Comments on: Oklahoma conservatives ’stand with’ Kern. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:57:12 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: ClassWarrior http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/comment-page-2/#comment-4329390 ClassWarrior Tue, 18 Mar 2008 06:34:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/#comment-4329390 Kinda makes one wish abortion was retroactive, doesn't it? Kinda makes one wish abortion was retroactive, doesn’t it?

]]> By: andy phx http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/comment-page-2/#comment-4327526 andy phx Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:34:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/#comment-4327526 What would make anyone think that the hateful bigots wouldn't stick together? Hating in the name of Jesus is what unites them. Their hate is the only thing keeping their fragile egos in tact. Most people are sick of hateful rhetoric and bloated hypocrisy. Gay bashing for votes is so 2004. Didn't they get the memo that brown is the new gay? What would make anyone think that the hateful bigots wouldn’t stick together? Hating in the name of Jesus is what unites them. Their hate is the only thing keeping their fragile egos in tact. Most people are sick of hateful rhetoric and bloated hypocrisy. Gay bashing for votes is so 2004. Didn’t they get the memo that brown is the new gay?

]]> By: bitblt http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/comment-page-2/#comment-4323172 bitblt Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:00:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/#comment-4323172 <em>s: Nevar Says: March 16th, 2008 at 7:19 pm ForTruth Says: March 16th, 2008 at 6:23 pm Oh boy, time to trot out the Bible, probably one of the single most destructive books of all time. I believe by now Christianity has eclipsed all others in becoming the bloodiest religion in human history. What does one expect for an organized manipulation of the masses which has as it’s most prominent icon a symbol of execution and torture? </em> It is true that belief is destructive, and behavior is based on belief. . bitblit thinks if you check you’ll find that the ideological league leaders – deaths resulting from belief – of all time are the communists of the twentieth century. The communists are, of course, officially atheists. While much wrong has been done in the name of Christianity – people use belief to manipulate other people - you might want to consider that with Christianity “it’s as good as it can get.” While this assertion is impossible to prove or disprove, don’t assume that the void created by the lack of influence from Christianity, would just naturally be filled with some alternative positive influence, but feel free to name that alternative positive influence if you like. Said differently, what do you think the last two thousand years would have been like without the influence of Christianity? BTW, that “…prominent icon …of execution and torture…” means redemption to Christians, and it’s redemption available to everyone. s:
Nevar Says:
March 16th, 2008 at 7:19 pm

ForTruth Says:
March 16th, 2008 at 6:23 pm

Oh boy, time to trot out the Bible, probably one of the single most destructive books of all time.

I believe by now Christianity has eclipsed all others in becoming the bloodiest religion in human history.
What does one expect for an organized manipulation of the masses which has as it’s most prominent icon a symbol of execution and torture?

It is true that belief is destructive, and behavior is based on belief.
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bitblit thinks if you check you’ll find that the ideological league leaders – deaths resulting from belief – of all time are the communists of the twentieth century. The communists are, of course, officially atheists.

While much wrong has been done in the name of Christianity – people use belief to manipulate other people – you might want to consider that with Christianity “it’s as good as it can get.” While this assertion is impossible to prove or disprove, don’t assume that the void created by the lack of influence from Christianity, would just naturally be filled with some alternative positive influence, but feel free to name that alternative positive influence if you like.

Said differently, what do you think the last two thousand years would have been like without the influence of Christianity?
BTW, that “…prominent icon …of execution and torture…” means redemption to Christians, and it’s redemption available to everyone.

]]> By: RFIDemocracy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/comment-page-2/#comment-4322752 RFIDemocracy Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:48:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/#comment-4322752 I must be incredibly difficult working homicide in Oklahoma because: a) the DNA is all identical b) There are no dental records I must be incredibly difficult working homicide in Oklahoma because:
a) the DNA is all identical
b) There are no dental records

]]> By: kbartoy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/comment-page-2/#comment-4322676 kbartoy Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:30:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/#comment-4322676 The worst part about this hateful rhetoric to me is the fact that these folks consider themselves to be uber "patriots" in this country when it fact they are attacking the very principles upon which this republic stands. We cannot remain silent when these folks spew this ignorance. They have the right to free speech, but so do we. And, we have the right to let them know that their ideas are in fact un-American because they are unconstitutional. <a href="http://bartoy.blogspot.com/2008/03/homosexuality-biggest-threat-our-nation.html" rel="nofollow">Please take action and make your voice heard</a>. The worst part about this hateful rhetoric to me is the fact that these folks consider themselves to be uber “patriots” in this country when it fact they are attacking the very principles upon which this republic stands.

We cannot remain silent when these folks spew this ignorance. They have the right to free speech, but so do we. And, we have the right to let them know that their ideas are in fact un-American because they are unconstitutional.

Please take action and make your voice heard.

]]> By: hussein toasterhead http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/comment-page-2/#comment-4322240 hussein toasterhead Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:04:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/#comment-4322240 <i>bitblt Says: March 16th, 2008 at 6:03 pm Christ’s words on the second greatest commandment in Matthew are a quote of Leviticus 19:18. You might recall that Leviticus 18 is the chapter where homosexuality is prohibited, and Leviticus 20 is the chapter where the punishment for homosexuality is prescribed. Christ is quoting from the chapter between chapters 18 and 20.</i> Leviticus is also the chapter that forbids eating of shellfish. Does that ban still apply? What about the bits explaining how big a stick I can use to beat my wife? bitblt Says:
March 16th, 2008 at 6:03 pm

Christ’s words on the second greatest commandment in Matthew are a quote of Leviticus 19:18. You might recall that Leviticus 18 is the chapter where homosexuality is prohibited, and Leviticus 20 is the chapter where the punishment for homosexuality is prescribed. Christ is quoting from the chapter between chapters 18 and 20.

Leviticus is also the chapter that forbids eating of shellfish. Does that ban still apply? What about the bits explaining how big a stick I can use to beat my wife?

]]> By: bratboy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/comment-page-2/#comment-4322142 bratboy Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:49:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/#comment-4322142 This is so typical of right-wingers and their hate-filled agenda, as it were. They can only spew hate and fear. Their minds are hermetically sealed to any fact or datum. What's really scary is that there are a lot of folks who believe this kind of homophobic hate. You know, KKK'ers, Birch'ers, republicans, bushies. This is so typical of right-wingers and their hate-filled agenda, as it were. They can only spew hate and fear. Their minds are hermetically sealed to any fact or datum. What’s really scary is that there are a lot of folks who believe this kind of homophobic hate. You know, KKK’ers, Birch’ers, republicans, bushies.

]]> By: ucsbclassics53 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/comment-page-2/#comment-4320720 ucsbclassics53 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 06:10:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/#comment-4320720 No wonder why the GOP can't catch Osama Bin Laden...After all, TEH GAYS are more of a threat than terrorists. No wonder why the GOP can’t catch Osama Bin Laden…After all, TEH GAYS are more of a threat than terrorists.

]]> By: JosephW http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/comment-page-2/#comment-4320660 JosephW Mon, 17 Mar 2008 06:01:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/#comment-4320660 Marie Says: March 16th, 2008 at 7:04 pm It IS amazing isn’t it sectionop92? When one considers that his “quotes” were all written a minimum of 60 years after he died and re-written, revised and reinterpreted, translated and retold over the centuries, by the select few who were literate. ----------- We also shouldn't forget that there ARE other works which recount the stories of Jesus' works and ministries that DIDN'T make "the cut" but gave comfort to thousands of early Christians in the widespread communities. Marie Says:
March 16th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
It IS amazing isn’t it sectionop92?
When one considers that his “quotes” were all written a minimum of 60 years after he died and re-written, revised and reinterpreted, translated and retold over the centuries, by the select few who were literate.
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We also shouldn’t forget that there ARE other works which recount the stories of Jesus’ works and ministries that DIDN’T make “the cut” but gave comfort to thousands of early Christians in the widespread communities.

]]> By: fletc3her http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/comment-page-2/#comment-4319660 fletc3her Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:41:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/#comment-4319660 Yes, stand with the bigots! Stand up and be proud. Be proud of who you are. Be counted. You wouldn't want your children to grow up learning to understand and appreciate other cultures. Why, I hear interracial couples can now be seen on the TV. And, the gays, holy guacamole, they have a show where they help heterosexual men learn to be stylish. Bigotry is not a family value. Yes, stand with the bigots! Stand up and be proud. Be proud of who you are. Be counted. You wouldn’t want your children to grow up learning to understand and appreciate other cultures. Why, I hear interracial couples can now be seen on the TV. And, the gays, holy guacamole, they have a show where they help heterosexual men learn to be stylish.

Bigotry is not a family value.

]]> By: sectionop92 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/comment-page-2/#comment-4319658 sectionop92 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:40:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/#comment-4319658 People like the Christian Coalition have to hide their hedonistic desires under Christ because if they were seen as anything besides bible-thumping, boring prudes, they wouldn't rake in the cash from the dumb layabouts at home who fear the god in heaven, which is supposed to be in the sky. But if you think about it, why would a deity which created the whole universe give a care about one planet in the cosmos? And couldn't "heaven" be a higher spiritual plane that we might be giving a good name, but know jack about? Pat and Gordo Robertson don't want ya thinking that way and they'll send the Jesus Commission to make ya think otherwise! People like the Christian Coalition have to hide their hedonistic desires under Christ because if they were seen as anything besides bible-thumping, boring prudes, they wouldn’t rake in the cash from the dumb layabouts at home who fear the god in heaven, which is supposed to be in the sky. But if you think about it, why would a deity which created the whole universe give a care about one planet in the cosmos? And couldn’t “heaven” be a higher spiritual plane that we might be giving a good name, but know jack about? Pat and Gordo Robertson don’t want ya thinking that way and they’ll send the Jesus Commission to make ya think otherwise!

]]> By: Exit Stage Left http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/comment-page-2/#comment-4319400 Exit Stage Left Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:00:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/#comment-4319400 If the jesus people had the same live and let live attitude every gay person I know has, this would be a much kinder and gentler place to live. If the jesus people had the same live and let live attitude every gay person I know has, this would be a much kinder and gentler place to live.

]]> By: AngryAfrican http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/comment-page-2/#comment-4318962 AngryAfrican Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:49:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/#comment-4318962 How many ways can these guys break the Commandments before other Christians start taking some action? I don't get it. Those who don't push their faith into politics gets the most heat. But those who proclaim to represent Gods name in politics gets away with it? Just how many ways can the Republican Right break the Commandments? http://angryafrican.net/2008/03/09/breaking-the-commandments-republican-style/ How many ways can these guys break the Commandments before other Christians start taking some action? I don’t get it. Those who don’t push their faith into politics gets the most heat. But those who proclaim to represent Gods name in politics gets away with it? Just how many ways can the Republican Right break the Commandments? http://angryafrican.net/2008/03/09/breaking-the-commandments-republican-style/

]]> By: sectionop92 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/comment-page-2/#comment-4318232 sectionop92 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:12:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/#comment-4318232 We can't have our children around the gays, because they'll be sodomized...don't ya know that?! That's Hate Memo 1c. that gets passed around the districts and "loyal" networks/studios when Bush needs a distraction. Even the lesbians will sodomize them...ask the RNC. Plus those "GAY!!!" views...we can't expose children to that. They might *GASP* see gay people as just REGULAR people without a stereotype attached to them. If that happens, then children might see each other as the same and then race wouldn't be an issue. You think Rush, Billo and Glenn can make a living if there is no hate to focus on inside our own borders?!?! We can’t have our children around the gays, because they’ll be sodomized…don’t ya know that?! That’s Hate Memo 1c. that gets passed around the districts and “loyal” networks/studios when Bush needs a distraction. Even the lesbians will sodomize them…ask the RNC. Plus those “GAY!!!” views…we can’t expose children to that. They might *GASP* see gay people as just REGULAR people without a stereotype attached to them. If that happens, then children might see each other as the same and then race wouldn’t be an issue. You think Rush, Billo and Glenn can make a living if there is no hate to focus on inside our own borders?!?!

]]> By: dasm http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/comment-page-2/#comment-4318134 dasm Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:57:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/#comment-4318134 These people who deem gays a bigger threat than terrorists are truly terrorists themselves-- they invite violence towards gays by their repugnant comments. I agree-- these Repubs who agree or support her are home-grown terrorists, and they need to hear that over & over. What else can you call someone who encourages even more hatred & violence to gays than they do to terrorists? A sorry, unchristian, hateful lot. God is watching them & taking notes. These people who deem gays a bigger threat than terrorists are truly terrorists themselves– they invite violence towards gays by their repugnant comments. I agree– these Repubs who agree or support her are home-grown terrorists, and they need to hear that over & over. What else can you call someone who encourages even more hatred & violence to gays than they do to terrorists? A sorry, unchristian, hateful lot. God is watching them & taking notes.

]]> By: Evil Spaniard http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/comment-page-2/#comment-4318072 Evil Spaniard Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:48:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/#comment-4318072 <em>Thecairngman Says: March 16th, 2008 at 2:13 pm Sounds Like Them damn Muslims!!!</em> See? Extremist christians sound as extremist muslims. Time to flag the Republican Party as a terrorist organization. Thecairngman Says:
March 16th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Sounds Like Them damn Muslims!!!

See? Extremist christians sound as extremist muslims. Time to flag the Republican Party as a terrorist organization.

]]> By: sectionop92 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/comment-page-2/#comment-4317978 sectionop92 Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:30:39 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/#comment-4317978 Religion is much better suited as a guideline to how to help live your life and help others. And it is always your choice to go there and not have it brow-beaten into your life. When you have nutjobs who pervert, tell you and cherry-pick what biblical quotes to live by, put a price-tag on what will help cleanse and get you into heaven and try to give you financial advice then it has crossed the line. And I'm just talking about Christian TV evangelicals. How in the hell "the Apostle" Rev. Popoff, Don Stewart, Crefflo Dollar, Kenneth Copeland & co. and the rest aren't in prison (yeah, freedom of religion...but that has limits) for their scams, but we put Dick and Jane Druguser away for using for using pot to kill the pain, that's a sin! Religion is much better suited as a guideline to how to help live your life and help others. And it is always your choice to go there and not have it brow-beaten into your life.

When you have nutjobs who pervert, tell you and cherry-pick what biblical quotes to live by, put a price-tag on what will help cleanse and get you into heaven and try to give you financial advice then it has crossed the line. And I’m just talking about Christian TV evangelicals. How in the hell “the Apostle” Rev. Popoff, Don Stewart, Crefflo Dollar, Kenneth Copeland & co. and the rest aren’t in prison (yeah, freedom of religion…but that has limits) for their scams, but we put Dick and Jane Druguser away for using for using pot to kill the pain, that’s a sin!

]]> By: pete http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/comment-page-2/#comment-4317952 pete Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:28:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/#comment-4317952 In Sally's defense: she has been, wrongly, taught that if she doesn't hate anyone different from herself, Jesus will kill her. In Sally’s defense: she has been, wrongly, taught that if she doesn’t hate anyone different from herself, Jesus will kill her.

]]> By: Nevar http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/comment-page-2/#comment-4317886 Nevar Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:19:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/#comment-4317886 ForTruth Says: March 16th, 2008 at 6:23 pm Oh boy, time to trot out the Bible, probably one of the single most destructive books of all time. <em>I believe by now Christianity has eclipsed all others in becoming the bloodiest religion in human history. What does one expect for an organized manipulation of the masses which has as it's most prominent icon a symbol of execution and torture?</em> ForTruth Says:
March 16th, 2008 at 6:23 pm

Oh boy, time to trot out the Bible, probably one of the single most destructive books of all time.

I believe by now Christianity has eclipsed all others in becoming the bloodiest religion in human history.
What does one expect for an organized manipulation of the masses which has as it’s most prominent icon a symbol of execution and torture?

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/comment-page-2/#comment-4317812 Marie Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:04:44 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/16/oklahoma-conservatives-stand-with-kern/#comment-4317812 It IS amazing isn't it sectionop92? When one considers that his "quotes" were all written a minimum of 60 years after he died and re-written, revised and reinterpreted, translated and retold over the centuries, by the select few who were literate. It IS amazing isn’t it sectionop92?
When one considers that his “quotes” were all written a minimum of 60 years after he died and re-written, revised and reinterpreted, translated and retold over the centuries, by the select few who were literate.

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