Dr. Laura blames Spitzer’s wife for scandal.
By on Mar 11th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Dr. Laura blames Spitzer’s wife for scandal.
Today, right-wing radio host Dr. Laura Schlessinger appeared on NBC’s Today Show in a segment called “Why do men cheat?” Schlessinger argued that Gov. Eliot Spitzer (D) cheated because his wife failed “make him feel like a man”:
When the wife does not focus in on the needs and the feelings — sexually, personally — to make him feel like a man, to make him feel like a success, to make him feel like her hero, he’s very susceptible to the charm of some other woman. [...]
The cheating was his decision to repair what’s damaged and to feed himself where he’s starving. But yes, I hold women accountable for tossing out perfectly good men by not treating them with the love and kindness and respect and attention they need.
Watch it:
[flv http://video.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/laura322.320.240.flv]
(HT: Jezebel)
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Wow — I always knew Dr. Laura was full of shit, but this is over the top, even for her.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:24 pmisn’t dr laura divorced/unmarried….
March 11th, 2008 at 3:24 pmCan mainstream media possibly scrape another layer off the bottom of their barrel?
March 11th, 2008 at 3:25 pmLOL WUT?
March 11th, 2008 at 3:26 pmHey Dr Laura, what’s your phone number, how much do you charge?
March 11th, 2008 at 3:27 pmI suppose a woman who cheats is equally blameless in Dr. Laura’s world because her husband didn’t “make her feel like a woman”?
Or does Dr. Laura just think women are put on earth to serve men and nothing else?
March 11th, 2008 at 3:28 pmNo one with a brain would listen to this ding bat..
March 11th, 2008 at 3:28 pmShe get’s paid for this. Wow. And the left is called looney.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:29 pmThis cave-dwelling sea hag is still around?
Well, in any event, she’s got a great embalmer.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:29 pmWow — I always knew Dr. Laura was full of shit, but this is over the top, even for her.
Comment by missmolly — March 11, 2008 @ 3:24 pm
My thought exactly. We should make AQ listen to her show, they’d crack in minutes.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:29 pmDr. Laura is clearly biased on this. After all, she was once cheating with a married man (Dr. Lewis G. Bishop). I’m sure that’s why she blames the wife being cheated on. It’s her way to ignoring her own wrong-doing in her past.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:29 pmNewt wasnt feeling manly? Craig was certainly feeling manly.
Well, this explains Giulianis dress wearing and filandering.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:29 pmFor a so-called Dr., she’s having troubling keeping “love and relationships” separate from “sexual desires.” Maintaining a stable marriage has little to do with sex (especially after 10 years!), unless you’re a shallow, soulless human.
What a stupid fcuk-wit.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:30 pmAs I remember she didn’t do too well with her son. wasn’t he some sort of hooligan, and didn’t she let some photos of her in the altogether get out. So we should all be paying attention to her?
March 11th, 2008 at 3:30 pmShe has a Ph.D. is in physiology from Dumb Ass U.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:31 pmmissmolly said it. Dr. Laura is full of shit. She’s mean-spirited and not particularly insightful, from what I can tell. She seems to be all about assigning blame.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:32 pmSo let me get this straight, Vitter wasnt feeling manly, but he liked wearing diapers…maybe his wife didnt like him being unmanly and wearing diapers and thats why he cheated because he was being cheated out of wearing diapers……
March 11th, 2008 at 3:34 pmShe seems to be all about assigning blame.
Must be where Dr. Phil got his schtick.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:34 pmJust a couple of facts about Laura…
Schlessinger married a dentist when she was 25, and had at least two extramarital affairs before they were divorced.
She is neither a medical doctor nor a psychologist. Her PhD is in physiology — a degree which has nothing to do with human interpersonal relations.
Lani
March 11th, 2008 at 3:35 pmAfter all . . . it is NBC.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:35 pmNext up . . . interview with a serial killer in prison.
I agree RWTL the lady is not a doctor of Psychiatry. I dont think they ever tell the viewers that FACT either.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:35 pmI think Dr Laura had issues with nude pics on the internet a while back, no? Is she not the lady – cough, cough – who was seeing Limbaugh? It sounds as though she is the perfect example for the right side to offer up: “Let me do it, but you better not!” Yep, that is perfect logic for a right sider.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:36 pmShe is, as always, speaking when she doesn’t have the slightest clue what she is talking about.
When she is called “Dr.” and always giving behavioral opinions, it obviously leads people to believe she has a Phd. in the behavioral field. Isn’t this totally false? Isn’t her degree in nutrition?
March 11th, 2008 at 3:36 pmLol Dr. Matt
March 11th, 2008 at 3:36 pmIt sounds more like a Republican excuse for adultery.
Does Dr. Laura know he’s a D and not an R?
March 11th, 2008 at 3:36 pmMy wife sent me an e-mail recently with a real article from Good Housekeeping, circa 1950. It was filled with tips on how to keep your husband happy. It was hilarious on the one hand, and embarassing on the other (with respect to the history of our culture).
It was nearly as out-dated as Dr. Laura’s beliefs! What an idiot. She must go to Huckabee’s church.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:36 pmIsn’t her degree in nutrition?
Comment by Keith
No, it is in sword swallowing – and she is very good at it.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:37 pmIsn’t she the one with the badly screwed-up kids??????
March 11th, 2008 at 3:37 pmThank you, Dr. Laura — for that fine assessment of Silda Spitzer. I’m sure that while she is reeling from the revelation of her husband’s activities and trying to put on a brave face for the public, she values your input. Mrs. Spitzer no doubt is grateful for this wise counsel from an attention-grabbing total stranger such as yourself, because now she knows having her world upended is entirely her fault, and she can now set a course for self-improvement.
sarc/off
March 11th, 2008 at 3:37 pmShe’s a DOCTOR?
March 11th, 2008 at 3:37 pmI wouldn’t have thought she’d even attained a MasterBaiter degree.
Comment by Vet — March 11, 2008 @ 3:36 pm
That was back in the GOP ‘good ole days’ when a little ‘home correction’ was in order if the beds weren’t made, dinner ready to put on the table, when the MAN got home…
March 11th, 2008 at 3:39 pmThis woman is vile beyond words. I once heard her tell a woman who sounded clinically depressed to me that she was just acting like a baby and she should either “pick herself up by her bootstraps” or just off herself. I was so outraged I called the station when I got to my destination and asked them how they could have someone like her on their station. I was told I was not the only one who called and that they were re-assessing whether they would keep her. Of course they did.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:39 pmSchlessinger married a dentist when she was 25, and had at least two extramarital affairs before they were divorced.
She must not have been feeling womanly or maybe she made him not feel manly by not respecting him and cheating on him was a way to make him desire her manliness which was jealousy because he wasnt really manly..
March 11th, 2008 at 3:39 pmI wonder if Spitzer feels manly now.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:41 pmDokter Lora ~ the human shock of crit.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:41 pmThis woman has absolutely NO business handing out psychologically-based interpretations of any kind. I nearly busted my radio a few times years ago when I listened to her spout her uninformed and dangerous recommendations. She has no idea about any normal interpersonal dynamics to say nothing of her total lack of understand of problematic ones.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:43 pmShe must not have been feeling womanly or maybe she made him not feel manly by not respecting him and cheating on him was a way to make him desire her manliness which was jealousy because he wasnt really manly..
Comment by Xisithrus — March 11, 2008 @ 3:39 pm
Actually it is because Dr Laura is gay and still trying to hide from it.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:45 pmROFLMAO
March 11th, 2008 at 3:46 pmI think there is some truth to what she says….
I’ve had many opportunities to cheat on my woman, but I’ve never done it.
Other than the fact that I love her, she always keeps me interested and always keeps me thinking of her. She always looks nice when I come home, and she always take care of my needs. I also try to do the same.
Now, if every man had that, why would anyone cheat?
March 11th, 2008 at 3:47 pmYeh, all you women stay home and act like prositutes and dont get any degrees like happy Dr Laura here.
Snark
March 11th, 2008 at 3:47 pmlol
March 11th, 2008 at 3:48 pmStratRat, a degree in sword swallowing? Were the exams written or oral? Both lectures and labs?
Physiology is a very broad field. It could be studying plant cells, hardly a basis for behavioral advice.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:50 pm“Dr.” Laura is a joke! Why is she even given air time???
March 11th, 2008 at 3:52 pmComment by help.me.jebus — March 11, 2008 @ 3:47 pm
I keep my marriage interesting by paying attention to my wife, who pays attention to me… it’s a two-way street.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:52 pmWhere is her Burka?
March 11th, 2008 at 3:52 pmYeah, I watched the segment live. it was funny for lots of unintentional reasons. especially the other panelist who said that Since ES has a big brow, which means he has lots of testosterone, is why he probably cheats.
that is a new one for me.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:52 pmI agree with her.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:53 pmShe also faults women in domestic violence for placing their face in the way of the husbands fist.
Now tell me again what the difference is between the Christian Taliban and Islamic Taliban?
March 11th, 2008 at 3:54 pmPeople in glass houses. This from a woman who stole her husband away from another woman. The wiki entry for Dr. Laura (a physiologist, not a psychologist) covers all of the 7 deadly sins and then some.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Schlesinger
March 11th, 2008 at 3:54 pmI suppose if they can blame Saddam for 9/11, Clinton for Everything, and Gore for Global Warming then Silda Spitzer may be to blame for Eliot’s indescrections in their little minds…
March 11th, 2008 at 3:54 pmColbert called it “Elliot Mess”. Jon Stewart said “SpitsOr Swallows”.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:54 pm“he’s very susceptible to the charm of some other woman”
He paid a hooker he didn’t pick up some woman flirting with him in a bar, byatch. Let me at her let me at her.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:56 pmHow can one accept advice from a person with a sociopath son and one that has naked pics all over the web?
March 11th, 2008 at 3:57 pmIsn’t she the one with the badly screwed-up kids??????
Comment by tombaker
No she is famous for finding out her mothers mummified corpse had been ignored for months after her neglect and death.
Yeah this b*tch is such the ‘family expert’
March 11th, 2008 at 3:57 pmWow. It takes a lot to piss me off these days (my piss-o-meter being broken from too much use), but that Really. Pisses. Me. Off.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:58 pmWomen you go!!! You play no responsibility in your husbands adultery. Don’t put out for your husband. Don’t attend to the needs of the one you promised to “love, honor, and obey.” A woman’s career is more important than the family institution of those wacko fanatics that founded this country.
As far as Dr. Laura is concerned, hmmm.. maybe she is right. The wife was worried more about appearances than working in tandem with her husband to see that the couples needs were met.
Couples ought to work together to ensure a happy marriage. Men don’t give sex to their wives. Women honor men by allowing men to make love to them. Last time I heard about a man taking sex from the wife he was arrested and put in prison, It is called “RAPE”. When a woman allows her man to make love to her, it is a blessing!!
When women “withhold” sex because she feels tired, has a headache, or isn’t in the mood, she is tellling her husband, “go find it elsewhere”. Then if the wife has withheld long enough, the husband does go elsewhere. Then the wife is upset because the husband went elsewhere.
If the couple spend time together, work together, play together, have sex together, they will not go out looking for those life fulfilling activities from others.
But then I really shouldn’t try explaining marital dynamics to a group of liberals who feel the family institution and moral ethics are a thing of the past.
But from one who has been married for 26 years now with a wife who loves me, honors me, and I honor and respect her, and we work together to make every day of our marriage better than the last, this group will probably try to discredit my 26 years of living the same kind of morals and ethics that Dr Laura is trying to get others to understand.
If you don’t live it, you will NOT understand it. Sorry!
March 11th, 2008 at 3:58 pmTherefore, yes, his wife failed him, but he still must answer to God.
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 3:57 pm
And how, exactly do you and Dr. Laura know that the reason Elliott Spitzer cheated is because his wife “failed” him? Have you been hiding out in their bedroom?
The truth is — neither one of you has a CLUE what goes on privately in their marriage. The pompous ravings from both of you are just so much hot air.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:01 pmComment by LostInTheConfusion — March 11, 2008 @ 3:58 pm
You definitely are lost and confused, I must say.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:02 pmI agree with her.
Comment by Namtillaku
Latest stuedies show 9 out of 10 Cromagnan’s do too.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:02 pmDarryll, Dr. Laura and all you other rightwing trolls…you are cordially invited to EAT SH*T AND DIE.
Any old time. I’ll happily provide the sh*t.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:03 pmIf you don’t live it, you will NOT understand it. Sorry!
Comment by LostInTheConfusion — March 11, 2008 @ 3:58 pm
… and how long have you been married to Mrs. Spitzer? Oh, you haven’t? Then I’d say neither you or Dr. Laura have any idea what their marriage was like in or out of the bedroom…
March 11th, 2008 at 4:03 pmComment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 3:57 pm
So, Daryll, the only reason a man spends money on a prostitute is if his wife is failing in her “duty”? Are you really that daffy?
March 11th, 2008 at 4:03 pmDaryll.
Nice to see you! Man your pastor is a randy fellow isn’t he. I hear you, considering some of the woman I have been with, I have made some serious sacrificing. Is it okay if the little minx let’s you eat shellfish off any of the more interesting parts? I don’t remember the vows getting too specific as to the whole sex details. Are there any specific policies relative to the frequency of fellatio? Can you check with Pastor Horndog on all of this. As usual I am concerned for my soul. Thanks.
Oh yeah what the hell happened to President elect Huckabee. Did you blow it or did the Big Cheese?
March 11th, 2008 at 4:04 pmJust so I’m clear on this: if a married man commits adultery and does not repent for his sin, while his wife leads a life of sinless devotion, does she go to hell?
Oh and by the way, are there any statistics showing that men who cheat have less sex with their wives than those who don’t? Or are we just assuming here?
March 11th, 2008 at 4:04 pmShe has a Ph.D. is in physiology from Dumb Ass U.
Comment by RobertSeattle — March 11, 2008 @ 3:31 pm
She did her undergrad work at Stepford Univ.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:05 pmHe pays $4-5000 to transport a hooker across state lines for her charms? And Spitzer is a Super Delegate who is going to help choose the democrat party nominee?
Comment by Rodham Gin — March 11, 2008 @ 4:01 pm
Not for long. You’re late, though. Goon_golly already showed up with this talking point hours ago. It must be depressing to be slower than goon_golly.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:05 pmRemember that sometimes you have to fulfill your partner’s needs. This is the way God intended it to be. Therefore, yes, his wife failed him, but he still must answer to God.
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 3:57 pm
Spitzer has three children and you have none. None of us has any way of knowing what went on behind closed doors. And men have been having sex with their wives one day and with strangers the next day forever. For now maybe people like you and Laura should just STFU since you’re too stupid to know what you don’t know.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:06 pmI wouldn’t have sex with Dr. Laura with GiGi’s schlong.
Comment by Dr. Matt — March 11, 2008 @ 4:04 pm
That’s assuming the goon is so equipped.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:06 pmAny old time. I’ll happily provide the sh*t.
Comment by Leftside Annie — March 11, 2008 @ 4:03 pm
Two Weirdos, One Cup?
March 11th, 2008 at 4:06 pmIf she is withholding sex then, yes, she failed him as a wife. Why couldn’t she be submissive to her husband? God does delight in relations between a husband and wife.
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 4:05 pm
Why assume she’s withholding anything, Daryll?
March 11th, 2008 at 4:07 pmAnd Spitzer is a Super Delegate who is going to help choose the democrat party nominee?
Comment by Rodham Gin — March 11, 2008 @ 4:01 pm
This from a 19%-er!
March 11th, 2008 at 4:07 pmGreat choice you made, dumbass!
Wow. The ‘charm of another woman’ only cost’s $1,000+ or more. That’s some high-priced hooker charm!
The lesson of this story? Rather than paying a single person for sex services, find a person (or 2, or 3) and a cameraman, then you can SELL your sexual exploits as a product to the general public (18+ of course) and it won’t be considered illegal.
You might even get more votes! Ron Jeremy for Governor!!
March 11th, 2008 at 4:08 pmIf you don’t live it, you will NOT understand it. Sorry!
Comment by LostInTheConfusion — March 11, 2008 @ 3:58 pm
I am a happily married progressive that has been with the same wonderful man for 24 years so take your pompous bs and Cheney yourself with it. You idiots have found another topic you know nothing about but feel free to flap your gums over. Go ask your father if he cheated on your mother, tool. Do you think your mother deserved it, ass.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:09 pmFirst off, how does she know that Mrs. Spitzer didn’t make her husband feel like a man? No offense, but some men are just predisposed to wander, especially those with addictive personality traits. Doesn’t make it right, but unless she’s been the Spitzer’s marital therapist, then just STFU!
Second, aren’t there nude photos of Mrs “June Cleaver” Schlesinger from her first marriage circulating the internet(s)? Did she not have extra marital affairs? boy, her momma must be proud!
I do love how a man’s supposed cheating is the woman’s fault.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:09 pmNotice how Dr. (?) Laura implies that the wife threw our a perfectly good man. Maybe Laura is trying to ostracize her own demons, eh?
If she is withholding sex then, yes, she failed him as a wife. Why couldn’t she be submissive to her husband? God does delight in relations between a husband and wife.
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 4:05 pm
By sex, you mean what exactly. I mean what if his needs range into some other areas. Are you just talking that boring missionary type stuff or are we talking something a little more colorful?
March 11th, 2008 at 4:09 pmDear Dr. Laura,
Following this train of thought, please explain the current phenomenon of Republic Politicians having extra-marital affairs with other men. If the closeted homosexual prefers men to women, how is his wife supposed to satisfy his sexual desires? Should the wife get a sex change operation in order to please her man?
Thank You
Fitzgerald Hussein Roket
March 11th, 2008 at 4:10 pmShorter Version – I’m nutz.
More Stupid Comments by Daryll
You are just sooooo vile, you couldn’t catch a cold, much less a clue.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:11 pmAnd Spitzer is a Super Delegate who is going to help choose the democrat party nominee?
Comment by Rodham Gin — March 11, 2008 @ 4:01 pm
You’re the second person here who has suggested that Spitzer shouldn’t be a delegate because of his peccadilloes. Spitzer is a superdelegate by virtue of his being Governor of New York. If he is no longer governor by the time the convention rolls around, it will be up to the Democratic Party leadership to re-evaluate his delegate status.
But your concern is noted, and I am inferring from this that you believe employing the services of a prostitute should disqualify anyone from being a delegate to his party’s convention.
I suggest we start with the Republican Party. Business was booming in New York City’s sex trade during the Republican National Convention in 2004 — they were even flying in sex workers to keep up with the demand.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:12 pmDaryll is playing God. Again. I guess we should all kneel before him and thank him for his omniscient understanding of the personal life of the Spitzers.
Except, I’m confused. Is Daryll or Dr. Laura God? Or is this a new Dynamic Duo God, one male form and one female form?
March 11th, 2008 at 4:12 pmIf you don’t live it, you will NOT understand it. Sorry!
Comment by LostInTheConfusion — March 11, 2008 @ 3:58 pm
So how many of the republican candidates this time around were on wife one, again? It was one right? So what gives with your argument that liberals don’t get it. Wanna find some stats on infidelity and divorce rates by party. Till then, you long winded sanctimonious post is just plan ridiculous.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:14 pmAre you just talking that boring missionary type stuff or are we talking something a little more colorful?
Comment by dbadass — March 11, 2008 @ 4:09 pm
Careful! You just may get a rather graphic description of Daryll of Parodyll’s man fantasy!
March 11th, 2008 at 4:14 pmYou have been warned!
That’s not what Dr. Laura said about Bill Clinton.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:14 pmDr. Laura is right. As my pastor would say, you cannot withhold the goods.
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 3:57 pm
Oooo. Apparently, Daryll has some inside dope on the Spitzer marital dynamic.
Tell us, Daryll, exactly WHAT “goods” did she withhold? How often did the governor request said “goods”? What was her excuse for withholding these “goods”?
Prying eyes want to know, Daryll. Dish it, brother.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:14 pmLatest stuedies show 9 out of 10 Cromagnan’s do too.
Comment by Your Conscience — March 11, 2008 @ 4:02 pm
Got a link? Didn’t think so.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:15 pmIf she is withholding sex then, yes, she failed him as a wife. Why couldn’t she be submissive to her husband? God does delight in relations between a husband and wife.
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 4:05 pm
How would you know if she was withholding sex? When your dad cheated on your mother was it because she wasn’t having sex with him any more?
March 11th, 2008 at 4:15 pmShe has a Ph.D. is in physiology from Dumb Ass U.
Comment by RobertSeattle — March 11, 2008 @ 3:31 pm
Did she give an oral dissertation?
March 11th, 2008 at 4:15 pmGo ask your father if he cheated on your mother, tool. Do you think your mother deserved it, ass.
Comment by Shayne — March 11, 2008 @ 4:09 pm
Comment 80 about Comment 60 is proof that yes liberalism is a social disorder of the highest degree.
Father never cheated on mother in the 47 years they were married before he passed away.
Thanks for showing how intolerant the left is when issues of morals and ethics are discussed.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:16 pmComment by Daryll
March 11th, 2008 at 4:16 pmDr. Laura is NOT right… she is giving permission to every horned out married guy to have sex unfaithfully. I guess in your world this does not work the other way…if a married woman finds a guy attractive, then shouldn’t she be able to have an affair with him and claim it is the husbands fault?
If she is withholding sex then, yes, she failed him as a wife. Why couldn’t she be submissive to her husband? God does delight in relations between a husband and wife.
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 4:05 pm
Did you even READ my post before you blasted your response to it? My point was that you have NO IDEA whether she was “withholding sex” or not. And you have no idea how submissive she is. Yet here you are passing judgment — something Jesus cautioned you not to do in His Sermon on the Mount.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:17 pmIf she is withholding sex then, yes, she failed him as a wife. Why couldn’t she be submissive to her husband? God does delight in relations between a husband and wife.
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 4:05 pm
Despite the conditional “if” with which Daryll begins this post, it sounds an awful lot like he is assuming that Silda Spitzer wasn’t “submissive to her husband.”
That sounds like one person sitting in judgment of another, to me.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:17 pmComment by LostInTheConfusion — March 11, 2008 @ 4:16 pm
Confused you are!
March 11th, 2008 at 4:20 pmMy question is, why the late arrivals of the trolls today?
I mean, it seems like they had a staff meeting and the only thing they’ve taken away from it is “Superdelegate #9″. Couldn’t the RNC have texted that to them? Or emailed? Did they have to waste four hours in a Tuesday morning staff meeting?
No wonder the RNC is blaimg the RNC for stealing its money. They’re really just trying to cover up this kind of absurd waste.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:21 pmso typical of thinkprogress hacks to attack Dr. Laura instead of demand that the sleazy Spitzer resign immediately. Whatever.
Comment by jackballs — March 11, 2008 @ 4:18 pm
Yet, most every TP hack here stated on another thread that pertained to your topic, that if what he did was illegal, he should resign.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:21 pmWe are not the apologists that the right has.
We see something illegal or unethical, we demand justice.
Try it sometime.
Daryll.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:21 pmSo what’s up when she is the adulterer? Did he fail in his duty? Female sneak copulation is quite common in many species formerly thought to be monogamous. That’s one of the cool things about DNA. Bird babes are notorious for that sort of deal.
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Dr. Laura isn’t a right-wing anything.. she’s just a dope. Honestly, its so typical of thinkprogress hacks to attack Dr. Laura instead of demand that the sleazy Spitzer resign immediately. Whatever.
Comment by jackball — March 11, 2008 @ 4:18 pm
Dumbass, go to yesterdays blog and see just how many called for him to resign. Typical jackass troll right wing nut grabber.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:22 pmIf she is withholding sex then, yes, she failed him as a wife. Why couldn’t she be submissive to her husband? God does delight in relations between a husband and wife.
Comment by Daryll
Then if the husband withholds sex the wife can look else where also?
March 11th, 2008 at 4:22 pmWomen have been doing the same thing, as well (incognito). My wife and I never have to go through this issue. I will admit, there have been times when I didn’t want to do it, but I did it anyway because I love her (plus she knows how to butter my bread).
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 4:19 pm
How do you know what she does when you’re not around. People know when you’re doing something you don’t want to because you’re supposed to. She’s probably looking for your replacement right now.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:22 pmits so typical of thinkprogress hacks to attack Dr. Laura instead of demand that the sleazy Spitzer resign immediately. Whatever.
Comment by jackoff — March 11, 2008 @ 4:18 pm
Umm… go back and read the two Spitzer threads from yesterday, jacko. Many of us immediately called for Spitzer’s resignation.
But, hey, don’t “facts” get in the way of a “clueless screed”.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:22 pmDr. Laura isn’t a right-wing anything.. she’s just a dope. Honestly, its so typical of thinkprogress hacks to attack Dr. Laura instead of demand that the sleazy Spitzer resign immediately. Whatever.
Comment by jackball — March 11, 2008 @ 4:18 pm
Ah yes, the “isn’t a right-winger” line. You guys already tried that on Shrubbie. Didn’t work then, either.
And as for calling on Spitzer to resign, already done.
Did you call on Vitter to resign a Republican Senate seat in a state with a Democratic governor?
March 11th, 2008 at 4:23 pmso typical of thinkprogress hacks to attack Dr. Laura instead of demand that the sleazy Spitzer resign immediately. Whatever.
Comment by jackballs — March 11, 2008 @ 4:18 pm
He already resigned jackass. Spitzer’s stupidity and Laura’s aren’t mutually exclusive.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:24 pmFather never cheated on mother in the 47 years they were married before he passed away.
Thanks for showing how intolerant the left is when issues of morals and ethics are discussed.
Comment by LostInTheConfusion — March 11, 2008 @ 4:16 pm
No disrespect to father or mother but how the hell would you know? Infidelity is not a political affiliated activity. Was Newt a liberal?
March 11th, 2008 at 4:24 pmIf anyone here thinks that Daryll of Parodyll is here for intelligent debate, and not a moronic “plant”, just read his quote at 4:19pm.
Seriously, read it.
“she butters my bread”
OMG, how sophomoric.
Dude, it’s okay to come out of the closet. We “lefties” are much more accepting than your clan (cult).
March 11th, 2008 at 4:25 pmThey are married. They can handle their sexual encounters in any manner. There is no biblical scripture banning erroneus sexual encounters with your spouse.
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 4:21 pm
Oh yes there is. Do you even own a bible?
March 11th, 2008 at 4:25 pmBut then I really shouldn’t try explaining marital dynamics to a group of liberals who feel the family institution and moral ethics are a thing of the past.
Comment by LostInTheConfusion — March 11, 2008 @ 3:58 pm
We do not have any problem with family institution and moral ethics. In fact, most of us are fans of those very things.
However we don’t consider it very “moral” to automatically put the blame on a wife WE DON’T EVEN KNOW when her husband has been caught cheating with a prostitute.
Dr. Laura’s pontifications have caused many of your ilk to make pompous statements of your own about how it’s the wife’s responsibility to keep the man from straying, and implying (if not stating outright) that it’s all Elliott’s wife’s fault that he committed adultery.
Making such implications and accusations of Silda Spitzer when you honestly have no idea what the inside of their marriage is like is not only immoral, it’s downright mean. You should be ashamed of yourself.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:25 pm“Therefore, yes, his wife failed him, but he still must answer to God.”
That is such horse hockey. How do you know his wife failed him? Because she didn’t like to do the twisted things Spitzer wanted? Spitzer failed his wife by not living up to his end of the commitment of marriage. You’d think a God-fearing troll like Darryl would understand this. If Spitzer’s wife wasn’t willing to have kinky sex and he wanted it, he should have divorced her and THEN called a hooker.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:26 pmYou are such a lady.
Comment by Southern Man — March 11, 2008 @ 4:23 pm
Yeah, too bad you’re not a real man.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:26 pmFor all the “high morals” Republican trolls posting here, I have a question for you. Where is your outrage about David Vitter? Where are your calls for him to step down? Where is your outrage about Larry Craig, who still has a job in Congress? Where was your outrage about Rudy Giuliani’s cheating on his wives? Where was your outrage when your party leaders were protecting child predator Mark Foley? Where’s your outrage about the three wives and all the girlfriends of Rush Limbaugh, including his shady trips to the Dominican Republican with his illegal viagra prescription?
Until you guys can be consistent with your morality, please shut up.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:27 pmThey are married. They can handle their sexual encounters in any manner. There is no biblical scripture banning erroneus sexual encounters with your spouse.
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 4:21 pm
So I will take it that eating those shrimp off her belly is no eternal damnation deal. Now based on the above, I have to figure that sodomy is A-Okay too. Dude, maybe you aren’t so crazt after all
March 11th, 2008 at 4:27 pmFather never cheated on mother in the 47 years they were married before he passed away.
Thanks for showing how intolerant the left is when issues of morals and ethics are discussed.
Comment by LostInTheConfusion — March 11, 2008 @ 4:16 pm
But you can’t go ask him that question now so how do you know. Go ask you mother what she thinks and get back to us. You people discussing morals and ethics is the epitome of irony though, I’ll give you that.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:29 pmThere is no biblical scripture banning erroneus sexual encounters with your spouse.
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 4:21 pm
you can take your biblical scriptures and ram ‘em up your poop shoot!
March 11th, 2008 at 4:30 pmDaryll STILL hasn’t explained how he knows she was withholding sex.
Daryll?
March 11th, 2008 at 4:31 pmNever happened. Next week they will be celebrating 43 years of marriage. Most of the time, a spouse cheats because of the lack of sex with their significant other. This is especially true for men.
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 4:25 pm
You people need to read a book other than the bible and stop making stuff up all the time. Go ask your mother and father if it ever happened and then get back to us.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:31 pmUntil you guys can be consistent with your morality, please shut up.
Comment by BrianFL — March 11, 2008 @ 4:27 pm
Democrats are ones to speak!!!!
March 11th, 2008 at 4:31 pmI can just see the next politician who gets caught with his pants down saying, “I couldn’t help it — my wife DROVE me to it!”
Of course, he will still have to either resign or retire at the end of his term. He’d never get re-elected after a statement like that since only Dr. Laura, Daryll, and LostInTheConfusion would vote for him.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:31 pmI’m no right winger, but your knee-jerk assumptions and name calling shows how unbalanced and one-dimensional you are.
Comment by jackballs — March 11, 2008 @ 4:26 pm
I’m curious, when did I name call?
(By the way, it was your first post that called us “TP hacks)
I so love how a poster attacks, then defends itself as the victim, then attacks again.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:31 pmThanks for showing how intolerant the left is when issues of morals and ethics are discussed.
Comment by LostInTheConfusion — March 11, 2008 @ 4:16 pm
Okay, we went over this yesterday with TracySquared… morals and ethics are two different things…
Morals are your internal compass for deciding what’s right and wrong.
Ethics are the rules that society agrees on that shape acceptable behavior.
Maybe Spitzer has no moral issue with patronizing a prostitute, I have no way of knowing… but he does have an ETHICAL duty not to. Him being a govenor and crusader against it and all.
What’s more, your insitance that he was within his rights as a husband to stray because his wife didn’t act wifely is silly… Neither you NOR Dr. Laura has any idea what happens in the Spitzer marriage- and you have no right to either.
We want him to resign because of his ETHICAL violation, not his MORAL one- that’s a private matter between Spitzer and his family.
Why is the right so confused by the difference between private MORAL concerns and public ETHICAL ones?
March 11th, 2008 at 4:31 pmGod does delight in relations between a husband and wife.
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 4:05 pm
So God’s main hobby is being a peeping tom?
Spitzer’s wife didn’t fail him at all. He failed her. He could have gotten sex anywhere but, he paid for special treatment. Maybe he wanted “Mommy” to spank the bad boy. Maybe he liked bondage. Maybe he had a toe fetish, whatever. A woman doesn’t have to be into all the kinky shit a man is into and vice versa. Marriage is about cooperation, compromise, compassion and committment. He failed.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:32 pmDaryll STILL hasn’t explained how he knows she was withholding sex.
Daryll?
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — March 11, 2008 @ 4:31 pm
God told him. Right after that stuff about President Huckabee
March 11th, 2008 at 4:33 pmLate to this thread, but still have to say about Schlessinger: what a contemptible little shrew.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:33 pm131 belac and 132 Mr. Evil — both great comments.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:34 pmReminder to the witch, check back after shopping, this thread may go to 300 with the bible thumper’s backing a nut bag that left her mother’s remains for day’s when she knew she was ill….Had several affair’s while married, was a low key picture porn queen, abandonded her kid, was a radio talk nut claiming to be a Dr. when in realety was a P.E. Physical ed major……This could get real good…..Thump on troll’s, you are so much fun to read on a dreary day….Be sure and add a bunch more on what you think about the women or wive’s of men who like to play…….
March 11th, 2008 at 4:34 pmThe founding fathers saw little or no difference to morals and ethics.
When did this society leave the morals upon which it was founded?
March 11th, 2008 at 4:34 pmDemocrats are ones to speak!!!!
Comment by LostInTheConfusion — March 11, 2008 @ 4:31 pm
Are you still looking for some evidence that adultery is correlated with political party affiliation or are you just going to continue down this course of I said it so it is true?
March 11th, 2008 at 4:36 pm“There is no biblical scripture banning erroneus sexual encounters with your spouse.
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 4:21 pm”
Do tell Daryll – what (are) erroneus sexual encounters?
March 11th, 2008 at 4:37 pmThe founding fathers saw little or no difference to morals and ethics.
When did this society leave the morals upon which it was founded?
Comment by LostInTheConfusion — March 11, 2008 @ 4:34 pm
Maybe when we stopped owning slaves and growing hemp. When you are done showing how adultery is statistically linked to political party affiliation cane you hop to some fragmental eveidence to support your newest arbitrary belief
March 11th, 2008 at 4:38 pmThe founding fathers saw little or no difference to morals and ethics.
When did this society leave the morals upon which it was founded?
Comment by LostInTheConfusion — March 11, 2008 @ 4:34 pm
Of course they did, THEY were all classically educated.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:38 pmRead this thread for more info… it’s getting boring posting the same answers…
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/10/spitzer-linked-to-prostitution-ring/#comments
Morals v. Ethics discussion begins @ #286
When did this society leave the morals upon which it was founded?
Comment by LostInTheConfusion — March 11, 2008 @ 4:34 pm
As soon as they led the Indian men out into the prairies and then proceded to slaughter the women and children back at the teepees.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:39 pm“We must be able to dish it out, as well. And if she is not enjoying it, she must voice her opinion and give him helpful insight and techniques to please her. There is no excuse.”
How do you know that it happened this way? From what I’ve read, Spitzer was into some kinky stuff. He could have been too embarrassed to tell his wife he liked to be dominated.
There is no excuse for cheating on your spouse with a prostitute.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:40 pmI wasn’t speaking to you Shayne. Why did you feel the need to protect zooey? I know she needs help, but maybe she doesn’t. Very macho of you. Are you all a couple? Standing up for your woman?
Comment by Southern Man — March 11, 2008 @ 4:37 pm
It wasn’t Zooey, bonehead. It was Leftside Annie. Do try to keep your targets straight when you’re insulting women.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:40 pmOkay, so according to Daryll of Parodyll and Dr. June Cleaver, if the night before I go to Vegas, I’m “horned up”, but my wife negates the intent, due to her taking care of 3 kids all day, I have a free pass at the Bunny Ranch?
Sweet!
Now if I can just do well at the Black Jack tables to cover my expense….
(the above scenerio was hypothetical. If I were to actually do such an atrocity, my wife would pull a “Bobbit”, and that ain’t no joke!)
March 11th, 2008 at 4:40 pmDo tell Daryll – what (are) erroneus sexual encounters?
Sounds like the “oops, wrong hole honey” type to me, something gay-man-lover-Daryll is quite accustomed to, or rather, prefers.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:40 pmWhat’s more, your insitance that he was within his rights as a husband to stray because his wife didn’t act wifely is silly…
Comment by belac — March 11, 2008 @ 4:31 pm
Yet another tactic by liberals… I did not insist he was within his rights?
Why cant liberals read and quote without changing the entire tenor of the original statement. What I referred to was simply one of many reasons that husbands wander. You chose to change the words and the meaning in which they were used.
Great way to change an argument!
March 11th, 2008 at 4:41 pmAs usual, Daryll lights up the boards with his naive, forlorn dufidity.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:44 pmOh Daryll, give it up, give it up NOW. ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh……….
March 11th, 2008 at 4:44 pmYO DARYLL!
You said:
“yes, his wife failed him”
and
“Why couldn’t she be submissive to her husband?”
HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS?
March 11th, 2008 at 4:44 pmOMG, D, don’t tell me your wife doesn’t give you skull?
Wow, you should be showing her how to do it without scraping your tool raw, dude!
March 11th, 2008 at 4:45 pmComment by LostInTheConfusion — March 11, 2008 @ 4:41 pm
We don’t need to know why he wandered- the WHY is not the issue, that’s why I say it’s a PRIVATE MORAL ISSUE.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:45 pmIt’s the patronizing of prostitutes that’s the problem- read the whole post… That’s a PUBLIC ETHICAL ISSUE…
He broke his contract with the people of New York…
He should resign- whether he broke a contract between he and his wife is a matter that needs to be discussed privately…
Why can’t you read my post? I guess it’s a great way to change an argument.
Do tell Daryll – what (are) erroneus sexual encounters?
Comment by ebbAndflow — March 11, 2008 @ 4:37 pm
Oral, exhibitionism, etc.
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 4:43 pm
So, Daryll, the wife is just supposed to lie down, spread, close her eyes, clinch her teeth, not utter a sound (so as not to imply that she too, derives pleasure from sex) and let the man have his way with her. When finished she is to immediately cover herself in shame because she’s not supposed to expose herself, even to her husband. Am I close Daryll?
March 11th, 2008 at 4:47 pmOral, exhibitionism, etc.
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 4:43 pm
Sodomy? what about sodomy? Is sodomy one of them?
March 11th, 2008 at 4:48 pmHey D! Have you given your princess a pearl necklace yet>?
March 11th, 2008 at 4:48 pmMaybe I won’t go shopping after all, this is getting funnier by the minute..Damn these bible thumper’s realy have the hang up’s and then of course they have to blame us on the left for their weirdness….LOL…The witch think’s they protest to much…..Blessings
March 11th, 2008 at 4:49 pmYes, Laura, everything will be just fine if a woman is a subservient, submissive (Republican) woman.
** roll eyes **
March 11th, 2008 at 4:49 pmNot Satan, D, I worship Crom, the Cimmerian god.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:49 pmNo, if both parties commit adultery, they are both considered sinners in the eyes of God.
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 4:29 pm
WRONG! The Bible says women who commit adultery must be stoned to death. I don’t believe there is any penalty at all for men. Also death for women who are not virgins on their wedding night.
Answer to earlier question: red states have much worse divorce rates than blue states.
hadenough, from you links to laura’s pics, I learned that she is not a natural blonde. Be careful though, some people on the west coast are still eating lunch!
March 11th, 2008 at 4:49 pmWitchyOne ~ protest WAY too much!! ROFLMAO!!!
March 11th, 2008 at 4:50 pmWhy can’t you read my post? I guess it’s a great way to change an argument.
Comment by belac — March 11, 2008 @ 4:45 pm
Because that would require ConfusedOne to abandon his sweeping generalizations about “libruls” and deal with a real argument.
Troll school doesn’t equip them for that.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:50 pmWhy cant liberals read and quote without changing the entire tenor of the original statement. What I referred to was simply one of many reasons that husbands wander. You chose to change the words and the meaning in which they were used.
Great way to change an argument!
Comment by LostInTheConfusion — March 11, 2008 @ 4:41 pm
Isn’t that a little disengenuous. You didn’t just try to post a simple reason why a man might wander. Instead you attempt to find a political linkage to a nonpolitical human behavior.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:50 pmNot Satan, D, I worship Crom, the Cimmerian god.
Comment by RUCerious — March 11, 2008 @ 4:49 pm
but if he fails you this time…
March 11th, 2008 at 4:50 pmCROM!!!
Hey Daryll, ever play ‘tonguemaster general?” C’mon man, let your wife have a good day!
March 11th, 2008 at 4:51 pmbelac, he cares little about the needs of mortals. One even risks his wrath by calling on him in supplication!
March 11th, 2008 at 4:51 pmSatan has taken over the minds of a few people, but he has no power.
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 4:48 pm
Seems to me that if Satan had no power, he wouldn’t be able to take over the minds of even a few people.
Care to explain?
And after that, can you explain how you know that Silda Spitzer was inadequately servicing her man?
Thanks.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:52 pmAhh, RUCerious, but my God is the SKY! My God is Bigger than your Crom!
March 11th, 2008 at 4:52 pmLostInTheConfusion
Anyone see the irony in that name?
March 11th, 2008 at 4:53 pmDaryll, you’ve been a good sport absorbing the abuse deservedly heaped upon you on this thread. You just keep being a good husband, and when your wife finally admits she’s been cheating on you, forgive her.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:53 pmIs this her husband?
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 4:51 pm
Jeez, yes, Daryll, it’s her husband.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:53 pmI dunno belac, the gloomy hills of Cimmeria make for a dour deity!
March 11th, 2008 at 4:54 pmSpitzer’s wife didn’t fail him at all. He failed her. He could have gotten sex anywhere but, he paid for special treatment. Maybe he wanted “Mommy†to spank the bad boy. Maybe he liked bondage. Maybe he had a toe fetish, whatever. A woman doesn’t have to be into all the kinky shit a man is into and vice versa. Marriage is about cooperation, compromise, compassion and committment. He failed.
Comment by Mr. Evil — March 11, 2008 @ 4:32 pm
I’m amazed at my fellow progressives attitudes on this. I’m assuming you believe in evolution, yet you completely deny the fact that at our base, we are human animals. Many of our desires & drives are steeped in this fact.
But carry on, y’all seem to know better.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:54 pmOral, exhibitionism
Comment by Daryll of Parodyll — March 11, 2008 @ 4:43 pm
Just remove the comma, and you’ve got just described my first girlfriend in college
:-)
March 11th, 2008 at 4:54 pmForget it, Mr Evil. The density of Daryll’s skull is only matched by the baser metals.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:54 pmLostInTheConfusion
Anyone see the irony in that name?
Comment by Mr. Evil — March 11, 2008 @ 4:53 pm
Nope. Seems like a perfectly apt moniker, given the troll’s contributions to the thread.
Being lost in confusion certainly would excuse most of his cries for help from progressives.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:55 pmMaybe when we stopped owning slaves and growing hemp. When you are done showing how adultery is statistically linked to political party affiliation cane you hop to some fragmental eveidence to support your newest arbitrary belief
Comment by dbadass — March 11, 2008 @ 4:38 pm
Posters such as LostInTheConfusion and Daryll are merely embracing Dr. Laura’s BS in order to set themselves up to defend their heroes.
They haven’t acknowledged (or probably even noticed) that the lefties are not defending Spitzer’s dalliances. In fact, the only posts defending Spitzer have come from the “blame the wife” crowd — those two.
There’s a good reason for this. Their heroes — John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, Newt Gingrich, Fred Thompson, etc — have made a practice of trading in their wives for younger, newer ones. And for at least some of them, having affairs with the new ones while still married to the old ones, and then dumping the old ones in very cruel ways. Now they can defend their heroes by saying that the old wives “just weren’t meeting their husbands’ needs.”
March 11th, 2008 at 4:55 pmlmao!!!
March 11th, 2008 at 4:55 pmI will not release our sexual encounters. It is between us and God. Save your soul before it’s too late.
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 4:53 pm
I am becoming ever more impressed with you Daryll. You are not nearly as closed minded as I have previously thought. A lot of ladies enjoy the company of multiples
March 11th, 2008 at 4:56 pmDo tell Daryll – what (are) erroneus sexual encounters?
Comment by ebbAndflow — March 11, 2008 @ 4:37 pm
Oral, exhibitionism, etc.
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 4:43 pm
But not that watermelon you bore a hole in and used to caress, right?
March 11th, 2008 at 4:56 pmSo, Daryll, the wife is just supposed to lie down, spread, close her eyes, clinch her teeth, not utter a sound (so as not to imply that she too, derives pleasure from sex) and let the man have his way with her. When finished she is to immediately cover herself in shame because she’s not supposed to expose herself, even to her husband. Am I close Daryll?
Comment by Mr. Evil — March 11, 2008 @ 4:47 pm
Is this her husband?
Comment by Daryll
Actually Daryll, if you had been able to grasp the context of Mr.Evils post, you would have noticed the subject was a woman.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:57 pmLike your wife……
Comment by DRxJ — March 11, 2008 @ 4:54 pm
I hope you repented for fornicating.
Comment by Daryll
I’m just happy he told us about it!
March 11th, 2008 at 4:58 pmI hope you repented for fornicating.
Comment by Daryll of Parodyll — March 11, 2008 @ 4:56 pm
Maybe. But I do plan on fornicating for repentance.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:58 pmwe are human animals. Many of our desires & drives are steeped in this fact.
But carry on, y’all seem to know better.
Comment by Namtillaku — March 11, 2008 @ 4:54 pm
Yes, but we have evolved to some extent to abide by logic and reason instead of primal instinct.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:58 pmWhy does Daryll respond to some posts regarding his own sex life (I’m still trying to get the suggestion of Daryll getting his bread buttered out of my mind) but completely ignores those which ask about his evidently intimate knowledge of the Spitzers marital dynamic?
Could it be he is embarrassed about judging others, in violation of the words of Jesus Christ in the Sermon on the Mount?
Or is he just really busy trying to juggle all of the mushballs of Christian Taliban sexual philosophy that he’s thrown up in the air here?
March 11th, 2008 at 4:59 pmBut carry on, y’all seem to know better.
Comment by Namtillaku — March 11, 2008 @ 4:54 pm
May I suggest any of the works of Frans DeWaal
March 11th, 2008 at 4:59 pmGood Lord – what year is this woman living in???!!!! I find her comments unbelievable – I didn’t think anyone (outside of Mrs. Huckabee and possibly those in Iran) that still believe this type of hooey. Sheesh.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:59 pmI will not release our sexual encounters. It is between us and God.
Comment by Daryll
No wonder you can’t get pregnant.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:00 pmDoes god have to wipe itself off?
But not that watermelon you bore a hole in and used to caress, right?
Comment by DieNowForPeace — March 11, 2008 @ 4:56 pm
OMFG!!! LMAO
March 11th, 2008 at 5:00 pmWrong, adding another person into the mix is adultery, and if you are thinking about it right now, you are committing a sin.
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 4:58 pm
Yeah, well, me and sin have a close relationship. So D, how do you feel about the addition of polluting the biosphere and getting unreasonably wealthy to the no-no list?
March 11th, 2008 at 5:01 pmOral, exhibitionism
Just remove the comma, and you’ve got just described my first girlfriend in college
:-)
Comment by DRxJ — March 11, 2008 @ 4:54 pm
I hope you repented for fornicating.
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 4:56 pm
You sure do know a lot of stuff about other people, Daryll.
How do you know that DRxJ “fornicated”?
How do you know that Mrs. Spitzer “failed her husband”?
How do you know that Mike Huckabee will be President-elect Huckabee?
How do you know these things, Daryll?
March 11th, 2008 at 5:01 pmHELL IS REAL.
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 5:00 pm
and again we get back to this. Don’t blow a gasket, just find us a little empirical evidence for this place.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:02 pmI will not release our sexual encounters. It is between us and God. Save your soul before it’s too late.
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 4:53 pm
Somehow I get the sense that his wife doesn’t ‘release’ her sexual encounters either.
I have saved my soul. It’s in a safe deposit box at the bank.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:02 pmI REBUKE THE DEVIL THAT IS IN YOU!!! HELL IS REAL.
Comment by Daryll Of Parodyll — March 11, 2008 @ 5:00 pm
Relax, son. Yes, I have repented my past sins. Many, a many, a many a times I have repented. Too numerous to count (don’t wanna make your head spin)
March 11th, 2008 at 5:03 pmThis whole thread has made me sick. I am tired of hearing right wing conservatives talk about moral values. If they truly believe that:
1. They should demand that John McCain retire from the presidential race this very second. His conduct with his first wife that consisted of having an affair and dumping her to marry his trophy wife. Too bad McCain’s first wife had been disabled in an accident and did not have the money that his second wife had.
2. Oh, there was Guiliani who used taxpayer money for security while he had an affair on his wife as well as dumping her during a news conference. (I guess she just could not put out.) Which divorce was it for him? Where was the condemnation from the party of family values?
3. Hey, wasn’t the Gingrich who tried to force his first wife to sign a favorable divorce settlement while in the hospital suffering from cancer. I guess like McCain’s first wife, she just could not make him feel like a “real man”
4. Why was Thompson even in the running with his record of running around and his trophy wife.
We could go on about the other prominent Republicans who ended up resigning around the Clinton impeachment when they were outed as adulterers. Then there are Vitter and Craig who still remain in Congress. Do we want to talk about the aldulterous, homosexual, thieving leaders of some of the largest evangelical congregations in the United States.
TALK ABOUT HYPOCRISY
March 11th, 2008 at 5:03 pmHell Yeah!!! See you there Daryll.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:03 pmHow do you know these things, Daryll?
Comment by ralph the wonder llama
He sits in his car till all hours of the night, and the little plastic figure on the dashboard tells him.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:04 pmEverything.
REBUKE THE DEVIL THAT IS IN YOU!!! HELL IS REAL.
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 5:00 pm
I’ll see your REBUKE and raise you a REPUDIATE!!!
March 11th, 2008 at 5:04 pmMy mother and father lasted by using the word of God as there tool to have a succesful marriage.
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 4:34 pm
tool?
March 11th, 2008 at 5:04 pminteresting choice of words, Daryll.
for some reason that scene in Exorcist involving Linda Blair and a crucifix come to mind.
So exactly how does this woman know what men want. Speaking as a man, it had NOTHING to do with his wife and the mother of his children. See, men have different sexual desires than women and sometimes the horny sort of piggish side of us just want to have sex with some young thing JUST TO GET OFF. It has nothing to do with anyone not making us feel like a man. Jebus, can someone revoke this nitwit’s Montgomery Ward “doctor’s” license already.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:05 pmCorrection: leftsideannie
She stepped in it ralph. I was just pointing out what a lady she was.
Comment by Southern Man — March 11, 2008 @ 5:03 pm
She didn’t step in anything. Annie’s a delight.
She’s ten times the lady you are.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:05 pmKeep all sexual encounters private.
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 4:48 pm
On the contrary, Daryll. The Bible orders public punishment of those whose sexual practices are not approved by God. How are the God-fearing people supposed to administer God-based justice unless the deviant practices are known publicly?
March 11th, 2008 at 5:05 pmMay I suggest any of the works of Frans DeWaal
Comment by dbadass — March 11, 2008 @ 4:59 pm
Thanks for the tip. It’s pretty telling how many posts there are on this subject. Guess sexuality and perceived perversion really touch close to home.
Oooo ooo ahhh ahhh ahhh!
March 11th, 2008 at 5:06 pmNo, if both parties commit adultery, they are both considered sinners in the eyes of God.
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 4:29 pm
WRONG! The Bible says women who commit adultery must be stoned to death. I don’t believe there is any penalty at all for men. Also death for women who are not virgins on their wedding night.
.
.
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Comment by Keith — March 11, 2008 @ 4:49 pm
The following would be applicable under Mosaic Law. Both the man and the woman are to be executed for adultery. Daryll is correct.
Leviticus 20
Since in the New Testament story of Christ saving a adulteress from being stoned there is no note of the adulterer – only the adulteress is mentioned, there is speculation that Christ stopped the stoning because the Law was not being equally applied. That is, the woman was guilty but the man wasn’t, but this view is speculation.
Also death for women who are not virgins on their wedding night.
Don’t think scripture deals with this specific case, but if you have a reference, I’d like to see it.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:07 pmOn the contrary, Daryll. The Bible orders public punishment of those whose sexual practices are not approved by God. How are the God-fearing people supposed to administer God-based justice unless the deviant practices are known publicly?
Comment by Little Freep Goofballs — March 11, 2008 @ 5:05 pm
Just another biblical oversight. Like the one about where Cain and Abel’s wives came from. Eve, care to answer that one?
March 11th, 2008 at 5:08 pmDr. Laura is a slave to men, talks down to women and cashes in off that. Her “tough talk” is drivel served with a side of mundane crap. She is Mrs. Freeze and wouldn’t be surprised if her body temp was below 32 degrees.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:12 pmThis has a lot to do with evolution. Man was given a certain appetite to go out and procreate promiscuously. Tends to create more offspring and greater chance of the species to survive. Women got stuck bearing the child and rearing it which is a long term commitment for our species. It is amazing that we have developed such strong social structures to create and raise families.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:14 pmDARYLL — HOW DO YOU KNOW SPITZER’S WIFE ‘FAILED HIM”?
March 11th, 2008 at 5:17 pmDon’t think scripture deals with this specific case, but if you have a reference, I’d like to see it.
Comment by bitblt — March 11, 2008 @ 5:07 pm
Can I make one up for you or would you prefer on that was made up 1800 years ago?
March 11th, 2008 at 5:17 pmGod does delight in relations between a husband and wife.
Comment by Daryll — March 11, 2008 @ 4:05 pm
News flash for you, Daryll – your God is a pervert. And so are you.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:18 pmJust another biblical oversight. Like the one about where Cain and Abel’s wives came from. Eve, care to answer that one?
Comment by Mr. Evil — March 11, 2008 @ 5:08 pm
This is probably not an oversight. Few names of the wives of the fathers listed in the first ten books of Genesis are mentioned. Eve is the exception.
The likelihood – but it’s speculation – is that that Cain and Abel married their sisters. Incest was not “against the law†until the Mosaic Law. Jewish tradition is that Eve gave birth to fifty-nine children. After Cain, Abel, and Seth, the Bible says that Adams had other sons and daughters. Further, the Bible records that Adam lived for 900 years.
Using modern population growth formulas there could have been 900 M to 40 B people at the time of Noah’s flood. According to the genealogies in Genesis this would have been about 1500 years from Adam’s creation.
Large families have immense impacts.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:20 pmComment by JMOHR — March 11, 2008 @ 5:14 pm
There is much speculation about this. If you search amazon.com you can find books along the lines of evolution justifies rape, but usually entitled something like: “Evolutionary Basis for Rape.”
March 11th, 2008 at 5:21 pmDARYLL — HOW DO YOU KNOW SPITZER’S WIFE ‘FAILED HIM�
Comment by ralph the wonder llama
Dr. Laura slipped up and told him during their last session.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:23 pmShame on you, Dr.Laura.
Very unprofessional.
Can I make one up for you or would you prefer on that was made up 1800 years ago?
Comment by Nature Rules — March 11, 2008 @ 5:17 pm
Don’t go to the bother. The scriptural reference for your assertion in
Also death for women who are not virgins on their wedding night.
Comment by Keith — March 11, 2008 @ 4:49 pm
will do nicely.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:24 pmWhat’s weird is the fact the bible thumping troll’s are backing a vocal whore…..What’s with that?…She cheated on her husband, abandonded her parent and child. lied about her acredadation and put porn pictures on the net….Gee’s you troll’s realy need a roll model with some value’s…..Are you all still on the 2000 year old book page…Get a F****** grip it is March 11, 2008, seven plus year’s of the bush genocide on the world….Blessings
March 11th, 2008 at 5:24 pmComment by bitblt — March 11, 2008 @ 5:20 pm
There is a suggestion in Genesis that there were other created people besides Adam and Eve.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:25 pmFurther, the Bible records that Adam lived for 900 years.
Isn’t that alone enough to question the validity of the Bible? 900 years!!!!! Humans in the year 2008 CE are living longer than any other time in history.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:26 pmAnd Ralph – thank you. The delight is mutual!!
*muWAH!!*
~L. (It don’t stand for “Lady”) Hussein Annie
March 11th, 2008 at 5:26 pmJust another biblical oversight. Like the one about where Cain and Abel’s wives came from. Eve, care to answer that one?
Comment by Mr. Evil — March 11, 2008 @ 5:08 pm
Eve can’t answer that one, but surely Daryll can. He knows everything, including how much sexual satisfaction Gov. Spitzer received from his wife.
By the way, Daryll, the local newspaper had a listing of babies that were born Sunday. I’m guessing nearly all of them were born in hospitals, with doctors and nurses assisting. Since Sunday is the sabbath, aren’t those hospital workers violating a very important commandment? And how about the mothers? They certainly perfomed “labor” on the Lord’s Day, did they not?
March 11th, 2008 at 5:28 pmThanks to all posters for a much needer hilarity break from the tedium of database maintenance today!
March 11th, 2008 at 5:28 pmThe likelihood – but it’s speculation – is that that Cain and Abel married their sisters..
Comment by bitblt — March 11, 2008 @ 5:20 pm
Of course, bitbit ignores the very real likelihood that the Adam and Eve story is simply a form of creation myth of a type commonly found in cultures around the world.
ralph understands bitbit’s reluctance to release his cherished myth and his willingness to do logical backflips in order to explain its fantastical elements.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:28 pmCue Daryll, flipping thru the net, trying to figure out what a ‘pearl necklace’ is…
March 11th, 2008 at 5:29 pmThe Jenna Bush Clause:
But if this charge is true (that she wasn’t a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father’s house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst.(Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
And the Miss Cleo Clause:
March 11th, 2008 at 5:29 pmA man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death.(Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
“Further, the Bible records that Adam lived for 900 years.”
Biblicals have a lot of gaps to flesh out. Time-lines are just one of them.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:29 pmComment by ralph the wonder llama — March 11, 2008 @ 5:28 pm
ralph has nothing to add, but is impressed by bitbit’s habit of referencing himself while speaking in the third person. ralph figured he’d try it.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:31 pmCue Daryll, flipping thru the net, trying to figure out what a ‘pearl necklace’ is…
Comment by RUCerious — March 11, 2008 @ 5:29 pm
And hopefully he has his pants on because when he finds out he’ll piss himself and discover what a ‘golden shower’ is.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:32 pmCue Daryll, flipping thru the net, trying to figure out what a ‘pearl necklace’ is…
Comment by RUCerious — March 11, 2008 @ 5:29 pm
What’s REALLY funny is that when he finds out, he’ll have to throw out his laptop and buy a new one.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:32 pmEve gave birth to 59 children. What the hell is up with that. Atleast let’s fall back and claim most of that Bible stuff is metaphorical because otherwise it is just plain ridiculous.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:38 pmhe’ll have to throw out his laptop and buy a new one.
That’s because he thinks a laptop is something to sit on.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:38 pmThere is a suggestion in Genesis that there were other created people besides Adam and Eve.
Comment by bitblt — March 11, 2008 @ 5:25 pm
Where? I think I might have a bible around here somewhere. By “suggestion” you don’t me that somebody found a way to interpret a couple of words to try to deal with the clearly impossible genetic implications inherent in creation mythology
March 11th, 2008 at 5:42 pmRUCerious, still looking good and funny….Blessings
March 11th, 2008 at 5:42 pmWhat about Lott and his daughter’s, doe’s that facter into the believer’s of the book on giving someone a free pass…Was just wondering about that one…..Blessings all……Later.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:45 pmComment by Keith — March 11, 2008 @ 5:29 pm
Many of these rules make sense in the context of a wandering tribe that needs to protect itself from disease and whatnot (not all make sense obviously, see the two Kieth has dug up) But that’s all they are- codes for living healthily that have been fetishized into scripture…
I often wonder if in two thousand years Humans will be fetishising “Employees must wash hands before returning to work” signs as well…
March 11th, 2008 at 5:46 pmralph has nothing to add, but is impressed by bitbit’s habit of referencing himself while speaking in the third person. ralph figured he’d try it.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — March 11, 2008 @ 5:31 pm
Ralph (and others) needs to pay closer attention if he is going to refer to himself in the third person. It’s not “bit bit”, it’s “bit BLT”. Apparently, this refers to someone eating a bacon, lettuce and tomato sandwich.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:48 pmThat bacon part sort of concerns me. What with being pork and all. Maybe it is turkey bacon. Can’t be though, nobody actually eats that shit
March 11th, 2008 at 5:56 pmThat bacon part sort of concerns me. What with being pork and all. Maybe it is turkey bacon. Can’t be though, nobody actually eats that shit
Comment by dbadass — March 11, 2008 @ 5:56 pm
Like Daryll, bitbLt probably cherry picks his “laws.” Pork? No problem. Goes great with shrimp and oysters.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:59 pmchorizo and clams. Two great tastes that go great together.
March 11th, 2008 at 6:03 pmDr. Laura loves seeing others stoop down to her level. She must have mistaken us for some one who cares about hearing the perspective of one who’s “been through it all.”
It’s the high horse she wants to ride, but can’t hop on the saddle.
March 11th, 2008 at 6:09 pmfrom wikipedia…and undisputed:
“In 1998…former radio mentor Bill Ballance sold nude photos of Schlessinger, for which she had posed when she and Ballance had an affair in the 1970s.
Schlessinger initially said the photos were not of her, but then claimed a copyright interest in them in court. Eventually, she admitted that the photos were authentic, and read a statement on her radio show addressing the issue.
Schlessinger…said the photos were taken when she was 28 years old, going through a divorce, and had “no moral authority.” She added that she had undergone “profound changes over the course of my life from atheist to observant Jew.”
Schlessinger cheated on her first husband, broke up the marriage of the man who became her second husband, lived with him while unmarried, and intentionally bore a child with him out of wedlock––all things she railed against on her show, but never mentioned were part of her personal life experience.”
March 11th, 2008 at 6:13 pmThe Bacon & Football Clause:
March 11th, 2008 at 6:14 pm(deuteronomy 14.3-21) “Do not eat pigs. They must be considered unclean; they have divided hoofs, but do not chew the cud. Do not eat these animals or even touch their dead bodies.”
Huh. Whaddaya know about? Daryll left without addressing my question.
And it was such a simple question, too.
March 11th, 2008 at 6:20 pmHuh. Whaddaya know about? Daryll left without addressing my question.
And it was such a simple question, too.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — March 11, 2008 @ 6:20 pm
Don’t feel bad. I have been asking for months what I should do about the customers who order shellfish from the purveyor I work for? I have offered to refuse to ship it sort of like those F’ed up pretend pharmacists even. Still Daryll forsakes me and risks my soul to damnation
March 11th, 2008 at 6:25 pmStill Daryll forsakes me and risks my soul to damnation
Comment by dbadass — March 11, 2008 @ 6:25 pm
Oh well, he probably has a lot more important souls to save than ours… Brazilian hookers, for instance.
March 11th, 2008 at 6:31 pmWe care what she says, why?
March 11th, 2008 at 6:33 pmI’d like to think Eve dominated over Adam and Steve. Then Opus Dei didn’t like reading that, so they had to do something about that. That’s why these bible-thumping lunatics don’t like gay marriage, because some of the “indiscriminate” affairs would force them to make a choice of coming in or out of the closet. And maybe when Dr. Laura was younger, one of our finer young men found out she was a total b!tch and that a more understanding relationship…with another man…was the way to go. Because that guy was actually nice, caring and not a judgmental and a frigid pr!ck.
March 11th, 2008 at 6:46 pmSometimes sex is a part of sacrifice, whether you may be tired, not motivated, etc.
WTF????? Sex isn’t about sacrifice between a husband and wife or between 2 consenting adults. This is the stupidist comment I have ever seen.
March 11th, 2008 at 7:04 pmI have a friend, a witty, generous, wonderful guy who was married to an equally wonderful woman. They loved each other tremendously. There were no ‘problems’ in the marriage.
But he had a thing for black hookers.
It was the illicitness of the thing that was so irresistible to him. It was illegal, it was interracial, it was wrong, wrong, wrong–and that’s what turned him on. The sneaking turned him on. The fear of disgrace turned him on.
He would never have cheated on her with a friend. He had no desires in that regard.
We all knew, including her. She understood, but had to feign ignorance.
I’m not saying this was the case with Spitzer, but people who take simplistic views of human sexuality don’t know the first thing about real human beings.
March 11th, 2008 at 7:19 pmThere are enough men and women who do things BECAUSE it’s wrong, because it violates their own beliefs. The nicer their spouse is, the stronger the impulse to prove themselves unworthy via sexual betrayal.
Yes, but we have evolved to some extent to abide by logic and reason instead of primal instinct.
Comment by Mr. Evil — March 11, 2008 @ 4:58 pm
Says you. Yes, we have evolved from our ape-like past, but to deny that it doesn’t greatly influence our behavior now is tantamount to denying global warming.
As JMOHR stated above, what’s really amazing is that we’ve come as far as we have. I find it amusing all of the comments about Dr. Laura from the progressives here and the conservatives here, the two of you are more alike than you would admit.
March 11th, 2008 at 7:22 pmComment by pbg — March 11, 2008 @ 7:19 pm
Comment by Namtillaku — March 11, 2008 @ 7:22 pm
What you two don’t grasp is that the sex has nothing to do with it… I wouldn’t care if he got turned on by smearing himself with feces and then posting photos of it on the digi-web… The ACT is not the problem- the illegality of the act is another matter.
We can debate whether or not prostitution SHOULD be illegal, we can’t debate whether or not is illegal– it is.
Spitzer should resign– he knew the rules and he broke them- I’m sorry that you feel it is prudish to react this way Namtillaku but we MUST hold our leaders to a higher standard. (BTW if this had been sex between him and an aide I would agree that it’s none of our business- but then that wouldn’t be illegal)
The sex is none of our business- none of Dr. Laura’s, none of ours, no business of anyone but his family- they have to deal with it.
March 11th, 2008 at 7:45 pmWhat you two don’t grasp is that the sex has nothing to do with it… I wouldn’t care if he got turned on by smearing himself with feces and then posting photos of it on the digi-web… The ACT is not the problem- the illegality of the act is another matter.
I get it just fine, and in this case I believe Spitzer was wrong. But we’re not talking about his ‘rightness or wrongness’, we’re talking about Dr. Laura’s comment that the reason he strayed was that he wasn’t getting something he needed.
You and I are of the same mind when it comes to the legality of the matter, but the legality of what he did isn’t the subject of this post.
March 11th, 2008 at 7:54 pmComment by Namtillaku — March 11, 2008 @ 7:54 pm
But Dr. Laura has no business even speculating about why he did it- that’s the subject of this post.
March 11th, 2008 at 7:59 pmWe don’t either… none of us knows or should know what goes on in the Spitzer’s marriage- that’s why it’s a private matter.
But Dr. Laura has no business even speculating about why he did it- that’s the subject of this post.
We don’t either… none of us knows or should know what goes on in the Spitzer’s marriage- that’s why it’s a private matter.
Comment by belac — March 11, 2008 @ 7:59 pm
Why doesn’t she have a right to speculate about a public figure’s indiscretions, isn’t that her job? You don’t like it, don’t listen. Don’t read this post – go away.
March 11th, 2008 at 8:06 pmWhy doesn’t she have a right to speculate about a public figure’s indiscretions, isn’t that her job? You don’t like it, don’t listen. Don’t read this post – go away.
Comment by Namtillaku — March 11, 2008 @ 8:06 pm
No- that’s not her job. Or rather, that’s not the media’s job. I have no idea what role Dr. Laura is meant to play…
March 11th, 2008 at 8:17 pmBut the media is not there to titilate and speculate- it is there to report.
Just like ‘balance’ does not equal ‘objectivity’ – ’speculation’ does not equal ‘reporting’
We have a media to inform us of the indescretions of our elected officials and to inform us of the events of the world.
Speculating on whether Mrs. Spitzer is to ‘blame’ for not keeping her man happy is crappy and lazy reporting and I have a right to request better… they are PUBLIC airwaves.
If you want to hear people speculate on why he did it by a subscription to “People” magazine- that’s why IT’S there.
…”buy” a subscription, where-by you might learn.
March 11th, 2008 at 8:18 pmEven their women are anti-women
March 11th, 2008 at 8:21 pmNo- that’s not her job. Or rather, that’s not the media’s job. I have no idea what role Dr. Laura is meant to play…
Oh kay.
March 11th, 2008 at 8:23 pm…to make him feel like a man, to make him feel like a success, to make him feel like her hero…
If a man doesn’t feel like a man, or successful, or like his wife’s hero WITHIN HIMSELF — there’s nothing a wife can do to make him feel it.
F_ck off, “Dr” Laura.
March 11th, 2008 at 9:27 pmIf a man doesn’t feel like a man, or successful, or like his wife’s hero WITHIN HIMSELF — there’s nothing a wife can do to make him feel it.
F_ck off, “Dr†Laura.
Comment by Zooey — March 11, 2008 @ 9:27 pm
Yeah, we’re all islands, and nothing you do or say affects me.
March 11th, 2008 at 9:41 pmNamtilaku-
March 11th, 2008 at 10:09 pmI have no idea what you are trying to say… what is it are about Dr. Laura that you love so much?
She has nothing to add to the discussion about Spitzer- she has no news to deliver… that’s why I say I don’t know what role she has to play.
The news does have a role to play here and they failing- that’s what I object to.
Dr. Laura is an idiot- but she never should have been on the Today Show in the first place.
Eve gave birth to 59 children. What the hell is up with that. Atleast let’s fall back and claim most of that Bible stuff is metaphorical because otherwise it is just plain ridiculous.
Comment by dbadass — March 11, 2008 @ 5:38 pm
Need to read bitblt’s post again. It’s Jewish tradition that Eve gave birth to 59 children. This not in the Bible, and bitblt didn’t say it was in the Bible.
Working from memory here but I think Guiness book of World Records says that the world’s record number of births for one woman is 69. This woman never had less than triplets, and of course, few of the children survived.
March 11th, 2008 at 10:52 pmIn addition, if you check the old Soviet Union you probably wouldn’t have any trouble finding mothers of 20 children. Giving birth to this large number is only significant because they were the children of the first mother.
I have no idea what you are trying to say… what is it are about Dr. Laura that you love so much?
I don’t ‘love’ her, I just think she’s right.
Tell me, was it Spitzer’s intellect that caused him to hire call girls? Was it the rational anti-prostitution crusading AG in him that caused him to hire prostitutes? No, it wasn’t. It was something else. In fact, if it wasn’t his rational self that caused him to do this (and you would have to think before this came up, this is one of the most rational humans out there), then it had to have been something deeper inside of him, something he couldn’t control.
He’s not the only example either, there have been countless public figures who have been caught, but how many average me around the world cheat? So this issue is actually quite a big one, affecting what? Millions of people? I don’t think this is a stretch.
So, we’ve isolated the reason that a man might behave this way. It’s not his rational mind, it’s a deeper, more emotional one. This is something that isn’t controlled by the rational mind (obviously, why would someone throw away their career over it – not rational).
So, what you’re telling me, is that this has no place in our discourse? That millions of men & women cheat on their partners for reasons that are mostly animal and not rational, and this isn’t worthy of comment?
Also, since when is the Today Show news? In my book it never has been, even ‘traditional’ news sources aren’t really news any more. If you want real news, you have to find it. The main stream media has long since dropped news as one of it’s functions, they are entertainment, and that is why you see Dr. Laura on the Today Show making these comments.
Dr. Laura isn’t an idiot, she’s right. You and others here are simply afraid to face up to the animal that is you, human.
March 11th, 2008 at 10:59 pmComment by bitblt — March 11, 2008 @ 10:52 pm
Sure if I felt a need to make a case for the absurd. Do you have any problem with the creation mythologies of other faiths? What does Guiness have to say about the number of species ever placed upon a single vessel?
March 11th, 2008 at 11:03 pm“Further, the Bible records that Adam lived for 900 years.â€
Biblicals have a lot of gaps to flesh out. Time-lines are just one of them.
Comment by Nevar — March 11, 2008 @ 5:29 pm
bitblt’s response is, “Huh?†“Well, maybe.â€
The Bible does record that Adam lived 900 years. This is not a calculation of generations. This is what the Bible reports.
Genesis 5: 5 “Altogether, Adam lived 930 years, and then he died.â€
Later in Genesis in what is called the Table of Nations – the offspring of Noah after the flood around Genesis 10 – the word used to describe father is also the word used to describe grandfather. So there could be gaps in these genealogies like Nevar says.
This is not the case with the genealogies from Adam to Noah. These generations are like this: the father was this old when he fathered the son. The son was this old when he fathered the grandson.
March 11th, 2008 at 11:12 pmYou and others here are simply afraid to face up to the animal that is you, human.
Comment by Namtillaku — March 11, 2008 @ 10:59 pm
I am unafraid to face up to the animal that is me, I just think that Dr. Laura has no reason to comment on the marriage of Spitzer- and neither do you.
No one outside of his circle of friends and family can possibly claim to know the ‘reason’ that Spitzer strayed- it’s undoubtedly personal.
I don’t really want or need to know and I don’t think it has any place in THIS discourse.
If you would like to have a discussion about why people do self-destructive things or why people are attracted to danger that’s a different story- and a different topic.
Dr. Laura IS an idiot because she speaks authoritatively about something that she cannot possibly know anything about- that is, Spitzer’s marriage.
And you’re right- the Today Show isn’t news- but then the Today Show has no place on television, and I DO have a right to say that, as a member of the public, and the show being broadcast on the public airwaves.
This is not news- this is tabloid journalism and it is worthy of criticism.
And Spitzer wasn’t ‘weak’ or ’seduced’ when the opportunity presented itself- he sought out the company of prostitutes, that’s illeagal. That’s what I object to. I would not be advocating that he resign if this were an aide or a journalist that he had an affair with- in that case I would say this is an entirely personal matter and we have no business wasting our time on it. BUT HE BROKE THE LAW-
It’s the ETHICAL violation I object to… NOT any claim of MORAL DECENCY.
It’s one thing to acknowledge that we’re all animals- it is quite another to use that as a universal excuse for poor judgement and self-control.
March 11th, 2008 at 11:24 pmAdam lived 930 years, and then he died.â€
Wow! 850 years of pureed foods and Matlock reruns. What a drag. I’ll take crucifixion
March 11th, 2008 at 11:28 pmMFCC* Laura knows how to “keep a man”. First, you spread your legs, and then you show a big flat-tailed furry rodent you’ve been keeping under your skirt to your sweetie so he can take pictures and spread them (so to speak) all over the internet….
Cheers,
* — Master of Family and Child Counseling — not Psy.D. or M.D…..
March 12th, 2008 at 1:08 am.
Dr. Laura, Dr. Laura,
He thunk with the little head, not the brain. She may have married both, but how he uses them is his decision, not her fault!
.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:13 am.
Yes Dr. Laura,
Let’s blame an out of controll male sex drive on women.
SOLUTION:
B U R K A S!
Protect men from their urges!
.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:16 amDr. Laura isn’t an idiot, she’s right. You and others here are simply afraid to face up to the animal that is you, human.
Comment by Namtillaku — March 11, 2008 @ 10:59 pm
You think “Dr” Laura is RIGHT? She is blaming Spitzer’s wife for HIS behavior, and you think she’s right. Amazing.
You know why he did it? Because he could. He got a little too full of himself, and he did something stupid.
Maybe Spitzer had some issues with his wife, we’ll probably never know, but he CHOSE to go outside his marriage — she didn’t force him.
“Dr” Laura isn’t talking about any “animal” drives we have — she doesn’t know shit about that. She’s outright placing the blame on women.
And you think she’s right.
Brilliant.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:34 amComment by BERT CONVY — March 12, 2008 @ 9:56 am
How about the logic that she considers herself a right-wing conservative and she’s on the radio… can I call her a right-wing radio host now?
March 12th, 2008 at 10:04 amI’m not a liberal. I used to be a fan of Laura, but I really think she’s lost it since a couple of years ago. She really hates women. She says women deserve to be hit by their hubbies because they “provoke” it. Cheating is “provoked” by wives, too. If women only behaved like 1950’s t.v. housewives, she says in her book “Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands”, men wouldn’t “have to” cheat or “be made to” hit them.
In fact, women who don’t agree with her magical book should never get married, as they would be “terrible wives”.
Her fans say she’s all for personal accountability, but when it comes to husbands, all bets are off. All problems are caused by women.
This “Doctor” has serious issues.
March 12th, 2008 at 10:32 amSo, LostInTheConfusion, when your wife doesn’t put out, how much do you pay? Or, is it, how much does your horrible wife “force” poor you to pay? And is it safe or unsafe? Inquiring minds want to know.
March 12th, 2008 at 10:43 amOne more comment:
Darryl said, *Women have been doing the same thing, as well (incognito). *
How do you know cheating wives wear disguises?
March 12th, 2008 at 11:22 amSpitzer’s a hypocrite, but Dr. Laura is a bigger hypocrite.
Here’s her story:
http://www.nndb.com/people/427/000022361/
And here’s the pictures: (Warning – pictures of Dr. Laura with no clothes):
http://www.bartcop.com/mengidx.htm
March 12th, 2008 at 11:42 amI had heard about Laura’s affairs before. She slept her way to the top in the radio biz, and her current hubby was married when she began sleeping with him. I guess she doesn’t want to hold her hubby or herself accountable for their situation, so she rationalizes it with her kooky philosophy.
I also wonder if her hubby has smacked her before? I want to smack her sometimes, but I don’t think physical violence is right. It would explain her take on violence toward women, though.
As for the nude pix, not gonna click on that. The thought of Dr. Laura nude makes my stomach turn.
March 12th, 2008 at 11:58 amDr. Laura should do volunteer work at the Emperor’s Club to help rehab these poor sex-starved politicos.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:37 pmWhen is this boring hypocrite going to pour herself another cup of New Testament STFU and get back in the kitchen where she belongs heating up Phyllis Schlafly Homemade Pies in the microwave and huffing the nitrous oxide out of another can of whipped cream? What the hell’s the matter with her; can’t she see the phallus with the red neck tie wearing the pants in the family in those Rochart cards on her desk?
March 13th, 2008 at 7:25 pmDr. Laura, how backwards are you? Do you still believe that “refrigerator mothers” cause Autism? Please go back to school at an accredited institution. Spitzer’s wife is not to blame for his infidelity. IF, he was unhappy in their relationship, the onus is on him to discuss it with her. Paying for sex (and potentially exposing her to STDs) is not a mature decision. Have you considered a differential diagnosis of narcissistic personality disorder for Mr. Spitzer. Do yourself a favor “Dr. Laura” and retract your ignorant statement before you jeopardise your career even further.
March 24th, 2008 at 3:04 pmWow – I admit it – this is the first time I have visited a liberal blog. Trying to be open-minded and trying to learn to be well rounded, I landed here.
Here’s what I learned…..that I have never seen so many people use such potty mouths in my life. If this is what liberalism is about, then I will have to choose to abstain.
If “thinking progressively” means being angry, sarcastic, hateful, bitter and full of foul speech, then I have learned it is best for me to stay away from the likes of the people who visit here – because there is a very real threat of becoming like them….and I’d like to stay a nice person who thinks sensible and rational thoughts.
What a sad realization to see such a deterioration and degradation of the soul…
April 5th, 2008 at 1:33 pmDr. Laura really is one to talk about cheating. She knows all about infidelity. She’s been married twice, lived with at least two men, had an affair, her son was born out of wedlock, and she’s had naked pictures plastered over the internet.
She’s not able to make a religious commitment either – converted to Judaism in 1996, and then to Christianity in 2003.
I would NEVER take advice from this person.
May 13th, 2008 at 2:55 pm