House Republicans are so intent on forcing through the Senate-approved surveillance bill “that they’ve tried to attach it to some strange vehicles,” including “an unrelated mental health parity bill (HR 1424).” Attempting to justify this move, Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-MI) was forced to stretch logic:
This bill is intended to ensure the mental health of Americans; yet, no American’s health can be fully secured if they are under attack by a terrorist or facing the potential threat of terrorist attack.
hmmm... if this bill is about the mental health of Americans... shouldn't Impeachment be attached to it too?
March 12th, 2008 at 9:48 amOh,the irony of a loony like Hokstra(sp) talking about mental health.
March 12th, 2008 at 9:48 amHe's right in a way, the trolls here are always shitting their pants.take care tony and guide dog lido
I'm ashamed that horseshit Hoesktra is from Michigan, but thankfully, he does not represent my district. He is an awful embarrassment to my state.
March 12th, 2008 at 9:48 amYes, we should pass good legislation withou-
LOOK, A BIG BEAR COMING TO KILL US AND FEED ON OUR CHILDREN!!
RUUUUUUN!!!!!!!
March 12th, 2008 at 9:48 amWhoa... now there are 2 subjects Hoekstra's unqualified to talk about... mental health and national security.
Perhaps he should spell his name "Hoaxstra"...
March 12th, 2008 at 9:49 amThis bill is intended to ensure the mental health of Americans; yet, no American’s health can be fully secured if they are under attack by a terrorist or facing the potential threat of terrorist attack.
But it's okay to torture people because it doesn't affect their mental health right? RIGHT?
Man these people will try anything.
March 12th, 2008 at 9:49 amMy own mental health has been stretched to the limit.
I've had it with these dogs.
We had a local election here yesterday in a city of 90K people and less than 5K voted.
Americans deserve everything they have coming to them.
March 12th, 2008 at 9:50 amObviously, the PAA is a mental health issue. I mean, no one sane enough would have written down such an outrageous bill.
March 12th, 2008 at 9:50 amIs it an Islamic bear, DieNow? A Russian bear? A Chicago bear?
Saaaay... where's Ditka?
March 12th, 2008 at 9:50 amThat's kind of like saying "I can't do my job unless I know my WoW character is healthy."
March 12th, 2008 at 9:51 amAmericans deserve everything they have coming to them.
Comment by civil behavior — March 12, 2008 @ 9:50 am
Americans "WHO DON'T VOTE" deserve everything they have coming to them.
March 12th, 2008 at 9:51 amIs it an Islamic bear, DieNow? A Russian bear? A Chicago bear?
I believe it's a grizzly who's pissed they cut funding for their research.
March 12th, 2008 at 9:52 amThis makes about as much sense as attaching a minimum wage bill -- because if you are the victim of a terrorist attack, you can't work.
March 12th, 2008 at 9:52 amTROS; it might be the BARE necessities.
snark, snark.
March 12th, 2008 at 9:52 amMakes you wonder about how hard the heads of the folks who vote guys like Hoekstra into office may be! Perhaps we can adapt Mohs hardness scale to check? It probably would just scratch the surface of the issue though.
March 12th, 2008 at 9:59 amWe've been under attack from terrorists continually for the last seven years. Our government is constantly trying to terrorize us into acquiescence. Thus far, they have succeeded.
Of course, a little evesdropping here and blackmail there doesn't hurt, either. Just ask Pelosi and Reid. We are already learning about Spitzer.
March 12th, 2008 at 10:00 amRepublic,
In case you hadn't noticed most Americans don't vote.
If 5% of the people get out to vote and 3 % of them represent big business then all Americans deserve everything they have coming to them and guaranteed........it's coming.
No one is going to stop this freight train now.
March 12th, 2008 at 10:00 amI believe it’s a grizzly who’s pissed they cut funding for their research.
Comment by DieNowForPeace — March 12, 2008 @ 9:52 am
Aw, geez... we really are in trouble then.
March 12th, 2008 at 10:00 amspeaking of mental health (he-hum) Hoekstra is a candidate for a complete psychiatric evaluation with this hypothesis. He can take the Chimp and Deadeye with him,too. Both have mental health issues and are on serious meds.
Isn't it time to check this president's meds? After his tap dance and "pretty face" comment, I'd say that his Prozac needs serious adjustment down.
March 12th, 2008 at 10:01 amIs it an Islamic bear, DieNow? A Russian bear? A Chicago bear?
I believe it’s a grizzly who’s pissed they cut funding for their research.
Comment by DieNowForPeace
We know it can't be a polar bear, most of them are drowning
March 12th, 2008 at 10:02 amcivil behavior: What stats are you quoting or pulling out of thin air? Obviously, you haven't been watching the unprecedented numbers coming out to vote for Obama? Are you living in a vacuum?
March 12th, 2008 at 10:03 amNo one is going to stop this freight train now.
Comment by civil behavior — March 12, 2008 @ 10:00 am
I have indeed noticed. What did my comment say?
"Those that don't vote"... I've skipped 2 small local elections since the late 70's. Other than that, I ALWAYS vote. Not only do I vote, I actually take the time to read those little booklets they send in the mail, local, state and Federal. I read them MORE than once, usually about 3 times.
As I like to say, "As long as I have the right, at least I'm going to throw my brick!"
March 12th, 2008 at 10:04 amAre you living in a vacuum?
Comment by OsirisHusseinOsiris — March 12, 2008 @ 10:03 am
A Red state?
March 12th, 2008 at 10:04 amRepublicans are Dumb.
March 12th, 2008 at 10:04 amI don't understand the claim regarding Americans fearing terrorists. A person is much more likely to die in an automobile accident in this country than to be killed by terrorists.
Knowing that, we don't worry ourselves silly thinking about how bad cars are and how we are going to stop them. The war on terror doesn't exist. The war *of* terror does.
March 12th, 2008 at 10:05 amComment by missmolly — March 12, 2008 @ 9:52 am
Aw geez, mismolly... don't give these *sshats any more "good ideas".
March 12th, 2008 at 10:06 amThe war *of* terror does.
Comment by wmhogg — March 12, 2008 @ 10:05 am
"Gee..."
**ironic pause... clearing of the throat**
"Ya think???????"
March 12th, 2008 at 10:07 amPerhaps we can adapt Mohs hardness scale to check? It probably would just scratch the surface of the issue though.
Comment by Doc Rock — March 12, 2008 @ 9:59 am
Mohs harness scale?
What about Larry and Curly, too?
March 12th, 2008 at 10:09 amTROS; it might be the BARE necessities.
snark, snark.
Comment by Uncle Ho — March 12, 2008 @ 9:52 am
**snort... giggle...**
March 12th, 2008 at 10:10 amReich-wingers, the party of terror.
March 12th, 2008 at 10:11 amPerhaps we can adapt Mohs hardness scale to check? It probably would just scratch the surface of the issue though.
Comment by Doc Rock — March 12, 2008 @ 9:59 am
What are you talcing about? I diamond an explanation!
March 12th, 2008 at 10:19 amTerrorism only works on the terrified.
March 12th, 2008 at 10:19 amlol
March 12th, 2008 at 10:23 amhoekstra is a kook.
Michigan folks don't act like that.
Dude...can I get some of what he is smoking.....does he even have a GED?
March 12th, 2008 at 10:24 amI diamond an explanation!
Comment by toasterhead — March 12, 2008 @ 10:19 am
It would be gneiss to know. Marble he'll enlighten us.
March 12th, 2008 at 10:28 amIt would be gneiss to know. Marble he’ll enlighten us.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — March 12, 2008 @ 10:28 am
Or he's just talking schist again...
March 12th, 2008 at 10:29 amHeh. Hoekstra's gonna need a dumptruck to move THAT load of bullshit.
March 12th, 2008 at 10:44 amI'm from west central MI and when Camp and Hoax-tra put their collective heads together, they make a complete ass out of themselves. Hoax-tra and in-sanatorum of PA did the some when they finally found those WMDs.(W's Maniacal Defense)
March 12th, 2008 at 10:50 amUS Soldiers' mental health is at risk from an illegal invasion, lack of medical follow up or access and using them as pawns in Bush's War of Terror.
March 12th, 2008 at 10:51 amMichigan folk don't act like that.
well, at least SOME of us Michigan folk don't. :-)
March 12th, 2008 at 10:52 amShale I say Hoekstra is taking the idiocy of the electorate for granite?
March 12th, 2008 at 10:54 amOf course giving companies immunity for spying on citizens means the mentally ill will sleep better at night. Those with paranoia will have the added assurance of knowing that someone is truly spying on them.
March 12th, 2008 at 11:00 amComment by Nevar — March 12, 2008 @ 10:54 am
Indeed... playing to the rube-ies.
Dosh garnet, I wish he'd stop that.
March 12th, 2008 at 11:00 amMichigan folk don’t act like that.
well, at least SOME of us Michigan folk don’t. :-)
Comment by Uncle Ho
Just the ones who retired from their management level jobs with the Big 3 on fat pensions, bought up all the Great Lakes shoreline at $2,000.00 per linear foot, put up gates and fences to keep the rest of us out, and now quiver in their $998,000.00 beach houses for fear a terrorist submarine is going to surface and blow out their picture windows.
March 12th, 2008 at 11:03 amAmericans “WHO DON’T VOTE†deserve everything they have coming to them.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
This is one of my pet peeves. I was listening the other day to a group of people I work with gripe about the state of our government. I casually asked them, "how many of you voted in the last election" and two out of five raised their hands. I said "well, then, the two of you can continue this conversation, the rest of you have no right to participate. If you don't vote, you have no right to bitch about what is happening in our government".
March 12th, 2008 at 11:11 amAre there dumber or stupiser Representatives than Hoekstra and Burton. They must have attended the same brainwashing school to dumb down their talk to constituents. And they keep getting elected. What does that say for their districts? They both can come up with stupid sh*t!
March 12th, 2008 at 11:13 am"for fear a terrorist submarine is going to surface and blow out their picture windows."
Comment by Nevar — March 12, 2008 @ 11:03 am
Damn those Canucks, and their tasty bacon... and maple syrup...
Hmmm... time fer breakfast...
March 12th, 2008 at 11:14 amThis is a good example of why we need to pass legislation saying that a bill can only contain a single issue. It will make their work a little harder because they will need to pass more bills. But it will do away with this kind of chicanery. I imagine that the Democrats have a couple of legislative aides who work full time reading all bills submitted in it's entirety to make sure that the Republicans aren't trying to slip a poison pill into the legislation.
March 12th, 2008 at 11:14 amto make sure that the Republicans aren’t trying to slip a poison pill into the legislation.
Comment by Bilbo Hussein Baggins — March 12, 2008 @ 11:14 am
I thought we had already had a couple of instances where they just flat out slipped crap into bills in the middle of the night, then claimed the next day they didn't know how it got there.
March 12th, 2008 at 11:16 amIf Hoekstra -- or indeed, most other Congressciritters, Republican and Democrat alike -- truly cared about the mental health of Americans, he (and they) should have been doing more to keep President Bush in check and in his proper place as outlined by the Constitution. At least in my opinion, Bush himself has already done a great deal of damage to American morale and mental health -- yet they've done precious little to stop him.
March 12th, 2008 at 11:21 amWould you buy a cocktail dress at your hardware store?
Do you buy paint at Macy's?
March 12th, 2008 at 11:21 amHmmm… time fer breakfast…
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Yep. Pass me some of that goose, eh?
March 12th, 2008 at 11:29 amSome posters today appear Stoned...are they from Ruby Ridge?
March 12th, 2008 at 11:30 amOMG, I just agreed with GiGi!
March 12th, 2008 at 11:31 amare they from Ruby Ridge?
Comment by Zimzone
Silicon Valley.... it's the water, you know..........
March 12th, 2008 at 11:33 amAt least he can't run for president.
March 12th, 2008 at 11:34 amHoekstra and Blackwater Billionaire Erik Prince are both from Holland, Mich.
Something in the water, perhaps?
OMG, I just agreed with GiGi!
Comment by Zimzone — March 12, 2008 @ 11:31 am
It's too early in the day for drinking, Zimzone.
March 12th, 2008 at 11:45 amGood lord, these people are stooping to new lows to scare americans. This is just shameful. And for those brain-dead enough to fall for it, you deserve what you get.
March 12th, 2008 at 11:49 amSo the terror warnings put on teevee by the DHS and media are affecting Americans health?
That crisis management by politicians is dangerous to American health?
Hoekstra: There's No Point to Being in Iraq, but we Should Stay Anyway.
Theres no point, but Im going to say it anyway, Hoekstra?
March 12th, 2008 at 12:22 pmHoekstra is the nut!
Tell Hoekstra that Bush, Bush's war, the neocons, Mukasey, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Feith, Condi and all of the corrupt members (that's all of them) of the GOP are driving us nuts.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:53 pmThis is a good example of why we need to pass legislation saying that a bill can only contain a single issue. It will make their work a little harder because they will need to pass more bills. But it will do away with this kind of chicanery. I imagine that the Democrats have a couple of legislative aides who work full time reading all bills submitted in it’s entirety to make sure that the Republicans aren’t trying to slip a poison pill into the legislation.
Comment by Bilbo Hussein Baggins — March 12, 2008 @ 11:14 am
Yes, this inappropriate use of riders has been practiced by both parties for too long and should be eliminated.
upright hussein left
March 12th, 2008 at 1:06 pmWhy do you think they're called wingnuts?
March 12th, 2008 at 1:16 pmThis bill is intended to ensure the mental health of Americans; yet, no American’s health can be fully secured if they are under attack by a terrorist or facing the potential threat of terrorist attack.
March 12th, 2008 at 2:27 pmI want to smoke what these people smoke!!!!!
Jebus! These fu(kers are really desparate!
I wonder why?
~LividHusseinLib
March 12th, 2008 at 2:38 pmJust the ones who retired from their management level jobs with the Big 3 on fat pensions, bought up all the Great Lakes shoreline at $2,000.00 per linear foot, put up gates and fences to keep the rest of us out, and now quiver in their $998,000.00 beach houses for fear a terrorist submarine is going to surface and blow out their picture windows.
Comment by Nevar — March 12, 2008 @ 11:03 am
certainly some of those buying-up shoreline, particularly Lk Mich shoreline, are Big 3 retirees, but the vast majority are rich retirees from chicago. not just retirees. many are just filthy rich and have built their million+ dollar summer "cottages" on the dunes overlooking the lake. michigan's western shoreline has become a chicago suburb. it's a real shame!
March 12th, 2008 at 2:48 pmthe bastards!
Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-MI) is one of the most useless unAmericans still living in this country!!!
March 12th, 2008 at 7:34 pmI don't think Hoekstra has a full understanding of the specific pathology involved....
Cheers,
March 12th, 2008 at 9:50 pm