Comments on: Right Wing Jubilant Over Fallon’s Resignation: It’s ‘Good News’ http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:17:07 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: christopher wiwi http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/comment-page-5/#comment-4303252 christopher wiwi Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:02:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/#comment-4303252 Only the warmongering Neo-cons would be clapping that Adm. Fallon resigned. I hope beyond hope he comes forth and tells all soon so as a country we can storm the White House and take back America from BUSHCO and his bootlicking lackeys and fear mongers. Only the warmongering Neo-cons would be clapping that Adm. Fallon resigned. I hope beyond hope he comes forth and tells all soon so as a country we can storm the White House and take back America from BUSHCO and his bootlicking lackeys and fear mongers.

]]> By: sashimi http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/comment-page-5/#comment-4300271 sashimi Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:47:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/#comment-4300271 He must come to the public and tell us exactly what has been going on and why he resigned. He must come to the public and tell us exactly what has been going on and why he resigned.

]]> By: moonsha http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/comment-page-5/#comment-4300109 moonsha Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:01:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/#comment-4300109 Bush signing statement undermining the very laws he is to uphold... Dec. 23, 2004: Forbids US troops in Colombia from participating in any combat against rebels, except in cases of self-defense. Caps the number of US troops allowed in Colombia at 800. Bush's signing statement: Only the president, as commander in chief, can place restrictions on the use of US armed forces, so the executive branch will construe the law ''as advisory in nature." Read it again and replace Columbia with Iran. Do you think Bush will wait for or ask for Congressional approval to order a preempted attack on Iran? What hasn't the Bush administration lied about? Why wait to find out? Bush signing statement undermining the very laws he is to uphold…

Dec. 23, 2004: Forbids US troops in Colombia from participating in any combat against rebels, except in cases of self-defense. Caps the number of US troops allowed in Colombia at 800.
Bush’s signing statement: Only the president, as commander in chief, can place restrictions on the use of US armed forces, so the executive branch will construe the law ”as advisory in nature.”

Read it again and replace Columbia with Iran. Do you think Bush will wait for or ask for Congressional approval to order a preempted attack on Iran? What hasn’t the Bush administration lied about? Why wait to find out?

]]> By: shaun http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/comment-page-5/#comment-4300048 shaun Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:20:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/#comment-4300048 what the hell is this guy boot talking about?? - "Fallon’s very public assurances that America has no plans to use force against Iran embolden the mullahs. […]" - emboldens them to do what??? - i'm with willamf at #209. and then he says "By irresponsibly taking the option of force off the table, Fallon makes it more likely, not less, that there will ultimately be an armed confrontation with Iran." - what does this mean??? - that by not threatening a military strike will actually result in an inevitable military strike???.....dr seuss makes more sense than this guy. what the hell is this guy boot talking about?? – “Fallon’s very public assurances that America has no plans to use force against Iran embolden the mullahs. […]” – emboldens them to do what??? – i’m with willamf at #209.
and then he says
“By irresponsibly taking the option of force off the table, Fallon makes it more likely, not less, that there will ultimately be an armed confrontation with Iran.” – what does this mean??? – that by not threatening a military strike will actually result in an inevitable military strike???…..dr seuss makes more sense than this guy.

]]> By: williamf http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/comment-page-5/#comment-4299900 williamf Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:18:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/#comment-4299900 The Admiral is the smartest of the bunch. He knew failing policy and strategy when he saw it and he's going golfing. Why continue to work for a Delusional president. Rightees always worry about something being emboldened...how do they know something will be emboldened? What kind of horseshit is that. Oh, don't do that blah blah will be emboldened. Even if they were, whoever they is, the fascists show little faith in our troops being able to deal with an emboldened enemy, or a mullah for that matter. The most hilarious thing about it is that there is not one republ out there that even approaches Admiral Fallon's experience and knowledge. A man of immense abilities could see the writing on the wall and wanted no part of it. When the scum quit snickering maybe they'll realize a straight talking leader was lost and in this administration straight talk is a rare commodity. The Admiral is the smartest of the bunch. He knew failing policy and strategy when he saw it and he’s going golfing. Why continue to work for a Delusional president. Rightees always worry about something being emboldened…how do they know something will be emboldened? What kind of horseshit is that. Oh, don’t do that blah blah will be emboldened. Even if they were, whoever they is, the fascists show little faith in our troops being able to deal with an emboldened enemy, or a mullah for that matter. The most hilarious thing about it is that there is not one republ out there that even approaches Admiral Fallon’s experience and knowledge. A man of immense abilities could see the writing on the wall and wanted no part of it. When the scum quit snickering maybe they’ll realize a straight talking leader was lost and in this administration straight talk is a rare commodity.

]]> By: belac http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/comment-page-5/#comment-4299800 belac Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:20:50 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/#comment-4299800 Comment by Tracy2 — March 12, 2008 @ 6:46 pm Hey Tracy! Didja finish Clarke's book yet? 'cause here's an example of another professional who spoke out against the Bush Admin. insane policies... does that make Fallon 'blatantly partisan' as well? Comment by Tracy2 — March 12, 2008 @ 6:46 pm

Hey Tracy!
Didja finish Clarke’s book yet?
’cause here’s an example of another professional who spoke out against the Bush Admin. insane policies… does that make Fallon ‘blatantly partisan’ as well?

]]> By: MCMetal http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/comment-page-5/#comment-4299783 MCMetal Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:12:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/#comment-4299783 56 Comment by MCMetal — March 12, 2008 @ 2:24 pm And you would rather give that power to Obama who is as qualified as I am to be POTUS? Comment by Tracy2 — March 12, 2008 @ 6:46 pm You're an apologist/excuse-maker for someone who is even less qualified than Obama to have that power (as he has revealed repeatedly for over 7 years) , dipshit ........... 56

Comment by MCMetal — March 12, 2008 @ 2:24 pm

And you would rather give that power to Obama who is as qualified as I am to be POTUS?

Comment by Tracy2 — March 12, 2008 @ 6:46 pm

You’re an apologist/excuse-maker for someone who is even less qualified than Obama to have that power (as he has revealed repeatedly for over 7 years) , dipshit ………..

]]> By: belac http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/comment-page-5/#comment-4299766 belac Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:03:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/#comment-4299766 ... did I say slightly? I meant VASTLY more qualified and VASTLY more successful. … did I say slightly? I meant VASTLY more qualified and VASTLY more successful.

]]> By: Nature Rules http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/comment-page-5/#comment-4299765 Nature Rules Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:02:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/#comment-4299765 Comment by Tracy2 — March 12, 2008 @ 6:46 pm Oh look, the 10 year old is back. Comment by Tracy2 — March 12, 2008 @ 6:46 pm

Oh look, the 10 year old is back.

]]> By: belac http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/comment-page-5/#comment-4299751 belac Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:57:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/#comment-4299751 And you would rather give that power to Obama who is as qualified as I am to be POTUS? Comment by Tracy2 — March 12, 2008 @ 6:46 pm Yes, but I tend to think he's slightly more qualified and will also be slightly more successful than you as POTUS... And you would rather give that power to Obama who is as qualified as I am to be POTUS?

Comment by Tracy2 — March 12, 2008 @ 6:46 pm

Yes, but I tend to think he’s slightly more qualified and will also be slightly more successful than you as POTUS…

]]> By: MCMetal http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/comment-page-5/#comment-4299652 MCMetal Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:23:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/#comment-4299652 Comment by J — March 12, 2008 @ 5:35 pm Regardless of its validity of being "political suicide" , why would that be an almost immediate statement from her ? Especially after just being swept into her position as Speaker...... I don't get it. Comment by J — March 12, 2008 @ 5:35 pm

Regardless of its validity of being “political suicide” , why would that be an almost immediate statement from her ?

Especially after just being swept into her position as Speaker……

I don’t get it.

]]> By: civic6 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/comment-page-5/#comment-4299622 civic6 Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:12:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/#comment-4299622 Everything time we hear a government official say that Iran supports insurgents in Iraq, we need respond with, "Iran also supports the government, military, police and many businesses. So the questions really is why does Iran both support and destabilize the country?" Everything time we hear a government official say that Iran supports insurgents in Iraq, we need respond with,

“Iran also supports the government, military, police and many businesses. So the questions really is why does Iran both support and destabilize the country?”

]]> By: Leftside Annie http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/comment-page-4/#comment-4299518 Leftside Annie Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:42:45 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/#comment-4299518 Keltoi - Amazon is easy. Barnes & Noble is easy. You pay, they mail the book to you. No excuses, man. ~Annie Keltoi – Amazon is easy. Barnes & Noble is easy. You pay, they mail the book to you. No excuses, man.

~Annie

]]> By: J http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/comment-page-4/#comment-4299502 J Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:35:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/#comment-4299502 Comment by MCMetal — March 12, 2008 @ 5:14 pm Pelosi hasn't come right out and said why, to my knowledge. My interpretation is that it she perceives it as political suicide, even though the Administration's approval ratings have plumetted, she may think that the actual act of impeachment could rally his base and others behind him, which is somewhat likely. Her choice was to simply sit back and let the smaller things add up against Bush until the election 2008 when the Democrats slide right into the Whitehouse (which if Obama wins the nomination, will surely be the case). The question, then is, does she plan to continue impeding justice at that time? I don't like it. It doesn't sit well. I think the right thing should be done at all times, despite any political costs, but I can at least understand that reasoning. Comment by MCMetal — March 12, 2008 @ 5:14 pm

Pelosi hasn’t come right out and said why, to my knowledge. My interpretation is that it she perceives it as political suicide, even though the Administration’s approval ratings have plumetted, she may think that the actual act of impeachment could rally his base and others behind him, which is somewhat likely.

Her choice was to simply sit back and let the smaller things add up against Bush until the election 2008 when the Democrats slide right into the Whitehouse (which if Obama wins the nomination, will surely be the case). The question, then is, does she plan to continue impeding justice at that time?

I don’t like it. It doesn’t sit well. I think the right thing should be done at all times, despite any political costs, but I can at least understand that reasoning.

]]> By: MCMetal http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/comment-page-4/#comment-4299450 MCMetal Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:14:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/#comment-4299450 It saddens me that this is actually occurring in MY COUNTRY. Comment by MCMetal — March 12, 2008 @ 4:40 pm I hear you. I personally think (hope) that Pelosi has only taken impeachment off of the table for cynical/political reasons. If, however, we get a Democrat elected as president and we maintain (or build on) our majority in Congress and there’s still nothing, then I’m with you. Then we riot. Comment by J — March 12, 2008 @ 5:10 pm Does anyone have an answer for that , BTW ? What and why would Pelosi , immediately from what I can vaguely remember (too much partying) , remove impeachment ? Why would anyone make tha type of claim at any time , much less right off the bat ? That strikes me as very odd , to put it mildly........ It saddens me that this is actually occurring in MY COUNTRY.

Comment by MCMetal — March 12, 2008 @ 4:40 pm

I hear you. I personally think (hope) that Pelosi has only taken impeachment off of the table for cynical/political reasons. If, however, we get a Democrat elected as president and we maintain (or build on) our majority in Congress and there’s still nothing, then I’m with you. Then we riot.

Comment by J — March 12, 2008 @ 5:10 pm

Does anyone have an answer for that , BTW ?

What and why would Pelosi , immediately from what I can vaguely remember (too much partying) , remove impeachment ?

Why would anyone make tha type of claim at any time , much less right off the bat ?

That strikes me as very odd , to put it mildly……..

]]> By: MCMetal http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/comment-page-4/#comment-4299443 MCMetal Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:12:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/#comment-4299443 It still does. Congress has chosen not to fullfill their obligations. How many Senators have you called today? Ever? Comment by J — March 12, 2008 @ 4:43 pm I call them daily ; Lautenberg’s and Menedez’ staff joke with me all the time about my constant badgering of them . They also thanked me for my constant concern ; I now regret deleting Lautenberg’s personal response back to me via e-mail and a written letter regarding telecom immunity (which he voted against , I’m proud to say). Comment by MCMetal — March 12, 2008 @ 5:05 pm I just wanted to add that sadly , it doesn't always work out the way we might want ; but that doesn't mean we should stop trying........ It still does. Congress has chosen not to fullfill their obligations. How many Senators have you called today? Ever?

Comment by J — March 12, 2008 @ 4:43 pm

I call them daily ; Lautenberg’s and Menedez’ staff joke with me all the time about my constant badgering of them .

They also thanked me for my constant concern ; I now regret deleting Lautenberg’s personal response back to me via e-mail and a written letter regarding telecom immunity (which he voted against , I’m proud to say).

Comment by MCMetal — March 12, 2008 @ 5:05 pm

I just wanted to add that sadly , it doesn’t always work out the way we might want ; but that doesn’t mean we should stop trying……..

]]> By: J http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/comment-page-4/#comment-4299439 J Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:10:36 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/#comment-4299439 It saddens me that this is actually occurring in MY COUNTRY. Comment by MCMetal — March 12, 2008 @ 4:40 pm I hear you. I personally think (hope) that Pelosi has only taken impeachment off of the table for cynical/political reasons. If, however, we get a Democrat elected as president and we maintain (or build on) our majority in Congress and there's still nothing, then I'm with you. Then we riot. It saddens me that this is actually occurring in MY COUNTRY.

Comment by MCMetal — March 12, 2008 @ 4:40 pm

I hear you. I personally think (hope) that Pelosi has only taken impeachment off of the table for cynical/political reasons. If, however, we get a Democrat elected as president and we maintain (or build on) our majority in Congress and there’s still nothing, then I’m with you. Then we riot.

]]> By: MCMetal http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/comment-page-4/#comment-4299437 MCMetal Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:09:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/#comment-4299437 Makes him even more wrong and even more troll-like , considering I never made the statement Kelt Boy repeatedly claimed I did , and I did state that before I went off and called him all the names that are perfectably applicable in describing him………. Comment by MCMetal — March 12, 2008 @ 4:33 pm I have re-read all my posts. The post of yours I invited you to clarify - which you refuse to do - was the only time I implied you wanted to remove Bush by bringing up Turkey and Pakistan. It was only an implication, I haven’t said it repeatedly. Your point is weak at best, and for someone who incessantly resorts to vicious personal insults I have a hard time buying your indignity. Comment by Keltoi — March 12, 2008 @ 4:48 pm My existence here , is not for you to "buy" , jerkoff ........ I don't care about your opinion of my intent or my post(s) ; you have proven your inabilities and dishonesty. Do as you wish ; I simply don't give a damn enough to consider you seriously . You're an unfunny clown............ BTW You have stated I have refused to clarify what I wrote ; I have clarified it , and you have finally admitted you made an assumption based upon nothing. Congrats on finally grasping a bit of reality related to your inabilities......... Makes him even more wrong and even more troll-like , considering I never made the statement Kelt Boy repeatedly claimed I did , and I did state that before I went off and called him all the names that are perfectably applicable in describing him……….

Comment by MCMetal — March 12, 2008 @ 4:33 pm

I have re-read all my posts. The post of yours I invited you to clarify – which you refuse to do – was the only time I implied you wanted to remove Bush by bringing up Turkey and Pakistan. It was only an implication, I haven’t said it repeatedly.

Your point is weak at best, and for someone who incessantly resorts to vicious personal insults I have a hard time buying your indignity.

Comment by Keltoi — March 12, 2008 @ 4:48 pm

My existence here , is not for you to “buy” , jerkoff ……..

I don’t care about your opinion of my intent or my post(s) ; you have proven your inabilities and dishonesty.

Do as you wish ; I simply don’t give a damn enough to consider you seriously .

You’re an unfunny clown…………

BTW

You have stated I have refused to clarify what I wrote ; I have clarified it , and you have finally admitted you made an assumption based upon nothing.

Congrats on finally grasping a bit of reality related to your inabilities………

]]> By: MCMetal http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/comment-page-4/#comment-4299420 MCMetal Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:05:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/#comment-4299420 It still does. Congress has chosen not to fullfill their obligations. How many Senators have you called today? Ever? Comment by J — March 12, 2008 @ 4:43 pm I call them daily ; Lautenberg's and Menedez' staff joke with me all the time about my constant badgering of them . They also thanked me for my constant concern ; I now regret deleting Lautenberg's personal response back to me via e-mail and a written letter regarding telecom immunity (which he voted against , I'm proud to say). It still does. Congress has chosen not to fullfill their obligations. How many Senators have you called today? Ever?

Comment by J — March 12, 2008 @ 4:43 pm

I call them daily ; Lautenberg’s and Menedez’ staff joke with me all the time about my constant badgering of them .

They also thanked me for my constant concern ; I now regret deleting Lautenberg’s personal response back to me via e-mail and a written letter regarding telecom immunity (which he voted against , I’m proud to say).

]]> By: J http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/comment-page-4/#comment-4299391 J Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:54:00 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/right-wing-fallon-resignation/#comment-4299391 j want to step in here and sort this thing out for us? Comment by joe cantwell — March 12, 2008 @ 4:31 pm ;) I already tried... Sabyen91 got it w/ the whole slippery slope thing, but I guess they nobody else caught it. I'm not sure where else to take it. j want to step in here and sort this thing out for us?

Comment by joe cantwell — March 12, 2008 @ 4:31 pm

;) I already tried… Sabyen91 got it w/ the whole slippery slope thing, but I guess they nobody else caught it. I’m not sure where else to take it.

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