House passes FISA legislation.
By on Mar 14th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
House passes FISA legislation.
The House today passed an amendment to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act by a vote of 213-197. The legislation “does not provide retroactive immunity for telecom companies but allows the courts to determine whether lawsuits should proceed.” President Bush has threatened a veto.
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OK — step one taken care of. Now it’s just a matter of gathering enough votes to override the veto.
March 14th, 2008 at 2:41 pmVeto away junior–ya little piece of shit.
March 14th, 2008 at 2:42 pmWaitaminnit — I haven’t had enough caffeine, or I would have thought about this more. If Dubya vetoes it, he STILL doesn’t get immunity for the telecoms.
As Emily Litella said, “never mind”…
March 14th, 2008 at 2:44 pmWhen Bush vetoes, every damn Democrat in public life ought to repeat loudly, on every bobblehead show to which they can wrangle an invitation, that Bush puts the interests of the telecoms ahead of safety for Americans.
This is such an easy argument to make that I don’t understand why it’s not conventional wisdom by now.
March 14th, 2008 at 2:45 pmQuick, alert the press, I think I see a vertebrae showing in the Dem party
March 14th, 2008 at 2:45 pmmolly — when that comes. . .
consider this full-sized image
from page 73 of the just-released
2006 DoJ OIG report on FBI abuses
of the NSL provisions, and the pat-
riot act section 215 “business
records” provisions. these are abuses
to which the FBI has already admitted!
[just click on the smaller image
to enlarge it, read it through, and
print it, and send it out! easy!]
light em up!
p e a c e
March 14th, 2008 at 2:45 pmLet him veto it. Let’s make sure the truth is known that no gapping holes will be in our shield against terrorism.
Bush will have to explain himself how he could say that the bill is worth than no law at all (read the current laws that cover all already).
“There’s nothing to fear but fear itself”
March 14th, 2008 at 2:46 pmHAH! I scooped TP this morning!
I posted this almost an hr ago!
Long Live Me! Long Live Me!
March 14th, 2008 at 2:47 pmGo ahead, George.
March 14th, 2008 at 2:48 pmShow us again and again and again what a complete moron you are.
Of course the War Criminal will Veto it, when things go to court things get publicity and when things get publicity they get noticed and when they get noticed even the most loyal American Idol watcher will notice, and then just maybe the War Criminal will be impeached, but then again, he will be out of office by then (hopefully he will leave peacefully).
But all in all, the War Criminal just might pull off another 9/11 and fool most of the American public that is not paying attention, you know, like, cancel the elections, or bomb Iran, something to distract the sheeple, again.
Bush/Cheney
March 14th, 2008 at 2:48 pmHague Trials ‘09
YAY!
Maybe this time Congress won’t cave…
March 14th, 2008 at 2:49 pmYou’re right, missmolly. If he vetoes the bill he won’t get his precious immunity for his co-conspirators, the telecoms.
I have to wonder though. If he is so adamant about protecting some corporations from lawsuits because they broke the law at his illegal request, why is he attaching this immunity to passage of any FISA renewal law? Why do they both have to happen at the same time? Besides, even if he vetoes the bill, and even if the Republicans can show some backbone and override Bush’s veto, what makes anyone think the illegal wiretapping won’t stop? The telecoms knew the wiretapping was illegal and unconstitutional, but that didn’t stop them from cooperating anyway. What did manage to stop them was when the federal government failed to pay its bills. To the telecoms, even “protecting national security” took a back seat to making money. And conservatives wonder why we liberals think they hate America?
March 14th, 2008 at 2:49 pmStamp your feet and pound the lectern, too, you petulant little Chimp!
March 14th, 2008 at 2:51 pmnow why would bush veto legislation that gives him a get out of jail free card?
think president obama will pardon him?
hehehe.
March 14th, 2008 at 4:04 pmFirst, the bill has to go back to the Senate. It’s going to be interesting to see what the Senate does this time. And if Bush vetoes it, so be it. Then Congress can put it aside until after the Democratic president takes office and do it right.
March 14th, 2008 at 4:04 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
When Bush vetoes, every damn Democrat in public life ought to repeat loudly, on every bobblehead show to which they can wrangle an invitation, that Bush puts the interests of the telecoms ahead of safety for Americans.
.
what was it keith “mistakinly” called it? the “Protect American Corporations Act”?
March 14th, 2008 at 4:04 pmWho you gonna call?
BILLBUSTERS!
March 14th, 2008 at 4:05 pmIt’s about time Congress stood up to Commander Cuckoo Bananas the tap-dancing nut-case that occupies the White House.
March 14th, 2008 at 4:14 pmConference committee first. We’ll see what gets reported out of that…
March 14th, 2008 at 4:48 pmI’d like to know why Kucinich voted Nay.
March 14th, 2008 at 4:52 pmBush won’t get the chance to veto it because the Senate won’t pass the House bill. Bush will once again try to sow fear throughout the land….
March 14th, 2008 at 5:09 pmI’m not celebrating yet ….. but this is good news.
Time for everybody in congress to go to their tailor and have some alterations done so they can have room for those newly found balls.
And let little boots veto.
send him the same bill over and over again until he chokes on it.
March 14th, 2008 at 5:37 pmkharma Says:
March 14th, 2008 at 7:17 pmMarch 14th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Veto away junior–ya little piece of
NO, no, no, he is one very large piece of SHIT…
“…In recent weeks (Bush) has used escalating rhetoric to make his case for immunity, claiming that it is unfair to subject the telecoms to “billions of dollars” in legal costs when the White House assured them their actions were legal.”
Well, the CEO of Qwest knew it was illegal.
Were the rest of these morons completely oblivious to the illegalities of spying on American citizens? Ignorance of the law is no excuse (ask any judge).
Let the lame duck use his veto pen all he wants. It won’t stop the lawsuits, and it won’t make us “less safe” (after all, the FISA law is still in effect).
March 14th, 2008 at 8:07 pm>Veto away junior–ya little piece of shit.
Amen.. Bush will look like the corporation defending tool that he is, and the bill is crappy and unnecessary anyway. I have a strong feeling the 9th circuit is going to tell Bush to shove the ludicrous “state secrets” doctrine up his @ss,
March 15th, 2008 at 3:36 amand hopefully by the time this case gets to the supreme court, we will have a new president who will drop the obsctructionist tactics…
I have to wonder though. If he is so adamant about protecting some corporations from lawsuits because they broke the law at his illegal request, why is he attaching this immunity to passage of any FISA renewal law? Why do they both have to happen at the same time? Besides, even if he vetoes the bill, and even if the Republicans can show some backbone and override Bush’s veto, what makes anyone think the illegal wiretapping won’t stop? The telecoms knew the wiretapping was illegal and unconstitutional, but that didn’t stop them from cooperating anyway. What did manage to stop them was when the federal government failed to pay its bills. To the telecoms, even “protecting national security” took hp f2019a battery,hp f2019b battery a back seat to making money. And conservatives wonder why we liberals think they hate America?
October 15th, 2008 at 5:18 am