Cheney’s world.
By on Mar 17th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
Cheney’s world.
On his trip to Iraq today, Vice President Dick Cheney asserted there has been “phenomenal” improvements in security, hours before a suicide bomber killed at least 40 people. Cheney also asserted that Iraq has been a “successful endeavor.” BarbinMD tallies today’s “success.”
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I guess when you take them back to the stone ages and kill a million of them that a lull in the killing would be phenomenal.
You can b!tch all you want about the figure….it’s closer than your estimate and millions more run completely out of thier country…..great job…
kinda funny that of all of the intelligent people on the earth giving input on this that the only ones who think it is a sucess is you and a handful of your neo-con buddies….
Most of the thinking populace of the world thinks this is a failure no matter how it works out.
March 17th, 2008 at 10:13 pmI’m with Fred on this one gigi.
Tstat Hussein guy
March 17th, 2008 at 10:16 pmImprovements? The surge working? If a man has a tendency to beat his wife, and someone calls the police, the immediate danger subsides. But what happens when the police leave. Likewise, how long is the the United States prepared to stay. Like McCain said 100 years is alright by him. Remember, a war of choice that will suck trillions of dollars out of the US economy and, as we are seeing today, a financial meltdown.
March 17th, 2008 at 10:19 pmgoon_golly Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
There have undoubtedly been phenomelal improvements, but there is obviously still work to be done.
Here’s a clue: simply repeating garbage over and over doesn’t make it true.
And a question: don’t you ever get tired of pretending that Republicans aren’t utterly incompetent at governing?
The occupation in Iraq isn’t “phenomelal” or even particularly good. It’s a great big sucking wound that is drawing trillions of dollars from our economy for years to come and has accomplished NOTHING that your leaders claimed it would. Nothing.
March 17th, 2008 at 10:24 pm“There have undoubtedly been phenomelal improvements, but there is obviously still work to be done.”
Thank Christ that a coin only has two sides
March 17th, 2008 at 10:24 pmYou know specificity in language is something Cheney et al don’t do. They pick something to say that favors their opinion or desired effect and short circuit any further discussion. How has the situation improved in Iraq? Stipulate your markers of improvement so we all understand just what it is you are saying when you say improvement.
March 17th, 2008 at 10:26 pmgum, Gigi doesn’t get tired of pretending that Republicans aren’t utterly incompetent at governing because she has lowered the bar so much that she can’t even tell anymore.
Besides, being utterly incompetent at governing is part of the Master Plan, so they kind of have to pretend it’s not an issue.
March 17th, 2008 at 10:28 pmdbadass Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Thank Christ that a coin only has two sides
yeah, but there’s always another corner to be turned, isn’t there?
March 17th, 2008 at 10:29 pm“A successful endeavor” = We managed to keep a lid on the $hitstorm we created until we left office so we could blame it on our (D) successor.
March 17th, 2008 at 10:30 pmJust wait until Muqtada lifts the cease fire right before the election. McSame won’t be able to be elected dog catcher.
OT – but you all might find this news interesting regarding Nachio (Quest). There was always something more than a little suspicious about this guy getting busted after Quest refused to cooperate with spying illegally on American citizens.
“The 10th United States Circuit Court of Appeals in Denver voted 2 to 1 to overturn all 19 guilty counts and ordered a new trial in front of a new judge, saying that Judge Edward Nottingham had improperly excluded an expert witness ready to testify for Mr. Nacchio.
“In her appeal, Ms. Mahoney had called the case “an unprecedented prosecution” in asking for Mr. Nacchio’s conviction to be overturned and a new judge be appointed.
“The extraordinary charges here are based on the claim that Nacchio knew, eight months or more in advance, that Qwest might not make its year-end 2001 financial projections,” she wrote in the appeals brief. “Counsel is aware of no other case where the government has predicated a criminal charge of insider trading on predictions about financial results for future quarters.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/17/technology/reuters-qwest.html
March 17th, 2008 at 10:32 pmIt’s phenomenal I tell ya, simply phenomenal. Who would have imagined that Halliburton and Exxon could have profitted from the blood of Americans and Iraqis and I still stay out of jail and not swinging from a lamp post!
Absofckinglutely phenomenal!
March 17th, 2008 at 10:36 pmI’m more interested in knowing what his mission is. It must be important to cause him to emerge from his super duper secret bunker. Oops, I meant “undisclosed location”.
March 17th, 2008 at 10:41 pmIf Iraq is what ’success’ is, I sure the Fu(k don’t want to know what failure would look like.
March 17th, 2008 at 10:44 pmWhat an SOB. Why doesn’t he just stay in Iraq?
March 17th, 2008 at 10:48 pmgood_golly Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
There have undoubtedly been phenomelal improvements, but there is obviously still work to be done.
yeah, there’s obviously still work to be done.
March 17th, 2008 at 10:50 pmjoe cantwell Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
btw, what color is the sky in cheney’s world?
March 17th, 2008 at 10:51 pmIn another two years good_golly will be saying the same thing as has been said for the last five.
March 17th, 2008 at 10:55 pmI think hes talking about costs gg which have been phenomenal.
March 17th, 2008 at 10:57 pmXisithrus Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
In another two years good_golly will be saying the same thing as has been said for the last five.
Au contraire. In two years, with a Democrat in the White House and solid Democratic majorities in both houses, Gigi will all of a sudden have discovered all the bad things that are going on in Iraq, and she’ll blame them on Demcorats.
March 17th, 2008 at 11:08 pm#17 joe cantwell,
March 17th, 2008 at 11:14 pmThe color / colour is red mist.
Ralph has it: “The Democrat party has been in power for two years and Americans are still dying in Iraq! Why do Democrats hate the troops?! McCain would have had them home in months.”
March 17th, 2008 at 11:15 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
yeah, but there’s always another corner to be turned, isn’t there?
And I mistakenly thought only alpacas had a sense of humor! Ralph is good people/animals
March 17th, 2008 at 11:15 pmOn behalf of all Iraqis, I’d like to say f*** Dick Cheney. Muddafugga don’t have a heart nor a soul. F*** him.
March 17th, 2008 at 11:21 pmTo paraphrase George Thorogood:
They all worried ’bout managin’ over there, they should be worried ’bout managin’ right here. They ain’t managin’ none of it.
March 17th, 2008 at 11:24 pmThere have undoubtedly been phenomenal improvements, otherwise there would have been at least twice as many deaths.
/sarc off
Don’t you love how the Bush cultists can always find a way to lower their expectations even more? It would be funny if it wasn’t so deadly.
March 17th, 2008 at 11:27 pmGod Damn! Does their endgame have to be spelled out for everyone? They only care about the oil! They only care about their own enrichment! Even if it means the total destruction of the United States of America, they only care about their personal wealth.
March 17th, 2008 at 11:28 pmKnow this, when the stock market crashes and thousands loses millions, it’s because the small, tiny few win big. That money doesn’t disappear, it goes somewhere! Right into the hands of the robber barons! The ownership class! This is just what they want just like when it happened during the Great Depression. The 1%ers get filthy richer and the 99%ers have to scrap it out.
This time I say we fight them! Why don’t we just tell them no, and HELL NO! Your life is yours and my life is mine! I will never be subserviant to them! EVER!
This economy crash is not by chance, it’s by design. Doubt it if you will but, never deny it!
Bush/Cheney… harbingers of Death and Destruction. For their own personal gain.
Hanging’s too good for them,
Burning’s too good for them,
They should be torn into little bitsy pieces and buried alive!
Um. Why has violence increased, during the last three months, if Iraq has been a “successful endeavor”.
March 17th, 2008 at 11:34 pmpete Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
Um. Why has violence increased, during the last three months, if Iraq has been a “successful endeavor”.
Because they were WRONG!!! Because they LIED!!! Because they paid al-Sadr NOT to attack the U.S. troops. So that the surge would look like a complete success. Bush/Cheney may be dumb and stupid but they’re not totally stupid. They do have informed advisors. Pay both sides to not fight! Hmmmm….. let’s see, blow up shit or myself and get nothing. Or, blow up nothing and get millions! Bush is my friend, I’ll take the millions!!!
March 17th, 2008 at 11:44 pmDid he get any good deals on rugs?
March 17th, 2008 at 11:48 pmThey don’t call him DICK for nothing…
PEACE
March 17th, 2008 at 11:48 pmBehind 20-ft, blast-proof “Bremer Walls” and securely inside the safety of the Green Zone, Cheney declares progress in Iraq.
March 17th, 2008 at 11:52 pmGoes to show you these people have no use for reality. They will say and do whatever it takes to further their own interests, the world be damned.
This new “successful endeavor” talking point is just another example of how they will say anything in order to “catapult the propaganda”.
Cheney is not deluded, senile, or on anything. He is saying what he needs to say to keep the faithful, well, faithful.
March 17th, 2008 at 11:56 pmGregor Samsa Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
Hahaha!!! In other words, if they were on fire I wouldn’t piss on them! The gutteral, lowlife scumbags that they are!!!…
March 18th, 2008 at 12:00 amMarch 16, 2008 by The Indepenedent/UK
Five Years of Occupation, Iraq Destroyed
Iraq is a country no more. Like much else, that was not the plan
by Patrick Cockburn
“There is now an 80,000 strong Sunni militia, paid for and allied to the US but hostile to the Iraqi government.”
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/03/16/7717/
March 18th, 2008 at 12:01 amIraq has been such a “successful endeavor” that, in fact, the Red Cross describes the situation in that country as a humanitarian crisis, and has for at least a year if memory serves.
Successful endeavor indeed.
March 18th, 2008 at 12:05 amMr. Evil @ 12:00 am,
I wouldn’t either. I can understand why the people at the top have to say these things, what I don’t understand is why the rank-and-file keep drinking the kool-aid.
Those are the people I do suspect are either deluded, senile, or on something. Maybe all, and then some.
March 18th, 2008 at 12:10 amAnyone notice the lack of trolls on this thread? Anyone ever notice how the truth can never be trumped? The truth is the truth! It’s that simple!
March 18th, 2008 at 12:12 amCharles Manson makes more sense than that fat old sociopath.
March 18th, 2008 at 12:12 am>There have undoubtedly been phenomelal improvements,
You mean like the Iraqi government giving a royal, public welcome to an iranian guy you claim is allied with al-queedas?
March 18th, 2008 at 12:45 amif you were osama bin laden wouldn’t you just be thrilled to have some bone heads completely and utterly take the bait? You absolutely know that you have no means of going up against your hated enemy with any conventional means, so you trigger one huge disasterous event that completely sucks in these boneheads, namely Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc. and all of their media friends such as William Kristol, et al. bin laden is sitting in a cave somewhere, getting news a few days late, perhaps, of this idiot Cheney is in Iraq and that he is still talking about winning, or progress, or achieving the goal. In the meantime, bin laden knows that his tactics have won! bin laden has divided the nation, plunged it towards financial chaos, and caused nations and people throughout the world to dispise the United States. he must be so thankful that Cheney and Friends have never read the book on terrorists’ tactics and still believe in John Wayne.
March 18th, 2008 at 12:49 amOh, how did our beloved country ever get to this point that we could possibly let these people govern?
“It sure enuff is good to be back in Iraq, yippee” Cheney chimed, dressed in a suit and dark cowboy boots, after his meeting with the Iraqi token head dude. “It’s especially significant to be able to return this week and mark any corners left undone on the fifth anniversary of when we unleashed holy hell in the name of a Christian god and rich white people’s manifest destiny. We liberated the naive people of Iraq from Saddam Hussein’s tyranny much to their dismay. The bigger kicker is we intentionally launched the Iraqi swine to the wrath of the Beelzebub cedar chopper from Godville, TX. We sent those good for nothing towel heads down the impossible road to a fake democracy while we figured every conceivable way to syphon off all their oil and revenues. The best part of this trip was when those two squirrels ran and jumped up my butt. It tickled so much I fired my shotgun into the meal hall. I laughed so I hard little bits of corn flew outta’ my nose. It was something to see, by golly. God I love war”.
The above comments have not been confirmed by the local or any regional news agencies. Until that time, these comments will be considered scuttlebutt as best.
March 18th, 2008 at 12:58 am.
Cheney also asserted that Iraq has been a “successful endeavor.”
Well Dickie, If you can call:
2,000,000 external refuges
2,000,000 internally displaced
=
4,000,000 exiles TOTAL
1,200,000 dead above pre-war death rate
….4,298 coalition death total
…29,395 estimated US injured
=
6,233,693 not to mention the scores of injured Iraqis civilians…
=
WTF??? Where’s the accountability here folks!?!?
.
March 18th, 2008 at 3:56 amGoing with this lunatics logic we should have been bombing the ranch in Crawford Bush has a much clearer link to AQ(Bin Laden himself),
March 18th, 2008 at 4:02 amChrist….these scumbags are devious and desparate to get thier kooknut followers to the polls. Looks like they’ve found their “gay marriage 2008″ wedge issue.. gun control:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/17/scotus.guns/index.html
“On Tuesday, The Supreme Court will decide whether Washington’s sweeping ban on handgun ownership violates an individual’s constitutional right to “keep and bear arms,” setting the stage for a potentially monumental legal and social battle, just in time for the 2008 elections.”
regardless of how the justices rule, after the ruling look for people behind the scenes to try getting gun related issues on the ballow in 2008 to drive the gun-humping militia crowd to the polls..guys…WARN YOUR LEGISLATORS NOW, THEY NEED TO DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO KEEP GUN RELATED ISSUES OFF ANY BALLOT in the upcoming elections..
March 18th, 2008 at 5:36 amFBI Watchlist Data Unreliable Internal Audit Says:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080317/ap_on_re_us/terror_watchlist
March 18th, 2008 at 5:51 amHere’s one for Exlexlia and his “surge is working” pals.
guess theres some things even bribery cant fix:
Iraqi reconciliation meeting off to rocky start:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080318/wl_nm/iraq_reconciliation_dc
March 18th, 2008 at 5:54 amanyone ever wonder why Switzerland has been neutral in every world war since the beginning of modern warfare?
their citizens get to vote on national initiatives.
March 18th, 2008 at 6:14 amWhy has this man not been impeached , tried, and imprisoned?
March 18th, 2008 at 6:31 amOn his trip to Iraq today, Vice President Dick Cheney asserted there has been “phenomenal” improvements in security
Uhm,
bombings at markets or sectary violence in February ‘03: 0
bombings at markets or sectary violence in March ‘08: Lots and lots.
Yes, improvement indeed. In killings of innocent civilians.
March 18th, 2008 at 6:46 amThe repug strategy enunciated by George Bush Sr. back in ‘80 and junior more recently is that if you keep repeating something, no matter how ridiculous, it will be believed by enough people that it might as well be true. “The surge is working” mantra has been repeated to the point that the press and the corporate pundits now accept it as a fact in spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Cheney is just continuing the practice and he almost does it with a straight face.
March 18th, 2008 at 7:21 amCheney slinks around Iraq like a hunted man while the president of Iran walks the streets greeted like a long lost relative. So much for the Bush foreign relations initiative.
March 18th, 2008 at 10:11 amCheney also asserted that Iraq has been a “successful endeavor”.
Indeed.
Halliburton’s Hella Good Deal
March 18th, 2008 at 10:35 amgood_golly Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
There have undoubtedly been phenomelal improvements, but there is obviously still work to be done.
gg,
“phenomelal” improvements? Such as? And what are you using as a baseline for comparison? Pre- or Post-invasion? were these so called “phenomelal” improvements worth the lives of approx 4000 U.S. troops, many times more innocent Iraqi civilians, a million or 2 displaced Iraqis and hundreds of billions of taxpayers dollars? More importantly, would you be willing to give your life or the life of a loved one for the “work” that still needs to be done?
btw, you never answered the question i posed yesterday – how many is too many?
March 18th, 2008 at 10:46 amI sincerely hope that Chenney will end up like his Second World War counterpart: Mussolini. His fat facist body hanging up side down and iltalians cueing to spit on it!
March 18th, 2008 at 12:19 pmBefore we ruined Iraq the people of that country have health care, schools, electricity, water, jobs, homes and they were the most secular country in the region, a good case could be made that if we purchased the oil as opposed to stealing it we’d still be paying $1.50 for gas.
Yet we have morons like Good Golly making statements that are so absurd as to have to question how they would have the intelligence to type. How, by any standard, could anyone say that (phenomelal – sp – I take that back, they don’t have the intelligence) “phenomenal improvements” have been made? By what standard?
You can keep slashing perfume on a pig, but it’s still a pig.
March 18th, 2008 at 1:24 pmoops – splashing … I’m not so smart either …
March 18th, 2008 at 1:26 pm