A new CNN poll finds that 74 percent of the American public believes the U.S. economy is already in a recession, “up from 66 percent who felt that way in a similar survey last month.” Fifty-three percent say the recession “will last more than a year.”
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rapidly approaching the 19% mark, i.e. those who think otherwise.
March 17th, 2008 at 5:34 pmWell this so-called “American public” is obviously just buying the propaganda put out by the doom-and-gloom media. If they just spent their time looking at funny cat pictures instead of reading the news, there’d be no recession!!!
March 17th, 2008 at 5:36 pmgood_golly Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Only 29% beleive it is a “serious recession.”
as i was saying…
March 17th, 2008 at 5:36 pmgood_golly Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Only 29% beleive it is a “serious recession.”
Yes. And another 30% think it’s a “moderate recession” and 16% think it’s a “mild recession.”
Wanna tell me what word those all have in common?
HINT: It’s not “serious,” “moderate,” or “mild.”
March 17th, 2008 at 5:38 pmflip
good_golly Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Only 29% beleive it is a “serious recession.”
flop
Comment by good_golly — February 29, 2008 @ 2:47 pm
March 17th, 2008 at 5:39 pmPollsters also predicted that Obama would win California by double digits. That is just one recent example of why I don’t put too much weight in them.
Bear Sterns was the fifth largest American investment bank.
Their stock a year ago…$170
March 17th, 2008 at 5:39 pma month ago….$60
a couple days ago….$30
Today $2
Badger Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
Bear Sterns was the fifth largest American investment bank.
Their stock a year ago…$170
a month ago….$60
a couple days ago….$30
Today $2
Bear Market?
March 17th, 2008 at 5:42 pmFrom Jerome a Paris’s excellent diary…The financial crash has a simple cause and a simple solution.
http://www.dailykos.com/ storyonly/ 2008/ 3/ 15/ 85833/ 3545/ 803/ 477181
that sea of debt had one real purpose: hide the fact that income for most are stagnating.
I never tire of posting this graph of the “W economy”, because it summarises in a nutshell what happened: growth happened, but did not trickle down to the middle classes, let alone the poor. Thanks to wage stagnation, made possible by the threats of outsourcing and offshorisation, and by the demonisation, emasculation or dismantlement of regulations and institutions (like unions) protecting workers, the fruits of growth have been captured by a very few - and this has been hidden because consumption was propped up by readily available debt and the apparently growing virtual wealth of homeowners.
March 17th, 2008 at 5:48 pmflip
good_golly Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
6. Joe. I still don’t put much faith in them, but if TP is going to bring up part of a poll, it is fair game to point out the missing details.
On the upside, TP has stopped talking about the National POTUS polls since McCain took the lead.
flop
Comment by good_golly — February 29, 2008 @ 2:47 pm
Pollsters also predicted that Obama would win California by double digits. That is just one recent example of why I don’t put too much weight in them.
(note: just because tp references polls doesn’t mean you have to. don’t you have free and independent will?)
March 17th, 2008 at 5:49 pmRepublicans are leaving government in droves to return to “private life.” If returning to “private life” is an option, without the need to stick around and hang on to your government salary, there is no recession.
Thank you,
The 19% mindset
March 17th, 2008 at 5:51 pm.
Two recessions in one Administration…
Another shinny achievement to place on one of the empty shelves of the G.W.B. Presidential LIEbrary.
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March 17th, 2008 at 5:54 pmEveryone knows that no one knows anything. Pffft.
March 17th, 2008 at 5:56 pmThe remaining 26% still have dubyah stickers on their pick-up trucks.
March 17th, 2008 at 5:57 pmSteve Doocy told Mr. Golly that today’s economy is the “gilded age” of our time.
March 17th, 2008 at 5:58 pmMax-1 Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
It’s no lie they can’t even afford to build it.
March 17th, 2008 at 5:58 pm6. Joe. I still don’t put much faith in them, but if TP is going to bring up part of a poll, it is fair game to point out the missing details.
On the upside, TP has stopped talking about the National POTUS polls since McCain took the lead. good_golly Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Ah, Mighty Moron, the FACTS ALWAYS have a liberal bias, because 30% believe we’re in a SERIOUS RECESSION, but an additional 30% believe we’re in a MODERATELY SERIOUS RECESSION. Which means that at least 60% believe we’re in something other than the happy-happy land of BushCo!! ROTFL, you’re AS DUMB AS ALWAYS - B**CH!
March 17th, 2008 at 5:58 pmInterviewing secret: Wear a flag lapel pin to interviews for jobs in GW’s government, and you’ll have an immediate advantage over other applicants.
March 17th, 2008 at 6:01 pm15 - I saw one on an suv here the other day that someone had tried, desperately and unsuccessfully, to remove. It looked like a badger had gone after it - a desperate, cornered badger with a #4 trap on its hind leg, whose wife had found out he’d blown all the kids’ college $ betting on republicans.
March 17th, 2008 at 6:01 pmIt looked like a badger had gone after it .
No Relation =)
March 17th, 2008 at 6:04 pm74% realize we’re in recession; the other 26% are the ones who are responsible for it.
March 17th, 2008 at 6:09 pm“The foundations of the economy are strong” Wasn’t someone around here just talking about saying untruths long enough….
March 17th, 2008 at 6:09 pmgood_golly references only one poll showing favorably for mccain. Most are still leaning for either Obama or Clinton in favor of mccain and that is despite the fact that mccain has no campaining going on against him at present……how do you think it will look when that changes…
gg please notice that only two of the polls listed on the folling link show what you state(and then only barely)……all others show the opposite. Please try to be reasonable or you will be called on your lies each and every time….and it is so easy.
http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08gen.htm
March 17th, 2008 at 6:09 pmI love the way the lockstep morons believe in polls when they reflect something they want; disavow them when they’re outed. Their transparency is laughable.
March 17th, 2008 at 6:10 pm#24 Don’t believe any of the McCrazy polls at all if they have him neck in neck with the dem candidate. It’s all part and parcel of the GOP plan to hijack the coming election - again! In order for them to do their evil work, the pre-election polls must be a dead heat; otherwise, the people will realize that they’ve been shafted and will storm the Bastille.
March 17th, 2008 at 6:11 pmWhen you adjust for inflation its undeniable we are in a recession that will get worse the more Bernanke inflates the dollar.
And so I ask good-golly, what good did those tax cuts do if your dollar has devalued by 40%? The tax cut was only 5%.
Now, does it occur to you good_golly, that debsing the dollar is a hidden tax increase? Why, your own party screwed you, vote for McCain and youll get more of the same.
March 17th, 2008 at 6:12 pm“The economy is strong and resilient” and “there is no civil war in Iraq” - both lies from the liar in chief. If he thinks that everyone is living in his unrealistic fantasy bubble, he’s sadly mistaken.
What shocks me is that he didn’t use his hackneyed old favorite word “resolve” in these two statements. Trust me, he’ll get it in there on the next one.
March 17th, 2008 at 6:13 pmThe reason for McCains supposed good ratings is because the democrat nominee is still not been chosen. Once that happens exepect McSame poll nummies to drop.
March 17th, 2008 at 6:14 pmMaybe we should all have a wallpaper party soon? Since the dollar is almost considered to be trash or toilet paper, why not wad up our constitution, add our dollars and wallpaper the town?
March 17th, 2008 at 6:14 pmX: I wish that I could be so sure. With the corporate fascist media doing the polling, I fear that they’re getting their ducks in a row early and setting their election tampering gremlins into motion as we type….Those Opti-Scan machines are almost as bad as the DRE’s. There’s a paper trail but will cost about $100,000 to hand count the ballots so it’s still a no-brainer and still totally hackable.
March 17th, 2008 at 6:16 pmlol cererus, I heard of one guy who had tons of pre-1982 pennies because they are copper and worth more than a penny as a metal.
March 17th, 2008 at 6:16 pmSorry, typo, *Cerberus
March 17th, 2008 at 6:16 pmtombaker Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
15 - I saw one on an suv here the other day that someone had tried, desperately and unsuccessfully, to remove. It looked like a badger had gone after it - a desperate, cornered badger with a #4 trap on its hind leg, whose wife had found out he’d blown all the kids’ college $ betting on republicans.
Sounds to me like there’s a huge untapped market in Dubya Sticker Removal. See? More jobs created by the Bush Administration!
March 17th, 2008 at 6:17 pmFred Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
fred are you saying flip-flop left “out the missing details”?
shocking!
March 17th, 2008 at 6:19 pmThose Opti-Scan machines are almost as bad as the DRE’s. There’s a paper trail but will cost about $100,000 to hand count the ballots so it’s still a no-brainer and still totally hackable.
Yes, Diebold is based on Windows CE and as such is prone to all kinds of monkey business. But a very high democratic turnout would make it alot harder.
March 17th, 2008 at 6:20 pmgood_golly Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Only 29% beleive it is a “serious recession.”
Good Gooshy is one of the 1% who believe it is a ‘hilarious recession’
March 17th, 2008 at 6:21 pmI believe the Govt. spends 17 cents to make ten pennies.
March 17th, 2008 at 6:22 pmGood Gooshy is one of the 1% who believe it is a ‘hilarious recession’ -RUC
Heh.
March 17th, 2008 at 6:23 pm“I love the way the lockstep morons believe in polls when they reflect something they want; disavow them when they’re outed.”
GG doesn’t actually believe what he writes. He is working for Team GOP.
March 17th, 2008 at 6:26 pmRUCerious Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
good_golly Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Only 29% beleive it is a “serious recession.”
Good Gooshy is one of the 1% who believe it is a ‘hilarious recession’
not if she was left holding bear stearns stock.
March 17th, 2008 at 6:27 pmI believe the Govt. spends 17 cents to make ten pennies.
Prior to that year [1982], pennies were 95% Copper and 5% zinc so I guess thats why he collects pre-1982 since the price of metals is growing.
March 17th, 2008 at 6:28 pmgood_golly would do anything for its team to win, including destroying the country they claim to love.
March 17th, 2008 at 6:29 pmBadger Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
I believe the Govt. spends 17 cents to make ten pennies.
Last figures I heard were
cost to manufacture penny = 2 cents
cost to manufacture nickel = 9 cents
And they keep on making them. Idiots!
March 17th, 2008 at 6:29 pmAnd they keep on making them. Idiots! -LFG
Ah well, its perfectly understandable when one dollar cost 4 cents…as does a 5 or 10 or 20 or 100 dollar bill does.
March 17th, 2008 at 6:32 pmGenius!!
I’ve been saying for two months that we are headed into a Depression!
March 17th, 2008 at 6:37 pmWe should celebrate every time Team GOP lickspittles like GG speak dismissively of the recession. It just makes them appear ever more clueless and out of touch. Voters may forgive the Bush administration for the war, which many Americans find abstract, but they won’t forgive GG’s team for the meltdown of their own pocketbook. The election will be a bloodbath for GG’s team.
March 17th, 2008 at 6:39 pmSounds to me like there’s a huge untapped market in Dubya Sticker Removal. See? More jobs created by the Bush Administration!
May I recommend the GDAMMIT-BumperSticker Combo Sandblaster/Etcher and Paint-Remover
March 17th, 2008 at 6:42 pmgood_golly Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Only 29% beleive it is a “serious recession.”
http://www.cnn.com/ 2008/ POLITICS/ 03/ 17/ poll.national/ index.html?eref=rss_topstories
Ins’t this the guy (gal?) who a week ago was saying “there is NO recession?”.
Want big chips with your words to eat?
March 17th, 2008 at 7:34 pmSTOP LOWERING INTEREST RATES, BERNANKE.
March 17th, 2008 at 7:34 pmI see good_golly is splitting the proverbial hairs, making a complete ass of himself -again.
Fact remains that most Americans are feeling the economic squeeze, and are not buying into the rosy scenarios that the White House istrying to sell them anymore.
March 17th, 2008 at 8:43 pmHave a nice look at the dollar.
http://stockcharts.com/ c-sc/ sc?s=USD&p=W&yr=25&mn=0&dy=0&i=p46458046041&a=86621016&r=3325
If you ask me, this whole thing (the war, the economy, the executive orders, the state secrets, the warrentless wiretapping) is nothing but theft of money. Personally I’d say about half of American’s money has been stolen. But hey I’m no economist, I just make a music tv show.
Here’s another scoop on the Financial Crisis. (if you don’t want to call it recession–why not just call it what it is–theft.)
March 17th, 2008 at 8:48 pmhttp://reopen911.org/financialcrisis.html
Welp that didn’t point to the (stockcharts.com chart) $USD chart
I was trying for..
March 17th, 2008 at 8:50 pmSorry about that. Some formatting must have munged the address.
Here’s the $USD chart. (un-munged)
http://tinyurl.com/2dgt8b
Again, sorry about that.
March 17th, 2008 at 8:54 pmwell, when the price of a sugar doughnut doubled overnight (along with the price of gas) , the pot holes are still in the road after 2 years (even in the expensive neighborhood), and the job you had for 20 years got outsourced to India, I’d say the economic outlooks not to bright…
March 17th, 2008 at 10:06 pmTake note that every time Bush or the White House in this (Current Administration) says something..hell anything, that the truth is usually the opposite.
So when he says there’s no problem with our economy, the opposite is true.
With all these cracked electronic vote tabulation devices, and super delegates deciding the candidates and the electoral college the actual winner we effectively now live in a fascist dictatorship. Your constitutional right to vote is effectively nullified.
March 17th, 2008 at 11:10 pmThings keep getting worse and worse during George Bush’s disastrous term. By the time his term is finally over, he will have a sure lock on worst president ever.
March 18th, 2008 at 2:51 amI notice that a lot of people are bickering over the word “recession”. If three quarters of the country are feeling the pain, does it really matter what we call it?
March 18th, 2008 at 9:02 amTo ggs #2, above.
To the 71% who don’t think it’s serious, two things.
One, give it a month or two, and then tell me it ain’t serious.
Two, I have this lovely bridge I’d like to sell you.
It does make me wonder what the view was like eighty years ago as the economy crashed and burned into a decade-long wreck.
March 18th, 2008 at 10:16 am