Oklahoma conservatives ’stand with’ Kern.
By on Mar 16th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Oklahoma conservatives ’stand with’ Kern.
Oklahoma State Rep. Sally Kern recently made a host of incendiary and insulting remarks towards gays. For example, she said gays are a “bigger threat” to our nation than terrorism and claimed gays would be the “death knell” of this country. While her comments have garnered widespread condemnation, back home in Oklahoma, Kern has received support from her fellow Republicans:
“I would submit to you that the vast majority of the folks in our caucus, particularly those who consider themselves conservative, stand with and support Sally,” said state Rep. Randy Terrill.
Here’s video of Kern’s offensive remarks:
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Hopefully they’ll all be raptured.
March 16th, 2008 at 1:31 pmcheck out ellen’s pushback on this… great!
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/03/14/pushback-on-sally-kerns-anti-gay-rant-its-ellen-on-the-phone/
March 16th, 2008 at 1:33 pmCheck out the prior thread. It’s not just Botch that’s making the Greedy Old Pervert party go the way of the dinosaur.
God bless every one of these racist, homophobic, misogynistic jerks.
And if they weren’t so darned offensive, they’d be funny.
March 16th, 2008 at 1:42 pmGays!! They’re the new blacks for these dumb Okies. They give Tom Joad a bad name.
March 16th, 2008 at 1:46 pmAnd she says, probably with a “straight” face I’m not gay bashing. I wonder what she says when she is gay bashing.
March 16th, 2008 at 1:48 pmWith so many issues how can sexual preference be an issue? Good grief Kern get a life ! Sexual deviants crosses male female, gay, hetro. It is not exclusive. Can we please get some intelligent, educated Representatives ?
March 16th, 2008 at 1:53 pmThe views expressed are those of the individual and do not represent the views of mentally balanced Oklahomans.
The Bible Belt Buckle is strapped tight and often doesn’t allow proper blood flow to the brain.
March 16th, 2008 at 1:54 pm“I would submit to you that the vast majority of the folks in our caucus, particularly those who consider themselves conservative, stand with and support Sally,” said state Rep. Randy Terrill.
And a muffled cheer of support rattled the republican closets of Hypocrite, Oklahoma…
March 16th, 2008 at 1:57 pmtexaslady Says: March 16th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Can we please get some intelligent, educated Representatives ?
First you need intelligent, educated voters to elect them….
March 16th, 2008 at 1:58 pmBrain dead bigots are a threat to civilized society. Move wedge issue tactics from greedy lying power hungry right wing extremists.
March 16th, 2008 at 2:00 pmMore “Christian” hate.
March 16th, 2008 at 2:00 pmWayne – you are very right…but so many are working two jobs and balancing family needs…hard to find time to read all view points.
March 16th, 2008 at 2:05 pmEver ask a church goer where their beliefs are listed in the Bible ? Where does the Bible promote hate? And from what I have read sure alot of contradictions.
March 16th, 2008 at 2:07 pmtexaslady Says:
March 16th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Wayne – you are very right…but so many are working two jobs and balancing family needs…hard to find time to read all view points.
Working families should never vote Republican.
What was that old saying? Oh Yeah.
“A working man voting for a Republican is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.”
Old saying, but still so true.
March 16th, 2008 at 2:10 pmMost Repubs feel they have worked hard and Dems just want to give money to poor, lazy people. Repubs will quote the high taxes they have to pay forgetting the largesse they have had getting to their income level. Everyone has had a place at the feedbunk some just choose to forget it.
March 16th, 2008 at 2:15 pmYeah…all the little d!ck male conservatives are standing behind her alright, she’s the alpha. Say some sick and twisted comments and you get a cult following. And we were worried about suicide cults and compounds in Waco. *sarcasm*
March 16th, 2008 at 2:20 pmMore fear and hatred.
*sigh*
March 16th, 2008 at 2:23 pmIf she believes what she says she would have to stop standing beside half of the elected GOP. Why isnt she calling for the resignation of Vitter and Craig? Why does she hate Jeff Gannon? What about the culture of corruption? What about the prostitutes that will be working the GOP convention? Why does she hate the log cabin GOP? Why does she think Dick Cheneys daughter is a terrorist?
TP, your ‘posting to quickly’ timer needs to be extended somewhat. Its irritatingly short.
March 16th, 2008 at 2:28 pm.
Hea, you’re not a good loyal Republican if you don’t HATE!
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March 16th, 2008 at 2:32 pmWayne Says:
Working families should never vote Republican.
Preachers and employers in okla tell them how to vote and they obey. The preachers are the worst, at least an employer doing it isn’t illegal. Most local employment opportunities are oil related…Williams, Phillips, etc.
okla has got to be the most backward state in the nation. I live there part of the time so I know. They just passed sweeping immigration legislation that is the harhest in the nation….includes profiling of latino’s.
32000 latino’s left our area in a 2-3 month period of time. Now the wealthy people are upset because they no longer have somone to clean up after an ice storm for slave wages….the limbs remain even now months after the storm.
No one in the bible belt hates more than the people in the buckle(okla).
March 16th, 2008 at 2:34 pmYou gotta love it. The Republicans support people who make offensive remarks like this one. But, Obama’s minister makes, what look like offensive remarks when cherry picked out of a sermon, and we should all condemn Obama for it.
How hypocritical can we be?
March 16th, 2008 at 2:35 pmI’d be more afraid of exposing my sons to someone like this stupid woman, than a room full of gays.
BTW, this woman says she taught school for 20+ years. Can you imagine having to listen to that voice every single day for an entire school year. What about her husband or children? OMG…
March 16th, 2008 at 2:41 pmNut Job Christians and Nut Job Muslims seem to agree on an awful lot. Why can’t they just live their own lives and let the rest of us live ours?
March 16th, 2008 at 2:47 pmKerns may speak for conservatives in okla but she doesn’t speak for everyone. There are some good democrats doing all they can against the wind:
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/23307
March 16th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Jesus said to love your neighbor not demonise them. Religion is about unity not uniformity.
If you cant follow the words of Christ then get out of Christianity Ms Kern.
March 16th, 2008 at 2:55 pmBush is the greatest threat to this nation. Bush=terror. Neo-nazi dyke Sally Kern just loves to put up a front. This is how she bails herself out of her own misery.
March 16th, 2008 at 2:58 pmAgain, gay, hetro what does it matter ? We have a country that is a car without brakes going down a mountain with noone at the wheel. And some idiot is whining about sexual preferences. She needs to go !
March 16th, 2008 at 3:02 pmIf Sally Kern thinks gays are a bigger threat than terrorism then why hasn’t she advocated killing them? What does she propose to be done about the terrible, violent gays ripping apart America. I don’t, nor would I ever advocate violence against women, but she needs to be slapped over and over again. The only “death knell” facing this country today are the republican lemmings following shitstains like her.
March 16th, 2008 at 3:15 pmhello world
March 16th, 2008 at 3:38 pmnice post
March 16th, 2008 at 3:38 pmIf the “global war on terror” warranted an invasion, an occupation, millions of displaced, and thousands of dead, maimed for life, I have to wonder what these loonies will do to wage a global “war on gayness” -if gays are a bigger threat to the US than terrorism.
Who would these wackos bomb, invade? Who do they propose should be the target for an American military action?
And if it doesn’t merit any of the above, what in the world are American troops still doing in Iraq?
Not that any of these questions would ever occur to these fear-mongering Neanderthals…
March 16th, 2008 at 3:45 pmThe continued descent of our nation into right wing, conservative religious mysticism demands this result. 9/11 was the direct retribution of God for our failure to live up to HIS divine word. Katrina – retribution. Iraq war woes – retribution.
Once you undermine scientific reasoning, fact based decision making and a rational division between religion and the secular world, then you will have the United States. A placid, compliant and easily led rabble that will accept their own descent into poverty as merely the result of their own failure to live up to God’s will. They will accept those who have robbed them of their own wealth and well being are really the favored and chosen few to lead them since we all know that it is material wealth that serves as a marker of the Lord’s approval.
March 16th, 2008 at 3:52 pmThe collective ignorance of Oklahoma conservatives is overwhelming.
March 16th, 2008 at 5:05 pmLeave it to Oklahoma… sorry for those of you from that state, but you have work to do.
March 16th, 2008 at 5:08 pm**********Had Hussein Enough**********
If this weren’t so vile, I would laugh at her pathetic little diatribe and “logic.”
Paraphrasing
“I’m not gay-bashing…
…they’re teaching our kids at an early age that homosexuality is an acceptable lifestyle…
…we need schools to disclose to parents all clubs their kids are in, because they’re forming Gay-Straight alliances…”
So you’re not gay-bashing? Are you somewhere? (lol… “No, I am not here, nor have I ever been here.”)
She was a teacher? God help her.
March 16th, 2008 at 5:46 pmYeah, she taught home school…to herself. The voices in her head needed someone to point out the finer things in life, like hate, how to support failed policies and how to be an intolerant form of life. Then the voices merged with the multiple personalities and ta-da!!!
March 16th, 2008 at 5:59 pmEvidently Sally Simpleton is being raptured as we speak.
March 16th, 2008 at 6:01 pmXisithrus Says:
March 16th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Jesus said to love your neighbor not demonise them. Religion is about unity not uniformity.
If you cant follow the words of Christ then get out of Christianity Ms Kern
Interesting that in trying to condemn someone who comments on homosexuality you allude to the words of Christ where he quotes the book of Leviticus. In essence you are quoting from the book of Leviticus.
Jesus said that the second greatest command was to love your neighbor as yourself. This is really a remark about personal responsibility, not about accepting any and every behavior in which your neighbor chooses to engage. Further, Christ said the greatest command was to love God – to love God with all your heart and all your soul and with all you mind. This scripture comes from Matthew 22.
Matthew 22
And as you can see Christ makes the second greatest command – the one to which you allude – dependent on the first greatest command.
This means you can’t do the second command one without doing the first command.
Did you mean to include the first greatest command when you alluded to the second?
Christ’s words on the second greatest commandment in Matthew are a quote of Leviticus 19:18. You might recall that Leviticus 18 is the chapter where homosexuality is prohibited, and Leviticus 20 is the chapter where the punishment for homosexuality is prescribed. Christ is quoting from the chapter between chapters 18 and 20.
Christ even gives his own commentary on what the greatest and second greatest commands mean in verse 40 above.
Further, in Matthew 19, Christ also makes it clear that the intent of Creator was that sexual expression would be between a man and a woman in a marriage.
BTW, Christ says that belief in Him will be divisive.
You may, of course, believe what you want, but bitblt doesn’t belief there is any way to make the words of Christ in the New Testament mean the acceptance of anything less that ideal behavior.
All quotes from http://www.bible.com NIV.
March 16th, 2008 at 6:03 pmJust wait till these raptured, rabit christofascists enter the pearly gates and find their savior running around in ballet slippers and rings on every finger and toe. Wouldn’t it be great turnabout for them to finally realize that it’s the straights who have been the aberrants after all?
March 16th, 2008 at 6:03 pmrabid…guess I was imagining a lisping archangel to make the scene complete?
March 16th, 2008 at 6:03 pm#40 So are you referring to his sexual escapades with Mary Magdalene too when you speak about a relationship between a married man and woman?
March 16th, 2008 at 6:05 pmAnd homosexuality is ostensibly prohibited while Abraham incestuously impregnates his own daughters to populate the race?? Just wondering…sounds like a bit of cherry picking to me. If you want to quote biblical verses, then let’s exploit them all, shall we?
March 16th, 2008 at 6:06 pmThis new format is confusing Xitrhus – I was directing my comments to bitblt I see now. Sorry.
March 16th, 2008 at 6:07 pmWhat on earth would conservatives do if the issues they love so much were remedied in their minds?
March 16th, 2008 at 6:22 pmOh boy, time to trot out the Bible, probably one of the single most destructive books of all time.
March 16th, 2008 at 6:23 pmGee, I hope Rep Kern never ends up in a terrible accident where she needs blood or a nurse, because surely there aren’t responsible gay people that donate blood or are in the medical profession. I hope she never needs help with travel plans or assistance from a flight attendant, because surely there are no gay people in the travel industry –
March 16th, 2008 at 6:51 pm*stolen from some comedian, not my own*
Anyone else having trouble determining what is repeated as a previous quote and what is the comment?
March 16th, 2008 at 6:58 pmI’m amazed at how they were able to keep up with Jesus’ quotations back then. They must have had a version of shorthand that the Vatican doesn’t want us to have!!! I mean, did they have a monopoly on the parchment market or did they just have people who were super-great with stone and chisel?
March 16th, 2008 at 6:59 pmIt IS amazing isn’t it sectionop92?
March 16th, 2008 at 7:04 pmWhen one considers that his “quotes” were all written a minimum of 60 years after he died and re-written, revised and reinterpreted, translated and retold over the centuries, by the select few who were literate.
ForTruth Says:
March 16th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
Oh boy, time to trot out the Bible, probably one of the single most destructive books of all time.
I believe by now Christianity has eclipsed all others in becoming the bloodiest religion in human history.
March 16th, 2008 at 7:19 pmWhat does one expect for an organized manipulation of the masses which has as it’s most prominent icon a symbol of execution and torture?
In Sally’s defense: she has been, wrongly, taught that if she doesn’t hate anyone different from herself, Jesus will kill her.
March 16th, 2008 at 7:28 pmReligion is much better suited as a guideline to how to help live your life and help others. And it is always your choice to go there and not have it brow-beaten into your life.
When you have nutjobs who pervert, tell you and cherry-pick what biblical quotes to live by, put a price-tag on what will help cleanse and get you into heaven and try to give you financial advice then it has crossed the line. And I’m just talking about Christian TV evangelicals. How in the hell “the Apostle” Rev. Popoff, Don Stewart, Crefflo Dollar, Kenneth Copeland & co. and the rest aren’t in prison (yeah, freedom of religion…but that has limits) for their scams, but we put Dick and Jane Druguser away for using for using pot to kill the pain, that’s a sin!
March 16th, 2008 at 7:30 pmThecairngman Says:
March 16th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Sounds Like Them damn Muslims!!!
See? Extremist christians sound as extremist muslims. Time to flag the Republican Party as a terrorist organization.
March 16th, 2008 at 7:48 pmThese people who deem gays a bigger threat than terrorists are truly terrorists themselves– they invite violence towards gays by their repugnant comments. I agree– these Repubs who agree or support her are home-grown terrorists, and they need to hear that over & over. What else can you call someone who encourages even more hatred & violence to gays than they do to terrorists? A sorry, unchristian, hateful lot. God is watching them & taking notes.
March 16th, 2008 at 7:57 pmWe can’t have our children around the gays, because they’ll be sodomized…don’t ya know that?! That’s Hate Memo 1c. that gets passed around the districts and “loyal” networks/studios when Bush needs a distraction. Even the lesbians will sodomize them…ask the RNC. Plus those “GAY!!!” views…we can’t expose children to that. They might *GASP* see gay people as just REGULAR people without a stereotype attached to them. If that happens, then children might see each other as the same and then race wouldn’t be an issue. You think Rush, Billo and Glenn can make a living if there is no hate to focus on inside our own borders?!?!
March 16th, 2008 at 8:12 pmHow many ways can these guys break the Commandments before other Christians start taking some action? I don’t get it. Those who don’t push their faith into politics gets the most heat. But those who proclaim to represent Gods name in politics gets away with it? Just how many ways can the Republican Right break the Commandments? http://angryafrican.net/2008/03/09/breaking-the-commandments-republican-style/
March 16th, 2008 at 9:49 pmIf the jesus people had the same live and let live attitude every gay person I know has, this would be a much kinder and gentler place to live.
March 16th, 2008 at 11:00 pmPeople like the Christian Coalition have to hide their hedonistic desires under Christ because if they were seen as anything besides bible-thumping, boring prudes, they wouldn’t rake in the cash from the dumb layabouts at home who fear the god in heaven, which is supposed to be in the sky. But if you think about it, why would a deity which created the whole universe give a care about one planet in the cosmos? And couldn’t “heaven” be a higher spiritual plane that we might be giving a good name, but know jack about? Pat and Gordo Robertson don’t want ya thinking that way and they’ll send the Jesus Commission to make ya think otherwise!
March 16th, 2008 at 11:40 pmYes, stand with the bigots! Stand up and be proud. Be proud of who you are. Be counted. You wouldn’t want your children to grow up learning to understand and appreciate other cultures. Why, I hear interracial couples can now be seen on the TV. And, the gays, holy guacamole, they have a show where they help heterosexual men learn to be stylish.
Bigotry is not a family value.
March 16th, 2008 at 11:41 pmMarie Says:
March 16th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
It IS amazing isn’t it sectionop92?
When one considers that his “quotes” were all written a minimum of 60 years after he died and re-written, revised and reinterpreted, translated and retold over the centuries, by the select few who were literate.
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We also shouldn’t forget that there ARE other works which recount the stories of Jesus’ works and ministries that DIDN’T make “the cut” but gave comfort to thousands of early Christians in the widespread communities.
March 17th, 2008 at 2:01 amNo wonder why the GOP can’t catch Osama Bin Laden…After all, TEH GAYS are more of a threat than terrorists.
March 17th, 2008 at 2:10 amThis is so typical of right-wingers and their hate-filled agenda, as it were. They can only spew hate and fear. Their minds are hermetically sealed to any fact or datum. What’s really scary is that there are a lot of folks who believe this kind of homophobic hate. You know, KKK’ers, Birch’ers, republicans, bushies.
March 17th, 2008 at 6:49 ambitblt Says:
March 16th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
Christ’s words on the second greatest commandment in Matthew are a quote of Leviticus 19:18. You might recall that Leviticus 18 is the chapter where homosexuality is prohibited, and Leviticus 20 is the chapter where the punishment for homosexuality is prescribed. Christ is quoting from the chapter between chapters 18 and 20.
Leviticus is also the chapter that forbids eating of shellfish. Does that ban still apply? What about the bits explaining how big a stick I can use to beat my wife?
March 17th, 2008 at 7:04 amThe worst part about this hateful rhetoric to me is the fact that these folks consider themselves to be uber “patriots” in this country when it fact they are attacking the very principles upon which this republic stands.
We cannot remain silent when these folks spew this ignorance. They have the right to free speech, but so do we. And, we have the right to let them know that their ideas are in fact un-American because they are unconstitutional.
Please take action and make your voice heard.
March 17th, 2008 at 8:30 amI must be incredibly difficult working homicide in Oklahoma because:
March 17th, 2008 at 8:48 ama) the DNA is all identical
b) There are no dental records
s:
Nevar Says:
March 16th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
ForTruth Says:
March 16th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
Oh boy, time to trot out the Bible, probably one of the single most destructive books of all time.
I believe by now Christianity has eclipsed all others in becoming the bloodiest religion in human history.
What does one expect for an organized manipulation of the masses which has as it’s most prominent icon a symbol of execution and torture?
It is true that belief is destructive, and behavior is based on belief.
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bitblit thinks if you check you’ll find that the ideological league leaders – deaths resulting from belief – of all time are the communists of the twentieth century. The communists are, of course, officially atheists.
While much wrong has been done in the name of Christianity – people use belief to manipulate other people – you might want to consider that with Christianity “it’s as good as it can get.” While this assertion is impossible to prove or disprove, don’t assume that the void created by the lack of influence from Christianity, would just naturally be filled with some alternative positive influence, but feel free to name that alternative positive influence if you like.
Said differently, what do you think the last two thousand years would have been like without the influence of Christianity?
March 17th, 2008 at 10:00 amBTW, that “…prominent icon …of execution and torture…” means redemption to Christians, and it’s redemption available to everyone.
What would make anyone think that the hateful bigots wouldn’t stick together? Hating in the name of Jesus is what unites them. Their hate is the only thing keeping their fragile egos in tact. Most people are sick of hateful rhetoric and bloated hypocrisy. Gay bashing for votes is so 2004. Didn’t they get the memo that brown is the new gay?
March 17th, 2008 at 8:34 pmKinda makes one wish abortion was retroactive, doesn’t it?
March 18th, 2008 at 2:34 am