KBR forces its towels on U.S. troops.
By on Mar 11th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
KBR forces its towels on U.S. troops.
In a hearing today on waste, fraud, and abuse in Iraq, Sen. Byron Dorgan (D-ND) said the defense contractor KBR, formerly of Halliburton, has been stamping its logo on towels given to U.S. troops. Dorgan said a contractor told him that he ordered plain white towels for troops, but the “superviser” said the towels must have the KBR logo on them — despite the cost to taxpayers:
He said the problem is, that will triple or quadruple the price. His superviser said, ‘doesn’t matter. This is a cost-plus contract. Taxpayers pay for that.’ So this is the towel the troops got, with KBR embroidered on it.
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Would someone in Congress just shut off their funding? Period. There must be at least one other company that sells effing towels???
March 11th, 2008 at 12:22 pmthe embroidery adds value.
March 11th, 2008 at 12:22 pmJesus H. Christ. This is blatant war profiteering.
Why does KBR hate America??
March 11th, 2008 at 12:23 pm“It’s not really Freedom unless we’re pimpin it out.”
March 11th, 2008 at 12:23 pm-KBR
What? No matching bathrobe?
March 11th, 2008 at 12:23 pmAren’t these the same guys giving the troops the foul water that is making them sick? It would be nice if they were half as particular about the water as they were about their freakin’ towels.
March 11th, 2008 at 12:24 pmKan’t
March 11th, 2008 at 12:24 pmBeat
Richard (Cheney)
Unfortunate artwork…
Kill
March 11th, 2008 at 12:24 pmBurn
Rape
Baghdad
Maybe we could use these towels to waterboard upper management at KBR to find out why we’re paying for the logo. I heard it’s not torture and it’s legal.
March 11th, 2008 at 12:25 pmPut the logo on the toilet paper.
March 11th, 2008 at 12:25 pmCan’t wait for the trolls to try and justify this monstrousity…..
March 11th, 2008 at 12:25 pmJesus H. Christ. This is blatant war profiteering.
Why does KBR hate America??
Comment by Leftside Annie — March 11, 2008 @ 12:23 pm
Right on, Annie. What the hell else is a “cost plus” contract, if not an invitation to loot the treasury?
But I disagree about KBR hating America. KBR looooooves America. Just like a rich kid loves his trust fund.
March 11th, 2008 at 12:27 pm“As a courtesy, every KBR towel comes pre-drenched in sweat!”
March 11th, 2008 at 12:28 pmOh well — if it’s only the TAXPAYERS paying for it, it must be OK.
Where are all the conservatives? Why aren’t they condemning this obvious boondoggle?
March 11th, 2008 at 12:30 pmYay!!! I am glad we now know about this. And the next government no-bid, cost-plus contract is awarded to……KBR!! What a surprise.
March 11th, 2008 at 12:31 pmGreat question missmolly. Where are the conservatives? Why aren’t they crying out at the blatant pork barrell runaway spending that KBR has been doing?
March 11th, 2008 at 12:32 pm“As a courtesy, every KBR towel comes pre-drenched in sweat!â€
Comment by McWars — March 11, 2008 @ 12:28 pm
Blood and tears to be supplied by user…
March 11th, 2008 at 12:33 pmTaxpayer money damn well better not be used to help people who can’t afford health care. Better to use taxpayer money for corporate logos so our troops can see they would be better off in the private army.
/frustrating snark off
March 11th, 2008 at 12:35 pmComment by missmolly — March 11, 2008 @ 12:30 pm
Yeah…conservatives storm into office with a “deep concern for the taxpayer.”
Yes, there’s concern anytime taxpayer dollars go toward paying for something less expensive and more cost effective, like education, health care and other pro-human initiatives.
Keep on the lookout, Republicans!
March 11th, 2008 at 12:35 pmMore WINGNUT WELFARE. The GOP dream for America.
March 11th, 2008 at 12:35 pmCut the funding NOW.
This is beyond ridiculous.
March 11th, 2008 at 12:37 pmCongress needs to refuse to fund the contractors. That will get our troops home very quickly.
Cost plus no bid contracts. The Bush Crime Family’s way of enriching their friends and family. Hopefully Obama will reverse this process. But, can’t you just hear the righties screaming if Obama were to come in and replace all the rightie contractors with lefty contractors? They would throw a royal hissy fit and complain about mismanagement.
What the right wing doesn’t really understand is that they have set the stage for a Democratic administration to pull all the same tricks they pulled. And they will not have a leg to stand on if they decide to complain.
I am confident, though, that an Obama administration will clean up this mess and restore honesty and dignity to our government. He will also restore the rule of law. If Hillary Rove Clinton were to be elected President, though, I can easily see her continue along the road that the Bush Crime Family has paved.
March 11th, 2008 at 12:38 pmHow many years can the Dems get away with, “Well, Bush did it too”?
March 11th, 2008 at 12:39 pmThe political argument of our continued stay in Iraq is not about Iraq, but about lucrative contracts. The players in Iraq have much to lose if we pull out.
March 11th, 2008 at 12:39 pmMoney for nothing.
March 11th, 2008 at 12:41 pmUltimately, Righties want to “privatize” the Armed Forces, so they can do as they please with no oversight or accountability (apparently that “personal responsibility” they harp on is for someone else). Then they can do an IPO, and gamble away our defense on wall street while pocketing even more cash than they already do.
March 11th, 2008 at 12:41 pmWhere are all the conservatives? Why aren’t they condemning this obvious boondoggle?
Comment by missmolly — March 11, 2008 @ 12:30 pm
I have a sense they’ll rediscover their outrage about “wasteful federal spending” sometime in late January.
March 11th, 2008 at 12:42 pmKBR throws in the towel…oh, wait, we paid dearly for it.
Kellog, Brown & Root = KBR, formerly a subsidiary of Halliburton.
How do we ‘up’ our profit margin? Hell, it’s easy.
-Cayman Island address allows us to avoid paying US taxes!
-Cost plus contracts allow us to adjust our income at anytime!
-Independent contractors instead of employee = Less taxes!
-No accountability. If investigated we stonewall, deny & blame.
-Non-American workers. (Cheap, cheap, cheap!)
-Patriotism. If anyone questions us, we call them AQ supporters.
-Close ties to the Administration = Cheney ‘R Us!
-Flag lapel pins. Mandatory. Everyone knows Patriots wear them.
Our plan is to eventually replace the US military in all foreign endeavors. We fool Congress into thinking it’s more economical to use us than the Army, while actually providing septic water & contaminated food to our troops…and then bill the Army twice. Brilliant, don’t you think.
Our Motto: Today the United States. Tomorrow the World!
March 11th, 2008 at 12:48 pmThis just makes me so sick and so bloody damned furious that I want to scream - or deck the very first Republican I see who tells me that our troops are “fighting for our freedom” in Iraq…
*Insert VERY long string of blistering invective here.*
March 11th, 2008 at 12:50 pm“There is nothing unconstitutional about this!”
March 11th, 2008 at 1:03 pm~GiGi
How many years can the Dems get away with, “Well, Bush did it too�
Comment by jb — March 11, 2008 @ 12:39 pm
Considering how many objectionable things Bush has done, Dems could get away with saying that for a long, long time.
However, I hope we don’t stoop to that. God and American voters willing, we will get some leaders who are BETTER than what we’ve been having to deal with. And if we ever find ourselves saying “Bush did it, too” we might want to stop and demand why our leaders are being like Bush.
This is something that the “Clinton did it, too” gang never fully grasped.
March 11th, 2008 at 1:05 pmGet ready for good_golly logic:
TP blog posters decry war profiteering
equals
Liberals hate our troops
March 11th, 2008 at 1:06 pmAh, Republican War Profiting at the expense of tax payers, who would have thought….this guy must know Five Deferments Dick personally.
Bush/Cheney
March 11th, 2008 at 1:08 pmHague Trials ‘09
Now this one I understand, the guy who owns the embroidery shop who is probably working for KBR probably sends this overseas to a sweat shop somewhere in the Abrahamoff land, and kicks back to KBR about a buck per towel.
Everybody makes money.
March 11th, 2008 at 1:08 pmThere is a solution that the Pentagon/Department of Defense could implement to avoid this, and that is in how they word their bid requests and contracts. Simply prohibit any advertising or logo placement of any contractor on the product or service being purchased.
But this will not happen as the Pentagon/Department of Defense are beholden to Halliburton, KBR, and whoever is the defense contractor. And, as the story illustrates, this war will always be as expensive as possible budget because it is a ‘cost-plus’ business venture authorized by a government who likes defense contractors.
Funny, isn’t it, that there is never enough government for hungry and/or sick kids - Americans by the way - but always enough money for embroidered towels?
March 11th, 2008 at 1:17 pm34 - fresh from the Marianas Islands, Tom DeLays fave vacation spot - a protectorate of the Right Wing where sweatshops and sex-slavery go hand-in-glove (and the NSA won’t catch you with a wiretap)
March 11th, 2008 at 1:18 pmMethinks the KBR logo should be applied to all toilet paper and diapers manufactured in the U.S. for the next hundred years, at KBR’s expense.
March 11th, 2008 at 1:19 pmThose of you who think the surge isn’t working are just not looking at Iraq from the point of view of a crooked businessman:
Mission WAS Accomplished. The mission was to provide a steady stream of unquestionable income with only a few hundred thousand (million) of other people’s loved ones having to die.
March 11th, 2008 at 1:25 pmJesus H. Christ. This is blatant war profiteering
Comment by Leftside Annie — March 11, 2008 @ 12:23 pm
TREASON
March 11th, 2008 at 1:28 pm……and noone can do a damn thing about it. and if you listen to both of the democrat candidates they both vow there undying support for israel…..and that is where it lies
March 11th, 2008 at 1:30 pmAs Sen. Byron Dorgan stated, this is a tiny little example. Add them all up and then what do you have? A huge glaring problem.
March 11th, 2008 at 1:30 pmOK, hand out the towels to the troops.
March 11th, 2008 at 1:31 pmThen, send everyone of the troops to any vacation spot of their choice and let them use that towel to lay out on a beach or to golf or whatever.
And send the “supervisors” as servants, caddies, chauffers, and pack mules to wait on the troops hand and foot for a month.
…….i guess we could if the majority of the american folks act as if this was vietnam and revolt against the government. and lets never forget….”for the people, by the people,” and hope all who is screaming on the pc is screaming in public about the zionist infiltration into the american government and the nazi style running of it.
March 11th, 2008 at 1:33 pmGood Morning poster’s, gee, you all are suprised.? Not…Before these rat basterd’s were installed bush and cheney were sporting polo shirt’s with embroidery logo’s on them done in Bangladesh….I had a screaming fit wrote all my representative’s a letter and yelled at any one who would listen, ofcourse we know they did not….I was working for a big embroidery house, running huge machine’s with computer’s….We were good at our job of creating and suppieing for well known corporation’s….Any number of U.S. businesses should of been picked instead of out of country…Well here we are, seven plus year’s later and I’m thinking who the hell did they get to supply these product’s….What country and who signed yet another home run for these traitor’s to sell us out….Just the tip of the iceberg folk’s….Shit it’s only Tuesday…….Blessings
March 11th, 2008 at 1:36 pmDorgan for Sec/Def, ‘09!
If you have time, read Senator Dorgan’s book, ‘Take this Job & Ship It’.
We need clarity and unbiased decisions right now. Mr. Dorgan is just the man that can do it. He’s an Obama supporter, ethical, smart and experienced.
March 11th, 2008 at 1:36 pmAs there is still (a limited amount of) money in our treasury, they still have work to do!
KBR: WE MUST DEPLETE THE US TREASURY!
Mission Accomplished!
March 11th, 2008 at 1:36 pmWorse, the towel looks like a frikkin DISH towel! Not even enough square inch-age to
March 11th, 2008 at 1:37 pm1. wipe all your pits after the weekly shower, or
2. wipe the puke off your face after drinking the KBR-supplied water
“As a courtesy, every KBR towel comes pre-drenched in sweat!â€
Comment by McWars — March 11, 2008 @ 12:28 pm
….sweat which KBR recovers and then recycles back to the troops as drinking water . . .
Just saying . . .
March 11th, 2008 at 1:42 pmComment by Zimzone — March 11, 2008 @ 1:36 pm
and listen very closely to his undying support for israel. that is the mass that is creating so many problems. that will also mean we will KEEP outsourcing our middle east policies to the zionists. i call bullshit.
March 11th, 2008 at 1:43 pmTreason, war profiteering.
March 11th, 2008 at 1:44 pmI wonder if the KBR name can be stamped on every coffin that leaves Iraq too?
March 11th, 2008 at 1:45 pmWhat’s next for the troops? A camo shirt that says “I was sent to Iraq and all I got was this lousy t-shirt”?
March 11th, 2008 at 1:45 pmThis scandal among many others is detailed in the DVD “War for Sale.”
March 11th, 2008 at 1:47 pmI haven’t reviewed that movie in nearly a year, but I think I should do so and those who haven’t seen it, should make it a point to do so.
I do appreciate the irony of this towel story coming out on what would have been Douglas Adams’ 56th birthday.
March 11th, 2008 at 1:49 pm#52 PLC,
March 11th, 2008 at 1:50 pmYour comment reminded me that contracts were given for polyester clothing for the soldiers - even though it was well-known that the fabrics were subject to melting.
So you get shot, and your shirt melts into your wound.
I do appreciate the irony of this towel story coming out on what would have been Douglas Adams’ 56th birthday.
Comment by toasterhead — March 11, 2008 @ 1:49 pm
Yes, but Mr. Adams would have brought his own towel and KBR would be very against that.
March 11th, 2008 at 1:53 pmThe time for Impeach, for Indict and Imprison is long over due… Democrats are the biggest disapointment of 2006/2007/2008… There is no other party, they are the same as the Republican party, without them, the war wouldn’t get this far… and the War Criminals in the White House wouldn’t have such a free ride! And the Telecom immunity either!!!! Shame! What a shame!
March 11th, 2008 at 1:54 pmHey, let’s give the troops little wooden outhouses, with GWB woodburned into the door, as a souvenir, too.
March 11th, 2008 at 1:54 pmI bet Bush and Chenney have pijamas with an embroidery prhase: “Mission Acomplished!”
March 11th, 2008 at 1:57 pmOkay…I understand the anger, and frankly I agree. This is beyond ridiculous. However, why is everyone that sits on the right thought to be in agreement with such outrageous behavior, or in support of blatant profiteering? I am conservative, and a Christian (of my God, did she say that out loud?) - please do not put all eggs in one basket. Comment on the ridiculous and leave the left-wing/right-wing comments to yourselves - please!
March 11th, 2008 at 1:58 pmYes, but Mr. Adams would have brought his own towel and KBR would be very against that.
Comment by belac — March 11, 2008 @ 1:53 pm
Ah, true. He was a hoopy frood indeed.
March 11th, 2008 at 1:58 pm“Mission Acomplished!â€
I proudly display a bumper sticker with a picture of Bush, reading “Missin’ a Conscience”
March 11th, 2008 at 1:59 pmComment by sacopenapa — March 11, 2008 @ 1:54 pm
thank you, thank you, thank you. it’s two crime parties fighting it out to “own” the turf.
im still searching this guy out but nader is looking cleaner than any of the candidates so far.
March 11th, 2008 at 1:59 pmbelac, Toasterhead,
March 11th, 2008 at 2:02 pmJust saw the movie for the 1st time…didn’t do justice to the book, but then few movies do.
LOL
March 11th, 2008 at 2:04 pmAh, true. He was a hoopy frood indeed.
Comment by toasterhead — March 11, 2008 @ 1:58 pm
…and sorely missed, we need a man with THE ANSWER, now more than ever.
March 11th, 2008 at 2:04 pmJust saw the movie for the 1st time…didn’t do justice to the book, but then few movies do.
Comment by Zimzone — March 11, 2008 @ 2:02 pm
and Zaphod as Bush was a little too close to home for me.
March 11th, 2008 at 2:08 pmKBR accomplishes two goals doing this:
1) being payed a lot more for simple towels.
2) an undercover (?) PR campaing to project its message through troops, thus increasing its recruitment of soldiers who end their contract with the military.
They are simply putting benefits before patriotism.
March 11th, 2008 at 2:46 pmOkay…I understand the anger, and frankly I agree. This is beyond ridiculous. However, why is everyone that sits on the right thought to be in agreement with such outrageous behavior, or in support of blatant profiteering? I am conservative, and a Christian (of my God, did she say that out loud?) - please do not put all eggs in one basket. Comment on the ridiculous and leave the left-wing/right-wing comments to yourselves - please!
Comment by katecarr — March 11, 2008 @ 1:58 pm
Obviously, you’re a newbie here. The reason for the “everyone that sits on the right” is “in agreement with such outrageous behavior” is because the overwhelming majority of “conservatives” are such Bush/Cheney/FauxNews sycophants who don’t know what REAL conservative values are.
March 11th, 2008 at 2:52 pmThey subscribe to the general principle of IOKIYAR (that’s “It’s OK If You’re A Republican”) to “defend” any outrages perpetrated by neocons. These are people who quickly jump on ANY outrageous statement by a single left-leaning person as representing the whole of the leftist/progressive spectrum (see Ward Churchill) yet ANY outrageous statement by a right-winger is played off as merely humorous or not indicative of anyone other than the speaker (see Ann Coulter).
60 - Katecarr - It’s far too late for that.
If you are STILL a Republican - after 7 years of the absolutely gut-wrenching evil that is the Bush administration — then you belong in hell alongside all of them, because your silence in the face of such evil means that you are complicit.
You’ll get NO quarter from me.
March 11th, 2008 at 2:57 pm60 - p.s. Katecarr - if you are STILL a Republican - by virtue of that fact, you simply CANNOT be a Christian. Period.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:01 pmkatecarr; if you are a repug, this is NOT the place for you. please go to redstate and stay there.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:37 pmWell there’s a realy easy cure for things like this, write a better Statement of Work. If you’re going to issue a cost plus contract to a company that is out to pilfer and loot then you get very serious about the contract wording. Instead of writing, “Company will provide two clean towels per soldier per day”, you write, “Company will provide two plain white towels without any permanent or temporary markings per soldier per day. The towel will be 12″x36″ and have a thread count (if that is a way of rating towels) of 360. Towels will be replaced with new unlaundered towels after one month of service. For the laundry requirements of the towels please see section 8-A-3(a)”.
If they insist on exploiting every gray area then you revise the contract wording to put a stop to it. If they insist on being vague in their replies to your inquiries into poor performance then you put in very tough acceptance terms so they have to justify each every cent they invoice you.
The problem is that under Bush they have cut the number of Contracting professionals so they just don’t have time to write good contracts. They don’t have Administrative Contracting Officers whose sole jobs are to provide oversight into the performance of the contracts. Instead they push this task onto Contracting Officers Technical Representatives (COTR’s) who while they have technical knowledge they don’t have intricate knowledge of the contract or the Federal Acquisition Regulations (FAR).
Until the government gets serious about having significant numbers of Contracting Officers on staff (with the experience and training) you’ll have companies that take the government to the cleaners. Of course BushCo knows that and that’s why they’ve cut the number of Contracting Officers and Contract Auditors. Far easier for Bush’s cronies to pillage the Treasury if no one is watching.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:51 pmI hope every time our troops use these towels, they see the KBR logo and remember all the corruption this dirty Bushco admin has done for/to them.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:53 pmComment on the ridiculous and leave the left-wing/right-wing comments to yourselves - please!
Comment by katecarr — March 11, 2008 @ 1:58 pm
NO! I’ve had my patriotism, my faith, my fiscal responsibility, and my morality questioned too many times by the “moral majority” right-wingers. I’m tired of not fighting back. I’m tired of being an easy-going liberal whose tolerance has been used an excuse by others to discount and belittle. You Republicanics, especially the neocons, OWN the problems like KBR. It’s time you start taking responsibility for them, instead of just talking about how people (apparently the “other” people) should be responsible for themselves.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:55 pmWhy not just identify the person that signed off on the decision to embroider the towels in the first place? Bring that person in front of Congress and let him/her justify the resaon behind KBR’s intials on the towels!
March 11th, 2008 at 5:43 pmUntil you put pressure, and start ridiculding the little people on TV, nothing is going to change, however the little ones will trade up, to get the spotlight of them!
KBR forces its towels on U.S. troops.
They have to bleed every last cent out of America, while they move offshore to dodge paying taxes, oversight and the law.
They obvious don’t give a rat’s ass about our country.
March 11th, 2008 at 6:29 pmWhy do Americans allow this to happen?
The parasites are in the process of stripping America’s wealth and they will eventually leave an empty shell behind…but by that time the thieving traitors will probably be in Dubai.
Osama Bin-Laden got exactly what he wanted.
KBR’s (and other contractors’) profits were the prime reason for the war, and for the continuing occupation. And, since they are basically a Cayman Island Corporation, now, they can’t really be considered disloyal to THEIR country.
March 11th, 2008 at 6:40 pmAs Sen. Byron Dorgan stated, this is a tiny little example. Add them all up and then what do you have? A huge glaring problem.
Comment by Roket — March 11, 2008 @ 1:30 pm
Yeah a huge glaring problem as in a cost that will be in the trillions when interest payments, war vet’s future health care costs and damage to the economy which is causing the dollar to devalue and the price of oil to skyrocket.
We should start investigating and prosecuting war profiteers,
March 11th, 2008 at 7:08 pmstarting with Dick “2001 secret energy meeting” Cheney and working our way down.
DON’T FORGET KUWAIT & GULF LINK TRANSPORT! (KGLT) BUILDING A $750 MILLION DOLLAR EMBASSY IN IRAQ!!
Kuwait Contractor Fights $4.9 Million Ga. Judgment on Jurisdictional Grounds
Company files motion to vacate Atlanta federal judge’s decision in wrongful
death suit, which may be one of first impression
R. Robin McDonald
Fulton County Daily Report
February 25, 2008
The Army wants to know whether one of its largest contractors in the Middle
East intends to satisfy a $4.9 million judgment levied by a federal judge in
Atlanta.
How the Kuwait & Gulf Link Transport Co. chooses to address the Army’s concerns could place at risk at least $100 million a
year in contracts to truck supplies for the U.S. military in Iraq.
The judgment at issue was handed down by U.S. District Judge William S.
Duffey Jr. in a wrongful death suit brought against the company by the family of
Lt. Col. Dominic R. “Rocky” Baragona. He was killed in a 2003 accident in Iraq
when his vehicle was hit by a KGL truck.
The company did not defend itself before Duffey but belatedly is fighting
back. KGL counsel in Atlanta and Washington on Feb. 15 filed a motion to vacate
Duffey’s judgment, asserting that the judge has no jurisdiction in the case.
In a letter responding to the Army’s inquiries, KGL’s assistant managing
director declared the ruling to be void.
“For the court to require the defendant to go to Georgia to defend itself
would be offensive to the fundamental notion of fair play and substantial
justice,” wrote KGL’s assistant managing director, Yaqoub Abdullah Al Wazzan.
KGL’s letter and motion to vacate has prompted plaintiffs’ counsel, Washington
attorney Steven R. Perles, to seek an order requiring KGL to post a bond in the
amount of the judgment plus post-judgment interest. Accusing KGL of a “callous
disregard” for the U.S. court system, Perles expressed to Army procurement fraud
personnel, “the Baragonas’ continuing belief that KGL will not honor the final
judgment of the U.S. District Court” if its motion to vacate is denied.
http://www.law.com/ jsp/ article.jsp?id=1203677143074
… First Kuwaiti is one of the biggest contractors in the Middle East and the
main contractor on the troubled 21-building embassy project, which will cost
$600 million to build, making it the most expensive diplomatic quarters in U.S.
history. The company has already received nearly $400 million for the embassy
project, according to contracting records reviewed by NBC News. It has also
been awarded more than a billion dollars in other contracts from the U.S. Army,
the Army Corps of Engineers and Halliburton, which hired it as a subcontractor on other projects.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19214872/
AND DON’T FORGET THAT
Kellogg Brown & Root, the nation’s top Iraq war contractor and until last
year a subsidiary of Halliburton Corp., has avoided paying hundreds of millions
of dollars in federal Medicare and Social Security taxes by hiring workers
through shell companies based in this tropical tax haven.
More than 21,000 people working for KBR in Iraq - including about 10,500
Americans - are listed as employees of two companies that exist in a computer
file on the fourth floor of a building on a palm-studded boulevard here in the
Caribbean. Neither company has an office or phone number in the Cayman Islands.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ 2008/ 03/ 06/ top-iraq-contractor-skirt_n_90205.html
March 11th, 2008 at 8:50 pmAnyone want to take a bet these towels were embroidered in China?
March 11th, 2008 at 11:15 pmAnyone want to take a bet these towels were embroidered in China?
Comment by b40 — March 11, 2008 @ 11:15 pm
My bet is on Saipan
March 12th, 2008 at 3:58 am