Comments on: 28 percent: http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:58:23 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/comment-page-1/#comment-4301034 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:35:38 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/#comment-4301034 <strong>THEY JUST CANNOT GET ENOUGH DEATH!</strong> …An Associated Press poll in February found that <strong>the average American believed about 9,900 Iraqis had been killed since the end of major combat operations in 2003.</strong> Recent evidence suggests that things in Iraq may be 100 times worse than Americans realize. …Finally, last month, the respected British polling firm ORB released the results of a poll <strong>estimating that 22 percent of (Iraqi) households had lost a member to violence during the occupation of Iraq, equating to 1.2 million deaths.</strong> …So multiple polls and scientific surveys all suggest the official figures and media-based estimates in Iraq have missed 70 percent to 95 percent of all deaths. The evidence suggests that the extent of underreporting by the media is only increasing with time. http://www.baltimoresun.com/ne.....6773.story <em>** I posted this piece <strong>many</strong> times awhile back. I realize I need to keep posting it for the many newbies here.</em> THEY JUST CANNOT GET ENOUGH DEATH!

…An Associated Press poll in February found that the average American believed about 9,900 Iraqis had been killed since the end of major combat operations in 2003. Recent evidence suggests that things in Iraq may be 100 times worse than Americans realize.

…Finally, last month, the respected British polling firm ORB released the results of a poll estimating that 22 percent of (Iraqi) households had lost a member to violence during the occupation of Iraq, equating to 1.2 million deaths.

…So multiple polls and scientific surveys all suggest the official figures and media-based estimates in Iraq have missed 70 percent to 95 percent of all deaths. The evidence suggests that the extent of underreporting by the media is only increasing with time.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/ne…..6773.story

** I posted this piece many times awhile back. I realize I need to keep posting it for the many newbies here.

]]> By: specialist f http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/comment-page-1/#comment-4300670 specialist f Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:37:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/#comment-4300670 Comment by backup Yea,backed up, there are alot of tools like you that don't care about nothing but their favorite sporting event or what britney's doing. But most folks understand $5.00/gallon gas and higher cost on all shipped goods. Comment by backup
Yea,backed up, there are alot of tools like you that don’t care about nothing but their favorite sporting event or what britney’s doing. But most folks understand $5.00/gallon gas and higher cost on all shipped goods.

]]> By: toasterhead http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/comment-page-1/#comment-4300666 toasterhead Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:37:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/#comment-4300666 <i>I took that Pew news quiz and apparently my “news IQ” is higher than 83% of Americans. And I’m not even American. I flunked on the economy questions http://pewresearch.org/newsiq/ Comment by galmud — March 13, 2008 @ 11:03 am</i> Here's Your Score: You correctly answered 12 of the 12 possible questions along with approximately 3% of the public. You did better than 97% of the general public. <b>W00T.</b> I took that Pew news quiz and apparently my “news IQ” is higher than 83% of Americans. And I’m not even American. I flunked on the economy questions
http://pewresearch.org/newsiq/

Comment by galmud — March 13, 2008 @ 11:03 am

Here’s Your Score: You correctly answered 12 of the 12 possible questions along with approximately 3% of the public. You did better than 97% of the general public.

W00T.

]]> By: specialist f http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/comment-page-1/#comment-4300659 specialist f Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:34:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/#comment-4300659 Chuck name raper thinks it's good news that we will have another generation of Veterans with PTSD,permenant hearing loss,and sicknesses from tainted water. Let me guess this stupid troll has never worn a uniform...besides the one that says Mcy/Dees. Chuck name raper thinks it’s good news that we will have another generation of Veterans with PTSD,permenant hearing loss,and sicknesses from tainted water. Let me guess this stupid troll has never worn a uniform…besides the one that says Mcy/Dees.

]]> By: alphainfinityomega http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/comment-page-1/#comment-4300631 alphainfinityomega Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:25:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/#comment-4300631 That's 4,000 that has died <strong>in</strong> Iraq. My bet is that over 10,000 U.S. troops are dead <strong>from</strong> Iraq, and probably another 15,000 missing body parts. <strong>A∞Ω</strong> That’s 4,000 that has died in Iraq.
My bet is that over 10,000 U.S. troops are dead from Iraq, and probably another 15,000 missing body parts.

A∞Ω

]]> By: deebaser http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/comment-page-1/#comment-4300617 deebaser Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:16:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/#comment-4300617 The headline/summary here is reversed — the article states that “Twenty-eight percent of the public is aware that nearly 4,000 U.S. personnel have died in Iraq…” Comment by mcavalletto — March 13, 2008 @ 11:49 am ---- sad.... The headline/summary here is reversed — the article states that “Twenty-eight percent of the public is aware that nearly 4,000 U.S. personnel have died in Iraq…”

Comment by mcavalletto — March 13, 2008 @ 11:49 am
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sad….

]]> By: Bluestocking http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/comment-page-1/#comment-4300571 Bluestocking Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:58:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/#comment-4300571 Wonder how many Americans know the number Iraqis killed (documented and estimated) or the number of Iraqi refugees and displaced because of their presidents illegal war. I took that Pew news quiz and apparently my “news IQ” is higher than 83% of Americans. And I’m not even American. I flunked on the economy questions -- Galmud *********************************************** I just took the quiz and got all twelve questions right, along with (apparently) only 3% of all Americans. According to the website, the national average is only about 6 out of 12 correct answers. Good grief -- that's not just pathetic, that's frightening. What makes it even worse is that the questions are multiple-choice, meaning that you have a 25% chance of choosing the right answer purely by chance. To top it all off, at least in my estimation, most of these questions were unbelievably easy -- such as "Can you name the Chairman of the Democratic National Committee"? As far as I can tell, you have to be very nearly comatose in order to get fewer than three-fourths of the questions right. Wonder how many Americans know the number Iraqis killed (documented and estimated) or the number of Iraqi refugees and displaced because of their presidents illegal war.

I took that Pew news quiz and apparently my “news IQ” is higher than 83% of Americans. And I’m not even American. I flunked on the economy questions — Galmud

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I just took the quiz and got all twelve questions right, along with (apparently) only 3% of all Americans. According to the website, the national average is only about 6 out of 12 correct answers. Good grief — that’s not just pathetic, that’s frightening. What makes it even worse is that the questions are multiple-choice, meaning that you have a 25% chance of choosing the right answer purely by chance. To top it all off, at least in my estimation, most of these questions were unbelievably easy — such as “Can you name the Chairman of the Democratic National Committee”? As far as I can tell, you have to be very nearly comatose in order to get fewer than three-fourths of the questions right.

]]> By: mcavalletto http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/comment-page-1/#comment-4300556 mcavalletto Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:49:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/#comment-4300556 The headline/summary here is reversed -- the article states that "Twenty-eight percent of the public <em><strong>is</strong></em> aware that nearly 4,000 U.S. personnel have died in Iraq..." The headline/summary here is reversed — the article states that “Twenty-eight percent of the public is aware that nearly 4,000 U.S. personnel have died in Iraq…”

]]> By: Doc Rock http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/comment-page-1/#comment-4300545 Doc Rock Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:42:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/#comment-4300545 How many more have suffered brain damage, loss of limbs, loss of sight, and loss of hearing? How many will suffer the rest of their lives with hobble of PTSD? All for non-existent WMD and fictional connections between Saddam and Al Qaida. How many more have suffered brain damage, loss of limbs, loss of sight, and loss of hearing? How many will suffer the rest of their lives with hobble of PTSD? All for non-existent WMD and fictional connections between Saddam and Al Qaida.

]]> By: backup http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/comment-page-1/#comment-4300538 backup Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:41:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/#comment-4300538 Although Iraq topped the list of the public's most closely followed news stories in all but five weeks during the first half of 2007, according to Pew's research, interest fell rapidly in the fall, and Iraq has not held the top spot since October. That corresponded with a sharp drop in the rate of U.S. casualties in Iraq and increased news coverage of the U.S. presidential campaign. That corresponded with a sharp drop in the rate of U.S. casualties in Iraq Although Iraq topped the list of the public’s most closely followed news stories in all but five weeks during the first half of 2007, according to Pew’s research, interest fell rapidly in the fall, and Iraq has not held the top spot since October. That corresponded with a sharp drop in the rate of U.S. casualties in Iraq and increased news coverage of the U.S. presidential campaign.

That corresponded with a sharp drop in the rate of U.S. casualties in Iraq

]]> By: PatrioticLiberalChristian http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/comment-page-1/#comment-4300525 PatrioticLiberalChristian Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:35:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/#comment-4300525 People who play the lottery THINK they are ultimately going to win. That's good news right? You trolls want those people to be rich don't you? People who play the lottery THINK they are ultimately going to win.

That’s good news right?

You trolls want those people to be rich don’t you?

]]> By: toasterhead http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/comment-page-1/#comment-4300514 toasterhead Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:28:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/#comment-4300514 <i>That’s good news right? You TPers do want the US to succeed don’t you? Comment by Charles James Napier — March 13, 2008 @ 11:26 am</i> Success means getting our troops and contractors out and leaving Iraq. So yes, we want the US to succeed. That’s good news right?

You TPers do want the US to succeed don’t you?

Comment by Charles James Napier — March 13, 2008 @ 11:26 am

Success means getting our troops and contractors out and leaving Iraq. So yes, we want the US to succeed.

]]> By: Charles James Napier http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/comment-page-1/#comment-4300510 Charles James Napier Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:26:35 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/#comment-4300510 The Pew poll also found that 53 percent of Americans think the U.S. will ultimately achieve its goals in Iraq. ------------------------------------------------------ That's good news right? You TPers do want the US to succeed don't you? The Pew poll also found that 53 percent of Americans think the U.S. will ultimately achieve its goals in Iraq.
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That’s good news right?

You TPers do want the US to succeed don’t you?

]]> By: liberal traitor http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/comment-page-1/#comment-4300495 liberal traitor Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:18:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/#comment-4300495 Wonder how many Americans know the number Iraqis killed (documented and estimated) or the number of Iraqi refugees and displaced because of their presidents illegal war. I took that Pew news quiz and apparently my “news IQ” is higher than 83% of Americans. And I’m not even American. I flunked on the economy questions http://pewresearch.org/newsiq/ Comment by galmud — March 13, 2008 @ 11:03 am Just took it myself. my "news IQ" is higher than 91% of the general public. The only one I got wrong was the DOW JONES industrial average... Wonder how many Americans know the number Iraqis killed (documented and estimated) or the number of Iraqi refugees and displaced because of their presidents illegal war.

I took that Pew news quiz and apparently my “news IQ” is higher than 83% of Americans. And I’m not even American. I flunked on the economy questions
http://pewresearch.org/newsiq/

Comment by galmud — March 13, 2008 @ 11:03 am

Just took it myself. my “news IQ” is higher than 91% of the general public. The only one I got wrong was the DOW JONES industrial average…

]]> By: galmud http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/comment-page-1/#comment-4300466 galmud Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:03:16 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/#comment-4300466 Wonder how many Americans know the number Iraqis killed (documented and estimated) or the number of Iraqi refugees and displaced because of their presidents illegal war. I took that Pew news quiz and apparently my "news IQ" is higher than 83% of Americans. And I'm not even American. I flunked on the economy questions http://pewresearch.org/newsiq/ Wonder how many Americans know the number Iraqis killed (documented and estimated) or the number of Iraqi refugees and displaced because of their presidents illegal war.

I took that Pew news quiz and apparently my “news IQ” is higher than 83% of Americans. And I’m not even American. I flunked on the economy questions
http://pewresearch.org/newsiq/

]]> By: lefty http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/comment-page-1/#comment-4300455 lefty Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:56:27 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/#comment-4300455 I think the number in the end will wind up around 15-20%. It took years but it's hard to find the OJ is innocent crowd anymore - these people are the political equivalent. I think the number in the end will wind up around 15-20%. It took years but it’s hard to find the OJ is innocent crowd anymore – these people are the political equivalent.

]]> By: lefty http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/comment-page-1/#comment-4300451 lefty Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:54:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/#comment-4300451 Clearly from this poll and many others 1 out of every 4 Americans is an ignorant tool. Clearly from this poll and many others 1 out of every 4 Americans is an ignorant tool.

]]> By: Mr. Evil http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/comment-page-1/#comment-4300429 Mr. Evil Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:43:38 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/#comment-4300429 Comment by Marie — March 13, 2008 @ 10:32 am Hell yeah, Marie! Don't stop now. You're on a roll. Comment by Marie — March 13, 2008 @ 10:32 am

Hell yeah, Marie! Don’t stop now. You’re on a roll.

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/comment-page-1/#comment-4300423 Marie Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:32:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/#comment-4300423 This has nothing to do with the fact that the war news is off the front pages of newspapers, and barely given note on the news networks. The ill-informed public suffers from ADD, and the lack of journalism plays a large role in the ignorance. The corporate moguls in charge of the news and information reaching the public have determined that pretty faces, well-coiffed heads and repetition of gossip, he said/she said reporting are more suitable to their profit motives. Meanwhile, 4000 families will never be the same; tens of thousands of wounded vets will never be the same; the toll of those suffering from the invisible psychological scars of this war has yet to be determined -- our children and grandchildren will be seeing that statistic. The Bushies and their minions will continue to lie and twist facts; they will continue to keep the truth hidden; they will continue to support the shredding of the Constitution -- and the 30% brain-dead of the population will applaud. This has nothing to do with the fact that the war news is off the front pages of newspapers, and barely given note on the news networks.
The ill-informed public suffers from ADD, and the lack of journalism plays a large role in the ignorance.
The corporate moguls in charge of the news and information reaching the public have determined that pretty faces, well-coiffed heads and repetition of gossip, he said/she said reporting are more suitable to their profit motives.
Meanwhile, 4000 families will never be the same; tens of thousands of wounded vets will never be the same; the toll of those suffering from the invisible psychological scars of this war has yet to be determined — our children and grandchildren will be seeing that statistic.
The Bushies and their minions will continue to lie and twist facts; they will continue to keep the truth hidden; they will continue to support the shredding of the Constitution — and the 30% brain-dead of the population will applaud.

]]> By: Mr. Evil http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/comment-page-1/#comment-4300422 Mr. Evil Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:30:38 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2008/03/13/28-percent-6/#comment-4300422 And nearly 50% of Americans still believe Iraq had something to do with 9-11. We all pretty much agree that Bush is dumb. But when push comes to shove, Americans can dumb themselves down faster than anyone. And nearly 50% of Americans still believe Iraq had something to do with 9-11. We all pretty much agree that Bush is dumb. But when push comes to shove, Americans can dumb themselves down faster than anyone.

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