Cheney: The Longer We’re In Iraq, The ‘Better’ Iraqis Feel About America
Cheney: The Longer We’re In Iraq, The ‘Better’ Iraqis Feel About America
Today, Vice President Cheney spoke to U.S. troops at the Balad Air Force Base in Iraq. During the speech, he defended the war in Iraq as part of the “long-term struggle” that “became urgent on the morning of September 11th, 2001.” He also argued that the longer the war goes on, the more Iraqis “trust” and feel “better” about Americans:
We made a surge in operations, and the results are now clear: more effective raids to root out enemies; better and more accurate intelligence information from the locals; and higher hopes for the future from the Iraqi people. And across this country, the more that Iraqis have gotten to know Americans — the nature of our intentions, and the character of our soldiers — the better they’ve felt about the United States of America.
They know, above all, that America can be trusted. They know we’re a nation that accepts a hard job, and keeps at it even if others may tire of the effort. And we’ll continue working to help this young democracy, to be an example to others, and to be an ally in the war on terror.
In reality, the longer the United States stays in Iraq, the more frustrated Iraqis become. According to a BBC/ABC/ARD/NHK poll released yesterday, the number of Iraqis who don’t have “very much confidence” in U.S. occupation forces is at 33 percent — the highest point since 2003. Forty-six percent of Iraqis have no confidence at all, compared to just four percent with a “great deal of confidence.”
Forty-six percent of Iraqis also believe that the overall security situation in Iraq would be better if U.S. forces left entirely, compared to 29 percent who believe the situation would get worse. Additionally, 53 percent say that Bush’s “surge” has “made overall security worse, not better.”
Iraqis aren’t the only ones souring on the United States. According to a 2007 BBC poll, global opinion of America continues to plummet each day troops remain in Iraq:
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March 18th, 2008 at 3:19 pmfor every 1 dead Iraqi 25 more hate America
March 18th, 2008 at 3:19 pmI want whatever drug he's taking.
March 18th, 2008 at 3:21 pmso why did the Iraqis interview on TV a few days ago want Obama to win?
Is it because he wants to stay in Iraq?
March 18th, 2008 at 3:21 pmconsidering 1 in 20 Iraqis are dead (4% of the population )
1 in 10 have lost a leg or an arm
It would be safe to say that NOT 1 person in Iraq likes America ( or should I say Bush and the neocons)
March 18th, 2008 at 3:22 pmcheney,
quit straining like that! you'll get hemorrhoids!
March 18th, 2008 at 3:22 pmhe defended the war in Iraq as part of the “long-term struggle” that “became urgent on the morning of September 11th, 2001.”
Umm... it was "urgent" long before that, Numbnuts. You just didn't pay attention.
Either that, or you chose to let it happen to suit your own evil ends... after all, didn't the PNAC report call for a "new Pearl Harbor"?
March 18th, 2008 at 3:22 pmGeez -- every successive picture TP posts of this man shows him getting more and more demonic looking.
When will he disappear in a puff of acrid smoke?
March 18th, 2008 at 3:23 pmShayne Says:
I want whatever drug he’s taking.
No you don't, Shayne. It's extremely toxic to humans.
March 18th, 2008 at 3:23 pmhe looks more like a Nazi war criminal everyday
Oh I forgot he is
March 18th, 2008 at 3:26 pmMight be time for a brain implant for old limp Dick.
March 18th, 2008 at 3:27 pmOld Five Deferments Dick spouting more BushNewSpeak, what ever he says you can bet the truth is a complete 180 degrees from it.
Is there anything at all that these sleaze bags say that is not a blatant lie?
The new 12 year old troll "Themancantspell" will be here attempting to defend this War Criminal any time now. Honestly, I do get a giggle out of this new troll, the stupidity is beyond belief, and I do get a rather good chuckle out of it's attempt to post anything of worth.
Buck Fush
March 18th, 2008 at 3:28 pmThey know, above all, that America can be trusted.
Nothing like admitting to everyone that you and Chimpy are n't Americans , Dickhead ..............
March 18th, 2008 at 3:28 pmI posted this in the Bremer thread, but it seems to apply here as well. So if you all will indulge my repetition:
I have this dream every so often that a powerful foreign government sees Bush as a despotic leader who must be removed. They invade America, perform a bunch of shock-and-awe bombing and kick out Bush, Cheney, and everyone else who’s part of that administration. Naturally, the Bush loyalists put up a fight, but they can’t really do much because our National Guard is gone and our military is broken.
Afterwards, these foreign invaders hang around for “nation building” — the conventional wisdom being that if we are left to do it ourselves, we can’t be trusted to do it right and we will wind up with another tyrant for a leader. Furthermore, because we no longer have a government, our polarized society is in danger of breaking out into full-scale civil war.
How would we feel under such an occupation? Oh, there might be some of us who would be so glad to get rid of Bushco that we would greet the invaders as liberators and shower them with flowers and chocolate. At first. But how would we feel if they just hung around and never left? How would we feel about their building permanent military bases in our country? How would we feel about their championing puppet leaders for us? Would we "feel better" about the occupiers the longer they stayed?
Sometimes one has to put themselves in the other guy's position to truly understand. And even that doesn't always work for the clueless.
March 18th, 2008 at 3:30 pmAl-Hajj's Guantanamo cartoon banned
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/DDAA8ED2-368A-4029-9408-7DC97847233F.htm
The US army has banned the publication of four cartoons drawn by Sami al-Hajj, the Al Jazeera camera held in the US military prison at Guantanamo Bay
March 18th, 2008 at 3:31 pmmissmolly Says:
"Sometimes one has to put themselves in the other guy’s position to truly understand. And even that doesn’t always work for the clueless."
The big problem is that there are SO many within the American electorate that are clueless...or just don't care if criminals and idiots are elected.
March 18th, 2008 at 3:34 pmThe opinion of Chalabi doesn't count, Dick :)
March 18th, 2008 at 3:34 pmHere is a film that made steam come out of my ears , courtesy of Dem Underground ...........
http://www.leadingtowar.com/
I urge everyone to view the outright lies this administration , most especially Dickhead Cheney , spewed to precipitate this illegal invasion and occupation.......
March 18th, 2008 at 3:35 pmPinocchios nose would have whipped around the earth and stuck up his arse if he made up so many stories.
March 18th, 2008 at 3:35 pmmissmolly Says:
Sometimes one has to put themselves in the other guy’s position to truly understand. And even that doesn’t always work for the clueless.
Sadly, missmolly, this is where the modern conservative movement comes up short. Conservatives are incapable of empathy to any great degree.
Coincidentally, so are psychopaths.
March 18th, 2008 at 3:36 pmMany Iraqis have only gotten to know Americans through their bullets and bombs. Way to go showing the intentions of the United States
March 18th, 2008 at 3:37 pmThen take off your flack jacket and stroll around outside the Green Zone for a little "meet and greet" with all those grateful Iraqi's Dick ...
March 18th, 2008 at 3:39 pmThey know we’re a nation that accepts a hard job, and keeps at it even if others may tire of the effort.
Yeah , especially you and Chimpy ; 2 of the hardest working individuals to ever grace the planet .........Dick
March 18th, 2008 at 3:41 pmthere are many posts here at tp that the trolls won't go near. there just aren't enough lies to back them up.
this has been one of them.
March 18th, 2008 at 3:42 pmBut But But McCain says they wont love us till we defeat them for a hundred years!!
March 18th, 2008 at 3:43 pmIraqis are actually liking Iran more and more the longer we stay, which is probably what demons of war and cynicism like Dick were hoping for all along - an excuse to commit to a broader war involving Iran, and anything somewhat to the east, west, south, and north of that area, if you will, my friends.
March 18th, 2008 at 3:44 pmMonday: 2 US Soldiers, 63 Iraqis, 7 Iranians Killed; 111 Iraqis Wounded
DISGUSTING FIGURES GET OUT NOW
March 18th, 2008 at 3:48 pmDefine "better".
March 18th, 2008 at 3:49 pmI'm sure that among the Iraqis that haven't been killed, rendered homeless, or forced to endure hardships that would have made Job throw up his hands and quit, there are one or two Iraqis. The black marketeers, for one, I'm sure they love us Americans the longer we stay there.
And we know that al Qaeda loves us staying in Iraq, talk about a perfect recruiting opportunity for them.
March 18th, 2008 at 3:50 pmtombaker Says:
March 18th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Iraqis are actually liking Iran more and more the longer we stay, which is probably what demons of war and cynicism like Dick were hoping for all along - an excuse to commit to a broader war involving Iran, and anything somewhat to the east, west, south, and north of that area, if you will, my friends.
Which is just another example of "Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran" McStupid's idiocy ; Iran is 1,000 times what Iraq will ever be.
If we're going to be in Iraq for a century , you want to be fighting in Iran for 100 millenia ?
March 18th, 2008 at 3:50 pmLies from someone in the current administration?
March 18th, 2008 at 3:51 pmDo tell.
The longer he talks the better nobody feels.
March 18th, 2008 at 3:51 pmhellinabucket Says:
March 18th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
The longer he talks the better nobody feels.
Well maybe his heart surgeon does ; BTW , who is Dick's surgeon ?
Can he be deported for actually saving the loser's life , thus proving he is actually anti-American ?
March 18th, 2008 at 3:53 pmEstimated number of foreigners illigally crossing into iraq to support the insurgency 2007
Jan to May: 80-90 per month
Jun to Aug: 40-60 per month
Sep to Nov: 40 per month
By nationality
Saudi Arabia: 244.44 per cent
Syria 49.8 per cent
Libya 112.19 per cent
Algeria 43.7 per cent
Yemen 48.8 per cent
Morocco 36.6 per cent
Tunisia 32.5 per cent
Egypt 5.1 per cent
Jordan 11.2 per cent
other 15.3 per cent
http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/world/middle_east/iraq+by+numbers/774552#deadandwounded
March 18th, 2008 at 3:56 pmThemanoncecared Says:
March 18th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
so why did the Iraqis interview on TV a few days ago want Obama to win?
Is it because he wants to stay in Iraq?
Barack Hussein Obama! He has a Muslim name!
Ummmm , no , he doesn't ; he has an Arabic name , schmuck.........
March 18th, 2008 at 3:58 pmmissmolly Says:
March 18th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
"Geez — every successive picture TP posts of this man shows him getting more and more demonic looking.
When will he disappear in a puff of acrid smoke?"
Hopefully as soon as possible.
March 18th, 2008 at 3:58 pmTobie Tall Says:
March 18th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Estimated number of foreigners illigally crossing into iraq to support the insurgency 2007
Jan to May: 80-90 per month
Jun to Aug: 40-60 per month
Sep to Nov: 40 per month
By nationality
Saudi Arabia: 244.44 per cent
Syria 49.8 per cent
Libya 112.19 per cent
Algeria 43.7 per cent
Yemen 48.8 per cent
Morocco 36.6 per cent
Tunisia 32.5 per cent
Egypt 5.1 per cent
Jordan 11.2 per cent
other 15.3 per cent
http://www.channel4.com/ news/ articles/ world/ middle_east/ iraq+by+numbers/ 774552#deadandwounded
Looks as if Chimpy's flaming sword dance with the Saudi sheiks has had a very profound impact .......
March 18th, 2008 at 4:00 pmThemanoncecared Says:
March 18th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Barack Hussein Obama! He has a Muslim name!
Oh yes. That must be it. Of course!
March 18th, 2008 at 4:00 pmMarch 18th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
so why did the Iraqis interview on TV a few days ago want Obama to win?
Is it because he wants to stay in Iraq?
Barack Hussein Obama! He has a Muslim name!
Couldn't be. Bert Convy is convinced Mr. Obama intends to disband the military if elected. Muhammad Ali has a Muslim name!
March 18th, 2008 at 4:01 pmSemites are peoples who speak Semitic languages; the group includes Arabs, Aramaeans, Jews, and many Ethiopians. In a Biblical sense, Semites are peoples whose ancestry can be traced back to Shem, Noah's eldest son. The ancient Semitic populations were pastoral Nomads who several centuries before the Christian Era were migrating in large numbers from Arabia to Mesopotamia, the coasts of the Mediterranean Sea, and the Nile River delta. Jews and other Semites settled in villages in Judea, southern Palestine.
READ Themanoncecared, and educate yourself.
March 18th, 2008 at 4:02 pmMesopotamia is today Iraq themanoncecared. You know the place where the tower of babel was?
March 18th, 2008 at 4:04 pmdbadass Says:
March 18th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
March 18th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
so why did the Iraqis interview on TV a few days ago want Obama to win?
Is it because he wants to stay in Iraq?
Barack Hussein Obama! He has a Muslim name!
Couldn’t be. Bert Convy is convinced Mr. Obama intends to disband the military if elected. Muhammad Ali has a Muslim name!
And Muhammad Ali is much more patriotic and truthful than either Chimpy or Dickhead ; at least he honestly stated that true Muslims do not believe in armed conflict , and that it goes against their religious belief.
The 5 deferment putz and the moronic military deserting skid mark should have taken notes during that time......
March 18th, 2008 at 4:05 pmThemanoncecared Says:
Barack Hussein Obama! He has a Muslim name!
(ralph shakes head)
Useless.
Utterly useless troll.
March 18th, 2008 at 4:05 pmCaption: 'I'm in my last throes, if you will'...
March 18th, 2008 at 4:08 pmXisithrus Says:
READ Themanoncecared, and educate yourself.
You assume too much of this cretin, Xisithrus, LOL...it only listens to Rush's Stream of lies.
March 18th, 2008 at 4:09 pmFrench President Nicolas Sarkozy inflicted heavy losses on his right-wing camp in local elections.
whose approval rating has plunged below 40%.
thats him being shown the door then
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Sarkozy_under_pressure_after_local_poll_punishment/articleshow/2879428.cms
March 18th, 2008 at 4:09 pmXisithrus Says:
READ Themanoncecared, and educate yourself.
You assume too much of this cretin, Xisithrus, LOL…it only listens to Rush’s Stream of lies.
And Bush's 'Puddle of Consciousness'
March 18th, 2008 at 4:10 pmMerkel in Germany doing pretty bad too
March 18th, 2008 at 4:10 pmDead Iraqis love Dick Cheney. Or should that be Iraqis love a dead Dick Cheney.
March 18th, 2008 at 4:11 pmCheney: The Longer We’re In Iraq, The ‘Better’ Iraqis Feel About America
Winning over hearts and minds in Iraq : Act II ?
March 18th, 2008 at 4:14 pmThemanoncecared, aren't you going to insist that Barack won't say the Pledge of Allegiance? That he won't wear an American flag pin on his lapel, or that he'll be sworn in on the Koran, if elected?
C'mon - what kind of troll ARE you?
March 18th, 2008 at 4:14 pm14 - Brava, MissMolly, brava!!
March 18th, 2008 at 4:16 pmIt only listens to Rush’s Stream of lies. -=ZimZone=-
Inane little parrots would rather listen to a drug addict than read? Figgers.
March 18th, 2008 at 4:17 pmThe longer the Romans were in Israel, the better the better the Jews liked the Romans ?
Just don't mention Masada.
March 18th, 2008 at 4:19 pmTobie Tall Says:
March 18th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Estimated number of foreigners illigally crossing into iraq to support the insurgency 2007
Jan to May: 80-90 per month
Jun to Aug: 40-60 per month
Sep to Nov: 40 per month
By nationality
Saudi Arabia: 244.44 per cent
Syria 49.8 per cent
Libya 112.19 per cent
Algeria 43.7 per cent
Yemen 48.8 per cent
Morocco 36.6 per cent
Tunisia 32.5 per cent
Egypt 5.1 per cent
Jordan 11.2 per cent
other 15.3 per cent
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It took awhile, and tracing the source back a couple of spots, but I finally understand this "by nationality" table.
The figure of "244.44 per cent" for Saudi Arabia threw me, but in the original Brookings report, that figure is actually "244, 44%" -- in other words, there were 244 Saudis crossing into Iraq to support the insurgency, making up 44% of the total.
Anybody who wants to see the original source (complete with pie chart) can go here and scroll to page 24 of the PDF:
http://www.brookings.edu/saban/~/media/Files/Centers/Saban/Iraq%20Index/index20080228.pdf
Does anyone care that more Saudis are supporting the insurgency we are fighting than any other nationality? Does anyone care that more of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudis than any other nationality? Does anybody care that we are picking fights with everybody EXCEPT Saudi Arabia, while they are not being held accountable for their home-grown terrorists?
March 18th, 2008 at 4:22 pmMapleStreet Says:
March 18th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
The longer the Romans were in Israel, the better the better the Jews liked the Romans ?
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And the longer the Nazis were in France, the more warm fuzzy feelings the French had for Hitler, too.
(snark/off)
March 18th, 2008 at 4:25 pmWould someone lend me a set of vice grips, pliers and a chisel? Those teeth need some fixin.
March 18th, 2008 at 4:27 pmDo neocons tend to have bad teeth?
March 18th, 2008 at 4:28 pmDon't forget whitestrips, RU.
March 18th, 2008 at 4:29 pmAnd the longer the Nazis were in France, the more warm fuzzy feelings the French had for Hitler, too.
(snark/on)
March 18th, 2008 at 4:29 pmAnd the longer the Hittites were in Sumeria, the more....
Yeah, McWars, whitestrips of sulphuric acid, if you will...
March 18th, 2008 at 4:32 pmCheney: I met several Iraqis we haven't killed.
Yet.
March 18th, 2008 at 4:36 pmIt's amazing. He lives in such a different universe. The war was a success... for his bank account that is.
March 18th, 2008 at 4:40 pmThemanoncecared Says:
P
March 18th, 2008 at 4:42 pm. . . the better Halliburtom feels about its bottom line, too!
March 18th, 2008 at 4:42 pmmissmolly Says:
Does anyone care that more Saudis are supporting the insurgency we are fighting than any other nationality? Does anyone care that more of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudis than any other nationality? Does anybody care that we are picking fights with everybody EXCEPT Saudi Arabia, while they are not being held accountable for their home-grown terrorists?
SA is the birthplace of Wahhabism, it is logical that its roots would have gone the deepest there. Bin Laden is a Saudi, obvioulsy.
I am not certain we CAN pick any fights with SA; we totally depend on their oil, they hold huge amounts of our debt but most importantly they have Mecca and Medina - any overt action we took against them would cause a massive explosion of hate against the US.
The only thing that gives me hope is that the Royal Family is as big of an AQ target as we are, probably bigger. They know AQ threatens their reign. Unfortunately for us, they are quite happy to have their Wahhabists cross the border into Iraq - when they blow themselves up there, it isn't Saudi civilians who die and that is one less enemy for them to deal with. I guess the real question is, do our commanders in Iraq/political leaders understand this dynamic and are okay with it?
March 18th, 2008 at 4:45 pmThis comment by Deadeye is hilarious. It's fact that Iraq (AS WELL AS THE REST OF THE WORLD) lose respect for us with each passing day of our illegal occupation in Iraq. These thugs in chief have shreded the credibility of this country along with the constitution and the rule of law. Now with the dollar hitting the skids and our economy tanking, no one looks up to us any longer. How could they when the Chimp was reelected?? In a nutshell, we're slipping into obscurity - mimicking the USSR just prior to the decline of their country. They, too, put imperialism over the needs of their own people and it destroyed them as a world power.
By the time Bush exits stage right, this country will be a third world country. Imagine: One wrong man stealing the presidency twice did this to us; one demented executive who usurped the power to hold himself above the law has made us a country of white collar barbarians. One man - that man, none other than George W. Bush (or was that Emperor Bush?).
March 18th, 2008 at 4:48 pmThemanoncecared Says:
Mr Obama is a liar Flat out !!!!!!!!!!
I love when people make absurd declaritive statements. Wanna back it up now?
March 18th, 2008 at 4:49 pm#69 This troll isn't worth the time it takes to type a response. Don't engage the slime and he'll slink back into the abyss from which he crawled.
March 18th, 2008 at 4:49 pmKeep in mind that Cheney is the guy who insisted that all the televisions in his hotel rooms be tuned to FoxNoose before he even arrived. This is not someone who hears anything but what he chooses to hear and probably goes "Waaack waaack" whenever anyone tries to explain real life to him. Which, come to think of it, must have made for some interesting exchanges with Iraqis. I wonder what they made of it.
March 18th, 2008 at 4:49 pmdbadass: Trolls never have links or support documentation to their incredible lies. That's obvious. This particular skidmark is here only to activate others since he's starved for attention.
March 18th, 2008 at 4:50 pmgummitch: I think we can now classify Deadeye Dick as "profoundly in the throes of senile dementia".
March 18th, 2008 at 4:51 pmNot that I really care since I think Dick is the nastiest looking man on the face of the earth but WTF happened to his upper teeth on this photo? Maybe having all the TV's tuned to Fock Snooze made them fall out due to all the negative vibrations and they vibrated out. Or maybe the Iraqi's got to him and punched them out? Buttugly.
March 18th, 2008 at 4:54 pmThis makes complete sense because we were greated as liberators, weren't we?
March 18th, 2008 at 4:58 pmA corporate cyborg looting the cradle of civilization would have to delude himself into some form of equivocative reasoning that enables him to decimate lives beyond comprehension and still return to la la land unencumbered by any trace of a conscience.
This man has found it
Themanoncecared Says:
March 18th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
He said he’s never heard Mr Wright make statement’s like in the Trinity Church DVD a couple of days ago. Today, he said he heard the racists and derogatory statements from Mr Wright but disagreed with them and still went to the church anyway! His campaign is dun!!!
Yeah , it's so "dun" that he's the odds-on favorite to win , nitwit......Shut up already , assbag.
March 18th, 2008 at 4:59 pm#76
March 18th, 2008 at 5:00 pmI have no need to defend nor condemn Mr. Obama. Either way this is just plain weak. It would be too boring to list the many contridictory statements of any political figure regardless of their party. Seems you have selective outrage
Themanoncecared Says:
March 18th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Mr. Obama is about as dumb as you say I am!!!!
There you go with those declarative statements again. I ask again for the supporting documentation
March 18th, 2008 at 5:05 pmThemanoncecared Says:
March 18th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
He said he’s never heard Mr Wright make statement’s like in the Trinity Church DVD a couple of days ago. Today, he said he heard the racists and derogatory statements from Mr Wright but disagreed with them and still went to the church anyway! His campaign is dun!!!
That's right. Statistically, he's won the nomination. The only way he can lose is if the superdelegates screw him over.
And as for the Wright thing, it's now a non-issue. Barack Hussein Obama put that one to bed with an eloquent speech today that addressed race and the frustrations of the white and black communities in this country.
Sorry, troll - you lose again!
March 18th, 2008 at 5:09 pmYou have got to be kidding me. You Tube has a lot of stuff but a Senator Obama is a dumb as Themanoncecared clip seems unlikely.
March 18th, 2008 at 5:10 pm.
Headzup!
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March 18th, 2008 at 5:14 pmThemanisscared has bedbugs, don't talk to it or you'll get cooties!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 18th, 2008 at 5:15 pmThemanoncecared Says:
March 18th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
You wish it was a non-issue! Hey hussein toasterhead piss in one and a wish in the other and see which one fills up first!
No, it's the truth. It's a non-issue. Nobody but right-wing racists should have anything more to criticize.
You trolls will continue to bring it up, of course, but that's what you're paid to do.
March 18th, 2008 at 5:16 pmHey Themanisscared, Are you gigi's husband? You sound like him. Do you like necrophantasies?
March 18th, 2008 at 5:17 pmThe neocons refuse to believe the facts.Once again they have this very distorted view of the "Messapotamia" they created. If their a$$ was on fire they would say it`s not.November can`t come soon enough. peace out.
March 18th, 2008 at 5:20 pmSo Themanoncecared, is McCains illegitimate black child a "non-issue"?
March 18th, 2008 at 5:21 pm#76 Themanoncecared Says:
March 18th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
By your logic, any parishners that have attended ANY Catholic mass given by ANY Parish Priest involved in pedophilia, support pedophilia because they too, associate WITH that Parish and their Priest... NO? Or is Jerry Falwell and Pastor Hagee correct; HATE Americans that aren't Christian enough and kill brown Muslims?
LORD JESUS, SAVE ME FROM YOUR FOLLOWERS!
Why you insist on proving how one can not undo stupid is beyond sound reason, but you keep trying; the narrow mind at work.
I followed you earlier this AM and then had to leave for my weekly gold-star family, anti-war/bring the troops home vigil and haven't had a chance to retort, so here goes:
TROLL! If you want to support an unjustified war of aggression, a president that makes his people less secure in their homes and nation who undermines the FREEDOMS he claims THEY(sic) HATE US FOR ultimately surrendering our reputation and RIGHTS and FREEDOMS, then go live in CHINA! Why you can call yourself an American yet support actions that are antithetical to what have been long standing American principles and Rights is beyond me.
What kind of American argues to be less American?
Answer: Themanoncecared
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March 18th, 2008 at 5:28 pmhussein toasterhead Says:
March 18th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Themanoncecared Says:
March 18th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
You wish it was a non-issue! Hey hussein toasterhead piss in one and a wish in the other and see which one fills up first!
No, it’s the truth. It’s a non-issue. Nobody but right-wing racists should have anything more to criticize.
Toasterhead, I hope you are right. This whole thing has been eating at me - but I am not ready to declare it over yet, he was bleeding support in polls, they couldn't have all been right wing racists.
No time to chat more, I am outta here, but I suspect we'll be talking about this for a while.
March 18th, 2008 at 5:31 pmMax 1
Thank you for your work with gold star families. Are you a member? If so you have my deepest condolances.
Don't waste your time on idiots like themanisscared. Bash it if you feel like it, but a serious response to one of its assine postings is a waste of your energy. It has neither the willingess nor the capability to respond in a thoughtful manner.
And, it's a coward. You'll notice that it isn't fighting for what it claims to believe in. No, it's hiding back here safe and sound talking tough and shaking in fear of a black man.
March 18th, 2008 at 5:34 pm.
Hea everybody,
Themanoncecared is TROLLING for attention. If Themanoncecared can not stay on point with the thread and instead insists on hijacking the thread, then DO NOT RESPOND to Themanoncecared drivel.
FLAG Themanoncecared and then move on. Engagement encourages a longer stay.
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March 18th, 2008 at 5:36 pmMax-1 is correct. Arguing with an idiot like this troll only gives it the attention it craves, and keeps it around.
March 18th, 2008 at 5:38 pmBobwurst Says:
March 18th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
No Bob, I have, as they say, "no skin in the game".
I just see the difficulties suffered by the few who do have loved ones being used as pawns and tools. The founder of the group I stand with lost his son in Iraq in 2003, a month after initial combat started.
Peace
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March 18th, 2008 at 5:40 pmAs much as I enjoy a good game of Whack-A-Troll™ I also recognize that Themanisscared deserves flagging and no attention.
It's utterly useless. Not even clever enough to be entertaining.
March 18th, 2008 at 5:42 pmMcWars Says:
March 18th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Do neocons tend to have bad teeth?
Because the bones of the children and puppies are hard to floss out!
March 18th, 2008 at 5:51 pm#102 robbez_92107 Says:
March 18th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Oh,
I though it was from the use of Depleted Uranium.
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March 18th, 2008 at 5:56 pmUh, oh, Dickie's drinkin' his own oil again.
March 18th, 2008 at 6:26 pm# hussein toasterhead Says:
March 18th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Themanoncecared Says:
March 18th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
He said he’s never heard Mr Wright make statement’s like in the Trinity Church DVD a couple of days ago. Today, he said he heard the racists and derogatory statements from Mr Wright but disagreed with them and still went to the church anyway! His campaign is dun!!!
That’s right. Statistically, he’s won the nomination. The only way he can lose is if the superdelegates screw him over.
And as for the Wright thing, it’s now a non-issue. Barack Hussein Obama put that one to bed with an eloquent speech today that addressed race and the frustrations of the white and black communities in this country.
Sorry, troll - you lose again!
Not true, statistically he as tied the nomination, and the only way he can win is if the superdelegates screw over Hillary, as at this point neither of them have the votes necessary to win.
Eloquent speech? Where he blames the media and the ignorance and racism of white folks for all of his minister's lunatic religious comments? Sorry, but Obama's choice of an all black racist church as the spiritual guide for himself and his young children shows ineptly bad judgment! I'm so glad I voted for Hillary in the primaries, Obama is just not ready for the nomination! Heck, he couldn't even own up to how belonging to a completely racist, anti-semitic church was a mistake! What an idiot! And you're one for not recognizing what a fool you were for following the Hopium Cult !
March 18th, 2008 at 6:26 pmRe: Cerberus Your #75 post
Dang, thank you! I'm shaking so hard at work trying not to laugh out loud. Awesome, awesome!!
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March 18th, 2008 at 6:28 pmdbadass Says:
March 18th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
#76
I have no need to defend nor condemn Mr. Obama. Either way this is just plain weak. It would be too boring to list the many contridictory statements of any political figure regardless of their party. Seems you have selective outrage
We're talking about his church, his major choices, his personal attitudes (as is clearly reflected by his choice of churches) and the fact that he's blatantly lied (that's what you'd call it if GWB had done the same) on the issues. He's not the hope and change that all of the Hopium addicts had dreamed of. In fact, he's just as soiled, and far more bigoted than the supposedly bad Hillary is.
All I can say is that I'm glad I wasn't duped by him, and it's sad to me that you still are!
March 18th, 2008 at 6:29 pmFor a long time I've felt Cheney needs to be impeached.......now I think he should be in a mental hospital.....he is a danger to others.
March 18th, 2008 at 6:37 pmWho let the republican in denial back in? Not only does he hate facts, he thinks attending a church and getting married by a pastor who may have said some awfully Righteous rants regarding how America the "Christian Nation" Is, well, rather unChristian.
Republicans wallow in guilt by association, al-la ad homonym attacks. By their frame of narrow wisdumb ANY Catholic that has attended mass or married by a Priest that has also been indicted as a pedophile, supports pedophilia.
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March 18th, 2008 at 6:41 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
March 18th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
We’re talking about his church, his major choices, his personal attitudes (as is clearly reflected by his choice of churches) and the fact that he’s blatantly lied (that’s what you’d call it if GWB had done the same) on the issues. He’s not the hope and change that all of the Hopium addicts had dreamed of. In fact, he’s just as soiled, and far more bigoted than the supposedly bad Hillary is.
You make presumptions which are unsubstantiated by any words I have ever expressed. Most peoples Church has little to do with some deeper meaning other than sect, location, and family tradition. As to Ms. Clinton, I also have no reason to condemn nor defend her either.
March 18th, 2008 at 7:12 pmAnd the longer YOU stay in Iraq, the better I feel.
March 18th, 2008 at 7:18 pmIn fact, why don't you just move over into the green zone where a nice embassy is being built -- there's room for Lynn and your daughters, and grandchildren.
Not that we really need it but because the airhead troll brought it up, I'll post it. Barak Obama did not say that he had heard Wright say the things that were all over the airwaves. What he said was:
He said he had heard his pastor say some controversial things he disagreed with, not that he had heard the remarks that were on TV. When I went to church I heard the reverend say some controversial things that I didn't agree with. But I did not judge the reverend on those words, I judged her on who she was and what she brought to the church. Most of what she brought was a message of love and hope.
March 18th, 2008 at 7:28 pmdbadass Says:
We’re talking about his church, his major choices, his personal attitudes (as is clearly reflected by his choice of churches) and the fact that he’s blatantly lied (that’s what you’d call it if GWB had done the same) on the issues. He’s not the hope and change that all of the Hopium addicts had dreamed of. In fact, he’s just as soiled, and far more bigoted than the supposedly bad Hillary is.
Your Hillary devotion is obviously blinding you and affecting your hearing. I guess you are agreeing with our resident troll and saying that Obama lied because he said in his speech that he had heard Wright say some controversial things. He did not say he heard him say the things he said on the video that was circulating. He also went on to condemn the things Wright said on the video tape as divisive and unhelpful to the racial situation in this country.
What are you going to do a$$ when Obama is the candidate? Are you going to vote for McCain?
March 18th, 2008 at 7:33 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
Not true, statistically he as tied the nomination, and the only way he can win is if the superdelegates screw over Hillary, as at this point neither of them have the votes necessary to win.
You obviously flunked math in school. They are no where near tied. Obama has over 100 more delegates than Clinton has. In order to catch him she will need to take 60% plus in every election from now until the convention. It's not going to happen. You are correct that at this point neither have the delegates to win. But Hillary won't be able to come out in the end with more delegates and I doubt she will even win in the popular vote. So, the only way she can win is if the super delegates go against the wishes of the people in this country and appoint her. That will tear the Democratic party in two and probably give the election to the Republicans. Is that what you want to see happen?
BTW, when Obama is the candidate, what are you going to do? Are you going to vote for McCain?
March 18th, 2008 at 7:38 pmUh, Bilbo, it wasn't dbadass who said that, he was quoting RepukesHateFax...
March 18th, 2008 at 7:40 pmNo problem. I have both manners and a peaceful demeanor.Seems that both are becoming a little less common of late
March 18th, 2008 at 7:58 pmRUCerious Says:
March 18th, 2008 at 7:40 pm
Uh, Bilbo, it wasn’t dbadass who said that, he was quoting RepukesHateFax…
Sorry, this new posting system sucks. It's really hard to follow who said what.
March 18th, 2008 at 8:08 pmCaption:
March 18th, 2008 at 8:15 pmJust corroberated my 9-11 story with the Saudi's . . .
my pooper hurts . . .
It is amazing to see their cunning technique... Must be one of Rove's step by step books. Everytime they speak they say the opposite to the truth. Everytime! "Saddam has stockpile of WMD", "The US does not torture", "We are not in a Recession", "If someone from my adminisitration is found guilty of treason, they will ...", "It is not a Surge, it is an audmantaion", "Katrina?!...We've done a great job!", "No no, we have nothing to do with 9/11", "Mission acomplished!"... Everytime they say something in public they do this! Chenney should be handcuffed, hooded, and taken to Hague imediatly! I hope the USA one day will be serious in restoring its credibility and make these criminals face accountability under the International Law! That is, if they ever get serious about it!
March 19th, 2008 at 1:00 amRegarding anything uttered by Dick cheney, you know you have to taste the Koolaid if you are to mix it properly.
March 19th, 2008 at 1:26 pmCheney: The Longer We’re In Iraq, The ‘Better’ Iraqis Feel About America
March 21st, 2008 at 3:09 pmThe better Iraqis FEEL???? This is code for: the longer we stay in Iraq, the longer we can force our ways on the coming generation.. AND the longer we can grow our investments.
F you cheney... Obama will clean up and put an end to your evil ways.
But the remarks that have caused this recent firestorm weren’t simply controversial. They weren’t simply a religious leader’s effort to speak out against perceived injustice. Instead, they expressed a profoundly distorted view of this country - a view that sees white racism as endemic, and that elevates what is wrong with America above all that we know is right with America; a view that sees the conflicts in the Middle East as rooted primarily in the actions of stalwart allies like Israel, instead of emanating from the perverse and hateful ideologies of radical Islam.
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