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ThinkFast: March 13, 2008

By Think Progress on Mar 13th, 2008 at 9:00 am

ThinkFast: March 13, 2008»


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The rapidly falling dollar “marked a milestone in Japan as it fell below 100 yen for the first time in 12 years” amid growing concerns about the health of the U.S. economy.

“The U.S. federal government ran a monthly budget deficit of $175.56 billion in February, a record for any month, the Treasury Department said Wednesday.”

Sixty percent of Americans think the Iraq war was a mistake, according to a new USA Today poll. The same number also favors a timetable for troop withdrawal, regardless of the situation in Iraq, while 54 percent believe that history will judge the war as mostly or a total failure. A Pew poll found that 53 percent of Americans think the U.S. will ultimately achieve its goals in Iraq.

“A barrage of rockets targeting an American military base in southern Iraq on Wednesday morning killed three U.S. soldiers, bringing to 12 the number of Americans killed in Iraq in the past three days.”

Top FBI officials “repeatedly approved the use of ‘blanket’ records demands to justify the improper collection of thousands of phone records.” These blanket demands — which do not require the approval of a judge — were used at least 11 times in 2006 alone, “as a quick way to clean up mistakes” made since 9/11.

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), traveling to Europe next week, said he wouldn’t discuss differences with President Bush while abroad. “There are obvious differences,” he said. “I certainly won’t articulate them overseas.”

When a Justice Department proposed rule requiring U.S. contractors “to report waste, fraud or abuse they encounter while doing work for the government” was published by the White House Office of Management and Budget last year, it included “language that would exempt from such reporting all U.S. contractors who do work overseas” including in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) has touted the “equitable” sharing of oil revenues as evidence of Iraq’s progress. But “as concern grows that the government is not capitalizing on its oil, McCain is staying on the sidelines.” He has refused to sign a letter by fellow Senate Armed Service Committee members “demanding a full audit of how the Iraqi government was spending its oil revenue.”

The Pentagon has recorded nearly 50 videotapes of its interrogations of terrorism suspects Jose Padilla and Ali al-Marri, “the first official acknowledgment that military interrogators had videotaped some sessions with detainees.”

And finally: Most senators and aides are dreading the “vote-o-rama” planned for the next few days. The dozens are votes will mostly focus on “obscure procedural motions.” Sen. Sam Brownback (R-KS), however, is “truly thrilled at the prospect” of these votes. “I’m going to get my percentages up!” he gleefully told Roll Call, reportedly “pumping his arms in the air in the universal gesture of celebration.” During his bid for the GOP presidential nomination, his voting record took a hit; he missed 28.2 percent of votes.

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128 Responses to “ThinkFast: March 13, 2008”

  1. 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda Says:

    College Students, Veterans, Old Folks Shut Down Capitol Hill

    Today was the day for Stop-Loss Congress. We notified every Congress Member and Senator over the past two days that they were being stop-lossed and denied permission to leave until they end the occupation of Iraq…A group of activists dressed as Ghosts of War stood and spoke in the Senate and closed the place down - 10 arrests.

    Then groups of dozens of people, primarily college students, split up and blocked intersections and garage exits around the Hill…Dozens were arrested, most of them college students, some Vets for Peace and other old folks too.

    Videos:
    http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/stoplossvideos

    **UPDATE…The man who should be President, Dennis Kucinich, will comply with the Stop-Loss order and remain at his Desk until the Occupation of Iraq is ended.


  2. 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda Says:

    Corn-Based Ethanol Could Worsen “Dead Zone”

    WASHINGTON - Growing more corn to meet the projected U.S. demand for ethanol could worsen an expanding “dead zone” in the Gulf of Mexico that is bad for crawfish, shrimp and local fisheries, researchers reported on Monday.

    The dead zone is a huge area of water — some 7,700 square miles — that forms above the continental shelf of the Gulf of Mexico every summer. It contains very low levels of oxygen.

    The dead zone starts in Midwestern corn country when farmers fertilize their fields with nitrogen. The fertilizer run-off flows down the Mississippi River into the Gulf of Mexico, making algae bloom on the surface and cutting oxygen to creatures that live on the bottom.

    http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/03/11/7620/

    *** Corn based-ethanol is driving up food prices at a record rate and destroying the environment. This Genetically Modified corn is also ruining organic farms when its seeds/pollen are transported through the air. It should be considered a short-term “solution” at most until we can get millions of wind mills and solar panels installed.


  3. Zimzone Says:

    The rapidly falling dollar “marked a milestone in Japan as it fell below 100 yen for the first time in 12 years” amid growing concerns about the health of the U.S. economy.

    Mission Accomplished!
    Neocons have succeeded in destroying the value in our monetary system.
    As the price of crude oil increased by 10% in 10 days, Bubble Boy Bush still claims the dollar is strong, but hasn’t heard about $4/gal gas.

    I guess when you’re an oil puppet, it doesn’t matter if you’re reaping profits in yen, dollars or euros.


  4. dim wit Says:

    The rapidly falling dollar “marked a milestone in Japan as it fell below 100 yen for the first time in 12 years” amid growing concerns about the health of the U.S. economy.

    - - - -

    Our thoughtful president wants to ensure that if the recession doesn’t screw you that inflation will.


  5. Tobie Tall Says:

    Iraq war a mistake ?????

    WASHINGTON — The Pentagon on Wednesday canceled plans for broad public release of a study that found no pre-Iraq war link between late Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and the al Qaida terrorist network.

    Rather than posting the report online and making officials available to discuss it, as had been planned, the U.S. Joint Forces Command said it would mail copies of the document to reporters — if they asked for it. The report won’t be posted on the Internet.

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/30172.html

    A mistake BUT lets not talk about it ????


  6. Tobie Tall Says:

    $110.49 a barrel

    http://oil-price.net/


  7. Tobie Tall Says:

    McCain advisor: Destroy Islam

    Televangelist Rod Parsley, a key McCain ally in Ohio and his spiritual adviser, has called for eradicating Islam as a ‘false religion’.

    http://www.presstv.ir/


  8. Tobie Tall Says:

    http://www.presstv.ir/

    The European Union threatens to impose trade sanctions on nations which fail to join a global climate deal to replace the Kyoto Protocol.

    http://www.presstv.ir/ detail.aspx?id=47238&sectionid=351020605


  9. Tobie Tall Says:

    Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), traveling to Europe next week

    TELL HIM NOT TO COME …….. Im getting my rotten eggs out for his visit


  10. Zimzone Says:

    Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), traveling to Europe next week

    TELL HIM NOT TO COME …….. Im getting my rotten eggs out for his visit

    Comment by Tobie Tall

    Throw a few for me, Tobie.


  11. Doc Rock Says:

    The first time I lived in Japan (1962-1964) the rate was 360 Yen = $1.00. The last time I lived in Japan (1998-2000) the dollar went down as low as 108 Yen = $1.00. In those days I paid the equivalent of about $5.00 for one Fuji apple (big as the average two Fuji apples here). Things were extremely expensive in Tokyo and, if, as a U.S. Government employee I hadn’t gotten a fair chunk of a dollar supplement, life would have been very difficult. Americans living or travelling abroad must be hard hit unless they are very wealthy.

    The unprecedented decline of the dollar under the pathetic budgeting of the current deficit spending administration is weakening the US internationally and has real implications for our national security, not the ex-Eli cheerleaders or former playboy-pilot candidates seem to understand.

    Take us back to those budget surpluses we enjoyed during the Clinton years, PLEASE!


  12. And the beat goes on Says:

    The Gaza Bombshell
    After failing to anticipate Hamas’s victory over Fatah in the 2006 Palestinian election, the White House cooked up yet another scandalously covert and self-defeating Middle East debacle: part Iran-contra, part Bay of Pigs. With confidential documents, corroborated by outraged former and current U.S. officials, David Rose reveals how President Bush, Condoleezza Rice, and Deputy National-Security Adviser Elliott Abrams backed an armed force under Fatah strongman Muhammad Dahlan, touching off a bloody civil war in Gaza and leaving Hamas stronger than ever.
    http://www.vanityfair.com/ politics/ features/ 2008/ 04/ gaza200804

    Heard Mike Malloy talk about this. Although nothing should surprise me I still find this stunning.


  13. missmolly Says:

    Wow - the dollar is still in free fall, budget deficits are skyrocketing, more and more Americans realizing what a blunder going into Iraq was, and soldiers still getting killed in Iraq. And those are just the first FOUR ThinkFast items!

    Way to go, Dubya — keep this up, and the whole country may have eroded into dust by the time you get done!


  14. 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda Says:

    $110.49 a barrel

    http://oil-price.net/

    Comment by Tobie Tall — March 13, 2008 @ 9:11 am

    As the dollar falls…oil rises. As oil rises…the dollar falls. This destructive relationship powers itself. No end is in sight.


  15. Doc Rock Says:

    “Blanket” abuses by FBI investigators are just what many of us predicted when the Patriot Act, etc., were just a gleam in the eyes of the neos.


  16. Wilco Says:

    Former Sen. Howard Metzenbaum (D OH) died last night


  17. Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:

    it included “language that would exempt from such reporting all U.S. contractors who do work overseas” including in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Wow, a blanket invitation to steal, courtesy of the US government. No matter that it is our tax dollars they are stealing.

    I hope one of the first things that Obama does is as President will be to go after these contractors and prosecute them for fraud. Not to mention making them pay back the billions they have stolen from us.

    Remember folks, this money they are stealing is borrowed money that our children and grandchildren will be required to repay.


  18. JEP Says:

    Isn’t it ironic…
    Violence, displacement, genocide, and torture has not mattered enough to turn the tide of public opinion wholly against this war. We should all be ashamed because of it.

    But every day, as the implications of the war’s effect on our economy become more evident, the rallying cry “Bring them home,” has taken on public proportions.

    Every week our troops are there, it costs U.S. taxpayers another $12 billion of quickly-dwindling treasure. So now, those taxpayers are beginning to wake up and oppose the war. It finally got to their brain, through their wallets, not their hearts or their minds, or their spirits, but through their wallets…

    Too bad it took so long. Remember back on the days when Wolfovitz was calling this a 60 billion dollar war, that Iraq had so much oil, they would be able to foot the bill?

    That was half a TRILLION dollars ago, when our dollar was worth a big chunk more than it is now.

    How did it all happen so fast, with no authority powerful enough to everride this Republican-engineered descent into historic indebtedness.

    It would be accurate to call this no-bid, book-cooking era in the history of our nation, The Bush Tribulation.


  19. 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda Says:

    Iraq war a mistake ?????

    WASHINGTON — The Pentagon on Wednesday canceled plans for broad public release of a study that found no pre-Iraq war link between late Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and the al Qaida terrorist network.

    A mistake BUT lets not talk about it ????

    Comment by Tobie Tall — March 13, 2008 @ 9:10 am

    There’s no time to talk about it. The corporate media will need to spend the next month detailing the minutiae of every freaky sexual activity Elliot Spitzer engaged in with his prostitutes. Ditto on Bush vetoing the anti-Torture bill. No time for covering something as trivial as that. Hey, does anyone know what color panties the prostitute wore??


  20. Bobwurst Says:

    UK top cop who led CIA probe found dead

    Manchester Police Chief Who Cleared Britain of Helping Secret CIA Flights Is Found Dead

    He “fell off a cliff”. Really.

    http://www.rawstory.com/ news/ mochila/ UK_top_cop_who_led_CIA_probe_found__03112008.html


  21. Democrat Soldier Says:

    #14 - “No end is in sight.” Comment by 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda — March 13, 2008 @ 9:18 am

    The end is when Pres. Bush finishes screwing the American Economy that he started 7 years ago, and the US dollar is worthless.


  22. Lungman424 Says:

    Wow - the dollar is still in free fall, budget deficits are skyrocketing, more and more Americans realizing what a blunder going into Iraq was, and soldiers still getting killed in Iraq. And those are just the first FOUR ThinkFast items!

    Way to go, Dubya — keep this up, and the whole country may have eroded into dust by the time you get done!

    Comment by missmolly — March 13, 2008 @ 9:18 am

    I’m sure it’s just a matter of time before we start hearing the “it’s Bill Clintons fault” GOP manta


  23. Democrat Soldier Says:

    #21 - Comment by Thecairngman — March 13, 2008 @ 9:26 am

    The alternative is endless war for no reason and a forever-fascist state brought to you by Sen. “Flip-flop” McCain.


  24. Zimzone Says:

    If Obama wins the presidency stick a fork in America! Once socialism gets one tentacle locked in our Govt there is no turning back. One world Govt.!! Lets all assume the tit sucking positon and bring on the nanny state! -Thecairngman

    Corporate Socialism is alive & well. Is that what gets you off? Corporate welfare has grown to a point where they don’t even pretend they’re trying to be accountable. Cayman Island tax evasion schemes, blanket immunity from oversight or accountability.

    This must be a drive-by Troll; it obviously didn’t bother to read Thinkfast, but just wanted to drop a distracting turd on the thread.


  25. Kay Says:

    This Nazi Admin has been eavesdropping and spying on us prior to 9/11.
    Just ask Qwest. This Authoritarian Admin says the reason they did not get warrents (see FISA) was because of 9/11.

    We’ve been fed absolutely nothing but lies since Day 1 with this Krime Kabal. When is America going to wake up?

    I guess we’re all too busy following a governor’s sex life.

    Good job press.


  26. OsirisHusseinOsiris Says:

    “mistakes made since 911″?? There have to be thousands of them by this administration. In fact, this entire administration is one HUGE mistake - stolen presidency so no one in it should legitimately be there - This “fantasy bubble administration” of smoke and mirrors perhaps only exists in their altered state of reality.


  27. And the beat goes on Says:

    Carlyle Fund’s Assets Seized
    Leaders Fail to Stop Securities Sell-Off

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    Thursday, March 13, 2008; Page D01

    A publicly traded affiliate of the Carlyle Group said yesterday that lenders were seizing its assets, sending the fund, Carlyle Capital, into insolvency.

    The collapse of Carlyle Capital is the first time a Carlyle Group fund has failed and is a stinging embarrassment for the District private-equity powerhouse, which has built an international reputation with a client list that reaches around the world.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/ content/ article/ 2008/ 03/ 13/ AR2008031300061.html?hpid=topnews

    Looks like the neocons got trapped in their own greedy nets.



  28. DRxJ Says:

    Caption Contest:

    “During my tenor as president, what I hold in my right hand, has become insignificant. You’re so welcome, middle class America!”


  29. And the beat goes on Says:

    Sorry for the last post - only intended to copy the first paragraph.


  30. Kay Says:

    When I think of the next Admin.: I think why in the hell would someone want to inherit the mess this Fascist Regime has caused. Course, if McBomb gets in : RIP America.


  31. impeachcheneythenbush Says:

    Everytime the Fed lowers interest rates and/or makes more dollars to dump into the market to “increase liquidity,” the weaker and weaker the dollar becomes. I wasn’t a Ron Paul supporter, but his call to get rid of the Federal Reserve and go back onto the gold standard makes sense. If you want to see something eye-opening, check out a movie entitled, “America: Freedom to Fascism.” It covers both the federal income tax on wages and labor and the creation and actions of the Federal Reserve.


  32. missmolly Says:

    If Obama wins the presidency stick a fork in America! Once socialism gets one tentacle locked in our Govt there is no turning back. One world Govt.!! Lets all assume the tit sucking positon and bring on the nanny state!

    Comment by Thecairngman — March 13, 2008 @ 9:26 am

    Is this a parody post? Or do you just have nothing intelligent to say this morning?


  33. OsirisHusseinOsiris Says:

    Kay: The corrupt reichwing will spin this every way possible to avert the media attention away from this horrendous administration’s errors and criminal behavior. The people do “get it” finally though and are having none of it.

    Besides, the sheer hypocrisy of the focus on this governor’s use of call girls while several of their own still sit in Congress is utterly amazing. People realize this as well.

    “You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time”. Thankfully, the number of educated people is rising thanks to the volume of the lies directly from this president.


  34. tom Says:

    Hey, caringman! GSY (go snark yourself)

    Oh, and while you’re at it, GFY too.


  35. OsirisHusseinOsiris Says:

    thecairngman: Speaking of tit sucking, you must be referring to yourself then?


  36. Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:

    OT, but since TP has a ban on all things “Hillary”, I’ll post this here.

    Did anyone see Keith Olbermann on Countdown last night with his special remark on the Hillary/Geraldine issue? Boy, he was on fire and he was right on the mark. She has the nerve to jump on Obama because one of his supporters (Farakhan) said something vile a long time ago, and it wasn’t even said about Hillary. And yet she can give Geraldine Ferraro a pass to make racist remarks about Obama and make the outrageous suggestion that he is only where he is because of his race. The one obvious fact that neither Hillary Rove Clinton nor Geraldine Ferraro can see is that if Obama was not Black, he would have blown Hillary out of the water a long time ago. It’s amazing that he has gotten as far as he has in the race for the White House considering the fact that he is Black.

    Geraldine Ferraro is nothing more than a bitter old woman. She knows the only reason why she was put on the ticket with Mondale is because she is a woman. She was way less qualified at that time to be on the ticket than Obama is today. She tried twice to become a Senator and lost both times.

    So, TP, when are you going to get real and report the real news and Hillary Rove Clinton’s throwing the kitchen sink at Obama IS news as is the Geraldine Ferraro situation.


  37. OsirisHusseinOsiris Says:

    I smell the malodorous spew of a troll with a new moniker here this morning. Fee fi fo fum - and it’s a reaking one to say the least.


  38. Doc Rock Says:

    Of course with George H. W. Bush prominent in the Carlyle Group, who would have expected otherwise? The Bush family have some history in such failures, don’t they? See

    http://www.bloomberg.com/ apps/ news?pid=20601103&sid=ai0t_0022FqY&refer=news


  39. Bobwurst Says:

    Caption Contest:

    This here is the last dollar in the treasury. I’m going use my MBA learning at Havard now to fix the econmy with it: I’m gonna buy a powerball ticket!


  40. Kay Says:

    I wonder how many Republican Mayors, Governors and Senators are screwing prostitutes as we speak.

    love,
    Kay Hussein


  41. missmolly Says:

    “During my tenor as president”

    Comment by DRxJ — March 13, 2008 @ 9:34 am

    You’ve been studying your Bushspeak!


  42. DRxJ Says:

    WHEN Obama wins the presidency yadda yadda yadda yadda yadda. Blah blah blah blah blah… tit sucking….yadda yadda yadda!
    (Look everyone, I made a reference to the female anatomy! uh huh huh!)
    Comment by Thecairngman/Joker/Bill Hilly — March 13, 2008 @ 9:26 am

    There. Fixed it for ya!


  43. Vet Says:

    “Sixty percent of Americans think the Iraq war was a mistake”
    ————————–
    And yet MAYBE 10% have a clue about the extent to which the administration lied their way into the war. A very sad commentary on the US media!


  44. Zimzone Says:

    39, Bilbo,
    Word this morning is Ferraro resigned from the Hillary campaign.

    Of course, Hillary is spinning it, but Geraldine will be known for two things; a token woman candidate & a rascist.



  45. dim wit Says:

    Lets all assume the tit sucking positon and bring on the nanny state!

    Comment by Thecairngman — March 13, 2008 @ 9:26 am

    I’m not so opposed to the “tit sucking position”

    actually I kind of like it. And if Obama is going to get me more “tits” well then, I guess Obama is the man for me.


  46. Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:

    Then groups of dozens of people, primarily college students, split up and blocked intersections and garage exits around the Hill…Dozens were arrested, most of them college students, some Vets for Peace and other old folks too.

    I am so excited to see the young people of today getting involved in politics in large numbers. They may be our savior and they are all because of Obama.

    My thirtysomething daughter who lives in California says that she knows no one who is voting Republican and she knows no one who would vote for Hillary. She has friends who did vote for Hillary and now seriously regret their vote. She told me that if they had a “do over” for California, she’s pretty sure that Hillary would lose.


  47. And the beat goes on Says:

    House vote expected on spy bill
    The plan would not shield telecom firms from old lawsuits. Bush says he would veto it.
    By Greg Miller, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
    March 13, 2008
    WASHINGTON — Defying the Bush administration, the House is expected to vote today on legislation that would expand the government’s wiretapping authority but stop short of giving telecommunications companies immunity from lawsuits for helping U.S. spy agencies.

    The planned vote represents the latest in a series of showdowns between congressional Democrats and President Bush over a controversial espionage operation that involves monitoring international e-mail and telephone traffic that travels through networks in the United States.

    http://www.latimes.com/ news/ printedition/ asection/ la-na-fisa13mar13,1,2522848.story

    So far I think this is probably the best one yet. I heard that some are just calling this a way for trial lawyers to make money.


  48. OsirisHusseinOsiris Says:

    Bilbo: I made a point to watch Keith’s scathing condemnation of Hillary last night. Impressive and absolutely on mark. Ferraro is a disgraceful bigot who has never recovered from her national slapdown due to her husband’s dirty business dealings. She saw the coveted prize so handily removed from her grasp, ostensibly thanks to him, and she’s bitter and angry about it since then. Frankly, I was never convinced that she ever had a brain in her head even back then so it didn’t bother me that she got nowhere politically.

    Hillary intentionally permitted this bigoted hate remark to hang in the air while she feigned ignorance about it. Of course, it has now backfired in her face and will cost her dearly in the coming states. But, for many of us, this is the “true hillary” - someone who is a user and who will lie to get her way. We saw it firsthand in the Florida primaries where they all agreed to NOT campaign; yet Hillary broke her word and campaigned the day before the primary there. Then she attempts to use this “bogus win” as something significant when the majority of dem voters didn’t even turn out because they knew their vote wouldn’t count. She’s a very slippery eel.


  49. robertoroberto Says:

    Photoshop can get rid of the bloodstains on that dollar Mr.President. But no pictures can be taken of you that disguise your utter contempt for human life.


  50. Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:

    If Obama wins the presidency stick a fork in America! Once socialism gets one tentacle locked in our Govt there is no turning back. One world Govt.!! Lets all assume the tit sucking positon and bring on the nanny state!

    Besides the fact that Obama has never said or done anything to indicate he has socialist tendencies, I would be remiss if I didn’t point out that all the countries in the world who are “socialist” are stable governments with a good quality of life for all their citizens. So, I say, bring on socialism!


  51. toasterhead Says:

    *** Corn based-ethanol is driving up food prices at a record rate and destroying the environment. This Genetically Modified corn is also ruining organic farms when its seeds/pollen are transported through the air. It should be considered a short-term “solution” at most until we can get millions of wind mills and solar panels installed.

    Comment by 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda — March 13, 2008 @ 9:07 am

    Corn ethanol is a boon for the agrobusiness and fossil fuel industries, but it does nothing to reduce carbon emissions.

    There is, however, a new discovery that could make cellulosic ethanol an affordable and carbon-neutral option - an enzyme found in a bacteria native to the Chesapeake Bay:

    http://toasterheadsblogosphere.blogspot.com/ 2008/ 03/ good-news-for-biofuels.html


  52. hil_1 Says:

    #39 FOR THE WIN!!!
    TP quit showing your bias and allow posts about ALL the canidates no matter the issue! This Farraro mess deserves discussion and Hillary’s apathy towards it should be brought to the brightest of lights!


  53. OsirisHusseinOsiris Says:

    #51 Let the trial lawyers fly! Then each of these telecom lawsuits will be heard with full evidence which will tank Bush totally. What he asked them to do was totally illegal and disguised behind national security letters which do not replace the FISA laws which make what he did absolutely illegal.

    Furthermore, I can see these suits piercing through to Bush and Cheney personally perhaps which would be just desserts for this duo.


  54. toasterhead Says:

    Is this a parody post? Or do you just have nothing intelligent to say this morning?

    Comment by missmolly — March 13, 2008 @ 9:36 am

    Oh, no. He has nothing intelligent to say ever.


  55. DRxJ Says:

    Comment by Thecairngman — March 13, 2008 @ 9:45 am
    Post #53.
    Wow. Just plain….wow.
    Ya know, you may want to lay off the crystal meth first thing in the morning.
    Just a suggestion from your ol’ uncle
    D Hussein RxJ


  56. OsirisHusseinOsiris Says:

    Bilbo: I’d take socialism over fascism any day of the week. What we have right now with the corporations running roughshod over the people is textbook fascism.


  57. missmolly Says:

    Comment by Bilbo Hussein Baggins — March 13, 2008 @ 9:38 am

    Brilliant — you stated my sentiments about Geraldine Ferraro’s remarks exactly.

    I note Ferraro is a bit confused about her black men, though. She claims that Obama wouldn’t be where he is today if he wasn’t black — and everybody knows that assessment is more properly applied to Clarence Thomas.


  58. OsirisHusseinOsiris Says:

    Is this troll one of the idiot “regulars”?


  59. Zimzone Says:

    Great way to start our morning. A phucking Troll who can’t speak, write or think.

    Is the best you got, KKKarl?


  60. dim wit Says:

    Comment by Zimzone — March 13, 2008 @ 9:41 am

    Yeah! Bring on the Hillary hate. Whoo hoo!

    We have:
    -an endless war in Iraq
    -huge budget deficits
    -a free falling dollar
    -sky rocketing oil prices
    -a crisis in the health care industry
    -pending recession
    -curtailed individual liberties
    -increased joblessness
    -and a host of other issues

    None of which are a direct result of Clinton, but who cares? Lets still attack her anyway!

    She comes from the deep! She’s a monster! She has tits large enough to supoport a socialist nanny state! AHHHH! She’s Hillary Clinton.


  61. Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:

    Word this morning is Ferraro resigned from the Hillary campaign.
    Of course, Hillary is spinning it, but Geraldine will be known for two things; a token woman candidate & a rascist.
    Comment by Zimzone

    She did resign, last night. But you need to read her resignation letter. She said she is resigning so that she can speak freely. She thinks that way what she says won’t slop over onto Hillary. Until such time as Hillary Rove Clinton condemns and repudiates Geraldine Ferraro, every racist thing she says will fall into Clinton’s lap.

    She made Obama “repudiate” Farrakhan along with condemning him and what Farrakhan said many years ago had nothing to do with Hillary or the campaign. The only way Hillary can pull her bacon out of the fire on this one (and I may already be too late) will be to completely repudiate and condemn Geraldine Ferraro.


  62. hellinabucket Says:

    Not surprised about the tactics from Mrs. Clinton. She’s no stranger to hard ball campaigning. I am dissappointed in TP for ignoring this topic. It gives ammo to the those who say this site isn’t truthful.

    The truth hurts sometimes but it’s better than being lied to.


  63. Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:

    None of which are a direct result of Clinton, but who cares? Lets still attack her anyway!
    She comes from the deep! She’s a monster! She has tits large enough to supoport a socialist nanny state! AHHHH! She’s Hillary Clinton.
    Comment by dim wit

    No one here is saying that world affairs are Clinton’s fault. We are condemning and repudiating her hate filled Rovian tactics. I’m quite sure if Obama had done half of what Hillary has done you would be all over him.

    Don’t you care that Hillary is fracturing the Democratic Party? Don’t you care that Hillary seems to think that the world would be better off with a McCain presidency than an Obama presidency?


  64. 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda Says:

    I made a point to watch Keith’s scathing condemnation of Hillary last night. Impressive and absolutely on mark.

    Comment by OsirisHusseinOsiris — March 13, 2008 @ 9:43 am

    Since Keith has now shown that he will go after centrist Democrats when they act in atrociously disgusting ways that hurt the party will he also go after Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Steny Hoyer etc.?

    What these three have done to the party outweighs the dirty tricks Hillary is using in her campaign a thousand to one.

    Reid, Pelosi and Hoyer could’ve stopped the War but chose not to. They could’ve followed through on investigations of high crimes but chose not to. They could’ve acted as a “check” on the Executive Branch but chose not to.

    Where’s the outrage Keith?


  65. tarazan Says:

    It is amazing that Bush still denies that our current economic conditions is linked to spending billions daily on Iraq war. Bush denied latley that Iraq has anything to do with our bad economic situation now.

    If our government’s Chief Executive Officer can’t see that spending all these billions of dollars on wars using borrowed money from abroad,is the big reason of what we are in economically ,then we as people are in deep trouble.


  66. OsirisHusseinOsiris Says:

    One other thing that troubles me is Hillary’s use of the phrase “as far as I know” which is just another cheap shot of the old genre so pathetically overt that it makes one gag. I can’t recall how she applied this phrase but it also hung in the air like someone’s bean flatulation from yesterday.


  67. hellinabucket Says:

    thought the same thing Bilbo. There was a 5 minute debate on rejecting vs. denouncing all brought on by Clinton’s outrage at someone supporting Obama.

    Here’s someone who was inside Clinton’s campaign and Clinton couldn’t find her moral compass until the story had festered.

    I’m looking for change we can believe in.


  68. toasterhead Says:

    its all about freedom and if you think taking it away will save this country then you my friend are in for a long miserable life!

    Comment by Thecairngman — March 13, 2008 @ 9:35 am

    I’m glad to see that you oppose warrantless wiretapping and indefinite detention of terror suspects and renditions and telco immunity and secret terror watch lists and corporate deputization and all of the other violations of civil liberties we speak out against daily on this site.

    Welcome to the Secular Progressive club. You’ll be receiving your flammable flag, gay marriage license, and pocket copy of the Qur’an in the mail any day now.


  69. Zimzone Says:

    dim wit,
    We’ll never agree on candidates, but I don’t hate Hillary. Far from it. We need her in the Senate.

    What I hate is a Democrat using Republic tactics.

    Do you support her MO, to date?


  70. OsirisHusseinOsiris Says:

    #71 - When I heard Bush making that moronic statement publicly, I knew that he’d finally gone over the edge. Perhaps in textbook economic theory, these two can be separated but ONLY in theory. As we all know, the global (nationally) repercussions of this war in every aspect of our economy and lifestyle is staggering. I guess there’s no fool like an old fool and Bush certainly qualifies (or a brain dead one) but the people are no longer fooled by him or any of his cadre of liars.


  71. OsirisHusseinOsiris Says:

    It’s all about “rejecting” Hillary’s GOPig tactics; With McSame it’s all about “repudiating”.


  72. pete Says:

    Caption:

    The Dollar is strong. This bill will always be worth a hundred pennies.


  73. OsirisHusseinOsiris Says:

    It’s beginning to feel to me like Bush is intentionally trying to tank our economy so it will place the middle class in a totally crippled, subservient position where Fascism can come in and seal the deal. Otherwise, how can anyone explain Bush’s method of accounting? Criminal Accounting 101?


  74. Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:

    Since Keith has now shown that he will go after centrist Democrats when they act in atrociously disgusting ways that hurt the party will he also go after Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Steny Hoyer etc.?

    I guess you don’t watch Countdown. Keith has frequently criticized Pelosi and Reid for their lack of courage and a spine. Keith Olbermann is one of the few honest people on TV. He criticizes those who deserve criticism, except for those who work for MSNBC, but that’s because his bosses won’t let him.


  75. Marie Says:

    Great post at #39, Bilbo.


  76. dim wit Says:

    Comment by Bilbo Hussein Baggins — March 13, 2008 @ 9:56 am

    When have I ever criticized Obama? I haven’t. And unless he does something particular egregious, I won’t.

    It just seems there are so many more pressing issues.

    Not to mention if this site is so “pro-Hillary” why do all of you Hillary haters hang out here? Not saying you can’t. Just doesn’t make sense to me.


  77. OsirisHusseinOsiris Says:

    #70 He has done that in the past. He’s had commentary about this Congress and impeachment. Check out his archives. I do agree that it’s time for another “hit” on Pelosi and Reid by Kieth. I believe he knows the “why” of why they’re not moving forward and it’s called “illegal wiretapping/blackmail” by this administration.


  78. Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:

    One other thing that troubles me is Hillary’s use of the phrase “as far as I know” which is just another cheap shot of the old genre so pathetically overt that it makes one gag. I can’t recall how she applied this phrase but it also hung in the air like someone’s bean flatulation from yesterday.

    She said that when she was asked if she thought that Obama was a Muslim. Her answer was despicable and intended to plant a seed of doubt. I’m sorry but I agree with Samantha Powers, Hillary Rove Clinton has become a monster.


  79. toasterhead Says:

    It’s beginning to feel to me like Bush is intentionally trying to tank our economy so it will place the middle class in a totally crippled, subservient position where Fascism can come in and seal the deal.

    Comment by OsirisHusseinOsiris — March 13, 2008 @ 10:02 am

    It’s just beginning to feel that way now?

    Seems to me that this has been the neocon’s plan since they were interning for Scoop Jackson in the 1970s. Bush is just the tool they used to put all the pieces together.


  80. toasterhead Says:

    Bush is just the tool they used to put all the pieces together.

    Comment by toasterhead — March 13, 2008 @ 10:05 am

    And they would’ve gotten away with it, too, if it werent for us meddling secular progressives.


  81. Zimzone Says:

    “My fellow citizens, at this hour, American and coalition forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free its people and to defend the world from grave danger… My fellow citizens, the dangers to our country and the world will be overcome. We will pass through this time of peril and carry on the work of peace. We will defend our freedom. We will bring freedom to others and we will prevail.” -GWB 3/19/03

    The Pentagon can withhold the truth, but the Chimp’s words will live in American history infamy.


  82. OsirisHusseinOsiris Says:

    dim wit: I don’t see it that way. I wouln’t characterize the TP posters as “hillary haters” by any stretch; in fact, with Obama and Hillary, it is really the “lesser of two greats” at this point when compared with the unqualified nominee of the GOP. It’s more about the status quo in washington replete with sleazy tactics and serious questions about the Clinton’s past which probably make her unelectable contrasted to the positive hope energy emanating from Obama for real “change” in the status quo.


  83. Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:

    When have I ever criticized Obama? I haven’t. And unless he does something particular egregious, I won’t.

    Never said you had. Just said you probably would if Obama had done half of what Hillary has done.

    It just seems there are so many more pressing issues.

    That is true, and one of them is who wins the Presidency. I notice you did not answer my questions at the end of my comment. So I’ll ask one again. Doesn’t it bother you that Hillary seems to think that a McCain Presidency is better than an Obama presidency? Do you think this country can survive four more years of Republicans in the White House?

    Not to mention if this site is so “pro-Hillary” why do all of you Hillary haters hang out here? Not saying you can’t. Just doesn’t make sense to me.

    We “haters” hang out here because this is where we choose to express our views. If you don’t like it, tough $hit.

    Comment by dim wit

    Lately you are sure living up to your moniker. Couldn’t have chosen a better one if you tried.


  84. OsirisHusseinOsiris Says:

    toaster: agreed. Bush is the ultimate “tool” who is not intelligent enough to even begin to comprehend how he’s been used. We know who the real architects of 911, the war, and all foul which has followed it happen to be.


  85. OsirisHusseinOsiris Says:

    TS, indeed! If the troll can’t handle free speech and the expression of one’s individual truth, he can STFU.


  86. And the beat goes on Says:

    Will American war crimes be revealed? Submitted by Sheila Samples

    More than 100 veterans will gather over the next several days for “Winter Soldier: Iraq and Afghanistan.” The event is designed to be another purging of the horrors of war, and another effort to put American military policy on trial in the public eye. The gathering this time, at the National Labor College outside Washington, D.C., is sponsored by the group Iraq Veterans Against the War.

    http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/link.php?id=54256

    Thank God for Winter Soldiers. I think what they must have gone through and will testify to will enrage anyone sitting on the fence about why we need to get out of Iraq. Will probably have to read about it in the foreign press, though.


  87. Mr. Evil Says:

    And if Obama is going to get me more “tits” well then, I guess Obama is the man for me.

    Comment by dim wit — March 13, 2008 @ 9:42 am

    Hell Yeah!!! Tit sucking socialism. Sounds good to me!


  88. katy HUSSEIN katy Says:

    Carlyle Fund Expects Assets Will Be Seized
    New York Times - 1 hour ago
    By JULIA WERDIGIER LONDON - Shares of Carlyle Capital plunged on Thursday, losing most of their value, after the company said it expected its lenders to promptly take over all its assets after discussions with banks to refinance the fund failed.
    Carlyle Capital in default, on brink of collapse Reuters
    Carlyle Capital On Brink Of Collapse Forbes

    pappy & buds?


  89. 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda Says:

    I guess you don’t watch Countdown. Keith has frequently criticized Pelosi and Reid for their lack of courage and a spine. Keith Olbermann is one of the few honest people on TV. He criticizes those who deserve criticism, except for those who work for MSNBC, but that’s because his bosses won’t let him.

    Comment by Bilbo Hussein Baggins — March 13, 2008 @ 10:02 am

    He’s never taken ‘em out to the woodshed like he did Hillary last night. He’s never even approached that level of attack against them.

    Keith qualified that he gave a great deal of thought before his Special Comment last night. Why? He should just tell the truth and ignore the D’s and R’s. We’d all be better off for it.


  90. katy HUSSEIN katy Says:

    uh oh… this one will REALLY rile the fundies…

    Archbishop in Iraq ‘found dead’
    BBC News - 1 hour ago
    Paulos Faraj Rahho, the Chaldean Catholic archbishop in Iraq who was kidnapped last month, has been found dead, according to reports.
    Body of Chaldean Catholic archbishop is found near northern city … International Herald Tribune
    Kidnapped Iraq archbishop dead-Catholic news agency Reuters


  91. katy HUSSEIN katy Says:

    US Retail Sales Unexpectedly Declined in February (Update2)
    Bloomberg - 1 hour ago
    By Bob Willis March 13 (Bloomberg) — Retail sales in the US unexpectedly fell in February, indicating that declines in payrolls and home values and a surge in energy costs have tipped the economy into a recession.
    Feb retail sales tumble unexpectedly Reuters
    Retail Sales Plunge by 0.6 Percent The Associated Press

    what was “unexpected” about it?


  92. onoclea Says:

    I’d like to know why Dennis Kucinich and Maxine Waters voted against the waterboarding override. I’ve checked Dennis’s website for a press release to explain, but nothing yet.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/ stories/ 2008/ 03/ 11/ ap/ congress/ main3927680.shtml


  93. katy HUSSEIN katy Says:

    STD Data Come as No Surprise, Area Teenagers Say
    Washington Post - 11 hours ago
    By Laura Sessions Stepp and Katherine Shaver Elizabeth Alderman, adolescent specialist at the Children’s Hospital at Montefiore Medical Center in New York, was astounded by a federal report this week showing that two out of five teenage girls who have …

    they should feel very cheated…
    the “elders”, forgetting their own teen urges and ignorance,
    have let them down…


  94. Mr. Evil Says:

    We know who the real architects of 911, the war, and all foul which has followed it happen to be.

    Comment by OsirisHusseinOsiris — March 13, 2008 @ 10:08 am

    And hopefully one of them will come clean. Maybe one person on the inside will finally have an epiphany and set the record straight once and for all. We can have numerous, simultaneous trials and the American public will finally awaken to just how bad we were used and lied to. Just so a tiny few can have all the money and power they crave at all costs.


  95. Bluedahlia Says:

    Sixty percent of Americans think the Iraq war was a mistake, according to a new USA Today poll. The same number also favors a timetable for troop withdrawal, regardless of the situation in Iraq, while 54 percent believe that history will judge the war as mostly or a total failure. A Pew poll found that 53 percent of Americans think the U.S. will ultimately achieve its goals in Iraq.

    While at the same time, those same 53% could not name what those goals are…..


  96. 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda Says:

    I’d like to know why Dennis Kucinich and Maxine Waters voted against the waterboarding override. I’ve checked Dennis’s website for a press release to explain, but nothing yet.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/ stories/ 2008/ 03/ 11/ ap/ congress/ main3927680.shtml

    Comment by onoclea — March 13, 2008 @ 10:18 am

    Dennis ALWAYS makes votes like these for reasons of conscience or technicality. While I haven’t heard his explanation I bet it’d be along the lines that we already have multiple laws that state waterboarding is torture so there’s no need to vote on it again. He’d probably say that this legislation will be used as an excuse not to prosecute those who ordered waterboarding and doesn’t want any part of it.


  97. Fred Says:

    If Obama wins the presidency stick a fork in America! Once socialism gets one tentacle locked in our Govt there is no turning back. One world Govt.!! Lets all assume the tit sucking positon and bring on the nanny state!

    Comment by Thecairngman

    I guess i could find some link you back up my statement. But if i’m the in house troll i find it more fun just to post statement’s that have no truth according you everyone here!

    Comment by Thecairngman

    I guess you don’t find police or firemen to be socialism? They work for the people and are paid by the government…….no company there…….I guess that pretty much proves that your statements have no truth in them doesn’t it?


  98. onoclea Says:

    Comment by 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda — March 13, 2008 @ 10:26 am

    That sounds like a lame excuse. As a person who gave him money for both of his prez bids and most recently in his effort to keep his house seat I am feeling a bit like a fool.


  99. dim wit Says:

    Comment by Bilbo Hussein Baggins — March 13, 2008 @ 10:07 am

    You said: “I’m quite sure if Obama had done half of what Hillary has done you would be all over him.” which implies I would be more critical of Obama than I would of Hillary

    Doesn’t it bother you that Hillary seems to think that a McCain Presidency is better than an Obama presidency?

    -Yes

    Do you think this country can survive four more years of Republicans in the White House?

    -survive? Yes I don’t think America will collapse into ruble if McCain wins. Do I want to see McCain win? No. Who do I think is the best candidate? Obama - I have said that repeatedly.

    - -

    “We “haters” hang out here because this is where we choose to express our views. If you don’t like it, tough $hit.” Yep. Tough shit for me.

    - -

    So, the issue I have with the Hillary Haters is that there are far more pressing problems. When I go to the gas station I see and feel the cost of increasing gas prices. When I turn on the TV, I see the repricussions of the failed Iraq War. I see and feel the decrease in the value of the dollar. These are all tangible and they affect me personally in ways that the words of Hillary Clinton never can.

    Yet you want to focus on the bliovations of a politician.

    Personally, I also find it amusing (albeit, in a very disappointing way) that I am so criticized by my fellow “liberals.” I have consistently posted liberal leaning commentary, yet once I stroll off the approved viewpoint I am attacked. And what am I attacked for? Saying there should be tolerance of Hillary Clinton. Shit, I think I’ve even been called a “troll” for expressing a slightly different, yet still consistently liberal, opinion. Truly amazing.


  100. katy HUSSEIN katy Says:

    Ferraro fails to grasp why she’s so wrong
    Obama’s appeal not about race, but how he transcends it

    March 13, 2008
    BY MARY MITCHELL Sun-Times Columnist
    Geraldine Ferraro still doesn’t get it. On Wednesday, Ferraro was forced to resign from Sen. Hillary Clinton’s finance committee after remarks she made about Sen. Barack Obama were widely interpreted as being racist.
    […]
    http://www.suntimes.com/ news/ mitchell/ 840277,CST-NWS-mitch13.article

    Obama’s appeal not about race, but how he transcends it

    eggs-actly.


  101. ThinkOutsideTheBush Says:

    Don’t forget public schools. Those are socialist too. And garbage pickup. Let’s take away his mommy’s medicare also.


  102. Bluedahlia Says:

    dim wit,
    Yeah, I don’t post that often because that same shit of eating your own if it is not the popular position of the day really gets me down. There are a lot of people here that find a lot more self-importance in trying to make your opinion “wrong”. Good luck. Liberal progressive indeed.


  103. katy HUSSEIN katy Says:

    And what am I attacked for? Saying there should be tolerance of Hillary Clinton. …
    Comment by dim wit — March 13, 2008 @ 10:38 am

    what we “hillary haters” (a total misnomer) are not tolerating
    are her rovian republiCAN’T tactics…

    and, if you feel you are being “attacked”, it is because you seem to be
    DEFENDING those tactics…

    the ONLY reason that i did not want hillary to run, and would not vote
    for her, is because of the “clinton-did-it” fatigue…
    now, there are many other more important reasons…

    and i am saddened by what she is doing.


  104. 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda Says:

    That sounds like a lame excuse. As a person who gave him money for both of his prez bids and most recently in his effort to keep his house seat I am feeling a bit like a fool.

    Comment by onoclea — March 13, 2008 @ 10:35 am

    You’re entitled to your opinion. I wonder why you support Dennis because he makes these counter-votes all the time. He’s trying to make a statement with his vote. Again, the explanation I gave was my own, not Dennis’.


  105. Marie Says:

    The ACLU is reporting that the supposedly banned Total Information Awareness program has never been killed and is in fact in full use by the Bush government.


  106. katy HUSSEIN katy Says:

    Florida Dems devise do-over plan for primary
    CNN International - 45 minutes ago
    (CNN) — Florida Democrats want a do-over, and state party officials have a proposal for recouping the 210 delegates that the Sunshine State lost when it moved its primary ahead of the approved time frame.
    Florida Democratic Party pushes for a primary do-over Los Angeles Times
    The Delegate fight: Re-do on June 3? MSNBC

    watch out for the finacing of this…
    i’m not crazy about wealthy, privately funded elections…


  107. Fred Says:

    106, 102

    how about it Thecairngman. What should we do about all of those tenacles of socialism?


  108. katy HUSSEIN katy Says:

    marie, i was reading some of that yesterday… some links:

    Read Your National Journal, ACLU
    Atlantic Online - 22 hours ago
    … today to a stunning new report that the NSA has effectively revived the Orwellian “Total Information Awareness” domestic-spying….” Not so fast, ACLU. …

    Daily Kos: ACLU
    Raw Story, MA - Mar 11, 2008
    It is nothing less than the return of TIA: “Total Information Awareness.” Yet there has been barely any followup coverage of the story in the mainstream …

    Creeping totalitarianism: The NSA, personal data and you
    ZDNet - Mar 10, 2008
    For example, during the year immediately after 9/11, NSA attempted to set up a Total Information Awareness network, which was meant to grab all data about …

    FISA isn’t the worst of it
    Clarksville Online, TN - Feb 25, 2008
    John Poindexter headed the creation of DARPA’s Total Information Awareness (TIA - which was quickly renamed the Terrorist Information Awareness) system, …

    http://news.google.com/ news?hl=en&ned=&q=total+information+awareness%2C+ACLU&btnG=Search+News


  109. katy HUSSEIN katy Says:

    Hillary Clinton apologizes to African Americans for husband’s comments

    File this under “Better late than never.” The AP reports that Hillary Clinton apologized Wednesday night for Bill Clinton’s comments during the South Carolina Democratic primary showdown with Barack Obama.

    At a forum sponsored by an association of African American community newspapers, Clinton was asked about her husband’s comments after Obama walked away with the South Carolina win in January. At the time, Bill Clinton pointed out that Rev. Jesse Jackson had won South Carolina in 1984 and 1988 — campaigns that went nowhere. The comments were perceived as dismissing Obama’s win, and many African Americans took umbrage.

    “I want to put that in context,” Hillary Clinton said Wednesday night. “You know I am sorry if anyone was offended. It was certainly not meant in any way to be offensive.” She went on to say…


  110. katy HUSSEIN katy Says:

    interesting…

    YouTube and TiVo Shake Hands In Promising Partnership
    eFluxMedia - 5 hours ago
    By Dee Chisamera YouTube is expanding on a global scale and plans to go from just being an internet site to becoming a TV destination, as TiVo Inc. made an announcement on Wednesday on a new partnership that plans to bring YouTube videos directly on …
    TiVo and YouTube to Deliver Web Video to TV New York Times
    YouTube getting TV shot from TiVo Los Angeles Times

    i just may have to get that tivo thingy… heh…


  111. katy HUSSEIN katy Says:

    Organization of Islamic Conference Summit Opens in Senegal
    Voice of America - 1 hour ago
    By VOA News The Organization of the Islamic Conference opened its 11th summit Thursday in Senegal’s capital, Dakar, bringing together dozens of heads of state and the UN secretary general.
    Muslim leaders open summit amid new tensions AFP
    Senegal: OIC to Reduce Inequality Amongst Islamic States AllAfrica.com


  112. katy HUSSEIN katy Says:

    busy busy busy…

    Multiple mea culpas for Clinton
    Boston Globe - 52 minutes ago
    An unusually contrite Hillary Clinton apologized Wednesday night to leaders of 200 black community newspapers for any offense caused by her husband’s comments comparing Barack Obama’s victory in the South Carolina primary to Jesse Jackson’s in 1984 and …

    when in rome…


  113. Uncle Ho Says:

    the Iraq war was no mistake. It was a deliberate, malevolent, conspiracy by the highest officials to wage an illegal war of raw, naked, aggression.


  114. mary Says:

    Outside our national political scene for the moment but very ominious:

    “A senior government official confirmed Tuesday the beginning of the first step in a process that could land Venezuela in joining North Korea, Cuba, Sudan, Syria and Iran as countries accused by the US State Department as supporters of terrorism.”
    snip
    “The legal review came after Colombia claimed it has captured documents suggesting that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez was in the process of providing $300 million to the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC.”

    In my opinion, it would be a very big mistake to take such a provocative move. Do we want to pick a fight with most of South America?

    Besides, according to Greg Palast, the “300″ number found in an email in the seized computer probably referred to the 300 hostages that Chavez was in the process of negotiating release for - NOT $300 Million! Yet the MSM gobbled up the official U.S. inference.

    http://www.gregpalast.com/ 300-million-from-chavez-to-farc-a-fake/

    I smell misinformation and it stinks!


  115. Juan C. Says:

    the Iraq war was no mistake. It was a deliberate, malevolent, conspiracy by the highest officials to wage an illegal war of raw, naked, aggression.
    Comment by Uncle Ho

    You got it, sir.

    Dim wit: I’m with you.


  116. judyinnm Says:

    If 53% of Americans believe the US will “ultimately achieve its goals” in Iraq, maybe they could tell the rest of us exactly what the “goals” are, now. Over the past five years our purported goals have changed so often, I can’t keep up.


  117. onoclea Says:

    Comment by 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda — March 13, 2008 @ 10:47 am

    I’ve supported Dennis because he was against the war before there was a war and because he is one of the few who would even mention the “I” word. And he isn’t always voting with the repubs, although some of his votes have surprised me. ie schip My original post was to speculate why he among only 3 dems would take this position and not even make an explanation as to why.


  118. RUCerious Says:

    A Pew poll found that 53 percent of Americans think the U.S. will ultimately achieve its goals in Iraq.

    Well, that doesn’t make a damn bit of sense, based on the other survey results, now does it?


  119. RUCerious Says:

    McCain is staying on the sidelines.” He has refused to sign a letter by fellow Senate Armed Service Committee members “demanding a full audit of how the Iraqi government was spending its oil revenue.”

    And instead of crucifying his ass, Obama and Clinton snipe at each other.

    I’m calling on both campaigns to re-direct their attacks on this jackass, instead of each other.


  120. katy HUSSEIN katy Says:

    RU - listening to edschultz… he has a great, logical idea…

    nancy, steny, harry, howard - get the principals of both camps,
    2 or 3 of them, and each candidate, hillary and barack,
    get together NOW and fix this thing NOW…

    NOW.


  121. Evil Spaniard Says:

    Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), traveling to Europe next week, said he wouldn’t discuss differences with President Bush while abroad. “There are obvious differences,” he said. “I certainly won’t articulate them overseas.”

    Uhm, Johnnie Boy, we have internet out there too. We know you already.


  122. DaTruth Says:

    A never ending criminal war costing billions of dollars a month is a great way to flush the american economy down the toilet. Let the rich have it their way! Screw the middle class! Depression is just around the corner.


  123. Evil Spaniard Says:

    If Obama wins the presidency stick a fork in America! Once socialism gets one tentacle locked in our Govt there is no turning back. One world Govt.!! Lets all assume the tit sucking positon and bring on the nanny state!

    Comment by Thecairngman — March 13, 2008 @ 9:26 am

    You wouldn’t recognize Socialism if it bited your arse.

    And, what is bad with one world government? It can’t be worse than the one of GW for the USA.

    Meanwhile, assume your bend over position and be prepared to receive more Bush “great presidency action”.


  124. J Says:

    So, the right gets up in arms because Obama would “bomb Pakistan”, but what about when Bush does it:

    “Pakistan’s military has criticised US-led forces in Afghanistan for firing artillery shells across the border, killing two women and two children.”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/ 1/ hi/ world/ south_asia/ 7293680.stm


  125. tombaker Says:

    If Obama wins the presidency stick a fork in America! Once socialism gets one tentacle locked in our Govt there is no turning back. One world Govt.!! Lets all assume the tit sucking positon and bring on the nanny state!

    Comment by Thecairngman — March 13, 2008 @ 9:26 am

    This stack of rocks is even dumber than the one out in my garden.


  126. alternative Says:

    Dady, please help me: “Is it truth that the dollar is disappearing?”
    Dear son, “our new private currency is called $euro, our new private central bank is called independency and our public debt has become world fraternity.”
    By Duric Aljosa, Crom Alternative News


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