Spitzer resigns as New York governor.
Spitzer resigns as New York governor.
Today, Eliot Spitzer announced that he is stepping down as governor of New York state, after his involvement in a high-end prostitution ring was revealed earlier this week. His resignation will be effective on March 17. Watch it:
Lt. Gov. David Paterson will now take Spitzer’s position, becoming the state’s first African-American and blind governor, and only the third African-American governor since Reconstruction.
UPDATE: Lt. Gov. David Paterson has put out a statement:
Like all New Yorkers I am saddened by what we have learned over the past several days. On a personal level Governor Spitzer and Silda have been close and steadfast friends. As an elected official the Governor has worked hard for the people of New York.
My heart goes out to him and to his family at this difficult and painful time. I ask all New Yorkers to join Michelle and me in prayer for them.
It is now time for Albany to get back to work as the people of this state expect from us.
Transcript:
SPITZER: In the past few days I have begun to atone for my private failings with my wife Silda, my children and my entire family. The remorse I feel will also be with me. Words cannot describe how grateful I am for the love and compassion they have shown me.
From those to whom much is given, much is expected. I have been given much: the love of my family, the faith and trust of the people of New York, and the chance to lead this state. I am deeply sorry that I did not live up to what was expected of me.
To every New Yorker, and to all those who believed in what I tried to stand for, I sincerely apologize.
I look at my time as governor with a sense of what might have been. But I also know that as a public servant, I and the remarkable people with whom I work have accomplished a great deal.
There is much more to be done, and I cannot allow my private failings to disrupt the people’s work.
Over the course of my public life I have insisted — I believe correctly — that people, regardless of their position or power, take responsibility for their conduct. I can and will ask no less of myself.
For this reason, I am resigning from the office of governor. At Lieutenant Governor Paterson’s request, the resignation will be effective Monday, March 17, a date that he believes will permit an orderly transition.
I go forward with the belief, as others have said, that as human beings our greatest glory consists not in never falling, but in rising every time that we fall.
As I leave public life, I will first do what I need to do to help and heal myself and my family. Then I will try once again, outside of politics, to serve the common good and to move toward the ideals and solutions which I believe can build a future of hope and opportunity for us and for our children.
I hope all of New York will join my prayers for my friend David Paterson as he embarks on his new mission. And I thank the public once again for their privilege of service.
Thank you very much.
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Perhaps Mr. Paterson can raise awareness Nationally about the plight persons with disabilities are in.
Is Ferraro complaining about this, too?
And how about that Senator from NY?
March 12th, 2008 at 11:49 amThis is a man who goes after prostitution operations like a pit bull while privately patronizing them. I shed no tears for this hypocrite.
However, I DO notice that in our political system, sexual misdeeds still seem to be far graver than abusing the power of one’s office.
March 12th, 2008 at 11:50 amAs an upstate New Yorker I have to say I’m sad. A very intelligent man, even his resignation speech was well crafted and sounded sincere…and yet he fails us with his hypocrisy. We expected so much more from him when we voted him in…
March 12th, 2008 at 11:52 amSo when are the ‘bring back integrity’ folks going to ask for Vitters and Craigs resignation?
March 12th, 2008 at 11:52 amXisithrus — March 12, 2008 @ 11:52 am
Republics don’t resign, they just slither away to the nearest stall
March 12th, 2008 at 11:54 amToday will warm the hearts of people with disabilities and their advocates.
Congratulations, Governor Patterson!
March 12th, 2008 at 11:54 amSure, maybe it was under pressure, but he did have the cojones to do the right thing and step down.
Pardon me if I don’t hold my breath for the disgraced Republicans (!) to do the same….
March 12th, 2008 at 11:56 amThank you TP for finally saying he was “involved” with prostitutes, not “linked to a prostitution ring”. Why is it that Republicans are involved with prostitutes, but Democrats are “linked” to prostitution rings?
March 12th, 2008 at 11:57 amYeah, where’s the resignation speeches from Vitter and Craig et al??
March 12th, 2008 at 11:58 amI do feel sorry for Spitzer. He was a brilliant attorney and did much to control the worst impulses of Wall Street. Should he have resigned? Yes, his hypocrisy should cost him his job. But why should we have no sympathy for the man. He did a lot of good, had a lot of promise and now has been held up to public ridicule and lost all that great promise life had in store for him. I may not approve of his actions but one problem we have in the US is this feeling that if you fail, you deserve no compassion. This leads to the kind of winner take all philosophy that feeds many Wall Street and corporate executives. We see it in those who oppose any social safety net or gloat over those who were victims of subprime mortgages (while Wall Street gets bailed out.) Maybe it is time to have empathy for others. Yes, Spitzer deserves his just deserts and they will be bitter. However, the glee that we see from many sickens me.
March 12th, 2008 at 11:58 amWe progressives don’t cotton to misdeeds, unlike the repukes who thrive on immoral, criminal activities.
Buck Hussein Fush
March 12th, 2008 at 11:59 amWonder if Spitzer wishes he was a Republican? In that case, the FBI would have completed ignored his actions, and even if he was found out, he certainly would not need to resign. Just ask David Vitter and Larry Craig.
March 12th, 2008 at 11:59 amBig mistake. The NY State Republicans threatened to impeach. You really have to call them on that bluff and put the word “Impeachment” on the front cover of the papers. Force the GOP to keep impeachment in people’s minds as this country’s biggest political criminals plot to start WWIII against the will of the American people.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:02 pmHubris…
March 12th, 2008 at 12:04 pm“You know, Lt. Gov. Patterson wouldn’t be where he is if he was a white, fully sighted male. And if Spitzer wasn’t a horndog.”
-Geraldine Hussein McBillary Ferraro
March 12th, 2008 at 12:06 pmComment by curmudgeon — March 12, 2008 @ 11:59 am
…or if he was a televangelist tearfully appearing on TV saying how he had sinned against Jeebus…
March 12th, 2008 at 12:07 pmHe has always been a bullying, arrogant, corrupt hypocrite….Good riddance. He will not be missed….The State of New York is an infinitely better place with him out of office.
I realize, of course, that one is not supposed to take pleasure in the problems of others, but I must admit seeing this man, who became governor on the backs of people he harassed and intimidated and coerced by abusing his prosecutorial discretion as AG is a delight.
The rogue prosecutor now facing prosecution — Fantastic.
I never voted for him — either for AG or governor. Vindication is sweet.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:08 pmComment by Rodham Gin — March 12, 2008 @ 12:04 pm
Eliminate? He screwed up and resigned. What comment did Obama make or what influence did Obama have in forcing Spitzer to resign?
The people of NY have spoken, Spitzer is out.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:09 pmSee what happens when you are a public figure and take on Big Money in this country? If you protect the interests of the large corporations, you can get by with everything and if you cross them, you get by with nothing.
Aren’t we fortunate that the FBI’s resources and wiretapping activities are being used in this manner to “protect us” from evil?
Mega-contributions to Bush & Company will surely be flowing soon, for their focusing of the FBI’s efforts on Spitzer.
Although there was supposedly some question as to whether sufficient funding for the Bush Pwesidential Libwawy would be forthcoming, that should no longer be a problem.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:10 pmComment by Exley — March 12, 2008 @ 12:08 pm
And Rove has done the same with the DOJ, yet that doesnt raise a flag to your ethics?
March 12th, 2008 at 12:11 pmI liked Spitzer, I thought he did a lot of GREAT things, but in the end, he was dumber than a box of rocks. I don’t mind the glee from the other side, it goes with the territory. We certainly had our fun with, Craig,Vittner,Foley,et al.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:12 pmVindication is sweet. Comment by Exley — March 12, 2008 @ 12:08 pm
Now, perhaps, all you trolls will finally start to understand why many of us here have long been calling for prosecution of the war criminals in our various governmental entities, particularly in the Executive branch of our federal government, instead of always just going after the sex criminals…
March 12th, 2008 at 12:13 pmOnce again, Exley is on the “winning” team.
Hey, how’s that Romney campaign going? I bet you’re loving the fact that McCain is your man now.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:13 pmI wish Spitzer and his family a full recovery from all of this and nothing but the best.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:14 pmSpitzer most certainly could not have been the only public figure who patronized this call girl service. Who are the others?
March 12th, 2008 at 12:14 pmI have sympathy for Spitzer personally, I think prostitution should be legal and regulated, but he did the right thing in resigning. He had lost his credibility to govern. He had betrayed the trust of the people of New York.
On a lesser note, I also have sympathy for Gigi. She no longer gets to use her newest favorite talking point “Superdelegate #9″.
Poor Gigi. Such a great talking point, gone before its time.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:16 pmWhere are those emails that Rove sent? All of those emails of “official” govt. business and the ones that were sent thru the RNC? This makes a $4,300 BJ seem like small potatoes.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:16 pmStrangely, in the stills from the press conference, his wife looks A LOT like an older Jennifer Aniston.
I might want to hold on to that too, if I was him.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:17 pmToday will warm the hearts of people with disabilities and their advocates.
Congratulations, Governor Patterson! -McWars
Agreed. I’ve spent the last 33 yrs advocating, supporting and developing employment for persons with disabilities.
Having Gov. Paterson in the news will only help non-disabled people gain awareness of how abled people with disabilities are.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:17 pmWhere are those emails that Rove sent? All of those emails of “official†govt. business and the ones that were sent thru the RNC? This makes a $4,300 BJ seem like small potatoes.
Comment by hellinabucket — March 12, 2008 @ 12:16 pm
If Spitzer spent $4300 and only got a BJ, he’s too stupid to govern anyway.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:17 pmWall Street is no doubt happy. I heard that when the news about Spitz’s indiscretions broke, there was a collective cheer on the floor of the NYSE.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:20 pmIf Spitzer spent $4300 and only got a BJ, he’s too stupid to govern anyway. -ralph the wonder llama
I’ve never paid for sex, but for $4,300, I’d want the ‘full meal deal’…
March 12th, 2008 at 12:20 pmAnd Obama is grinnin’ from ear to ear. Eliminate the Govenor of one of the largest states who just happened to endorse Hillary, and was a super delegate, and replace him with one that endorses Obama. Who’s next?
Oh wow. Who would have thunk it that one super delegate stands between Obama and the nomination.
As usual, this idiot troll has nothing to say.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:21 pmComment by ralph the wonder llama — March 12, 2008 @ 12:16 pm
Completely agreed. In my own mind, I actually condemn marital infidelity more than I condemn prostitution. Just root out out the STD transmission.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:21 pmComment by Bilbo Hussein Baggins — March 12, 2008 @ 12:21 pm
If Barack makes it to a 200-point lead over Clinton, Clinton will officially offer Obama the VP spot!
March 12th, 2008 at 12:22 pmZooey,
Were you under the impression that I was a Romney supporter during the primaries? If so, I am unsure where you got that idea.
What we all do recall during the early days of the primaries was my correct assertion on the night of the Iowa caucuses that John Edwards was done…And I recall you vehemently denying that…..How is that Edwards campaign doing, Zooey?
In any case, it is a happy day in the great state of New York!
March 12th, 2008 at 12:24 pmSpitzer most certainly could not have been the only public figure who patronized this call girl service. Who are the others?
Comment by curmudgeon
They all have (R) after their name so they are getting a pass.
Come on Larry Flint. Now is the time for you to release your list.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:24 pmWall Street is no doubt happy. I heard that when the news about Spitz’s indiscretions broke, there was a collective cheer on the floor of the NYSE.
Comment by Uncle Ho — March 12, 2008 @ 12:20 pm
Exactly.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:24 pmWhy do they keep using, “his involvement in a high-end prostitution ring” in stories about this guy as if he was running the ring instead of just paying for some sex?
And isn’t it ironic that the repugs in his his state were threatening impeachment and yet repugs nationally sit on their asses and do nothing about the chimp.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:24 pmCome on Larry Flint. Now is the time for you to release your list.
AMEN!!!
March 12th, 2008 at 12:25 pmI guess this shows that the hypocrisy of politician-ethicists–who remain deviants in private–is blind to party lines.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:25 pmAnd isn’t it ironic that the repugs in his his state were threatening impeachment and yet repugs nationally sit on their asses and do nothing about the chimp.
And that is why he should not resign. If I’m Spitzer I say OK so I’m going to go anyway. Let’s hear the word impeachment thrown around by Republicans yet again over someone diddling around.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:26 pmBy all reports Spitz has been pulling this stunt for years. Interstate prostitution usually has ties to the mob. Obama has ties to the Chicago mob(Antoin “Tony†Rezko ). Rezko is under pressure from the feds, gives up info that might help his buddy Obama. Follow the money.
Wow, talk about circular logic. This one made my head spin. This troll is without a doubt the stupidest one to come along in a while.
Keep on dreaming troll. If that’s what floats your boat, keep it up. You are, though, in for a rude awakening in November.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:27 pmIn any case, it is a happy day in the great state of New York!
Comment by Exley — March 12, 2008 @ 12:24 pm
And on Wall Street.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:29 pm“Wall Street is no doubt happy.”
True enough!
‘March 11, 2008 — Cheers erupted on trading floors around the city yesterday as word spread of the stunning downfall of Gov. Spitzer – who spent most of his term as attorney general torturing Wall Street with his witch hunt for financial wrongdoing.
An employee of a major investment bank, who requested anonymity, said the company chef had been instructed to break out bottles of champagne so that the staff could party and swap jokes about “client No. 9.”
Meanwhile, at another giant firm, Merrill Lynch, “everyone broke into cheering on the trading floor,” an employee said.’
But not just Lower Manhattan…ALL of New York is happy today!
March 12th, 2008 at 12:30 pmAs soon as Ted Kennedy resigns…thirty years later.
Wow, one Democrat is involved in a scandal and that excuses the wrong-doing of all Republicans for the next 30-40 years.
I’m willing to bet that if you combined the IQ’s of all the trolls on this site it still wouldn’t be enough for them to qualify for Mensa membership.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:31 pmGood. He did the right thing. NOW…can we PLEASE stop talking about this?!? There are FAR more important issues going on in the world!
March 12th, 2008 at 12:31 pmBut not just Lower Manhattan…ALL of New York is happy today!
Comment by Exley — March 12, 2008 @ 12:30 pm
Now all we need is the Chimpy administration to resign , and the whole planet would be elated ……………..
March 12th, 2008 at 12:32 pmBut not just Lower Manhattan…ALL of New York is happy today!
All of the Republiscums in New York are happy today. I think that the Democrats are mostly sad.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:32 pmSo when are the ‘bring back integrity’ folks going to ask for Vitters and Craigs resignation?
Comment by Xisithrus — March 12, 2008 @ 11:52 am
As soon as Ted Kennedy resigns…thirty years later.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 12:27 pm
How come 1 Democratic politician does the correct thing and steps down , and you morons who back the party of “family values” and “personal responsibility” , still excuse-make for those in the garbage GOP who don’t follow that edict ?
March 12th, 2008 at 12:35 pmHow come 1 Democratic politician does the correct thing and steps down , and you morons who back the party of “family values†and “personal responsibility†, still excuse-make for those in the garbage GOP who don’t follow that edict ?
Comment by MCMetal — March 12, 2008 @ 12:35 pm
IOKIYAR.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:37 pmWhy do they keep using, “his involvement in a high-end prostitution ring†in stories about this guy as if he was running the ring instead of just paying for some sex?
Comment by TheRadicalRightisRadicallyWrong — March 12, 2008 @ 12:24 pm
It’s true that the media implied more sensation than there really was by phrasing their teasers that way. It’s a little like saying that I “am involved” with McDonald’s when I go in there to buy a Big Mac.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:37 pmIf Spitzer spent $4300 and only got a BJ, he’s too stupid to govern anyway.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — March 12, 2008 @ 12:17 pm
Priceless!!!
I can’t think of any singular act or combination of the most exotic acts that is worth that kind of money! ;)
March 12th, 2008 at 12:38 pmALL of New York is happy today!
Comment by Exley — March 12, 2008 @ 12:30 pm
Can’t imagine that’s true, but t’anks fer playin’, Ex-lax.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:42 pmsexual misdeeds still seem to be far graver than abusing the power of one’s office.
Comment by missmolly — March 12, 2008 @ 11:50 am
Or getting 100s of thousands of people killed over lies…
March 12th, 2008 at 12:42 pmA couple of things I’d like to point out, and then vent.
1) As Missmolly says in post 2, he’s a hypocrite. He deserves to resign. I don’t follow NY politics, but, even agreeing with Exley here, good riddance.
2) Do notice that in his apology, he states that it is “his failings”. NOT his wife’s, our societies, or anything/anyone else. He took responsibility. Good show.
Now the vent:
March 12th, 2008 at 12:42 pmAs I walked to a local hot dog restaurant for lunch, a headline from the USAToday was practically screaming at me… “What makes a man of power cheat”, and then goes on to list Bill Clinton, Newt Gingrich, Kobe Bryant, as well as a few celebrities. Every single media outlet is now on the questioning a man’s fidelity. Newsweek, yahoo, Time, hell, even the quack Dr. Laura was interviewed (which by the way was a fun thread).
Where were the headlines of “What makes a distinguished husband and family man toe tap in a restroom stall known for it’s anonymous gay sex?” or “Why do congressmen abuse their power and solicit sex with young male interns?” Where was the outrage? Where were the continuous quack doctors making their rounds on all media stations? Why could Vitter, Craig, et al. be practically swept under the rug, yet Spitzer is making headline after headline after headline?
Liberal media, my A$$!
I watched the news resport on the resignation and Spitz’s wife looks at him like she wants to kick his ass, again. Wow.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:43 pmIt’s true that the media implied more sensation than there really was by phrasing their teasers that way.
Comment by missmolly — March 12, 2008 @ 12:37 pm
It’s not just the “media” it’s this site. I cut that out of the article above… WTF?
It’s exactly lie saying one is linked to McD’s because they have lunch there once in a while. No, they are customers, infrequent customers at that!
March 12th, 2008 at 12:48 pmI’ll be the last one surprised when Obama’s 1st official act is to issue a full Presidential pardon for Rezko, pay back you know.
Comment by Rodham Gin — March 12, 2008 @ 12:48 pm
What an absurd comment. Please try harder.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:49 pmIf Spitzer spent $4300 and only got a BJ, he’s too stupid to govern anyway.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — March 12, 2008 @ 12:17 pm
For that type of cash, there better be guaranteed “oral gratification” every day of the year, involving 2 prostitutes! Oh, and box seats for the World Series.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:49 pmJust sayin….
The alleged procurer in a prostitution scandal surrounding New York Governor Eliot Spitzer has been denied bail for his Israeli origins.
The 62-year-old Mark Michael Brener has been a US citizen for two decades and was denied bail following his arrest over claims that he ran the Emperors VIP Club, described by the police as a high-priced prostitution ring.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:50 pmWow.
Comment by Wayne — March 12, 2008 @ 12:43 pm
Can’t… fault… her for that, huh?
Elliot musta bin lettin’ the little head do the thinkin’…
March 12th, 2008 at 12:50 pmMark Michael Brener has been a US citizen for two decades and was denied bail following his arrest over claims that he ran the Emperors VIP Club,
According to The Associated Press, Brener was denied bail because he had in his possession $600,000 in cash and an Israeli passport which may allow him to escape from the country if released.
The White House alleges that Brener had been catering for high-ranking politicians and entrepreneurs from around the world.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:52 pmWhere was the outrage?
Liberal media, my A$$!
Comment by DRxJ — March 12, 2008 @ 12:42 pm
Well, in our defense, we were relentlessly snarky here at TP…
March 12th, 2008 at 12:52 pmLiberal media, my A$$!
Comment by DRxJ — March 12, 2008 @ 12:42 pm
Puppets on a string, eh?
March 12th, 2008 at 12:52 pm-Geraldine Hussein McBillary Ferraro
Comment by The Dogfather — March 12, 2008 @ 12:06 pm
Good one, Dogfather…
March 12th, 2008 at 12:54 pmThe scandal comes as a blow to Hillary Clinton who was confident that she could count on the New York governor as one of her all-important superdelegates.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:54 pmImpeachment, Is Now Only for Democrats and Only for Sex
March 12th, 2008 at 12:55 pmAn article by Eliot Spitzer about predatory lending, and BushCo’s facilitation thereof:
How the Bush administration stopped the states from stepping in to help consumers.
Several years ago, state attorneys general and others involved in consumer protection began to notice a marked increase in a range of predatory lending practices by mortgage lenders. Some were misrepresenting the terms of loans, making loans without regard to consumers’ ability to repay, making loans with deceptive “teaser” rates that later ballooned astronomically, packing loans with undisclosed charges and fees, or even paying illegal kickbacks. These and other practices, we noticed, were having a devastating effect on home buyers. In addition, the widespread nature of these practices, if left unchecked, threatened our financial markets.
Even though predatory lending was becoming a national problem, the Bush administration looked the other way and did nothing to protect American homeowners. In fact, the government chose instead to align itself with the banks that were victimizing consumers.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:56 pmAccording to The Associated Press, Brener was denied bail because he had in his possession $600,000 in cash and an Israeli passport which may allow him to escape from the country if released.
The White House alleges that Brener had been catering for high-ranking politicians and entrepreneurs from around the world.
Comment by Tobie Tall — March 12, 2008 @ 12:52 pm
One little clarification… being caught w/ $600,000 cash is prolly enough reason to get yer butt tossed in the can. Having a foreign passport definitely makes it worse, but this doesn’t add up “denied bail because of his Israeli origins”.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:57 pmComment by Rodham Gin — March 12, 2008 @ 12:48 pm
Actually, that’ll be President Obama’s third official act, following: (1) issuing an Executive Order rendering null and void all of the Executive Orders and signing statements issued by Dumbya over the preceding 8 years; and (2) signing off on a Justice Department investigation of the war crimes committed by the Dumbya administration over the preceding 8 years.
After those two, then he’ll think about your little hissy-fit talking point thingy…and two seconds later, he’ll move on to restoring our democracy without fulfilling your hallucinations…
March 12th, 2008 at 12:57 pmLiberal media, my A$$!
Comment by DRxJ — March 12, 2008 @ 12:42 pm
Ain’t it wonderful!
“Cheap Rotgut Ginâ€
Comment by Rotgut Gin — March 12, 2008 @ 12:50 pm
Well, I guess it’s official — the myth of the “liberal media” is officially dead.
Even troll Cheap Bathtub Gin agrees. The media is officially right-wing.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:58 pmPuppets on a string, eh?
Comment by Zooey — March 12, 2008 @ 12:52 pm
And for the GOOPers in the audience, puppets on a G-string, ta boot!
March 12th, 2008 at 12:59 pmComment by Rodham Gin — March 12, 2008 @ 12:48 pm
What an absurd comment. Please try harder.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — March 12, 2008 @ 12:49 pm
Have to be specific with these trolls, TROS
Now Gen will be trying harder to be absurd, lol
March 12th, 2008 at 1:00 pmTobie Tall,
March 12th, 2008 at 1:00 pmGood call.
Outing a CIA agent, misleading the world into an “occupation”, illegal wire-tappings: GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY!
Over paying for a lil hummer: IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH!
#66 Hey DRxJ,
How are you?
Gotta quibble with you on one thing…The ex-governor (Hehehehe…I love the sound of that (Yeah, I know it is not official until Monday) said his “PRIVATE failings…”
Uh, no, Eliot…Money laundering, financial structuring for an illegal activity, solicitation, trafficking in prostitution are crimes against the public….He can try to couch his activities as a “private failing” all he want. I doubt the U.S. Attorney will agree….
Trying to arrange a visit to Comerica Park this summer….
March 12th, 2008 at 1:04 pmNow Gen will be trying harder to be absurd, lol
Comment by Wayne — March 12, 2008 @ 1:00 pm
Sorry… my bad.
“Plese try harder to say something meaningful and relevant…”
March 12th, 2008 at 1:04 pmALL of New York is happy today!
Comment by Exley — March 12, 2008 @ 12:30 pm
good for you, ex-lax. you should celebrate by sitting down and writing out a big ($2300.00 is the legal limit i believe) check to help republican candidates get elected. send it to these guys:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/06/washington/06gop.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
tell your friends.
if you have any.
*
March 12th, 2008 at 1:05 pmAnd for the GOOPers in the audience, puppets on a G-string, ta boot!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — March 12, 2008 @ 12:59 pm
Ew.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:06 pmSorry, Z. Hope yer breakfast stayed put.
In other news, time to start flagging another one folks.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:15 pmCome on Larry Flint. Now is the time for you to release your list.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:16 pmAMEN!!!
Comment by lefty — March 12, 2008 @ 12:25 pm
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I’ve got nothing against porn, but it’s really really sad that we have to rely on a smut peddler to reveal the corruption and depravity of the leadership of this country.
Exley,
That’s why I posted that I don’t follow NY politics! I just took his apology as his failings of infidelity.
BTW, let me know when/if you snag tix. If it’s a weekend game, I can make the two hour drive and join ya. I’ll even buy you a gawd awful expensive 40 ounce Labatt, which usually becomes luke warm half way through drinking it!
March 12th, 2008 at 1:17 pmSo when are the ‘bring back integrity’ folks going to ask for Vitters and Craigs resignation?
Comment by Xisithrus — March 12, 2008 @ 11:52 am
As soon as Ted Kennedy resigns…thirty years later.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 12:27 pm
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Is your Gold Standard of virtue really tied to Ted Kennedy?
March 12th, 2008 at 1:18 pmWarning! Warning! Here comes a truth alert for Obamatons….
Obama should take the VP offer from Senator Clinton while the offer is still there.
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:20 pmThat’s my top ten favorite Bilbo. Politicians are sick by nature, on both sides.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:15 pm
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Do you have a top ten from this milleneum?
March 12th, 2008 at 1:20 pmThat’s my top ten favorite Bilbo. Politicians are sick by nature, on both sides.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:15 pm
wayne hays?
how about andrew jackson and rachel donelson robards?
man you are old!
:)
March 12th, 2008 at 1:21 pmHi, Gigi. I wanted to tell you how sorry I am that your favorite talking point, “Superdelegate #9″ was euthanized by Gov. Spitzer this morning.
I know this must be a difficult time for you. I know you were counting on riding the “Superdelegate #9″ horse all the way to the convention.
Where should we send flowers?
March 12th, 2008 at 1:22 pmDo you have a top ten from this milleneum?
Comment by deebaser — March 12, 2008 @ 1:20 pm
Right, deebaser. I noticed the same thing.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:22 pmThose are key issues to be further explored in the ongoing investigation.
Comment by good_golly — March 12, 2008 @ 1:18 pm
Infer much?
March 12th, 2008 at 1:23 pm#96 DRxJ,
Sounds good…If I can actually pull this thing off and get to Comerica, let’s work something out and watch a game….Of course, I extend the same invitation to you if you in the Mid-Atlantic part of the country and you want to take in a game in NY, Philly, Baltimore or DC….
March 12th, 2008 at 1:24 pmThat’s my top ten favorite Bilbo. Politicians are sick by nature, on both sides.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:15 pm
Your pathetic list contains examples that are ALL OVER a decade-and-a-half old , nitwit ; got anything from this century , you ignorant rube ?
March 12th, 2008 at 1:25 pmAn employee of a major investment bank, who requested anonymity, said the company chef had been instructed to break out bottles of champagne so that the staff could party and swap jokes about “client No. 9.â€
Meanwhile, at another giant firm, Merrill Lynch, “everyone broke into cheering on the trading floor,†an employee said.’
But not just Lower Manhattan…ALL of New York is happy today!
Comment by Exley — March 12, 2008 @ 12:30 pm
———–
Not hardly. I’m sure people that were rightfully brought down a few notches are celebrating, but that really isn’t representative of “all of New York”
Dee_Uppereastsider
March 12th, 2008 at 1:25 pmComment by good_golly — March 12, 2008 @ 1:18 pm
you may be right gg! could be a key money laundering link here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/06/washington/06gop.html
stay on top of these issues for us, ok?
even if you have to miss a few baseball games!
March 12th, 2008 at 1:26 pmThat’s my top ten favorite Bilbo. Politicians are sick by nature, on both sides.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:15 pm
Niiice. 30-year-old scandals are always the best. Moldy oldies.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:26 pmComment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:15 pm
here’s a tip for ya. when you spit out your tobacco juice use a paper cup.
;)
March 12th, 2008 at 1:28 pmKennedy did NOTHING WRONG.
NEVER charged with a crime.
Vitter ADMITTED his diaper/dildo affairs.
Larry Craig pleaded GUILTY.
Your HYPOCRISY, and that of your fellow RapeubliNazis, is NOTED in this building…
You LOVE the TREASON of the Bush WAR CR(MINALS, and you HATE the TRUTH and the FREEDOM of Americans
Comment by Arn Gunnutes — March 12, 2008 @ 12:32 pm
You don’t believe Teddy was responsible for that young womans death? Then who was Arn? Bush senior maybe? That would make sense in your world.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:25 pm
How many deaths has Chimpy the Wonder Monkey been responsible for , Southern Spam ?
March 12th, 2008 at 1:28 pmNiiice. 30-year-old scandals are always the best. Moldy oldies.
Comment by gummitch — March 12, 2008 @ 1:26 pm
he’s an old feller, ain’t ya southie?
March 12th, 2008 at 1:29 pmHeh. All the hysterical whinging, fainting and browbeating from the Repukes would be PERFECT for an old timey stage melodrama. Someone fetch the smelling salts – QUICK!!
*eyeroll*
March 12th, 2008 at 1:29 pmComment by joe cantwell — March 12, 2008 @ 1:28 pm
Naaah, joe. That one likes ta swallow…
March 12th, 2008 at 1:30 pmjoe cantwell rises an excellent point about Southern Man’s “top ten list”.
Let’s examine the dates of SM’s faves:
10: vague “1990s”
9. fondling in 1989
8. vote to censure in 1990. Offense occurred in 1988 and wasn’t Frank’s action.
7. 1988
6. 1978
5. 1976
4. also 1976
3. 1994
2. 1969
1. 1996
REally, SM? That’s the very best you can do? The most recent of these incidents is a dozen years old. Almost half of them occurred before Reagan was inaugurated.
If that’s the best you can do, it would seem that Democrats have settled down quite a bit over the past 40 years.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:30 pmNiiice. 30-year-old scandals are always the best. Moldy oldies.
Comment by gummitch — March 12, 2008 @ 1:26 pm
he’s an old feller, ain’t ya southie?
Comment by joe cantwell — March 12, 2008 @ 1:29 pm
I don’t have a problem with the elderly ……………Only with the (willfully) ignorant and stupid.
Excrement , Goof_Jelly and Southern Spam are definitely prime examples ………..
March 12th, 2008 at 1:31 pmCongratulations to Mr. Spitzer on demonstrating how to handle these situations. Republicans would do well to follow his example.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:33 pmAwakening? I’ll be the last one surprised when Obama’s 1st official act is to issue a full Presidential pardon for Rezko, pay back you know.
Were you surprised when Bush issued a pardon (or whatever it was) to Scooter Libby?
March 12th, 2008 at 1:33 pmJust did some more checking on SM’s Top Ten, and no. 10, actually refers to a campaign ad run in 1992 by an opponent of Sen Inouye, making hay out of an incident that occurred in 1975.
So that makes fully HALF of SM’s list at least 30 years old. And still none more recent than a dozen years.
THAT’s timely, SM.
How about your numbers 11-20 now? We can handle it.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:36 pmYou don’t believe Teddy was responsible for that young womans death? Then who was Arn? Bush senior maybe? That would make sense in your world.
Ted Kennedy was responsible for the death of the young woman. Just like Laura Bush was responsible for the death of her ex-boyfriend when she killed him in an automobile accident. The point is they were both ruled accidental, not crimes.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:36 pmI guees it’s irrelevant then. All actions pre 2000 don’t count today. Wish I could live in that world.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:31 pm
boy, do you give up easy!
ex-lax and gg why don’t you guys help a brother troll out?
oh, so you think he’s a dumb shit too? sorry.
southie… you’re on your own.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:37 pmDo you have a top ten from this milleneum?
Comment by deebaser — March 12, 2008 @ 1:20 pm
Right, deebaser. I noticed the same thing.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — March 12, 2008 @ 1:22 pm
I guees it’s irrelevant then. All actions pre 2000 don’t count today. Wish I could live in that world.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:31 pm
Yeah , instead you and your fellow GOP/Chimpy leg humping moronic brethren in Goof_Jelly and Excrement want to excuse-make/apologize for a life-long failure and habitual liar who has proven himself to be the worst president in US history ; and who has caused the deaths of OVER 1 MILLION PEOPLE , which you find perfectly acceptable ……………What a loser.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:37 pmComment by Zooey — March 12, 2008 @ 12:56 pm
Ha, just another inconvenient truth, nothing to see here… move along.
Sarc/off
March 12th, 2008 at 1:38 pmMy point is, it’s not just the republicans. Democrats are guilty of this as well.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:36 pm
If you’re going to make a point, it would help if you could prove it. All you’ve proven is that Democrats, over a 30-year span, have occasionally transgressed. Try comparing that to the list above.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:38 pmGeez, rhf… is that all you could find?
Stop slackin’ and git ‘er dun!
Hmmmm… not too many of THOSE are 10 or even 20 years old…
March 12th, 2008 at 1:38 pmMy point is, it’s not just the republicans. Democrats are guilty of this as well.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:36 pm
Well, that may have been the point you thought you were making, but the list you offered actually made a different point: that Democrats have been guilty of this in the distant past as well.
In short, you didn’t make your point very effectively.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:39 pmMy point is, it’s not just the republicans. Democrats are guilty of this as well.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:36 pm
next time i see senator mcsame posing with “pastor hagee” i’ll remember your words, southie.
thanks old timer.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:39 pmComment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:42 pm
southie, but i thought you might be interested in this stuff especially if you’re like other folks your age who have to get up at night and keep going. check it out.
http://www.depend.com/learn/male_incont.asp?WT.srch=1&WT.mc_id=26811&IQ_ID=26811
remember it affects both republicans and democrats so don’t be ashamed.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:46 pm120 – thanks for trotting out “the list”.
makes all of Mr. Golly and Mr. Man’s remarks look very silly.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:48 pmMy point is, it’s not just the republicans. Democrats are guilty of this as well.
Comment by Southern Man
SM…..your point seemed to me to be that it’s ok for republicans to get away with this shit but look over here…..quick. See what democrats have done in the past…..well we thought they did anyway……whether it’s true or not.
Another thing is why is this governor so much more important than congressmen and senators who are part of the national government? Why is Foley……a true pervert not in prison for example…..can one of you defenders of the right please explain that to me.
This man was preying on children……just as you accused Bill Clinton of doing…….except the are the same sex which should be even worse to you who are religious fundies.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:49 pmpreoccupation with lurid and trivial matters, and a penchance for oversimplification that just won’t quit.
guess that’s what being a righty is all about.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:49 pmYo, Southie – when did a blow job between CONSENTING ADULTS become illegal…?
Idiot.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:49 pmHey, Southie – when did a blow job between CONSENTING ADULTS become illegal…?
Idiot.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:51 pmIt still does not make them irrelevant, no matter how you try and spin it off. Some people here act as if the dems are without any shame. They have shame in their party as well as the reps, no matter how long ago it transpired.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:42 pm
At what point would say old news becomes irrelevant to today’s political climate, then? How about a scandal involving Sen. Arthur Brown (R-UT) who was shot to death by a jealous mistress in 1906? Is that relevant?
Or you could go to Rep. Wm. Breckenridge (D-KY) who was sued by his longtime mistress in 1893 to prove that Democrats are just as bad.
Here’s a good one: famed lawyer and orator, Secretary of State, and Senator Daniel Webster (D. MA), the father of four legitimate children, was accused by Washington, DC correspondent Jane Grey Swisshelm of fathering two illegitimate “mulatto†children in 1850.
That ought to score you some points.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:51 pmHagee needs to be taken out in my opinion. I thought I made that clear yesterday.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:49 pm
of course you did!
you’re not losing your memory.
just your hair.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:51 pmAll actions pre 2000 don’t count today. Wish I could live in that world.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:31 pm
Should I take the time to explain this to you, or do you just want to be “right”?
Spitzer did resign. And many of us here, including me, called for that right from the start. (You can read?)
“He needs to resign, period.
Comment by Wayne — March 10, 2008 @ 2:15 pm
Yeaaaah… but I ain’t holding my breath.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — March 10, 2008 @ 2:16 pm”
Vitter has not.
Craig has even gone so far as to repeatedly try get his own plea overturned. Me? I’m kinda glad Craig refuses to resign. He’s an embarrassment to the GOOP and a millstone around their collective wattles.
I’m one of the ones here who have repeatedly said they wished we would vote almost ALL currently elected office holders out. A clean sweep, if ya know what I mean.
In some cases, you’re citing cases of folks who have been DEAD for years. Do you want to dig them up so they can resign or be tried?
The GOOP leadership covered for Mark Foley until it couldn’t hide the mess anymore, and then tried to blame it on the “librul” media.
The Betty Broderick case has been discredited so many times, yet you still list it. Apparently in YOUR world, discredited allegations are TRUE, and the actions of dead people excuse the actions of the living.
I’m glad I don’t live in YOUR world.
Yer just a partisan hack, and that’s all.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:54 pmYo, Southie – when did a blow job between CONSENTING ADULTS become illegal…?
Idiot.
Comment by Leftside Annie — March 12, 2008 @ 1:49 pm
for us it isn’t, annie. but for gg, ex-lax and southie why it’s a terrible crime.
that’s why southie wrote “Wish I could live in that world.”
right southie?
*
March 12th, 2008 at 1:54 pmSM-
March 12th, 2008 at 1:55 pmWe need to seperate the MORAL issue from the ETHICAL one…
We cannot legislate morals since they are the inner compass used to guide behavior- we CAN legislate ethics since they are the rules that society uses to guide behavior…
Bill Clinton and Monica was a moral issue, therefore a private matter between him and his family- that’s why the grounds for impeachment were contempt, not sex… and they only scraped those together after years of depositions and narrowing the deinition of ’sexual relations’ intentionally in the hopes of ‘tripping’ Clinton up- it was silly, childish and wasteful.
Vitter, Craig, Spitzer, et al. (refer to RHF’s list for more) all broke the law- that’s an ethical violation and therefore they need to resign.
That’s the point- ETHICS v. MORALS… learn the difference.
That’s my top ten favorite Bilbo. Politicians are sick by nature, on both sides.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:15 pm
funny how accusations are the same as guilt to you immoral, putrid republican hypocrites.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:56 pmDo they come in burgundy? I can only wear burgundy after the fall. My hip talks to me you know. “Get up Southie†it says to me.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:53 pm
yeah ex-lax and gg…
southie,
he’s one of yours!
March 12th, 2008 at 1:56 pmI guees it’s irrelevant then. All actions pre 2000 don’t count today. Wish I could live in that world.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:31 pm
it wouldn’t matter. conservatives are, by nature, perverts and rapists. but, you have to admit, your side really excells in being animals.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:57 pmThe main point SM is that Spitzer expose was a political hit for his invesigation of the Carlyle group……..guess that is ok with you but not me…..I suspect that illegal means were used to gather the information for this hit and that is a crime……..
March 12th, 2008 at 1:59 pmYou don’t believe Teddy was responsible for that young womans death? Then who was Arn? Bush senior maybe? That would make sense in your world.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:25 pm
well, then, time to arrest Laura Bush for murder as well.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:59 pmMy point is, it’s not just the republicans. Democrats are guilty of this as well.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:36 pm
actually, they aren’t all you have is accusations. typical liar of the rightwing liars.
March 12th, 2008 at 2:01 pmYet Republicans like Vitter and Craig don’t do the right thing. Then there’s the hard cold reality that it’s USUALLY a Republican that does this kind of thing…
Comment by republicans hate facts — March 12, 2008 @ 1:41 pm
And yet only Repugs threaten to veto over sex.
March 12th, 2008 at 2:01 pmComment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:31 pm
it wouldn’t matter. conservatives are, by nature, perverts and rapists. but, you have to admit, your side really excells in being animals.
Comment by Lefty Patriot — March 12, 2008 @ 1:57 pm
SM don’t have to admit nuttin’.
See, a long time ago, a Democrat did sumpin’ bad. That makes Republicans a-okay to do bad stuff too. ‘Cause Democrats are just as bad. Or at least they have been at one point in time.
March 12th, 2008 at 2:03 pmYou don’t believe Teddy was responsible for that young womans death? Then who was Arn? Bush senior maybe? That would make sense in your world.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:25 pm
well, then, time to arrest Laura Bush for murder as well.
Comment by Lefty Patriot
Lefty makes the point…….righties want blood if its a democrat…..look the other way if it’s a republican..
how can you say the democrats behave like that……….you can’t. Democrats will user in a new era of responsibilty and integrity…….the republicans never had it…never will……but they talked a good story.
March 12th, 2008 at 2:03 pmHow about your numbers 11-20 now? We can handle it.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — March 12, 2008 @ 1:36 pm
It still does not make them irrelevant, no matter how you try and spin it off. Some people here act as if the dems are without any shame. They have shame in their party as well as the reps, no matter how long ago it transpired.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:42 pm
The DIFFERENCE is , we hold the Dems to a standard that you GOP backers claim to be all about , yet never adhere to .
It took a Democratic governor to to admit his failing(s) in public , when there is a monumental amount more of Republican wrongdoing in the not-to-distant-past ……….And yet , those like yourself still stupidly try to defend those like Foley , Craig and Vitter ; why ?
March 12th, 2008 at 2:06 pmSM has not changed….still flying the same flag.
They just dissapear like smoke when you start holding thier feet to the fire with facts………
March 12th, 2008 at 2:08 pmsouthern idiot; if Ted Kennedy murdered, then so did Laura Bush. Where is your self-righteous indignation about that murderess?
so southern pussy; GCY! (Go Cheney Yourself!)
March 12th, 2008 at 2:08 pmlooks to me like the troll trainers would tell them to avoid the “moral high ground” threads like the plague..they always get their asses kicked by the facts.
March 12th, 2008 at 2:10 pmThe scandal comes as a blow to Hillary Clinton who was confident that she could count on the New York governor as one of her all-important superdelegates.
Comment by Tobie Tall — March 12, 2008 @ 12:54 pm
Do we know if Spitzer is still going to attend the convention as a superdelegate, or if Paterson will be given superdelegate status in his place?
March 12th, 2008 at 2:11 pmComment by Thecairngman — March 12, 2008 @ 2:08 pm
March 12th, 2008 at 2:11 pmFlagged- go away “al StonePile Presidente”
good googily, this is not a Bill Clinton thread, but I won’t let your derailment go untouched:
When President Clinton was asked if he had sexual relations with Monica, he said “no”, per definition of the Paula Jones case:
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-clintonjonesperjury.html
Exley and I have gone round and round on this.
March 12th, 2008 at 2:15 pmContempt of court, and lying under oath are not necessarily the same thing.
today’s trollshit is ssooooooooo deep, I had to put on my hip-waders.
now I may need to don my snark-waders too.
March 12th, 2008 at 2:16 pmI’m tired of hearing from people I don’t agree with, Progressive 4 Life†song under my bridge.
Comment by Southern Man
its just the same old lies that get old sm. You just don’t want to be told that you are and have been wrong. Sorry but you are on the wrong side. I doubt that you will ever wake up……oh wait…some of your ild do…..at the end of thier lives…..George Wallace for instance….
March 12th, 2008 at 2:22 pmMaybe, if we constructed a thread that covered both climate change and weiners, we could trap the trolls in amber for once and for all. They’d just stay in there, tippity-tappin away about the weiners and about the al gore until the end of time.
March 12th, 2008 at 2:22 pmFunny if you think about it sm.
You will never hear of a democrat who dedicated thier life to the progressive cause that recants or regrets at the end of thier life……
republicans do however……..wonder why?
March 12th, 2008 at 2:24 pmSorry to say I am with Exley on his take of Spitzer. Although Wall Street is not sympathetic here (obviously), there were many credible and innocent folks on Wall Street and in the mutual fund industry who got snared in Spitzer’s own winner take all, abusive prosecutorial tactics. I know firsthand his lack of prosecutorial ethics and will not jump on the PR campaign that he is some kind of saint because he allegedly cleaned up Wall Street and the financial services industry. Actually, many mutual fund shareholders (regular middle class investors) were actually harmed as a result of steamroll methods. His alleged crusade against Wall Street had nothing to do with concerns with investors, but everything to do with propelling his personal political agenda to the governorship. Good riddance. And congrats to those of you who fell for his PR.
March 12th, 2008 at 2:24 pmSee, a long time ago, a Democrat did sumpin’ bad. That makes Republicans a-okay to do bad stuff too. ‘Cause Democrats are just as bad. Or at least they have been at one point in time.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — March 12, 2008 @ 2:03 pm
Yes, you would think that the “sell by” date on Teddy’s free pass to misbehave would be long gone. Yet whenever a Republican gets caught with his pants down, all we hear from the wingnuts is “but…but…Teddy!”
Ted Kennedy didn’t exactly get a free pass from the Chappaquiddick incident. However, he has taken his lumps and has moved on. The voters of Massachusetts have returned him to the Senate SEVEN TIMES since Chappaquiddick (once defeating Mitt Romney!). They obviously want him there, but the righties have a hard time accepting this.
March 12th, 2008 at 2:25 pm#32 — I said the same thing last night. She has a certain Jennifer Anniston look. Why an accomplished person in her own right would put up with this guy is beyond me, but, of course, that’s their private business.
March 12th, 2008 at 2:26 pmsouthern pussy; you have not answered the question.
Where is your outrage of Laura Bush killing someone?
March 12th, 2008 at 2:26 pmSouthern Man is just a RACIST!! All people from the south are RACIST rednecks!! Just like all the Reich Wing Nut Cases! You damn troll go back under your bridge! Let’s hurry up with this socialist thing; I’m tired of hearing from people that I don’t agree with. Progressive for Life!!
Comment by Thecairngman — March 12, 2008 @ 2:08 pm
Um…this is a parody post — right?
March 12th, 2008 at 2:27 pmComment by Thecairngman — March 12, 2008 @ 2:26 pm
Flagged again, stonepile- no one is buying this act, peddle it somewhere else, al cairn man…
March 12th, 2008 at 2:29 pmComment by NoMoreBush
you’re just happy because you have temporarily defeated a political opponant……this was a political hit because of the governers investigation of Carlyle……they used illegal means to gather the info for the hit……domestic spying for political gain is illegal
March 12th, 2008 at 2:30 pmUm…this is a parody post — right?
Comment by missmolly — March 12, 2008 @ 2:27 pm
missmolly-
March 12th, 2008 at 2:31 pmThis is that joker who posted as a muslim a couple of weeks ago- he is a joke, but that’s no parody- I say flag him.
notice the trolls never answer your questions? They just come back with more bs that they can’t back up.
The retreat must have been intense. Wonder if they use pain for incentive…….naw, they would like that too much.
March 12th, 2008 at 2:32 pmI say flag him.
Comment by belac — March 12, 2008 @ 2:31 pm
Over and over and over again.
I’ve already flagged him twice this morning.
Flag, flag, and flag again, folks.
Time’s a-wastin’… Hup hup hup!
March 12th, 2008 at 2:33 pmBoth sides are guilty of this sh*t!!!
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 2:27 pm
And yet no calls for Vitter to resign… or Craig… how… how… partisan.
March 12th, 2008 at 2:34 pmComment by Thecairngman — March 12, 2008 @ 2:08 pm
All people from the south are not racist. Just the stupid ones, like yourself. Great post though. Where did I put that bridge? And where’s my fiddle. I can play a song to †I’m tired of hearing from people I don’t agree with, Progressive 4 Life†song under my bridge.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 2:18 pm
SM, the poster who called you a racist has established a reputation as a troll masquerading as a progressive. He’ll log on and spew all kinds of outlandish imitations of progressives speech, probably to make progressives look bad.
Sure, I know there are real posters on here who reflexively call you a racist because of your handle, and that’s not fair. But thecairngman isn’t one of ‘em.
He’s a fake.
March 12th, 2008 at 2:36 pmsm is still a troll
he will not acknowledge the huge climate of corruption usered in by the GOP in the last 7 years.
he see’s a handful of democrats behaving badly and wants it to outweigh the mountain of illegal and immoral activity of the Gop in the last 7 years.
He is so despterat to make this point that he is willing to go way back in time to make the numbers look better for the gop…..
March 12th, 2008 at 2:42 pmHe gets elected and stays out of trouble because of his party affiliation and his great name.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 2:39 pm
Yeah, Teddy’s done some unsavory things in his life and the performance you mention certainly could be spun the way you spin it.
But the fact is that Kennedy gets elected because of the work he does in the Senate for the people of Massachusetts.
And your accusation of He …stays out of trouble because of his party affiliation and his great name sounds like a damn good description of our current president, don’t ya think?
March 12th, 2008 at 2:43 pmlargely because of Teddy’s influence in and outside that courtroom. He gets elected and stays out of trouble because of his party affiliation and his great name.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 2:39 pm
largely because of Teddy’s influence in and outside that courtroom – little proof of this one, please.
***
He gets elected and stays out of trouble because of his party affiliation and his great name.
Ya mean, like Botch?
March 12th, 2008 at 2:44 pmDamn you ralph!
March 12th, 2008 at 2:44 pmsm is still a troll
He is so despterat to make this point that he is willing to go way back in time to make the numbers look better for the gop…..
Comment by Fred — March 12, 2008 @ 2:42 pm
Right you are Fred.
March 12th, 2008 at 2:45 pmOh, OK, Fred whatever you say. Everything is a conspiracy. LOL.
March 12th, 2008 at 2:47 pmDamn you ralph!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — March 12, 2008 @ 2:44 pm
hee hee hee…
March 12th, 2008 at 2:48 pmDon’t try to speak for me. You are not qualified.
Comment by good_golly — March 12, 2008 @ 2:10 pm
You finally said 1 thing that is FACT ; no one else here is retarded ………
March 12th, 2008 at 2:49 pmComment by ralph the wonder llama — March 12, 2008 @ 2:48 pm
Oooooh… so it’s funny, now, huh?
I’ll be keepin’ an eye on you (the good one, that is…), llamaboy.
March 12th, 2008 at 2:50 pmComment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 2:52 pm
I’ve only flagged him 4 times today. Feel free to join the parade.
March 12th, 2008 at 2:54 pmsm is still a troll
He is so despterat to make this point that he is willing to go way back in time to make the numbers look better for the gop…..
Comment by Fred — March 12, 2008 @ 2:42 pm
Right you are Fred.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — March 12, 2008 @ 2:45 pm
Okay, it probably won’t be a popular opinion at the moment, but I don’t count SM as a real troll anymore.
He sticks to his opinions, sure, but I don’t think he comes on just to derail threads like he used to. He seems to actually want to engage arguments at times now.
Yeah, he’ll throw some sh!t at the wall sometimes just to see what sticks and stink up the joint at the same time, but, hell, so do I. (Except my sh!t don’t stink, right?)
Anyway, I’d like to maintain some discipline in our terms here, and troll gets over-used sometimes. Most of our friends from the other side are trolls. Gigi- troll. T2 — troll. Charles Napier — troll. Cheap Bathtub Gin — nothin’ but a troll.
I’d even go so far as to say Exley is a troll. But I would give SM credit for his attempts at discourse. Same with Keltoi.
Just my opinion.
March 12th, 2008 at 2:54 pmOh, OK, Fred whatever you say. Everything is a conspiracy. LOL.
Comment by NoMoreBush
I didn’t used to be a conspiracy theorist but that has chnaged since people with your moral fiber have gained power……..
March 12th, 2008 at 2:57 pmY’know what? Spitzer should’ve just come up with a story about “penetrating” that ring of prostitutes to uncover their connections to Al Qaeda, and that he was doing it to “save american lives” – then this whole thing would’ve blown right over and he could keep on governoring and banging pro’s all the live-long day.
After all, it’s not a lie, or a crime, if it’s committed in service of the Cheerleader’s Glorious GWoT.
March 12th, 2008 at 2:57 pm203 – nuthin’ but a T-thang ?
T U-nit !!
March 12th, 2008 at 3:02 pm#205 — hold the phone. Who the hell are you to talk about my moral fiber. You don’t even know who I am or that I am not even a gooper. Never voted for a Republican in my life. Also, would you like to prove some of your more reckless allegations here, such as (i) it was a political hit; (ii) illegal wire taps were used; (iii) Spitzer was investigating Carlyle Group.
Waiting while the crickets chirp. See in the world of the law where I work, you actually have to prove your allegations, not pull them out of your arse. Furthermore, spare me your moral fiber bs. In your simplistic world, I suppose people lack moral fiber because we disagree with you. Well thank you very much, that I disagree with your simpleton views, means that I have substance and not participating in an echo chamber. Enjoy your simplistic little conclusions, loser.
March 12th, 2008 at 3:04 pmsm is still a troll
Comment by Fred — March 12, 2008 @ 2:42 pm
Okay, it probably won’t be a popular opinion at the moment, but I don’t count SM as a real troll anymore.
Just my opinion.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama
I thought so too Ralph…..my obersvation was directed mostly at SM who has said he doesn’t consider himself to be a troll. My judgment was based only on his perfomance in this thread today…….time will tell.
March 12th, 2008 at 3:09 pmI see what you’re saying, Fred, but I’m willing to cut SM some slack.
Maybe it’s just because I wish there were more conservatives here who would stand up for their beliefs and make solid arguments for them, instead of Clinton Did Itâ„¢ all the time.
March 12th, 2008 at 3:14 pmI’d cut old Dixie some more slack too, if he’d own up to his citizenship.
When it’s handy to be southern, he’s from nola,
and when it’s inconvenient to be southern, he’s from “South Jersey”
otherwise, not somebody I’d put in the same basket with gg et al.
March 12th, 2008 at 3:19 pm#204 – “Besides there being reason, politics are tit-fer-tat. You got ours, were gonna get yours.” Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 2:57 pm
Well, wasn’t the Pres. Clinton the “tat” for the Pres. Nixon “tit”?
I always thought the main reason the Republicans hounded Pres. Clinton for as long as they did was because he was so popular and they wanted to “get the Dems back’ for Pres. Nixon resigning when he was caught breaking the law.
March 12th, 2008 at 3:19 pmComment by NoMoreBush
in the world of law where you work as a copy boy maybe.
March 12th, 2008 at 3:20 pmOkay, it probably won’t be a popular opinion at the moment, but I don’t count SM as a real troll anymore.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — March 12, 2008 @ 2:54 pm
I’d be lyin’ if I said I didn’t like playin’ Whack-a-Trollâ„¢, ralph. I don’t like a lot of what SM says, but I don’t flag him the way I flagged Bert Convey or cairgnman. Trolling is a strange phenomenon as far as I can tell and I’m not quite sure what it’s about.
I usually only flag someone, like the above mentioned twits, when I’m sure they’re ONLY here to flat out screw w/ folks heads. Some trolls, like SM, keltoi, Ex-lax, & g_g, can be annoyingas hell, but they don’t flat out drive me up the wall the way Bert did.
I was here during Mr P’s meth rampages and that one was destroying the place. Free speech is a strange thing.
March 12th, 2008 at 3:24 pmmake solid arguments for them, instead of Clinton Did Itâ„¢ all the time.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — March 12, 2008 @ 3:14 pm
Real arguments are okay, ralph. We just SOOOOO rarely get ‘em here.
And I have to admit… I just like snarkin’ around here, at times.
March 12th, 2008 at 3:26 pmI’m with ya, TRoS.
March 12th, 2008 at 3:27 pmI admit, I don’t flag SM anymore either…
March 12th, 2008 at 3:30 pm#190 – “He gets elected and stays out of trouble because of his party affiliation and his great name.” Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 2:39 pm
So, does the “Vitter” name give similar type protection to Sen. Vitter?
Not that he raped anyone, but the man did confess that he visited prostitutes. Why does Gov. Spitzer have to resign with Republicans calling for his impeachment, while Sen. Vitter gets a free pass?
March 12th, 2008 at 3:32 pmWow, Southie – am I supposed to be crushed because you sussed out that I ….*gasp!!* know about blow jobs…?
What are you – a third grader? Annie said “blow job”!! Annie said “blow job”! Neener, neener, neener!!
Idiot.
March 12th, 2008 at 3:33 pm#213
Still waiting for the proof of your allegations, loser.
March 12th, 2008 at 4:04 pmHas Spitzer been arrested yet?
How do these politicians get away with it? If any of us were caught going to prostitutes, there would be no question that we would get arrested.
Not Spitzer. Not Vitter. The only reason Larry Craig got arrested is because they didn’t know he was a Senator.
March 12th, 2008 at 4:07 pm222 – Again: are you a third grader?
Idiot.
March 12th, 2008 at 4:18 pmComment by Thecairngman — March 12, 2008 @ 4:01 pm
No one’s buying it, stone pile. Might as well pack it in, change your handle again.
‘Course, your act is so obvious that it won’t take us long to spot you then, either.
March 12th, 2008 at 4:21 pmI am here to learn.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 4:36 pm
So when you start doing that — learning?
If you’ve already started, what have you learned here?
March 12th, 2008 at 8:26 pmComment by jackball — March 13, 2008 @ 12:40 am
He certainly help make it easy on Coulter. This is some of her best work.
March 13th, 2008 at 4:17 pm