commitment to protecting unborn and other human life or to the biblical view of marriage.</p>
<p>&#8220;We will never compromise our convictions nor attenuate our advocacy on these matters, which constitute the most pressing moral issues of our day,&#8221; the statement says. &#8220;However, we are not a single-issue body.&#8221;</p>
<p>One of the most glaring missing endorsements was that of the SBC&#8217;s Ethics &amp; Religious Liberty Commission.</p>
<p>During the teleconference, Merritt mentioned that the ERLC had provided helpful inputs to reshape the statement but in the end did not endorse the final draft.</p>
<p>In a statement to Baptist Press, ERLC President Richard Land said he declined to endorse Merritt&#8217;s declaration out of respect for Southern Baptists&#8217; autonomy.<br />
</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;They reserve to themselves the right to decide through Convention action what the Southern Baptist Convention&#8217;s public policy positions are to be,&#8221; Land said. &#8220;The ERLC will continue to share the officially adopted positions of the Convention with public policy makers and the media.&#8221;</p>
<p>Land also took issue with the signers&#8217; statement that Southern Baptists have been &#8220;too timid&#8221; in addressing these issues.</p>
<p>&#8220;[T]he Convention has officially addressed the issues of creation care and environmental stewardship in its 2006 and 2007 Conventions through resolutions adopted by the Convention&#8217;s duly elected messengers,&#8221; Land said. Referring to the 2007 action, he added that the approved action &#8220;is as close to an &#8216;official&#8217; position as the SBC is capable of making, apart from its formal confession of faith, the Baptist Faith and Message.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Consequently, in our convention-assigned role to share faithfully with Washington and other public policy venues where the convention is on an issue, it would be misleading and unethical of the ERLC to promote a position at variance with the convention&#8217;s expressly stated positions.&#8221;</p>
<p>While some media reports interpreted the declaration as a major shift of position in Southern Baptist circles, the document actually builds on statements adopted in the past, Daniel Akin, president of Southeastern Seminary, said during the teleconference.</p>
<p>&#8220;What the statement does is in concert with what Southern Baptists have said,&#8221; Akin said. &#8220;The difference is that this comes as a grass-roots movement, not through the mechanism of a resolution that comes when the convention is in session.</p>
<p>&#8220;It does challenge Southern Baptists to be more proactive,&#8221; he added. &#8220;I see it as building on what Southern Baptists have said in previous statements and position papers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Southern Baptist messengers, in speaking to the issue of global warming during the 2007 annual meeting in San Antonio, encouraged their fellow Southern Baptists &#8220;to proceed cautiously in the human-induced global warming debate in light of conflicting scientific research.&#8221; It also called for public policies that guarantee &#8220;an appropriate balance between care for the environment, effects on economics, and impacts on the poor when considering programs to reduce&#8221; carbon and other emissions.</p>
<p>The resolution affirmed Southern Baptists&#8217; responsibility to protect the environment while urging caution in the debate over humanity&#8217;s role in global warming.</p>
<p>Messengers to the 2007 convention voted to delete two paragraphs of recommendations that were in the global warming measure when it came from the Resolutions Committee. They approved an amendment from the floor that removed proposals for government funding to do research on the human impact on global warming and to find energy alternatives to oil and other carbon-producing resources. Messengers passed the amendment with about 60 percent in the majority before approving the resolution overwhelmingly.</p>
<p>Last year&#8217;s SBC resolution, which cited the Bible and offered a scientific and historical summary of climate change, is the seventh since 1970 to affirm that Christians have a responsibility to be stewards of creation.</p>
<p>Evangelical Christians have expressed differences of opinion on how to address global warming.</p>
<p>The Evangelical Climate Initiative (ECI), a coalition of more than 100 evangelical leaders, contends human beings are the main cause of global warming, which it says will negatively impact poor people the most. The ECI, which issued a statement in February 2006, has endorsed legislation to decrease carbon dioxide emissions in an effort to combat climate change.</p>
<p>The Cornwall Alliance for the Stewardship of Creation says the cause of global warming is uncertain. It has expressed concern about the effects that policies proposed by those who believe in human-induced climate change would have on the poor. Some proposals might make little difference in the environment while harming economic progress, especially for the needy, it fears. The Cornwall Alliance released a document in July 2006 that was partly a response to ECI&#8217;s statement and was signed by more than 110 evangelicals. Barrett Duke, the ERLC&#8217;s vice president of public policy and research, has endorsed the Cornwall statement.<br />
&#8211;30&#8211;<br />
Compiled by Baptist Press staff, with reporting by Washington bureau chief Tom Strode and BP assistant editor Mark Kelly.
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		<description>&gt;Can you read?

Can you? I corected myself on the next post.</description>
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<p>Can you? I corected myself on the next post.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4296383', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jeeez...did good golly really try and claim she has a six figure income? hahahahahah. dude....i think the number of people i know or have heard of who have a six figure income who see fit to spend their time arguing on the internet is exactly... zero.... people who make that much money have better, or at least more important, things to do... people that rich could just pay thier servants argue, if they even give enough of a flying fu3k to care..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jeeez&#8230;did good golly really try and claim she has a six figure income? hahahahahah. dude&#8230;.i think the number of people i know or have heard of who have a six figure income who see fit to spend their time arguing on the internet is exactly&#8230; zero&#8230;. people who make that much money have better, or at least more important, things to do&#8230; people that rich could just pay thier servants argue, if they even give enough of a flying fu3k to care..<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4296334', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chocolate Jesus</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Heartland Institute (the organization Butler works for) has accepted more than US$500,000.00 in funds from Exxon and more than US$200,000.00 from Philip Morris.[5] (sourcewatch.com )

wow, and this is the women we&#039;re supposed to listen to just because she blew some chess geeks to get into thier journal? looks like Exxon mobil DID buy her off, after all...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Heartland Institute (the organization Butler works for) has accepted more than US$500,000.00 in funds from Exxon and more than US$200,000.00 from Philip Morris.[5] (sourcewatch.com )</p>
<p>wow, and this is the women we&#8217;re supposed to listen to just because she blew some chess geeks to get into thier journal? looks like Exxon mobil DID buy her off, after all&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4296333', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Butler is a member of this organization.. as you can see, typical rightwing wingnuttery...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartland_Institute

her email address is think@heartland.org 

their in bed with right wing nutballs like the Heritage Foundation and the Cato institute
...&quot; Heartland has prompted criticism by employing executives from such corporations as ExxonMobil, General Motors, and Philip Morris on its board of directors and in its public relations department.&quot;

the jist of what Butler is trying to tell you is this.. Al Gore is just trying to make a cheap buck off your fear, but Exxonmobil is giving you the truth out of the goodness of their heart. the fact that thier profit margins would be damaged  by attempts to combat global warming have nothing to do with their attempts to deny it..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Butler is a member of this organization.. as you can see, typical rightwing wingnuttery&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartland_Institute" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartland_Institute</a></p>
<p>her email address is <a href="mailto:think@heartland.org">think@heartland.org</a> </p>
<p>their in bed with right wing nutballs like the Heritage Foundation and the Cato institute<br />
&#8230;&#8221; Heartland has prompted criticism by employing executives from such corporations as ExxonMobil, General Motors, and Philip Morris on its board of directors and in its public relations department.&#8221;</p>
<p>the jist of what Butler is trying to tell you is this.. Al Gore is just trying to make a cheap buck off your fear, but Exxonmobil is giving you the truth out of the goodness of their heart. the fact that thier profit margins would be damaged  by attempts to combat global warming have nothing to do with their attempts to deny it..<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4296332', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chocolate Jesus</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whoops, my bad.. Butler didnt write this book, she just thinks its keen and neat...showing shes probably some kind of religious nutjob,,,\
birds of a feather...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whoops, my bad.. Butler didnt write this book, she just thinks its keen and neat&#8230;showing shes probably some kind of religious nutjob,,,\<br />
birds of a feather&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4296328', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just so you know who this &quot;Louise Butler&quot; from Mensa person Goon Gawdy the scab is crowing about is... a quote from her right wing &quot;things are going peachy in Iraq&quot; book.. &quot;Baghdad Believer&quot;

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0979235200/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

&quot;Having been to the Middle East many times, I have a deep love for these people who are so in need of Jesus. Baghdad Believer provides an incredible opportunity for the reader to go inside the heart and mind of a Muslim seeker who becomes a follower of Christ..This book will not only help you to understand these issues but also will give you a love for Muslims for whom Jesus died.. &quot;

oh wait, my bad, thats not a quote from the book, its a review from an evangelist, who apparent is the only person they coudl get to waste their time reading it...


Why Mensa lets insipid Mann Coutler Wanna Bees like this write articles in thier little geeky journal, i do not know.. maybe she sucks a good d1ck...im sure most mensa men dont have much contact with women of the non-inflatable variety, and im sure it wouldnt be too hard for a women with low enough moral standars to whore for war to manipulate her way into getting them to publish one of her inane diatribes. And, by the way, she doesnt seem to be any sort of scientist, so her critique of the global warming issue is essentially that of a lay-person</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just so you know who this &#8220;Louise Butler&#8221; from Mensa person Goon Gawdy the scab is crowing about is&#8230; a quote from her right wing &#8220;things are going peachy in Iraq&#8221; book.. &#8220;Baghdad Believer&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0979235200/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0979235200/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Having been to the Middle East many times, I have a deep love for these people who are so in need of Jesus. Baghdad Believer provides an incredible opportunity for the reader to go inside the heart and mind of a Muslim seeker who becomes a follower of Christ..This book will not only help you to understand these issues but also will give you a love for Muslims for whom Jesus died.. &#8221;</p>
<p>oh wait, my bad, thats not a quote from the book, its a review from an evangelist, who apparent is the only person they coudl get to waste their time reading it&#8230;</p>
<p>Why Mensa lets insipid Mann Coutler Wanna Bees like this write articles in thier little geeky journal, i do not know.. maybe she sucks a good d1ck&#8230;im sure most mensa men dont have much contact with women of the non-inflatable variety, and im sure it wouldnt be too hard for a women with low enough moral standars to whore for war to manipulate her way into getting them to publish one of her inane diatribes. And, by the way, she doesnt seem to be any sort of scientist, so her critique of the global warming issue is essentially that of a lay-person<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4296327', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Alejandro</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/10/thinkfast-march-10-2008/comment-page-4/#comment-4295953</link>
		<dc:creator>Alejandro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Thinkprogress. If you read your posts you&#039;d think you were against global warming, but then you complain about high gas prices. You should be calling for gas prices to go through the roof. After they hit above $6/gallon you&#039;d think things might start to change and start to look the way you want them to. Less gasoline usage. Less CO2 emissions. You can&#039;t have low gas prices AND low CO2 emissions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Thinkprogress. If you read your posts you&#8217;d think you were against global warming, but then you complain about high gas prices. You should be calling for gas prices to go through the roof. After they hit above $6/gallon you&#8217;d think things might start to change and start to look the way you want them to. Less gasoline usage. Less CO2 emissions. You can&#8217;t have low gas prices AND low CO2 emissions.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4295953', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/10/thinkfast-march-10-2008/comment-page-4/#comment-4294983</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GG&#039;s memory is faulty (among other things):

The previous congress was in session from Tuesdays thru Thursdays.
Pelosi started her tenure with Mondays thru Fridays, but the repugs in particular were having vertical hisseys, so they are now in session from Monday thru Thursday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GG&#8217;s memory is faulty (among other things):</p>
<p>The previous congress was in session from Tuesdays thru Thursdays.<br />
Pelosi started her tenure with Mondays thru Fridays, but the repugs in particular were having vertical hisseys, so they are now in session from Monday thru Thursday.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4294983', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/10/thinkfast-march-10-2008/comment-page-4/#comment-4294972</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Washington, DC - Today, former service secretaries for each of the Armed Forces - Clifford Alexander, Jr. (US Army), Richard Danzig (US Navy), and F. Whitten Peters (US Air Force) - will host a press conference in Washington, DC to discuss why 
Obama has demonstrated the judgment and has the experience to be Commander In Chief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Washington, DC &#8211; Today, former service secretaries for each of the Armed Forces &#8211; Clifford Alexander, Jr. (US Army), Richard Danzig (US Navy), and F. Whitten Peters (US Air Force) &#8211; will host a press conference in Washington, DC to discuss why<br />
Obama has demonstrated the judgment and has the experience to be Commander In Chief.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4294972', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: joe cantwell</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/10/thinkfast-march-10-2008/comment-page-4/#comment-4294929</link>
		<dc:creator>joe cantwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She promised to work harder.

Comment by good_golly â€” March 10, 2008 @ 12:22 pm

please speak to the issues gg.

#</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She promised to work harder.</p>
<p>Comment by good_golly â€” March 10, 2008 @ 12:22 pm</p>
<p>please speak to the issues gg.</p>
<p>#<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4294929', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tsisageya</title>
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		<dc:creator>tsisageya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;In a new report, the Southern Poverty Law Center says â€œanti-immigrant sentiment is fueling nationwide increases in the number of hate groups and the number of hate crimes targeting Latinos.â€ The organization â€œcounted 888 hate groups in its latest tally, up from 844 in 2006 and 602 in 2000.â€ &lt;/em&gt;

I worked at this place not long ago.  Their bread-and-butter depends upon fomenting this kind of crap.  Morris Dees has built his fortune on the corpses of the Civil Rights movement.  He and his partner, Richard Cohen, behave more like plantation-owning frat-boys.  

Don&#039;t get me started.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>In a new report, the Southern Poverty Law Center says â€œanti-immigrant sentiment is fueling nationwide increases in the number of hate groups and the number of hate crimes targeting Latinos.â€ The organization â€œcounted 888 hate groups in its latest tally, up from 844 in 2006 and 602 in 2000.â€ </em></p>
<p>I worked at this place not long ago.  Their bread-and-butter depends upon fomenting this kind of crap.  Morris Dees has built his fortune on the corpses of the Civil Rights movement.  He and his partner, Richard Cohen, behave more like plantation-owning frat-boys.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me started.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4294886', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>150. She promised to work harder.

Comment by good_golly


bush promised to be a uniter not a dividerer.....got point?</description>
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<p>bush promised to be a uniter not a dividerer&#8230;..got point?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4294835', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: katy HUSSEIN katy</title>
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		<dc:creator>katy HUSSEIN katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Bush, Colombia &amp; Narco-Politics&lt;/strong&gt;
By Andres Calas
March 9, 2008 (Originally published Aug. 8, 2007)

George W. Bushâ€™s strategy of countering Venezuelaâ€™s leftist president Hugo ChÃ¡vez by strengthening ties to Colombiaâ€™s rightist government has been undercut by fresh evidence of high-level drug corruption and human rights violations implicating President Alvaro Uribeâ€™s inner circle.

These new allegations about Colombiaâ€™s narco-politics have tarnished Uribeâ€™s reputation just as Bush has been showcasing the Harvard- and Oxford-educated politician as a paragon of democratic values and an alternative to the firebrand ChÃ¡vez, who has used Venezuelaâ€™s oil wealth to finance social programs for the poor across the region.

Read on.
http://consortiumblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/bush-colombia-narco-politics.html&lt;/em&gt;
via C&amp;L blog roundup</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><strong>Bush, Colombia &amp; Narco-Politics</strong><br />
By Andres Calas<br />
March 9, 2008 (Originally published Aug. 8, 2007)</p>
<p>George W. Bushâ€™s strategy of countering Venezuelaâ€™s leftist president Hugo ChÃ¡vez by strengthening ties to Colombiaâ€™s rightist government has been undercut by fresh evidence of high-level drug corruption and human rights violations implicating President Alvaro Uribeâ€™s inner circle.</p>
<p>These new allegations about Colombiaâ€™s narco-politics have tarnished Uribeâ€™s reputation just as Bush has been showcasing the Harvard- and Oxford-educated politician as a paragon of democratic values and an alternative to the firebrand ChÃ¡vez, who has used Venezuelaâ€™s oil wealth to finance social programs for the poor across the region.</p>
<p>Read on.<br />
<a href="http://consortiumblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/bush-colombia-narco-politics.html" rel="nofollow">http://consortiumblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/bush-colombia-narco-politics.html</a></em><br />
via C&amp;L blog roundup<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4294826', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: toasterhead</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/10/thinkfast-march-10-2008/comment-page-4/#comment-4294788</link>
		<dc:creator>toasterhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Please donâ€™t forget to read Armed Madhouse by Greg Palast.

Comment by 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda â€” March 10, 2008 @ 11:52 am&lt;/i&gt;

Oh yes - thank you, I forgot about that one.  Fantastic book.  I recommend reading it with boxing gloves on.  It hurts less when you start punching the walls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Please donâ€™t forget to read Armed Madhouse by Greg Palast.</p>
<p>Comment by 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda â€” March 10, 2008 @ 11:52 am</i></p>
<p>Oh yes &#8211; thank you, I forgot about that one.  Fantastic book.  I recommend reading it with boxing gloves on.  It hurts less when you start punching the walls.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4294788', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pelosiâ€™s House adjourned on Thursday, March 6, 2008, and will not meet again until today, March 10, 2008 at 12:30 p.m. Nice long weekend. Canâ€™t they work a little harder?

Comment by good_golly 


you act like we don&#039;t know the difference......are you just a fool or what........no congress in history has been gone from work more than the republican lead congresses preceding this one......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pelosiâ€™s House adjourned on Thursday, March 6, 2008, and will not meet again until today, March 10, 2008 at 12:30 p.m. Nice long weekend. Canâ€™t they work a little harder?</p>
<p>Comment by good_golly </p>
<p>you act like we don&#8217;t know the difference&#8230;&#8230;are you just a fool or what&#8230;&#8230;..no congress in history has been gone from work more than the republican lead congresses preceding this one&#8230;&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4294783', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: joe cantwell</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/10/thinkfast-march-10-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-4294766</link>
		<dc:creator>joe cantwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by good_golly â€” March 10, 2008 @ 11:57 am

gg, why don&#039;t you take it up with this guy?

http://homepage.mac.com/simx/links/C306271790/E20061212024638/index.html

eh?

(&lt;em&gt;sorry about illinois, keep trying&lt;/em&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by good_golly â€” March 10, 2008 @ 11:57 am</p>
<p>gg, why don&#8217;t you take it up with this guy?</p>
<p><a href="http://homepage.mac.com/simx/links/C306271790/E20061212024638/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://homepage.mac.com/simx/links/C306271790/E20061212024638/index.html</a></p>
<p>eh?</p>
<p>(<em>sorry about illinois, keep trying</em>)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4294766', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Leftside Annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leftside Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G&#039;morning, everyone (well -- except you, goony. You can drop dead for all I care.)! 

Check out this chart - it&#039;s the PERFECT visualization of Bush Economics in action. It&#039;ll clue you as to why the 19%&#039;ers still LOVE them some Chimpy:

http://crookedtimber.org/2008/03/10/interocular-transmission-test/ 

It shows the growth in income of the top 1% of the population vs. the middle 60%/lower 20%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G&#8217;morning, everyone (well &#8212; except you, goony. You can drop dead for all I care.)! </p>
<p>Check out this chart &#8211; it&#8217;s the PERFECT visualization of Bush Economics in action. It&#8217;ll clue you as to why the 19%&#8217;ers still LOVE them some Chimpy:</p>
<p><a href="http://crookedtimber.org/2008/03/10/interocular-transmission-test/" rel="nofollow">http://crookedtimber.org/2008/03/10/interocular-transmission-test/</a> </p>
<p>It shows the growth in income of the top 1% of the population vs. the middle 60%/lower 20%.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4294751', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/10/thinkfast-march-10-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-4294739</link>
		<dc:creator>2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also recommended for people who want to become fully enraged about whatâ€™s really happening in the world and the politico-corporate-religious alliance thatâ€™s controlling it:

Fall of the House of Bush - Craig Unger
A Game As Old As Empire - Steven Hiatt and John Perkins
Confessions of an Economic Hit Man and The Secret History of the American Empire - John Perkins

- Hussein Toasterhead

Comment by toasterhead â€” March 10, 2008 @ 11:06 am

Please don&#039;t forget to read Armed Madhouse by Greg Palast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also recommended for people who want to become fully enraged about whatâ€™s really happening in the world and the politico-corporate-religious alliance thatâ€™s controlling it:</p>
<p>Fall of the House of Bush &#8211; Craig Unger<br />
A Game As Old As Empire &#8211; Steven Hiatt and John Perkins<br />
Confessions of an Economic Hit Man and The Secret History of the American Empire &#8211; John Perkins</p>
<p>- Hussein Toasterhead</p>
<p>Comment by toasterhead â€” March 10, 2008 @ 11:06 am</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t forget to read Armed Madhouse by Greg Palast.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4294739', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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