Comments on: Bachmann: God is backing the United States in Iraq. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:01:11 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: upright left http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-4343964 upright left Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:08:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/#comment-4343964 Fred Says: March 17th, 2008 at 4:33 pm "You use religion as a weapon……I for one disagree with you and there is a movement among chistains to distance themselves from the likes of you. Red Letter Christains." "When we present Jesus as a pro-war, pro-capital punishment, anti-poor, anti-homosexual, anti-environment, pro-nuclear weapons authority figure draped in an American flag, I think we are making a travesty of the portrait of Jesus we find in the gospels." We do the same to Jesus when we try use Him to advocate a liberal political position, yet turn away from His examples and words regarding sin and personal responsibility. Both sides pick and choose parts of His message to bolster their arguments and still expect people to believe their claims to be Christians. upright hussein left Fred Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 4:33 pm

“You use religion as a weapon……I for one disagree with you and there is a movement among chistains to distance themselves from the likes of you. Red Letter Christains.”

“When we present Jesus as a pro-war, pro-capital punishment, anti-poor, anti-homosexual, anti-environment, pro-nuclear weapons authority figure draped in an American flag, I think we are making a travesty of the portrait of Jesus we find in the gospels.”

We do the same to Jesus when we try use Him to advocate a liberal political position, yet turn away from His examples and words regarding sin and personal responsibility. Both sides pick and choose parts of His message to bolster their arguments and still expect people to believe their claims to be Christians.

upright hussein left

]]> By: jasperjava http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-4336364 jasperjava Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:24:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/#comment-4336364 Didn't the Nazi Wehrmacht wear dog tags that said, "God is with us" (<em>Gott mit uns</em>)? Didn’t the Nazi Wehrmacht wear dog tags that said, “God is with us” (Gott mit uns)?

]]> By: Squeaky Wheels http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-4336342 Squeaky Wheels Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:23:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/#comment-4336342 #71 Themanoncecared Says: "That’s the problem with the country. And who’s caught in the middle? Nobody! There are only sides!! No middle ground!!" Well, if you want middle ground, you can check out mu humble offerings here: http://www.squeakywheelsblog.com #71 Themanoncecared Says:
“That’s the problem with the country. And who’s caught in the middle? Nobody! There are only sides!! No middle ground!!”

Well, if you want middle ground, you can check out mu humble offerings here:
http://www.squeakywheelsblog.com

]]> By: Bluestocking http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-4329254 Bluestocking Tue, 18 Mar 2008 06:05:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/#comment-4329254 Since when does Bachmann have a "Red Phone" to God? She's no a theologian, she's a politician -- the world's second oldest profession and almost as far away from heaven as someone can possibly get even <em>without</em> breaking the law, in my opinion. To a rational person with at least two functioning brain cells to rub together, the phrase "God is on our side" is about on a par with "the Devil made me do it' -- nothing more than a convenient blanket self-rationalization, and a rather flimsy one at that. In much the same way that most people who say "the Devil made me do it" are trying to avoid accepting responsibility for their own behavior, saying "God is on our side" is a feeble attempt to avoid any potentially negative consequences of our actions -- because nothing that we do (such as say, torture?) could <em>ever</em> possibly be bad or evil or wrong because God wouldn't be on our side if it wasn't...right? God is on our side because everything we do is okay, and everything we do is okay because God is on our side. Talk about circular -- not to mention remarkably convenient -- reasoning (more like magical or wishful thinking if you ask me)... Since when does Bachmann have a “Red Phone” to God? She’s no a theologian, she’s a politician — the world’s second oldest profession and almost as far away from heaven as someone can possibly get even without breaking the law, in my opinion.

To a rational person with at least two functioning brain cells to rub together, the phrase “God is on our side” is about on a par with “the Devil made me do it’ — nothing more than a convenient blanket self-rationalization, and a rather flimsy one at that. In much the same way that most people who say “the Devil made me do it” are trying to avoid accepting responsibility for their own behavior, saying “God is on our side” is a feeble attempt to avoid any potentially negative consequences of our actions — because nothing that we do (such as say, torture?) could ever possibly be bad or evil or wrong because God wouldn’t be on our side if it wasn’t…right?

God is on our side because everything we do is okay, and everything we do is okay because God is on our side. Talk about circular — not to mention remarkably convenient — reasoning (more like magical or wishful thinking if you ask me)…

]]> By: jb http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-4328870 jb Tue, 18 Mar 2008 04:44:35 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/#comment-4328870 If there was a god and he was backing the USA, he would have struck down Cheney and a host of other traitors from the GOP. If there was a god and he was backing the USA, he would have struck down Cheney and a host of other traitors from the GOP.

]]> By: christopher wiwi http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-4328724 christopher wiwi Tue, 18 Mar 2008 04:17:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/#comment-4328724 I have to believe that every neocon that shouts out that GOD is on our side is only going to devalue Christianity and it`s core beliefs.The neocon values of hatred,bigotry and ignorance once again rear their ugly head. I have to believe that every neocon that shouts out that GOD is on our side is only going to devalue Christianity and it`s core beliefs.The neocon values of hatred,bigotry and ignorance
once again rear their ugly head.

]]> By: williamf http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-4328174 williamf Tue, 18 Mar 2008 02:35:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/#comment-4328174 OK so which god is this? OK so which god is this?

]]> By: flavorino http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-4327846 flavorino Tue, 18 Mar 2008 01:33:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/#comment-4327846 Put a helmet on this idiot, give her a rifle and send her over to Iraq and send her out on patrol......no need to worry about her, God is on <strong>her</strong> side. Put a helmet on this idiot, give her a rifle and send her over to Iraq and send her out on patrol……no need to worry about her, God is on her side.

]]> By: galmud http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-4327540 galmud Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:36:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/#comment-4327540 <em>"What our service men and women have accomplished over there has been nothing short of astounding. Though you never hear about it in the media"</em> And you never hear media report about the Winter Soldiers event where courageous veterans describe their astounding accomplishments in Iraq and Afghanistan <em>"God has not abandoned us."</em> Dylan comments.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbw2GD0t3T4 “What our service men and women have accomplished over there has been nothing short of astounding. Though you never hear about it in the media”

And you never hear media report about the Winter Soldiers event where courageous veterans describe their astounding accomplishments in Iraq and Afghanistan

“God has not abandoned us.”

Dylan comments..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbw2GD0t3T4

]]> By: Cal Malenky http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-4327498 Cal Malenky Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:29:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/#comment-4327498 Sorry, Michelle, the voodoo, hoakum and hoax is the goofy God talk. Sorry, Michelle, the voodoo, hoakum and hoax is the goofy God talk.

]]> By: Left Coast Mike http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-4327182 Left Coast Mike Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:35:32 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/#comment-4327182 <strong>Come on</strong>...someone take one for the team and shove a Big Di(k in her mouth. Come on…someone take one for the team and shove a Big Di(k in her mouth.

]]> By: Evil Spaniard http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-4327120 Evil Spaniard Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:23:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/#comment-4327120 Caption contest: "Must... breath... necklage... too... tight..." Caption contest: “Must… breath… necklage… too… tight…”

]]> By: singe_101 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-4326888 singe_101 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:41:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/#comment-4326888 While Minnesota certainly has some GOP influence for various reasons (the poor are the "other" and segmented off, deserving little money and attention in some areas, for one) it is a liberal state and there has been a lot of progress, with dozens of shifts and holds in 2006. Unfortunately, it has attracted some nasty drones parroting not their own more logical brand of Republican politics, but intense Bush rhetoric. Coleman, Pawlenty, Bachmann... all "in" and an affront to the state, with little to say for themselves other than folksy garbage. While Minnesota certainly has some GOP influence for various reasons (the poor are the “other” and segmented off, deserving little money and attention in some areas, for one) it is a liberal state and there has been a lot of progress, with dozens of shifts and holds in 2006.

Unfortunately, it has attracted some nasty drones parroting not their own more logical brand of Republican politics, but intense Bush rhetoric. Coleman, Pawlenty, Bachmann… all “in” and an affront to the state, with little to say for themselves other than folksy garbage.

]]> By: pete http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-4326818 pete Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:31:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/#comment-4326818 Actually, the "progressive" movement has one, overriding, goal. A return to accountability in our government. Since Ms. Bachmann is only answerable to the voices in her head, she doesn't fit in with our plan. Actually, the “progressive” movement has one, overriding, goal. A return to accountability in our government. Since Ms. Bachmann is only answerable to the voices in her head, she doesn’t fit in with our plan.

]]> By: Fred http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-4326756 Fred Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:25:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/#comment-4326756 <blockquote>Themanoncecared Says: March 17th, 2008 at 6:00 pm I will have to admit I do agree with some ideas that progressives throw out there but when they don’t agree with something. Its Mt. St Helen proportion hate and resentment they spew!</blockquote> People domestic and international do not die in large numbers because of a progressive agenda in America. You cannot say that about the republican agenda....sorry...stick to facts.....you are the party of death....not progressives.

Themanoncecared Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
I will have to admit I do agree with some ideas that progressives throw out there but when they don’t agree with something. Its Mt. St Helen proportion hate and resentment they spew!

People domestic and international do not die in large numbers because of a progressive agenda in America. You cannot say that about the republican agenda….sorry…stick to facts…..you are the party of death….not progressives.

]]> By: hussein toasterhead http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-4326576 hussein toasterhead Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:08:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/#comment-4326576 <i>bitblt Says: March 17th, 2008 at 5:50 pm “Therefore the Islam worshp the same God.” Believe this statement remains to be proven. </i> It's a pretty well-known fact, actually. Muslims, Christians, and Jews worship the same God. They all have a different perspective on Him and call Him different names, but it's the same deity. The Qur'an builds on the New Testament just as the New Testament builds on the Torah. bitblt Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 5:50 pm

“Therefore the Islam worshp the same God.” Believe this statement remains to be proven.

It’s a pretty well-known fact, actually. Muslims, Christians, and Jews worship the same God. They all have a different perspective on Him and call Him different names, but it’s the same deity. The Qur’an builds on the New Testament just as the New Testament builds on the Torah.

]]> By: LividLib http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-4326564 LividLib Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:07:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/#comment-4326564 gotta go! i'll be back tomorrow. gotta go!
i’ll be back tomorrow.

]]> By: LividLib http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-4326556 LividLib Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:05:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/#comment-4326556 good_golly? hello? answer the question! HOW MANY IS TOO MANY? good_golly?
hello?
answer the question!

HOW MANY IS TOO MANY?

]]> By: Xisithrus http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-4326552 Xisithrus Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:04:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/#comment-4326552 I will have to admit I do agree with some ideas that progressives throw out there but when they don’t agree with something. Its Mt. St Helen proportion hate and resentment they spew! -Themanoncecared That you cairngman? Pleae, your painting with a very wide biased brush here I think. I dont deal with hate and resentment. Your broad remarks dont give your opinion credibility I will have to admit I do agree with some ideas that progressives throw out there but when they don’t agree with something. Its Mt. St Helen proportion hate and resentment they spew! -Themanoncecared

That you cairngman? Pleae, your painting with a very wide biased brush here I think. I dont deal with hate and resentment. Your broad remarks dont give your opinion credibility

]]> By: Xisithrus http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-4326508 Xisithrus Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:01:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/17/bachmann-god-is-backing-the-united-states-in-iraq/#comment-4326508 IE OIl Laws. In February, 2007, the proposed draft of a new law to structure Iraq’s oil industry was leaked, and it is now being considered by the Iraqi parliament. Several key features of the law would: * Allow two-thirds of Iraq’s oil fields to be developed by private oil corporations. IE OIl Laws. In February, 2007, the proposed draft of a new law to structure Iraq’s oil industry was leaked, and it is now being considered by the Iraqi parliament. Several key features of the law would:

* Allow two-thirds of Iraq’s oil fields to be developed by private oil corporations.

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