Spitzer resigns as New York governor.
Today, Eliot Spitzer announced that he is stepping down as governor of New York state, after his involvement in a high-end prostitution ring was revealed earlier this week. His resignation will be effective on March 17. Watch it:
Lt. Gov. David Paterson will now take Spitzer’s position, becoming the state’s first African-American and blind governor, and only the third African-American governor since Reconstruction.
UPDATE: Lt. Gov. David Paterson has put out a statement:
Like all New Yorkers I am saddened by what we have learned over the past several days. On a personal level Governor Spitzer and Silda have been close and steadfast friends. As an elected official the Governor has worked hard for the people of New York.
My heart goes out to him and to his family at this difficult and painful time. I ask all New Yorkers to join Michelle and me in prayer for them.
It is now time for Albany to get back to work as the people of this state expect from us.
Transcript:
SPITZER: In the past few days I have begun to atone for my private failings with my wife Silda, my children and my entire family. The remorse I feel will also be with me. Words cannot describe how grateful I am for the love and compassion they have shown me.
From those to whom much is given, much is expected. I have been given much: the love of my family, the faith and trust of the people of New York, and the chance to lead this state. I am deeply sorry that I did not live up to what was expected of me.
To every New Yorker, and to all those who believed in what I tried to stand for, I sincerely apologize.
I look at my time as governor with a sense of what might have been. But I also know that as a public servant, I and the remarkable people with whom I work have accomplished a great deal.
There is much more to be done, and I cannot allow my private failings to disrupt the people’s work.
Over the course of my public life I have insisted — I believe correctly — that people, regardless of their position or power, take responsibility for their conduct. I can and will ask no less of myself.
For this reason, I am resigning from the office of governor. At Lieutenant Governor Paterson’s request, the resignation will be effective Monday, March 17, a date that he believes will permit an orderly transition.
I go forward with the belief, as others have said, that as human beings our greatest glory consists not in never falling, but in rising every time that we fall.
As I leave public life, I will first do what I need to do to help and heal myself and my family. Then I will try once again, outside of politics, to serve the common good and to move toward the ideals and solutions which I believe can build a future of hope and opportunity for us and for our children.
I hope all of New York will join my prayers for my friend David Paterson as he embarks on his new mission. And I thank the public once again for their privilege of service.
Thank you very much.
Perhaps Mr. Paterson can raise awareness Nationally about the plight persons with disabilities are in.
Is Ferraro complaining about this, too?
And how about that Senator from NY?
March 12th, 2008 at 11:49 amThis is a man who goes after prostitution operations like a pit bull while privately patronizing them. I shed no tears for this hypocrite.
However, I DO notice that in our political system, sexual misdeeds still seem to be far graver than abusing the power of one’s office.
March 12th, 2008 at 11:50 amAs an upstate New Yorker I have to say I’m sad. A very intelligent man, even his resignation speech was well crafted and sounded sincere…and yet he fails us with his hypocrisy. We expected so much more from him when we voted him in…
March 12th, 2008 at 11:52 amSo when are the ‘bring back integrity’ folks going to ask for Vitters and Craigs resignation?
March 12th, 2008 at 11:52 amXisithrus — March 12, 2008 @ 11:52 am
Republics don’t resign, they just slither away to the nearest stall
March 12th, 2008 at 11:54 amToday will warm the hearts of people with disabilities and their advocates.
Congratulations, Governor Patterson!
March 12th, 2008 at 11:54 amSure, maybe it was under pressure, but he did have the cojones to do the right thing and step down.
Pardon me if I don’t hold my breath for the disgraced Republicans (!) to do the same….
March 12th, 2008 at 11:56 amThank you TP for finally saying he was “involved” with prostitutes, not “linked to a prostitution ring”. Why is it that Republicans are involved with prostitutes, but Democrats are “linked” to prostitution rings?
March 12th, 2008 at 11:57 amYeah, where’s the resignation speeches from Vitter and Craig et al??
March 12th, 2008 at 11:58 amI do feel sorry for Spitzer. He was a brilliant attorney and did much to control the worst impulses of Wall Street. Should he have resigned? Yes, his hypocrisy should cost him his job. But why should we have no sympathy for the man. He did a lot of good, had a lot of promise and now has been held up to public ridicule and lost all that great promise life had in store for him. I may not approve of his actions but one problem we have in the US is this feeling that if you fail, you deserve no compassion. This leads to the kind of winner take all philosophy that feeds many Wall Street and corporate executives. We see it in those who oppose any social safety net or gloat over those who were victims of subprime mortgages (while Wall Street gets bailed out.) Maybe it is time to have empathy for others. Yes, Spitzer deserves his just deserts and they will be bitter. However, the glee that we see from many sickens me.
March 12th, 2008 at 11:58 amWe progressives don’t cotton to misdeeds, unlike the repukes who thrive on immoral, criminal activities.
Buck Hussein Fush
March 12th, 2008 at 11:59 amWonder if Spitzer wishes he was a Republican? In that case, the FBI would have completed ignored his actions, and even if he was found out, he certainly would not need to resign. Just ask David Vitter and Larry Craig.
March 12th, 2008 at 11:59 amVitter and Craig should follow his example.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:01 pmBig mistake. The NY State Republicans threatened to impeach. You really have to call them on that bluff and put the word “Impeachment” on the front cover of the papers. Force the GOP to keep impeachment in people’s minds as this country’s biggest political criminals plot to start WWIII against the will of the American people.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:02 pmHubris…
March 12th, 2008 at 12:04 pm“You know, Lt. Gov. Patterson wouldn’t be where he is if he was a white, fully sighted male. And if Spitzer wasn’t a horndog.”
-Geraldine Hussein McBillary Ferraro
March 12th, 2008 at 12:06 pmComment by curmudgeon — March 12, 2008 @ 11:59 am
…or if he was a televangelist tearfully appearing on TV saying how he had sinned against Jeebus…
March 12th, 2008 at 12:07 pmHe has always been a bullying, arrogant, corrupt hypocrite….Good riddance. He will not be missed….The State of New York is an infinitely better place with him out of office.
I realize, of course, that one is not supposed to take pleasure in the problems of others, but I must admit seeing this man, who became governor on the backs of people he harassed and intimidated and coerced by abusing his prosecutorial discretion as AG is a delight.
The rogue prosecutor now facing prosecution — Fantastic.
I never voted for him — either for AG or governor. Vindication is sweet.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:08 pmIf he was a reich-winger, he would be employed at faux by this evening.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:08 pmComment by Rodham Gin — March 12, 2008 @ 12:04 pm
Eliminate? He screwed up and resigned. What comment did Obama make or what influence did Obama have in forcing Spitzer to resign?
The people of NY have spoken, Spitzer is out.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:09 pmSee what happens when you are a public figure and take on Big Money in this country? If you protect the interests of the large corporations, you can get by with everything and if you cross them, you get by with nothing.
Aren’t we fortunate that the FBI’s resources and wiretapping activities are being used in this manner to “protect us” from evil?
Mega-contributions to Bush & Company will surely be flowing soon, for their focusing of the FBI’s efforts on Spitzer.
Although there was supposedly some question as to whether sufficient funding for the Bush Pwesidential Libwawy would be forthcoming, that should no longer be a problem.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:10 pmComment by Exley — March 12, 2008 @ 12:08 pm
And Rove has done the same with the DOJ, yet that doesnt raise a flag to your ethics?
March 12th, 2008 at 12:11 pmI liked Spitzer, I thought he did a lot of GREAT things, but in the end, he was dumber than a box of rocks. I don’t mind the glee from the other side, it goes with the territory. We certainly had our fun with, Craig,Vittner,Foley,et al.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:12 pmVindication is sweet. Comment by Exley — March 12, 2008 @ 12:08 pm
Now, perhaps, all you trolls will finally start to understand why many of us here have long been calling for prosecution of the war criminals in our various governmental entities, particularly in the Executive branch of our federal government, instead of always just going after the sex criminals…
March 12th, 2008 at 12:13 pmOnce again, Exley is on the “winning” team.
Hey, how’s that Romney campaign going? I bet you’re loving the fact that McCain is your man now.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:13 pmI wish Spitzer and his family a full recovery from all of this and nothing but the best.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:14 pmSpitzer most certainly could not have been the only public figure who patronized this call girl service. Who are the others?
March 12th, 2008 at 12:14 pmVindication is indeed sweet…..liberals have been proclaiming since Day 1 that herr dubyah is a complete and utter failure and he will destroy this country from within. Vindication is sweet…..we were correct.
Now, reich-wingers will be a permanent minority. Vindication is sweet.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:16 pmI have sympathy for Spitzer personally, I think prostitution should be legal and regulated, but he did the right thing in resigning. He had lost his credibility to govern. He had betrayed the trust of the people of New York.
On a lesser note, I also have sympathy for Gigi. She no longer gets to use her newest favorite talking point “Superdelegate #9″.
Poor Gigi. Such a great talking point, gone before its time.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:16 pmWhere are those emails that Rove sent? All of those emails of “official” govt. business and the ones that were sent thru the RNC? This makes a $4,300 BJ seem like small potatoes.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:16 pmStrangely, in the stills from the press conference, his wife looks A LOT like an older Jennifer Aniston.
I might want to hold on to that too, if I was him.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:17 pmToday will warm the hearts of people with disabilities and their advocates.
Congratulations, Governor Patterson! -McWars
Agreed. I’ve spent the last 33 yrs advocating, supporting and developing employment for persons with disabilities.
Having Gov. Paterson in the news will only help non-disabled people gain awareness of how abled people with disabilities are.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:17 pmWhere are those emails that Rove sent? All of those emails of “official†govt. business and the ones that were sent thru the RNC? This makes a $4,300 BJ seem like small potatoes.
Comment by hellinabucket — March 12, 2008 @ 12:16 pm
If Spitzer spent $4300 and only got a BJ, he’s too stupid to govern anyway.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:17 pmWall Street is no doubt happy. I heard that when the news about Spitz’s indiscretions broke, there was a collective cheer on the floor of the NYSE.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:20 pmIf Spitzer spent $4300 and only got a BJ, he’s too stupid to govern anyway. -ralph the wonder llama
I’ve never paid for sex, but for $4,300, I’d want the ‘full meal deal’…
March 12th, 2008 at 12:20 pmAnd Obama is grinnin’ from ear to ear. Eliminate the Govenor of one of the largest states who just happened to endorse Hillary, and was a super delegate, and replace him with one that endorses Obama. Who’s next?
Oh wow. Who would have thunk it that one super delegate stands between Obama and the nomination.
As usual, this idiot troll has nothing to say.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:21 pmComment by ralph the wonder llama — March 12, 2008 @ 12:16 pm
Completely agreed. In my own mind, I actually condemn marital infidelity more than I condemn prostitution. Just root out out the STD transmission.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:21 pmComment by Bilbo Hussein Baggins — March 12, 2008 @ 12:21 pm
If Barack makes it to a 200-point lead over Clinton, Clinton will officially offer Obama the VP spot!
March 12th, 2008 at 12:22 pmZooey,
Were you under the impression that I was a Romney supporter during the primaries? If so, I am unsure where you got that idea.
What we all do recall during the early days of the primaries was my correct assertion on the night of the Iowa caucuses that John Edwards was done…And I recall you vehemently denying that…..How is that Edwards campaign doing, Zooey?
In any case, it is a happy day in the great state of New York!
March 12th, 2008 at 12:24 pmSpitzer most certainly could not have been the only public figure who patronized this call girl service. Who are the others?
Comment by curmudgeon
They all have (R) after their name so they are getting a pass.
Come on Larry Flint. Now is the time for you to release your list.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:24 pmWall Street is no doubt happy. I heard that when the news about Spitz’s indiscretions broke, there was a collective cheer on the floor of the NYSE.
Comment by Uncle Ho — March 12, 2008 @ 12:20 pm
Exactly.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:24 pmWhy do they keep using, “his involvement in a high-end prostitution ring” in stories about this guy as if he was running the ring instead of just paying for some sex?
And isn’t it ironic that the repugs in his his state were threatening impeachment and yet repugs nationally sit on their asses and do nothing about the chimp.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:24 pmCome on Larry Flint. Now is the time for you to release your list.
AMEN!!!
March 12th, 2008 at 12:25 pmI guess this shows that the hypocrisy of politician-ethicists–who remain deviants in private–is blind to party lines.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:25 pmAnd isn’t it ironic that the repugs in his his state were threatening impeachment and yet repugs nationally sit on their asses and do nothing about the chimp.
And that is why he should not resign. If I’m Spitzer I say OK so I’m going to go anyway. Let’s hear the word impeachment thrown around by Republicans yet again over someone diddling around.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:26 pmThe first black governor of NY.
Next, Obama will be the first black PRESIDENT of the USA.
The Nazis, like my dad’s wife, are SKEERED!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
March 12th, 2008 at 12:26 pmBy all reports Spitz has been pulling this stunt for years. Interstate prostitution usually has ties to the mob. Obama has ties to the Chicago mob(Antoin “Tony†Rezko ). Rezko is under pressure from the feds, gives up info that might help his buddy Obama. Follow the money.
Wow, talk about circular logic. This one made my head spin. This troll is without a doubt the stupidest one to come along in a while.
Keep on dreaming troll. If that’s what floats your boat, keep it up. You are, though, in for a rude awakening in November.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:27 pmIn any case, it is a happy day in the great state of New York!
Comment by Exley — March 12, 2008 @ 12:24 pm
And on Wall Street.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:29 pm“Wall Street is no doubt happy.”
True enough!
‘March 11, 2008 — Cheers erupted on trading floors around the city yesterday as word spread of the stunning downfall of Gov. Spitzer - who spent most of his term as attorney general torturing Wall Street with his witch hunt for financial wrongdoing.
An employee of a major investment bank, who requested anonymity, said the company chef had been instructed to break out bottles of champagne so that the staff could party and swap jokes about “client No. 9.”
Meanwhile, at another giant firm, Merrill Lynch, “everyone broke into cheering on the trading floor,” an employee said.’
But not just Lower Manhattan…ALL of New York is happy today!
March 12th, 2008 at 12:30 pmAs soon as Ted Kennedy resigns…thirty years later.
Wow, one Democrat is involved in a scandal and that excuses the wrong-doing of all Republicans for the next 30-40 years.
I’m willing to bet that if you combined the IQ’s of all the trolls on this site it still wouldn’t be enough for them to qualify for Mensa membership.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:31 pmGood. He did the right thing. NOW…can we PLEASE stop talking about this?!? There are FAR more important issues going on in the world!
March 12th, 2008 at 12:31 pmBut not just Lower Manhattan…ALL of New York is happy today!
Comment by Exley — March 12, 2008 @ 12:30 pm
Now all we need is the Chimpy administration to resign , and the whole planet would be elated ……………..
March 12th, 2008 at 12:32 pmBut not just Lower Manhattan…ALL of New York is happy today!
All of the Republiscums in New York are happy today. I think that the Democrats are mostly sad.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:32 pmSo when are the ‘bring back integrity’ folks going to ask for Vitters and Craigs resignation?
Comment by Xisithrus — March 12, 2008 @ 11:52 am
As soon as Ted Kennedy resigns…thirty years later.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 12:27 pm
Kennedy did NOTHING WRONG.
NEVER charged with a crime.
Vitter ADMITTED his diaper/dildo affairs.
Larry Craig pleaded GUILTY.
Your HYPOCRISY, and that of your fellow RapeubliNazis, is NOTED in this building…
You LOVE the TREASON of the Bush WAR CR(MINALS, and you HATE the TRUTH and the FREEDOM of Americans
March 12th, 2008 at 12:32 pmSo when are the ‘bring back integrity’ folks going to ask for Vitters and Craigs resignation?
Comment by Xisithrus — March 12, 2008 @ 11:52 am
As soon as Ted Kennedy resigns…thirty years later.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 12:27 pm
How come 1 Democratic politician does the correct thing and steps down , and you morons who back the party of “family values” and “personal responsibility” , still excuse-make for those in the garbage GOP who don’t follow that edict ?
March 12th, 2008 at 12:35 pmHow come 1 Democratic politician does the correct thing and steps down , and you morons who back the party of “family values†and “personal responsibility†, still excuse-make for those in the garbage GOP who don’t follow that edict ?
Comment by MCMetal — March 12, 2008 @ 12:35 pm
IOKIYAR.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:37 pmBut not just Lower Manhattan…ALL of New York is happy today!
Comment by Exley — March 12, 2008 @ 12:30 pm
Now all we need is the Chimpy administration to resign , and the whole planet would be elated ……………..
Comment by MCMetal — March 12, 2008 @ 12:32 pm
Personally, I will be CELEBRATING when that little COXUCKER punk of an unamerikkkan TRAITOR, GW Bush, DROPS DEAD.
And goes to join TRAITOR Ronnie Reagan, already DEAD and BURNING for ETERNITY.
The WORLD will celebrate as well!!
March 12th, 2008 at 12:37 pmWhy do they keep using, “his involvement in a high-end prostitution ring†in stories about this guy as if he was running the ring instead of just paying for some sex?
Comment by TheRadicalRightisRadicallyWrong — March 12, 2008 @ 12:24 pm
It’s true that the media implied more sensation than there really was by phrasing their teasers that way. It’s a little like saying that I “am involved” with McDonald’s when I go in there to buy a Big Mac.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:37 pmIf Spitzer spent $4300 and only got a BJ, he’s too stupid to govern anyway.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — March 12, 2008 @ 12:17 pm
Priceless!!!
I can’t think of any singular act or combination of the most exotic acts that is worth that kind of money! ;)
March 12th, 2008 at 12:38 pmALL of New York is happy today!
Comment by Exley — March 12, 2008 @ 12:30 pm
Can’t imagine that’s true, but t’anks fer playin’, Ex-lax.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:42 pmsexual misdeeds still seem to be far graver than abusing the power of one’s office.
Comment by missmolly — March 12, 2008 @ 11:50 am
Or getting 100s of thousands of people killed over lies…
March 12th, 2008 at 12:42 pmA couple of things I’d like to point out, and then vent.
1) As Missmolly says in post 2, he’s a hypocrite. He deserves to resign. I don’t follow NY politics, but, even agreeing with Exley here, good riddance.
2) Do notice that in his apology, he states that it is “his failings”. NOT his wife’s, our societies, or anything/anyone else. He took responsibility. Good show.
Now the vent:
March 12th, 2008 at 12:42 pmAs I walked to a local hot dog restaurant for lunch, a headline from the USAToday was practically screaming at me… “What makes a man of power cheat”, and then goes on to list Bill Clinton, Newt Gingrich, Kobe Bryant, as well as a few celebrities. Every single media outlet is now on the questioning a man’s fidelity. Newsweek, yahoo, Time, hell, even the quack Dr. Laura was interviewed (which by the way was a fun thread).
Where were the headlines of “What makes a distinguished husband and family man toe tap in a restroom stall known for it’s anonymous gay sex?” or “Why do congressmen abuse their power and solicit sex with young male interns?” Where was the outrage? Where were the continuous quack doctors making their rounds on all media stations? Why could Vitter, Craig, et al. be practically swept under the rug, yet Spitzer is making headline after headline after headline?
Liberal media, my A$$!
I watched the news resport on the resignation and Spitz’s wife looks at him like she wants to kick his ass, again. Wow.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:43 pmIt’s true that the media implied more sensation than there really was by phrasing their teasers that way.
Comment by missmolly — March 12, 2008 @ 12:37 pm
It’s not just the “media” it’s this site. I cut that out of the article above… WTF?
It’s exactly lie saying one is linked to McD’s because they have lunch there once in a while. No, they are customers, infrequent customers at that!
March 12th, 2008 at 12:48 pmI’ll be the last one surprised when Obama’s 1st official act is to issue a full Presidential pardon for Rezko, pay back you know.
Comment by Rodham Gin — March 12, 2008 @ 12:48 pm
What an absurd comment. Please try harder.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:49 pmIf Spitzer spent $4300 and only got a BJ, he’s too stupid to govern anyway.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — March 12, 2008 @ 12:17 pm
For that type of cash, there better be guaranteed “oral gratification” every day of the year, involving 2 prostitutes! Oh, and box seats for the World Series.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:49 pmJust sayin….
The alleged procurer in a prostitution scandal surrounding New York Governor Eliot Spitzer has been denied bail for his Israeli origins.
The 62-year-old Mark Michael Brener has been a US citizen for two decades and was denied bail following his arrest over claims that he ran the Emperors VIP Club, described by the police as a high-priced prostitution ring.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:50 pmWow.
Comment by Wayne — March 12, 2008 @ 12:43 pm
Can’t… fault… her for that, huh?
Elliot musta bin lettin’ the little head do the thinkin’…
March 12th, 2008 at 12:50 pmMark Michael Brener has been a US citizen for two decades and was denied bail following his arrest over claims that he ran the Emperors VIP Club,
According to The Associated Press, Brener was denied bail because he had in his possession $600,000 in cash and an Israeli passport which may allow him to escape from the country if released.
The White House alleges that Brener had been catering for high-ranking politicians and entrepreneurs from around the world.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:52 pmWhere was the outrage?
Liberal media, my A$$!
Comment by DRxJ — March 12, 2008 @ 12:42 pm
Well, in our defense, we were relentlessly snarky here at TP…
March 12th, 2008 at 12:52 pmLiberal media, my A$$!
Comment by DRxJ — March 12, 2008 @ 12:42 pm
Puppets on a string, eh?
March 12th, 2008 at 12:52 pm-Geraldine Hussein McBillary Ferraro
Comment by The Dogfather — March 12, 2008 @ 12:06 pm
Good one, Dogfather…
March 12th, 2008 at 12:54 pmThe scandal comes as a blow to Hillary Clinton who was confident that she could count on the New York governor as one of her all-important superdelegates.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:54 pmImpeachment, Is Now Only for Democrats and Only for Sex
March 12th, 2008 at 12:55 pmAn article by Eliot Spitzer about predatory lending, and BushCo’s facilitation thereof:
How the Bush administration stopped the states from stepping in to help consumers.
Several years ago, state attorneys general and others involved in consumer protection began to notice a marked increase in a range of predatory lending practices by mortgage lenders. Some were misrepresenting the terms of loans, making loans without regard to consumers’ ability to repay, making loans with deceptive “teaser” rates that later ballooned astronomically, packing loans with undisclosed charges and fees, or even paying illegal kickbacks. These and other practices, we noticed, were having a devastating effect on home buyers. In addition, the widespread nature of these practices, if left unchecked, threatened our financial markets.
Even though predatory lending was becoming a national problem, the Bush administration looked the other way and did nothing to protect American homeowners. In fact, the government chose instead to align itself with the banks that were victimizing consumers.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:56 pmAccording to The Associated Press, Brener was denied bail because he had in his possession $600,000 in cash and an Israeli passport which may allow him to escape from the country if released.
The White House alleges that Brener had been catering for high-ranking politicians and entrepreneurs from around the world.
Comment by Tobie Tall — March 12, 2008 @ 12:52 pm
One little clarification… being caught w/ $600,000 cash is prolly enough reason to get yer butt tossed in the can. Having a foreign passport definitely makes it worse, but this doesn’t add up “denied bail because of his Israeli origins”.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:57 pmComment by Rodham Gin — March 12, 2008 @ 12:48 pm
Actually, that’ll be President Obama’s third official act, following: (1) issuing an Executive Order rendering null and void all of the Executive Orders and signing statements issued by Dumbya over the preceding 8 years; and (2) signing off on a Justice Department investigation of the war crimes committed by the Dumbya administration over the preceding 8 years.
After those two, then he’ll think about your little hissy-fit talking point thingy…and two seconds later, he’ll move on to restoring our democracy without fulfilling your hallucinations…
March 12th, 2008 at 12:57 pmLiberal media, my A$$!
Comment by DRxJ — March 12, 2008 @ 12:42 pm
Ain’t it wonderful!
“Cheap Rotgut Ginâ€
Comment by Rotgut Gin — March 12, 2008 @ 12:50 pm
Well, I guess it’s official — the myth of the “liberal media” is officially dead.
Even troll Cheap Bathtub Gin agrees. The media is officially right-wing.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:58 pmPuppets on a string, eh?
Comment by Zooey — March 12, 2008 @ 12:52 pm
And for the GOOPers in the audience, puppets on a G-string, ta boot!
March 12th, 2008 at 12:59 pmComment by Rodham Gin — March 12, 2008 @ 12:48 pm
What an absurd comment. Please try harder.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — March 12, 2008 @ 12:49 pm
Have to be specific with these trolls, TROS
Now Gen will be trying harder to be absurd, lol
March 12th, 2008 at 1:00 pmTobie Tall,
March 12th, 2008 at 1:00 pmGood call.
Outing a CIA agent, misleading the world into an “occupation”, illegal wire-tappings: GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY!
Over paying for a lil hummer: IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH!
#66 Hey DRxJ,
How are you?
Gotta quibble with you on one thing…The ex-governor (Hehehehe…I love the sound of that (Yeah, I know it is not official until Monday) said his “PRIVATE failings…”
Uh, no, Eliot…Money laundering, financial structuring for an illegal activity, solicitation, trafficking in prostitution are crimes against the public….He can try to couch his activities as a “private failing” all he want. I doubt the U.S. Attorney will agree….
Trying to arrange a visit to Comerica Park this summer….
March 12th, 2008 at 1:04 pmNow Gen will be trying harder to be absurd, lol
Comment by Wayne — March 12, 2008 @ 1:00 pm
Sorry… my bad.
“Plese try harder to say something meaningful and relevant…”
March 12th, 2008 at 1:04 pmALL of New York is happy today!
Comment by Exley — March 12, 2008 @ 12:30 pm
good for you, ex-lax. you should celebrate by sitting down and writing out a big ($2300.00 is the legal limit i believe) check to help republican candidates get elected. send it to these guys:
http://www.nytimes.com/ 2008/ 03/ 06/ washington/ 06gop.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
tell your friends.
if you have any.
*
March 12th, 2008 at 1:05 pmAnd for the GOOPers in the audience, puppets on a G-string, ta boot!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — March 12, 2008 @ 12:59 pm
Ew.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:06 pmSorry, Z. Hope yer breakfast stayed put.
In other news, time to start flagging another one folks.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:15 pmCome on Larry Flint. Now is the time for you to release your list.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:16 pmAMEN!!!
Comment by lefty — March 12, 2008 @ 12:25 pm
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I’ve got nothing against porn, but it’s really really sad that we have to rely on a smut peddler to reveal the corruption and depravity of the leadership of this country.
Exley,
That’s why I posted that I don’t follow NY politics! I just took his apology as his failings of infidelity.
BTW, let me know when/if you snag tix. If it’s a weekend game, I can make the two hour drive and join ya. I’ll even buy you a gawd awful expensive 40 ounce Labatt, which usually becomes luke warm half way through drinking it!
March 12th, 2008 at 1:17 pmSo when are the ‘bring back integrity’ folks going to ask for Vitters and Craigs resignation?
Comment by Xisithrus — March 12, 2008 @ 11:52 am
As soon as Ted Kennedy resigns…thirty years later.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 12:27 pm
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Is your Gold Standard of virtue really tied to Ted Kennedy?
March 12th, 2008 at 1:18 pmThat’s my top ten favorite Bilbo. Politicians are sick by nature, on both sides.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:15 pm
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Do you have a top ten from this milleneum?
March 12th, 2008 at 1:20 pmThat’s my top ten favorite Bilbo. Politicians are sick by nature, on both sides.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:15 pm
wayne hays?
how about andrew jackson and rachel donelson robards?
man you are old!
:)
March 12th, 2008 at 1:21 pmHi, Gigi. I wanted to tell you how sorry I am that your favorite talking point, “Superdelegate #9″ was euthanized by Gov. Spitzer this morning.
I know this must be a difficult time for you. I know you were counting on riding the “Superdelegate #9″ horse all the way to the convention.
Where should we send flowers?
March 12th, 2008 at 1:22 pmDo you have a top ten from this milleneum?
Comment by deebaser — March 12, 2008 @ 1:20 pm
Right, deebaser. I noticed the same thing.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:22 pmThose are key issues to be further explored in the ongoing investigation.
Comment by good_golly — March 12, 2008 @ 1:18 pm
Infer much?
March 12th, 2008 at 1:23 pm#96 DRxJ,
Sounds good…If I can actually pull this thing off and get to Comerica, let’s work something out and watch a game….Of course, I extend the same invitation to you if you in the Mid-Atlantic part of the country and you want to take in a game in NY, Philly, Baltimore or DC….
March 12th, 2008 at 1:24 pmThat’s my top ten favorite Bilbo. Politicians are sick by nature, on both sides.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:15 pm
Your pathetic list contains examples that are ALL OVER a decade-and-a-half old , nitwit ; got anything from this century , you ignorant rube ?
March 12th, 2008 at 1:25 pmAn employee of a major investment bank, who requested anonymity, said the company chef had been instructed to break out bottles of champagne so that the staff could party and swap jokes about “client No. 9.â€
Meanwhile, at another giant firm, Merrill Lynch, “everyone broke into cheering on the trading floor,†an employee said.’
But not just Lower Manhattan…ALL of New York is happy today!
Comment by Exley — March 12, 2008 @ 12:30 pm
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Not hardly. I’m sure people that were rightfully brought down a few notches are celebrating, but that really isn’t representative of “all of New York”
Dee_Uppereastsider
March 12th, 2008 at 1:25 pmComment by good_golly — March 12, 2008 @ 1:18 pm
you may be right gg! could be a key money laundering link here:
http://www.nytimes.com/ 2008/ 03/ 06/ washington/ 06gop.html
stay on top of these issues for us, ok?
even if you have to miss a few baseball games!
March 12th, 2008 at 1:26 pmThat’s my top ten favorite Bilbo. Politicians are sick by nature, on both sides.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:15 pm
Niiice. 30-year-old scandals are always the best. Moldy oldies.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:26 pmComment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:15 pm
here’s a tip for ya. when you spit out your tobacco juice use a paper cup.
;)
March 12th, 2008 at 1:28 pmKennedy did NOTHING WRONG.
NEVER charged with a crime.
Vitter ADMITTED his diaper/dildo affairs.
Larry Craig pleaded GUILTY.
Your HYPOCRISY, and that of your fellow RapeubliNazis, is NOTED in this building…
You LOVE the TREASON of the Bush WAR CR(MINALS, and you HATE the TRUTH and the FREEDOM of Americans
Comment by Arn Gunnutes — March 12, 2008 @ 12:32 pm
You don’t believe Teddy was responsible for that young womans death? Then who was Arn? Bush senior maybe? That would make sense in your world.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:25 pm
How many deaths has Chimpy the Wonder Monkey been responsible for , Southern Spam ?
March 12th, 2008 at 1:28 pmNiiice. 30-year-old scandals are always the best. Moldy oldies.
Comment by gummitch — March 12, 2008 @ 1:26 pm
he’s an old feller, ain’t ya southie?
March 12th, 2008 at 1:29 pmHeh. All the hysterical whinging, fainting and browbeating from the Repukes would be PERFECT for an old timey stage melodrama. Someone fetch the smelling salts - QUICK!!
*eyeroll*
March 12th, 2008 at 1:29 pmComment by joe cantwell — March 12, 2008 @ 1:28 pm
Naaah, joe. That one likes ta swallow…
March 12th, 2008 at 1:30 pmjoe cantwell rises an excellent point about Southern Man’s “top ten list”.
Let’s examine the dates of SM’s faves:
10: vague “1990s”
9. fondling in 1989
8. vote to censure in 1990. Offense occurred in 1988 and wasn’t Frank’s action.
7. 1988
6. 1978
5. 1976
4. also 1976
3. 1994
2. 1969
1. 1996
REally, SM? That’s the very best you can do? The most recent of these incidents is a dozen years old. Almost half of them occurred before Reagan was inaugurated.
If that’s the best you can do, it would seem that Democrats have settled down quite a bit over the past 40 years.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:30 pmNiiice. 30-year-old scandals are always the best. Moldy oldies.
Comment by gummitch — March 12, 2008 @ 1:26 pm
he’s an old feller, ain’t ya southie?
Comment by joe cantwell — March 12, 2008 @ 1:29 pm
I don’t have a problem with the elderly ……………Only with the (willfully) ignorant and stupid.
Excrement , Goof_Jelly and Southern Spam are definitely prime examples ………..
March 12th, 2008 at 1:31 pmCongratulations to Mr. Spitzer on demonstrating how to handle these situations. Republicans would do well to follow his example.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:33 pmAwakening? I’ll be the last one surprised when Obama’s 1st official act is to issue a full Presidential pardon for Rezko, pay back you know.
Were you surprised when Bush issued a pardon (or whatever it was) to Scooter Libby?
March 12th, 2008 at 1:33 pmAh, Southern Closet Case, don’t play the game of who has more sex offenders - the GOP ALWAYS LOSES THAT ONE!!! ROTFL!!
# Republican Delegate Robert McKee, known as an advocate for children’s rights, is the focus of a child pornography investigation after officers searched his Hagerstown, Md home. McKee is not facing any charges right now, but as of today, Feb 15, 2008, he has resigned his position as both a state delegate and as executive director of the Big Brothers Big Sisters Club of Washington County. In a statement, McKee said he is entering treatment to, “get well and stay well.” Shock waves echoed through Hagerstown, as the news that he was being investigated for child pornography spread like wildfire.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:34 pm**We will be keeping an eye on this story for further developments**
# Republican sex offender & Department of Children & Families press secretary Al Zimmerman, 40, was arrested Friday, Feb 1, 2008 and charged with eight felony charges of using a child in a sexual performance. According to an arrest report, Zimmerman offered two teens money in exchange for photographing them in sexual acts. The victims were ages 16 and 17 at the time of the crime, and at least one may have been in the care of DCF at one point, according to the report. Authorities believe some of the images date back to December 2005, the arrest report showed. Zimmerman is suspected of taking photos as recently as Friday, the report showed.
# The Republican Mayor, who is also the Pastor of the Temple Lot Church in Collins Missouri, a town in St. Clair County, is accused of trying to convince someone whom he thought was a teenage girl to meet him for sex. Diamond police say Allen D Kauffman is charged in Newton County with four counts of enticement of a child after an online investigation that began in mid-November.
Diamond Police Detective Jim Murray says he posed as a 13-year-old girl named Cindy and was approached by a man who used the screen name duke dukeadk on Nov. 15 about noon in an online chat room.
Murray says Kauffman discussed meeting her to take nude photos and to have sex. Over the course of seven conversations during the past two months, transcripts show each chat was sexually graphic. Murray say Kauffman recognized the girl’s age, and even showed some hesitation, teasing the girl about whether she could be a cop.
Police say Kauffman repeatedly asked the girl to use a webcam, and didn’t wait long to use his. The detective saved some photos from a webcam on Kauffman’s computer in his home in Collins.
# Republican Party Chairman Donald Fleischman, 37, of Allouez, Wisconsin was charged last month with two counts of child enticement, two counts of contributing to the delinquency of a child and a single charge of exposing himself to a child for allegedly fondling a 16-year-old Ethan House runaway and providing the boy with beer and marijuana late last year.
# Republican U.S. Justice Department official John David R. Atchison, 53, an assistant U.S. attorney from the northern district of Florida, has been arrested on suspicion of traveling to Detroit over the weekend to have sex with a 5 year old child. An undercover officer posed as a mother offering her child to Atchison for sex, according to police. In deposition, detectives said Atchison suggested the mother tell her daughter that “you found her a sweet boyfriend who will bring her presents.” The undercover detective expressed concern about physical injury to the 5-year-old girl as a result of the sexual activity. Detectives said Atchison responded, ” I am always gentle and loving; not to worry, no damage ever, no rough stuff ever. I only like it soft and nice.” The undercover detective asked how Atchison can be certain of no injury. He responded, “Just gotta go slow and very easy. I’ve done it plenty,” according to detectives.
**UPDATE: John Atchison has killed himself. Detroit police confirmed Atchison’s suicide death at 10:14 a.m. Friday, Oct. 5, 2007. Good riddance, scumbag!
# Republican city councilman John Bryan killed himself after police began investigating allegations that he had molested three girls, including two of his adopted daughters, ages 12 and 15.
# Republican Homeland Security deputy press secretary Brian J. Doyle , 55, was arrested Tuesday night, April 4, 2006 and charged with trying to “seduce” a 14-year-old Polk County girl with graphic talk over the Internet. On March 12, Doyle contacted a 14-year-old girl whose profile was posted on an AOL Web site, according to the Sheriff’s Office release. Initially, detectives thought Doyle was posing as someone working for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. But they soon learned otherwise when he sent a picture to the girl over the Internet wearing an official “DHS tag”, Judd said.
# The former head of the Michigan Federation of Young Republicans, Michael Flory, admitted Tuesday that he sexually abused a colleague during a national convention in Cleveland last summer
# Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.
# Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found guilty of fondling underage girls.
# Republican Township Supervisor Robert Holland stepped down amid accusations that he sexually assaulted a 92-year-old nursing home resident in 2006. Holland, a 77-year-old Republican, pleaded guilty to aggravated indecent assault and related charges and is now serving a two- to four-year prison sentence in Bucks County.
# Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for having sex with a 14-year old boy.
# Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.
# Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.
# Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys — ages ten and 12 — during a six-year period.
# Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.
# Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after “sexually explicit” emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.
# Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.
# Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.
# Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
# Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
# Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.
# Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.
# Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano pleaded guilty to fondling a 14-year-old girl.
# Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
# Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
# Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
# Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the internet.
# Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.
# Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
# Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
# Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.
# Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
# Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.
# Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
# Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
# Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
# Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
# Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
# Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of whom appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial.
# Republican fundraiser Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
# Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
# Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
# Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
# Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
# Republican campaign chairman Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child and was arrested again five years later on the same charge.
# Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
# Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter, Susan Smith, who later drowned her 2 children by strapping them in their car seats and plunging them into a lake in South Carolina and blamed it on a black man. Beverly Russell admitted abusing Smith when she was 15 and continuing an incestuous relationship with her until shortly before she drowned her children in John D. Long Lake.
# Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer.
# Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
# Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
# Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
# Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
# Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
# Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced prison after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
# Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
# Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
# Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
# Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
# Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
# Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
# Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.
# Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
# Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
# Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
# Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
# Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
# Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
# Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
# Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
# Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
# Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
# Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
# Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage girls.
# Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
# Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.
# Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
# Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information about the anti-American insurgency. See excerpt of one prisoner’s report here and his full report here.
Just did some more checking on SM’s Top Ten, and no. 10, actually refers to a campaign ad run in 1992 by an opponent of Sen Inouye, making hay out of an incident that occurred in 1975.
So that makes fully HALF of SM’s list at least 30 years old. And still none more recent than a dozen years.
THAT’s timely, SM.
How about your numbers 11-20 now? We can handle it.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:36 pmYou don’t believe Teddy was responsible for that young womans death? Then who was Arn? Bush senior maybe? That would make sense in your world.
Ted Kennedy was responsible for the death of the young woman. Just like Laura Bush was responsible for the death of her ex-boyfriend when she killed him in an automobile accident. The point is they were both ruled accidental, not crimes.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:36 pmI guees it’s irrelevant then. All actions pre 2000 don’t count today. Wish I could live in that world.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:31 pm
boy, do you give up easy!
ex-lax and gg why don’t you guys help a brother troll out?
oh, so you think he’s a dumb shit too? sorry.
southie… you’re on your own.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:37 pmDo you have a top ten from this milleneum?
Comment by deebaser — March 12, 2008 @ 1:20 pm
Right, deebaser. I noticed the same thing.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — March 12, 2008 @ 1:22 pm
I guees it’s irrelevant then. All actions pre 2000 don’t count today. Wish I could live in that world.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:31 pm
Yeah , instead you and your fellow GOP/Chimpy leg humping moronic brethren in Goof_Jelly and Excrement want to excuse-make/apologize for a life-long failure and habitual liar who has proven himself to be the worst president in US history ; and who has caused the deaths of OVER 1 MILLION PEOPLE , which you find perfectly acceptable ……………What a loser.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:37 pmComment by Zooey — March 12, 2008 @ 12:56 pm
Ha, just another inconvenient truth, nothing to see here… move along.
Sarc/off
March 12th, 2008 at 1:38 pmMy point is, it’s not just the republicans. Democrats are guilty of this as well.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:36 pm
If you’re going to make a point, it would help if you could prove it. All you’ve proven is that Democrats, over a 30-year span, have occasionally transgressed. Try comparing that to the list above.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:38 pmGeez, rhf… is that all you could find?
Stop slackin’ and git ‘er dun!
Hmmmm… not too many of THOSE are 10 or even 20 years old…
March 12th, 2008 at 1:38 pmMy point is, it’s not just the republicans. Democrats are guilty of this as well.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:36 pm
Well, that may have been the point you thought you were making, but the list you offered actually made a different point: that Democrats have been guilty of this in the distant past as well.
In short, you didn’t make your point very effectively.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:39 pmMy point is, it’s not just the republicans. Democrats are guilty of this as well.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:36 pm
next time i see senator mcsame posing with “pastor hagee” i’ll remember your words, southie.
thanks old timer.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:39 pmThirty something never looked so good.
My point is, it’s not just the republicans. Democrats are guilty of this as well.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:36 pm
Yet Republicans like Vitter and Craig don’t do the right thing. Then there’s the hard cold reality that it’s USUALLY a Republican that does this kind of thing…
March 12th, 2008 at 1:41 pmIt still does not make them irrelevant, no matter how you try and spin it off. Some people here act as if the dems are without any shame. They have shame in their party as well as the reps, no matter how long ago it transpired.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:42 pm
ROTFL!! So for Republicans the EXCEPTION makes the RULE when talking about Democrats, but the RULES can be IGNORED for the COMMONALITY OF THE OCCURRENCE and REPUBLICANS!! ROTFL!! You’re a sad little child!! ROTFL!!
March 12th, 2008 at 1:43 pmComment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:42 pm
southie, but i thought you might be interested in this stuff especially if you’re like other folks your age who have to get up at night and keep going. check it out.
http://www.depend.com/ learn/ male_incont.asp?WT.srch=1&WT.mc_id=26811&IQ_ID=26811
remember it affects both republicans and democrats so don’t be ashamed.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:46 pm120 - thanks for trotting out “the list”.
makes all of Mr. Golly and Mr. Man’s remarks look very silly.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:48 pmMy point is, it’s not just the republicans. Democrats are guilty of this as well.
Comment by Southern Man
SM…..your point seemed to me to be that it’s ok for republicans to get away with this shit but look over here…..quick. See what democrats have done in the past…..well we thought they did anyway……whether it’s true or not.
Another thing is why is this governor so much more important than congressmen and senators who are part of the national government? Why is Foley……a true pervert not in prison for example…..can one of you defenders of the right please explain that to me.
This man was preying on children……just as you accused Bill Clinton of doing…….except the are the same sex which should be even worse to you who are religious fundies.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:49 pmpreoccupation with lurid and trivial matters, and a penchance for oversimplification that just won’t quit.
guess that’s what being a righty is all about.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:49 pmYo, Southie - when did a blow job between CONSENTING ADULTS become illegal…?
Idiot.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:49 pmHey, Southie - when did a blow job between CONSENTING ADULTS become illegal…?
Idiot.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:51 pmIt still does not make them irrelevant, no matter how you try and spin it off. Some people here act as if the dems are without any shame. They have shame in their party as well as the reps, no matter how long ago it transpired.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:42 pm
At what point would say old news becomes irrelevant to today’s political climate, then? How about a scandal involving Sen. Arthur Brown (R-UT) who was shot to death by a jealous mistress in 1906? Is that relevant?
Or you could go to Rep. Wm. Breckenridge (D-KY) who was sued by his longtime mistress in 1893 to prove that Democrats are just as bad.
Here’s a good one: famed lawyer and orator, Secretary of State, and Senator Daniel Webster (D. MA), the father of four legitimate children, was accused by Washington, DC correspondent Jane Grey Swisshelm of fathering two illegitimate “mulatto†children in 1850.
That ought to score you some points.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:51 pmHagee needs to be taken out in my opinion. I thought I made that clear yesterday.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:49 pm
of course you did!
you’re not losing your memory.
just your hair.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:51 pmAll actions pre 2000 don’t count today. Wish I could live in that world.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:31 pm
Should I take the time to explain this to you, or do you just want to be “right”?
Spitzer did resign. And many of us here, including me, called for that right from the start. (You can read?)
“He needs to resign, period.
Comment by Wayne — March 10, 2008 @ 2:15 pm
Yeaaaah… but I ain’t holding my breath.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — March 10, 2008 @ 2:16 pm”
Vitter has not.
Craig has even gone so far as to repeatedly try get his own plea overturned. Me? I’m kinda glad Craig refuses to resign. He’s an embarrassment to the GOOP and a millstone around their collective wattles.
I’m one of the ones here who have repeatedly said they wished we would vote almost ALL currently elected office holders out. A clean sweep, if ya know what I mean.
In some cases, you’re citing cases of folks who have been DEAD for years. Do you want to dig them up so they can resign or be tried?
The GOOP leadership covered for Mark Foley until it couldn’t hide the mess anymore, and then tried to blame it on the “librul” media.
The Betty Broderick case has been discredited so many times, yet you still list it. Apparently in YOUR world, discredited allegations are TRUE, and the actions of dead people excuse the actions of the living.
I’m glad I don’t live in YOUR world.
Yer just a partisan hack, and that’s all.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:54 pmYo, Southie - when did a blow job between CONSENTING ADULTS become illegal…?
Idiot.
Comment by Leftside Annie — March 12, 2008 @ 1:49 pm
for us it isn’t, annie. but for gg, ex-lax and southie why it’s a terrible crime.
that’s why southie wrote “Wish I could live in that world.”
right southie?
*
March 12th, 2008 at 1:54 pmSM-
March 12th, 2008 at 1:55 pmWe need to seperate the MORAL issue from the ETHICAL one…
We cannot legislate morals since they are the inner compass used to guide behavior- we CAN legislate ethics since they are the rules that society uses to guide behavior…
Bill Clinton and Monica was a moral issue, therefore a private matter between him and his family- that’s why the grounds for impeachment were contempt, not sex… and they only scraped those together after years of depositions and narrowing the deinition of ’sexual relations’ intentionally in the hopes of ‘tripping’ Clinton up- it was silly, childish and wasteful.
Vitter, Craig, Spitzer, et al. (refer to RHF’s list for more) all broke the law- that’s an ethical violation and therefore they need to resign.
That’s the point- ETHICS v. MORALS… learn the difference.
That’s my top ten favorite Bilbo. Politicians are sick by nature, on both sides.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:15 pm
funny how accusations are the same as guilt to you immoral, putrid republican hypocrites.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:56 pmDo they come in burgundy? I can only wear burgundy after the fall. My hip talks to me you know. “Get up Southie†it says to me.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:53 pm
yeah ex-lax and gg…
southie,
he’s one of yours!
March 12th, 2008 at 1:56 pmI guees it’s irrelevant then. All actions pre 2000 don’t count today. Wish I could live in that world.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:31 pm
it wouldn’t matter. conservatives are, by nature, perverts and rapists. but, you have to admit, your side really excells in being animals.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:57 pmThe main point SM is that Spitzer expose was a political hit for his invesigation of the Carlyle group……..guess that is ok with you but not me…..I suspect that illegal means were used to gather the information for this hit and that is a crime……..
March 12th, 2008 at 1:59 pmYou don’t believe Teddy was responsible for that young womans death? Then who was Arn? Bush senior maybe? That would make sense in your world.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:25 pm
well, then, time to arrest Laura Bush for murder as well.
March 12th, 2008 at 1:59 pmMy point is, it’s not just the republicans. Democrats are guilty of this as well.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:36 pm
actually, they aren’t all you have is accusations. typical liar of the rightwing liars.
March 12th, 2008 at 2:01 pmYet Republicans like Vitter and Craig don’t do the right thing. Then there’s the hard cold reality that it’s USUALLY a Republican that does this kind of thing…
Comment by republicans hate facts — March 12, 2008 @ 1:41 pm
And yet only Repugs threaten to veto over sex.
March 12th, 2008 at 2:01 pmComment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:31 pm
it wouldn’t matter. conservatives are, by nature, perverts and rapists. but, you have to admit, your side really excells in being animals.
Comment by Lefty Patriot — March 12, 2008 @ 1:57 pm
SM don’t have to admit nuttin’.
See, a long time ago, a Democrat did sumpin’ bad. That makes Republicans a-okay to do bad stuff too. ‘Cause Democrats are just as bad. Or at least they have been at one point in time.
March 12th, 2008 at 2:03 pmYou don’t believe Teddy was responsible for that young womans death? Then who was Arn? Bush senior maybe? That would make sense in your world.
Comment by Southern Man — March 12, 2008 @ 1:25 pm
well, then, time to arrest Laura Bush for murder as well.
Comment by Lefty Patriot
Lefty makes the point…….righties want blood if its a democrat…..look the other way if it’s a republican..
how can you say the democrats behave like that……….you can’t. Democrats will user in a new era of responsibilty and integrity…….the republicans never had it…never will……but they talked a good story.
March 12th, 2008 at 2:03 pmHow about your numbers 11-20 now? We can handle it.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — March 12, 2008 @ 1:36 pm
It still does not make them irrelevant, no matter how you try and spin it off. Some people here act as if the dems are without any shame. They have shame in their party as well as