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Asked about Adm. William Fallon’s resignation today as Centcom commander, Brookings analyst Michael O’Hanlon initially replied, “I can’t clearly see what the reason would be for why he resigned.” O’Hanlon then, however, put forth the possibility that the “success” his good buddy Gen. David Petraeus has had in Iraq may have “overshadow[ed]” Fallon’s “ability to be effective in the job.”

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27 Responses to “O’Hanlon: Petraeus’s ’success’ may have outshone Fallon.”


  1. houtum Says:

    Agreed ugh….


  2. DieNowForPeace Says:

    “Asked today about…”

    My kids Ant Farm ants arrived today. Maybe we should ask them (the ants) what they think?


  3. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Why are people asking this idiot about ANYTHING!?

    Comment by hil_1 — March 11, 2008 @ 6:18 pm

    Ssame reason we ask the trolls about stuff. Just because their struggles to answer are so amusing.


  4. gummitch Says:

    My kids Ant Farm ants arrived today. Maybe we should ask them (the ants) what they think?

    Comment by DieNowForPeace — March 11, 2008 @ 6:20 pm

    If they walk left, it’s Yes. If they walk right, they’re probably going to be killed by terrorists.


  5. zuch Says:

    More likely it was Fallon said a few things that Dubya didn’t like, and was told that his career has lost a few possible advancement pathways….

    Cheers,


  6. tombaker Says:

    I heard that, thanks to betrayus and the surge, things are SO GOOD in Baghdad, you can see the sewage from space!! Now, that’s a shining success for sure, right Mr. Golly & co.!!!

    don’t look for satellite images of Baghdad after dark though, because they still don’t have full-time electricity like they did before we delivered the freedom.


  7. Above the Clouds Says:

    I don’t know about the rest of you, but I am getting sick of seeing fully armed and armored US soldiers kicking in Iraqi doors while hearing from the White House how “good things are in Iraq since the surge.” If things are going so well, can we see the video footage of things going well? Or ANY real proof (other than Hannity’s word) that the surge has made any difference.


  8. Fred Says:

    I don’t know about the rest of you, but I am getting sick of seeing fully armed and armored US soldiers kicking in Iraqi doors while hearing from the White House how “good things are in Iraq since the surge.” If things are going so well, can we see the video footage of things going well? Or ANY real proof (other than Hannity’s word) that the surge has made any difference.

    Comment by Above the Clouds

    We now have our own West Bank


  9. Marie Says:

    O’Hanlon is hitting the Irish ale too soon — he makes these inane comments and he obviously doesn’t have a clue, but he does have an opinion.
    Why anyone asks him anything or listens to him - is beyond me.


  10. tombaker Says:

    Our own West Bank where we have to pay maintenance money to thugs to create the appearance of progress.

    weak - to call the whole thing a miserable failure would be a gross overestimation.


  11. 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda Says:

    Iraqi Refugees See No Reason, or Hope, For Return

    DAMASCUS - More Iraqis continue to flee their country than the numbers returning, despite official claims to the contrary. Thousands fleeing say security is as bad as ever, and that to return would be to accept death.

    “Return to Iraq?” asks 35-year-old Ahmed Alwan, an Iraqi engineer now working at a restaurant in Damascus. “There is no Iraq to return to, my friend. Iraq only exists in our dreams and memories.”

    …Most, like Alwan, do not intend to return. “I shall never return to Iraq until the last American soldier and Iranian mullah leaves,” Alwan says. “It is their country now, not ours. The only thing that might take me back is when I decide to fight for Iraq’s real liberty.”

    …Many Iraqis in Syria say they will not return for fear of detention.
    “They (U.S. military) say Fallujah is safe now while over 800 men are detained there under the worst conditions,” 25-year-old Omar, whose name is on a list of wanted persons by the local police, told IPS. “I am wanted by Fallujah police just because I helped some foreign journalists who visited the city to cover the American crime in 2004…

    Iraqis commonly refer to Iraqis who collaborate with occupation forces as “tails of the Americans.” For Iraqis who do return home, the reasons usually have little to do with any perception that things are improving. “If you do not mention my name and my company, I will tell you all about Iraqis returning home,” a passenger transport company manager in Damascus told IPS. “People just move back and forth to check their property, cash their pensions and salaries and for other necessities, but the media make it look like people returning home.”

    …Another UN survey of Iraqis returning to their country found that “46 percent were leaving Syria because they could not afford to stay, 25 percent said they fell victim to a stricter Syrian visa policy; and only 14 percent said they were returning because they had heard about improved security.”

    Others do not return for financial reasons….“It is cheaper here than in Iraq,” Hanan Jabbar, a 38-year-old housewife who fled to Syria five months ago told IPS. “A litre of kerosene costs a dollar back home, while it’s 10 cents here. That is just one example for how impossible life now is in Iraq. My kids go to school safely and play like other children now without me worrying to death about them. God bless Syria and Jordan for having us, and God damn America and all its allies for doing all this to us.”…

    http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/03/03/7421/


  12. Chocolate Jesus Says:

    >before we delivered freedom.

    high quality, depeleted uranium freedom, nonetheless

    iraqi refugee crisis worsening..

    http://news.yahoo.com/ s/ afp/ 20080311/ wl_mideast_afp/ usiraqrefugees_080311214451;_ylt=AuHps095CCezIt4t8cp25GoUewgF


  13. Marie Says:

    The Iraqi government is operating at a surplus these days — isn’t that nice?
    We, the occupying force, are supplying and paying for everything — American taxpayers.


  14. 5th Estate Says:

    Para-quote: “…the possibility that the “success” his good buddy Gen. David Petraeus has had in Iraq may have overshadowed Fallon’s “ability to be effective in the job.”

    Given that Fallon is an Admiral and Iraq has a 15-mile coastline that marks the end of waters mostly controlled by Iran and Saudi Arabia, I;m pretty sure Fallon’s job, as imagined by the Bush adminsitration, was to act quite literally like afish out of water.

    Unfortunately Fallon has proven to be not so much a fish as an amphibian–adaptable and evolved with a keen sense for the prservation of his species rather than himself alone.

    I recall someone, somewhere ( TP or C&: or some such smart blog) predicting perhaps a month ago his likely removal from command.

    Imagine my yawn that this prediction has now come true!

    Fallon was pretty low-profile, except when it came to talk of attacking Iran, when he was all like “No WAY” and “As If” and “that’s sooo retarded” and such. So now he’s NPLU fer sher and totally banished we can all look forward to having a wicked party in Iran. Yay!


  15. McWars Says:

    Let me change that my prediction on the previous thread: Petraeus is heading to CentCom.


  16. robbez_92107 Says:

    Why is this clown labeled a “war critic from the liberal-leaning Brookings Institute?”
    He’s anything but liberal and anything but a war critic.


  17. Lt. Colonel Fred Seamon Says:

    Hanlon once again shows abysmal knowledge of the military. Good commanders, and Fallon is an exceptionally good one, want their subordinates to succeed. If anything, it makes them look good.


  18. Doc Rock Says:

    Who hired O’Hanlon? Who is he related to.


  19. zuch Says:

    #17 robbez_92107:

    Why is this clown labeled a “war critic from the liberal-leaning Brookings Institute?”
    He’s anything but liberal and anything but a war critic.

    Because they like to lie about that kind of crap to pretend that the viewpoint is somehow mainstream or bipartisan. Glenn Greenwald has exploded the myth of O’Hanlon’s criticism of the war and his “liberal-leaning affiliations” (here and here and here … well, you get the idea….)

    Cheers,


  20. questioneverything Says:

    Don’t know who O’Hanlon is and don’t care. The truth is Fallon was fired because McSame has pledged to attack Iran and Fallon was in the way. Could somebody please ask the candidates about this? Oh, I doubt it.


  21. shaun Says:

    He’s anything but liberal and anything but a war critic.

    Comment by robbez_92107 — March 11, 2008 @ 7:14 pm

    he’s not much of anything and wrong on just about everything - along with kristol and bolton - why do these people get paid at all? - it is mystifying.


  22. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    He’s anything but liberal and anything but a war critic.

    Comment by robbez_92107 — March 11, 2008 @ 7:14 pm

    Not to mention anything but an expert, a consultant, or a journalist…


  23. MapleStreet Says:

    Sorry liberals, but the man is absolutely correct. Petraeus was 25% effective and this outshone Fallon.

    At least, that’s the way I take it.


  24. Uranus Says:

    My favorite blog topic, for which I broke sabbatical today in my usual gratuitous vulgarity. Good luck my friends.


  25. williamf Says:

    Fallon is an impressive leader. Folks of Ilk try to work within an environment like that of the Bush Organized Crime Family but sooner find out that they are working for liars, thieves and torture friendly fascists. Fallon has more sense, courage, and knowledge on the tip of his little finger than Bush could ever hope to have. The reason Fallon resigned was self-respect and the fact I hope, that he will speak the gospel of truth about the shit that Bush and Cheney are going to try to pull in regard to Iran. The alleged surge O’hanlan is giving Betrayus credit for is like a thumb in the dike, you absolutely cannot keep the thumb in forever. As it is 8 of our troops died in the last two days. O’Hanlon, why don’t you gather up your courage and go and tell the families of these troops how the surge worked. Fallon called Betrayus a kiss and a chickenshit and that’s the only reason Betrayus is still on board.


  26. HighPlainsJoker Says:

    What Fallon has said, and I paraphrase, was to the effect that in his job a senior military diplomat in the region, he was trying to assuage the fears of Arab nations, all fearing that a conflagration would come from an attack on Iran. Eqypt, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Jordan were particularly troubled by the possibility. What Bush cannot seem to abide is anyone who disagrees with him, even in this case, it would have accomplished the immediate problem of lowering the diplomatic temperature in the Middle East, whether the Bush/Cheney attack goes forward or not. As to his personal capabilities and relationship of an Admiral to the military situation in the Mid-East, people who know him thought him extremely intelligent, talented, and an outstanding diplomat. At his level, not being an infantry general made no difference at all. Remember, he had Gen P. there on the ground, now didn’t he?


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