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		<title>By: batteries</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/19/cheney-distorts-iran-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-5284458</link>
		<dc:creator>batteries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>During Bush’s first term, even though he labeled North Korea a member of the “Axis Of Evil”, all appearances suggest that nobody in the Bush Administration seriously considered using the One Percent Doctrine against North Korea even though they were taking steps that were much more suggestive of an active nuclear weapons development program — expelling UN inspectors, dismantling UN monitor cameras, and unloading fuel rods from their reactors. A Pakistani scientist by name of Abdul Qareem Khan is known to have passed nuclear technology secrets to North Korea, and there is reason to believe that North Korea’s claim of a successful underground nuclear bomb test in 2006 may not be an exaggeration. Although their long-range missile tests have not been successful, they have short-range missile technology with which they can reach Japan and parts of Russia. Granted, it’s quite possible that one answer to the question of why we haven’t used the One Percent Doctrine there can be summed up in one word  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.batterylaptoppower.com/hp/zt3300.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;hp zt3300 battery&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.batterylaptoppower.com/hp/zt3400-.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;hp zt3400  battery&lt;/a&gt; but it doesn’t change the fact that our policy is hypocritical and our antagonism rather conveniently slanted towards those countries with large reserves of petroleum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During Bush’s first term, even though he labeled North Korea a member of the “Axis Of Evil”, all appearances suggest that nobody in the Bush Administration seriously considered using the One Percent Doctrine against North Korea even though they were taking steps that were much more suggestive of an active nuclear weapons development program — expelling UN inspectors, dismantling UN monitor cameras, and unloading fuel rods from their reactors. A Pakistani scientist by name of Abdul Qareem Khan is known to have passed nuclear technology secrets to North Korea, and there is reason to believe that North Korea’s claim of a successful underground nuclear bomb test in 2006 may not be an exaggeration. Although their long-range missile tests have not been successful, they have short-range missile technology with which they can reach Japan and parts of Russia. Granted, it’s quite possible that one answer to the question of why we haven’t used the One Percent Doctrine there can be summed up in one word  <a href="http://www.batterylaptoppower.com/hp/zt3300.htm" rel="nofollow">hp zt3300 battery</a>,<a href="http://www.batterylaptoppower.com/hp/zt3400-.htm" rel="nofollow">hp zt3400  battery</a> but it doesn’t change the fact that our policy is hypocritical and our antagonism rather conveniently slanted towards those countries with large reserves of petroleum.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5284458', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: efrance23</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/19/cheney-distorts-iran-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-4612562</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 05:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even as a seasoned vet of reality, I find it amazing how often the US Govt. &quot;policy makers&quot; repeat the mistakes of Vietnam and of their Isreali allies -- if the current situation in Iraq and Iran re: US &quot;strategy&quot; isn&#039;t deja vu all over again, then I&#039;m clueless ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even as a seasoned vet of reality, I find it amazing how often the US Govt. &#8220;policy makers&#8221; repeat the mistakes of Vietnam and of their Isreali allies &#8212; if the current situation in Iraq and Iran re: US &#8220;strategy&#8221; isn&#8217;t deja vu all over again, then I&#8217;m clueless ;)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4612562', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: sacopenapa</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/19/cheney-distorts-iran-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-4359092</link>
		<dc:creator>sacopenapa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 01:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chenney has no credibility when he opens his ugly mouth! If the US is ever interested in restoring the United States International credibility, it has to start by indicting imprisioning Chenney/Bush and Co. for War Crimes. And for War Crimes these bastards have to face the death sqauad!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chenney has no credibility when he opens his ugly mouth! If the US is ever interested in restoring the United States International credibility, it has to start by indicting imprisioning Chenney/Bush and Co. for War Crimes. And for War Crimes these bastards have to face the death sqauad!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4359092', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bluestocking</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bluestocking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 00:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since the&lt;em&gt; end of World War Two, the U.S. has supported dozens of murderous dictators both financially and militarily: for example, Joseph Mobutu of Zaire, Augusto Pinochet of Chili, Suharto of Indonesia, Saddam Hussein of Iraq, the shah of Iran, Anastasio Somoza of Nicaragua, Fulgencio Batista of Cuba, and dictatorships in Greece, Portugal, Pakistan, Egypt, and many other countries. In 1954 the CIA sabotaged the elected government in Guatemala. The U.S. invaded Panama in 1989, killing 3,000 to 4,000 civilians. It trained and supported death squads in El Salvador. It supported the Taliban, brought the Ba’ath Party to power in Iraq, and sold material for chemical weapons to the regime of Saddam Hussein. -- Tobie Tall

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Excellent comment, Tobie.  However, if I may add to your list, don&#039;t forget America&#039;s recent dealings with Islam Karimov, the  dictator of Uzbekistan.  What irony...the Bush administration enlists the assistance of one brutal and corrupt dictator (Karimov -- a man who has reportedly had political opponents boiled alive) in their efforts to unseat another brutal and corrupt dictator (Hussein).

I&#039;ve said this many times before and will say it again -- the United States is not the staunch defender of democracy that it purports itself to be.  Yes, the United States has been willing to defend democracy -- when it&#039;s suited our purposes to do so.  However, we&#039;ve also been quite willing to turn our backs on democracy when it&#039;s suited our purposes to do so -- and on at least one occasion, even subvert it outright.

Don&#039;t believe me?  Let&#039;s consider a certain joint government operation between the United States and Great Britain during the Eisenhower administration which succeeded in its goal of unseating the democratically-elected Prime Minister of a certain Middle Eastern country and return a certain monarch to power -- a monarch who promptly sentenced the Prime Minister to death (later commuted to a life sentence under house arrest) and is known to have practiced torture upon his political opponents during a reign which lasted for over two decades.  The reason why the US and Great Britain wanted to unseat the Prime Minister? He planned to nationalize the country&#039;s oil industry.  Of which country, you ask, do I speak?

Iran.

The monarch in question was, of course, Shah Reza Pahlevi.  The democratically-elected Prime Minister was Dr. Mohammed Mossadegh, and the government operation in question was code-named Operation Ajax.

If the Iranians have a problem with the United States, doesn&#039;t this put things into some more perspective -- and suggest that they might actually have some &lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;reason&lt;/em&gt; for feeling that way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the<em> end of World War Two, the U.S. has supported dozens of murderous dictators both financially and militarily: for example, Joseph Mobutu of Zaire, Augusto Pinochet of Chili, Suharto of Indonesia, Saddam Hussein of Iraq, the shah of Iran, Anastasio Somoza of Nicaragua, Fulgencio Batista of Cuba, and dictatorships in Greece, Portugal, Pakistan, Egypt, and many other countries. In 1954 the CIA sabotaged the elected government in Guatemala. The U.S. invaded Panama in 1989, killing 3,000 to 4,000 civilians. It trained and supported death squads in El Salvador. It supported the Taliban, brought the Ba’ath Party to power in Iraq, and sold material for chemical weapons to the regime of Saddam Hussein. &#8212; Tobie Tall</p>
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<p>Excellent comment, Tobie.  However, if I may add to your list, don&#8217;t forget America&#8217;s recent dealings with Islam Karimov, the  dictator of Uzbekistan.  What irony&#8230;the Bush administration enlists the assistance of one brutal and corrupt dictator (Karimov &#8212; a man who has reportedly had political opponents boiled alive) in their efforts to unseat another brutal and corrupt dictator (Hussein).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve said this many times before and will say it again &#8212; the United States is not the staunch defender of democracy that it purports itself to be.  Yes, the United States has been willing to defend democracy &#8212; when it&#8217;s suited our purposes to do so.  However, we&#8217;ve also been quite willing to turn our backs on democracy when it&#8217;s suited our purposes to do so &#8212; and on at least one occasion, even subvert it outright.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t believe me?  Let&#8217;s consider a certain joint government operation between the United States and Great Britain during the Eisenhower administration which succeeded in its goal of unseating the democratically-elected Prime Minister of a certain Middle Eastern country and return a certain monarch to power &#8212; a monarch who promptly sentenced the Prime Minister to death (later commuted to a life sentence under house arrest) and is known to have practiced torture upon his political opponents during a reign which lasted for over two decades.  The reason why the US and Great Britain wanted to unseat the Prime Minister? He planned to nationalize the country&#8217;s oil industry.  Of which country, you ask, do I speak?</p>
<p>Iran.</p>
<p>The monarch in question was, of course, Shah Reza Pahlevi.  The democratically-elected Prime Minister was Dr. Mohammed Mossadegh, and the government operation in question was code-named Operation Ajax.</p>
<p>If the Iranians have a problem with the United States, doesn&#8217;t this put things into some more perspective &#8212; and suggest that they might actually have some </em><em>reason</em> for feeling that way?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4358322', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Crazy Cat Lady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crazy Cat Lady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read this article from The Onion, published just after GWB was first elected president in January of 2001:

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28784

It really underscores just how surreal the past eight years have been when a scathing parody turns out to be virtually dead-on accurate.

Only generally on-topic, hope that&#039;s okay.

-Crazy Hussein Cat Lady</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read this article from The Onion, published just after GWB was first elected president in January of 2001:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28784" rel="nofollow">http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28784</a></p>
<p>It really underscores just how surreal the past eight years have been when a scathing parody turns out to be virtually dead-on accurate.</p>
<p>Only generally on-topic, hope that&#8217;s okay.</p>
<p>-Crazy Hussein Cat Lady<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4357762', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tombaker</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Dick&lt;/em&gt;distorts time and space, because he&#039;s a black hole of evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Dick</em>distorts time and space, because he&#8217;s a black hole of evil.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4357432', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Max-1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max-1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.

&lt;strong&gt;CHENEY = LIAR!&lt;/strong&gt;

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<p><strong>CHENEY = LIAR!</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Bluestocking</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/19/cheney-distorts-iran-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-4355964</link>
		<dc:creator>Bluestocking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is anyone surprised?  This is nothing more than a variation on the One Percent Doctrine which the Bush administration used to justify the War In Iraq -- that the possibility of a nation or group of people acquiring or developing WMD, even if the chance is as remote as 1%, should be regarded as a certainty and a response made in the form of immediate action rather than merely formulating a contingency strategy.  Of course, if Aesop were alive today to comment on this policy, he would likely make reference to his story of The Wolf And The Lamb...the moral of which is that &quot;any excuse will serve a tyrant&quot;.

All one has to do in order to see that this is primarily what the One Percent Doctrine is -- a trumped-up excuse created deliberately by members of the Bush administration in order to justify an oil grab -- is to consider three things:

1) Dick Cheney is one of the founding members of Project for a New American Century (PNAC).  His name appears alongside those of several other past members of the Bush administration such as Libby, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz on PNAC&#039;s Statement of Principles dated June 3, 1997 -- which can be found on PNAC&#039;s website, http://www.newamericancentury.org.  As far back as the Clinton administration, PNAC was stating their belief in the importance of removing Saddam Hussein from power and promoting the United States as a dominant force throughout the globe.  They even went so far as to state (in a 2000 report titled &quot;Rebuilding America&#039;s Defenses&quot; which can also be found on their website) that &quot;the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, &lt;em&gt;absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event––like a new Pearl Harbor&lt;/em&gt;&quot;.  Even the most hardened skeptic has to admit that even if 9/11 was a complete coincidence of which the Bush administration had absolutely no foreknowledge, it was to say the least a remarkably convenient one from the perspective of PNAC.

2) Iran is known to be have one of the world&#039;s top five largest oil reserves, as is Iraq.  Saudi Arabia (naturally) heads the list, Canada is second, Iraq is third, Iran is fourth, Kuwait is fifth.  Consider also that one member of Cheney&#039;s secretive Energy Task Force is a man named Matthew Simmonds, who has for twenty years managed his own investment bank specializing in the energy industry.  Today, Simmonds is a prominent and vocal figure within the Peak Oil movement.  Coincidence?  Perhaps...but perhaps not.

3) During Bush&#039;s first term, even though he labeled North Korea a member of the &quot;Axis Of Evil&quot;, all appearances suggest that nobody in the Bush Administration seriously considered using the One Percent Doctrine against North Korea even though they were taking steps that were much more suggestive of an active nuclear weapons development program -- expelling UN inspectors, dismantling UN monitor cameras, and unloading fuel rods from their reactors.  A Pakistani scientist by name of Abdul Qareem Khan is known to have passed nuclear technology secrets to North Korea, and there is reason to believe that North Korea&#039;s claim of a successful underground nuclear bomb test in 2006 may not be an exaggeration.  Although their long-range missile tests have not been successful, they have short-range missile technology with which they can reach Japan and parts of Russia.  Granted, it&#039;s quite possible that one answer to the question of why we haven&#039;t used the One Percent Doctrine there can be summed up in one word -- China -- but it doesn&#039;t change the fact that our policy is hypocritical and our antagonism rather conveniently slanted towards those countries with large reserves of petroleum.

As an aside, isn&#039;t it interesting that nobody in the Bush administration has apparently thought to apply a variation of the One Percent Doctrine to something like global warming?  Or strengthening levees -- i.e., Hurricane Katrina?  Or strengthening bridges -- i.e., Minneapolis?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is anyone surprised?  This is nothing more than a variation on the One Percent Doctrine which the Bush administration used to justify the War In Iraq &#8212; that the possibility of a nation or group of people acquiring or developing WMD, even if the chance is as remote as 1%, should be regarded as a certainty and a response made in the form of immediate action rather than merely formulating a contingency strategy.  Of course, if Aesop were alive today to comment on this policy, he would likely make reference to his story of The Wolf And The Lamb&#8230;the moral of which is that &#8220;any excuse will serve a tyrant&#8221;.</p>
<p>All one has to do in order to see that this is primarily what the One Percent Doctrine is &#8212; a trumped-up excuse created deliberately by members of the Bush administration in order to justify an oil grab &#8212; is to consider three things:</p>
<p>1) Dick Cheney is one of the founding members of Project for a New American Century (PNAC).  His name appears alongside those of several other past members of the Bush administration such as Libby, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz on PNAC&#8217;s Statement of Principles dated June 3, 1997 &#8212; which can be found on PNAC&#8217;s website, <a href="http://www.newamericancentury.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.newamericancentury.org</a>.  As far back as the Clinton administration, PNAC was stating their belief in the importance of removing Saddam Hussein from power and promoting the United States as a dominant force throughout the globe.  They even went so far as to state (in a 2000 report titled &#8220;Rebuilding America&#8217;s Defenses&#8221; which can also be found on their website) that &#8220;the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, <em>absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event––like a new Pearl Harbor</em>&#8220;.  Even the most hardened skeptic has to admit that even if 9/11 was a complete coincidence of which the Bush administration had absolutely no foreknowledge, it was to say the least a remarkably convenient one from the perspective of PNAC.</p>
<p>2) Iran is known to be have one of the world&#8217;s top five largest oil reserves, as is Iraq.  Saudi Arabia (naturally) heads the list, Canada is second, Iraq is third, Iran is fourth, Kuwait is fifth.  Consider also that one member of Cheney&#8217;s secretive Energy Task Force is a man named Matthew Simmonds, who has for twenty years managed his own investment bank specializing in the energy industry.  Today, Simmonds is a prominent and vocal figure within the Peak Oil movement.  Coincidence?  Perhaps&#8230;but perhaps not.</p>
<p>3) During Bush&#8217;s first term, even though he labeled North Korea a member of the &#8220;Axis Of Evil&#8221;, all appearances suggest that nobody in the Bush Administration seriously considered using the One Percent Doctrine against North Korea even though they were taking steps that were much more suggestive of an active nuclear weapons development program &#8212; expelling UN inspectors, dismantling UN monitor cameras, and unloading fuel rods from their reactors.  A Pakistani scientist by name of Abdul Qareem Khan is known to have passed nuclear technology secrets to North Korea, and there is reason to believe that North Korea&#8217;s claim of a successful underground nuclear bomb test in 2006 may not be an exaggeration.  Although their long-range missile tests have not been successful, they have short-range missile technology with which they can reach Japan and parts of Russia.  Granted, it&#8217;s quite possible that one answer to the question of why we haven&#8217;t used the One Percent Doctrine there can be summed up in one word &#8212; China &#8212; but it doesn&#8217;t change the fact that our policy is hypocritical and our antagonism rather conveniently slanted towards those countries with large reserves of petroleum.</p>
<p>As an aside, isn&#8217;t it interesting that nobody in the Bush administration has apparently thought to apply a variation of the One Percent Doctrine to something like global warming?  Or strengthening levees &#8212; i.e., Hurricane Katrina?  Or strengthening bridges &#8212; i.e., Minneapolis?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4355964', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MapleStreet</title>
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		<dc:creator>MapleStreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if 99% of those in on the government intelligence don&#039;t see a 6 foot tall pink rabbit and 1 person sees a 6-foot tall pink rabbit, what is the natural conclusion ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if 99% of those in on the government intelligence don&#8217;t see a 6 foot tall pink rabbit and 1 person sees a 6-foot tall pink rabbit, what is the natural conclusion ?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4355862', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JMOHR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMOHR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good_golly is nothing but a distorting liar.  Gigi posits that the position of Obama is the same as that of Cheney.  Note what a person with no regards for the truth will say:



&lt;blockquote&gt;“The war in Iraq has emboldened Iran, which poses the greatest challenge to American interests in the Middle East in a generation, continuing its nuclear program and threatening our ally, Israel.”

SO, ACCORDING TO BARAK OBAMA, IRAN IS CONTINUING ITS NUCLEAR PROGRAM AND THREATENING OUT ALLY, ISRAEL.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Gigi will not note the significant differences between Cheney&#039;s and Obamas statements. In particular, Cheney is addressing whether or not Iran has an active nuclear weaponization program as opposed to a nuclear program that involves enrichment of uranium for use in energy production.  Obviously, we should be concerned with enrichment since it can be used for both peaceful energy development or weaponization.  Iran has made threatening statements against Israel.  We ought to be concerned.  However, Cheney attempts to distort and mislead the public into believing that Iran has an active program to develop a nuclear weapon.  That is a significantly different statement.  However, those with little moral compunction or values, like gigi, will obviously lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good_golly is nothing but a distorting liar.  Gigi posits that the position of Obama is the same as that of Cheney.  Note what a person with no regards for the truth will say:</p>
<blockquote><p>“The war in Iraq has emboldened Iran, which poses the greatest challenge to American interests in the Middle East in a generation, continuing its nuclear program and threatening our ally, Israel.”</p>
<p>SO, ACCORDING TO BARAK OBAMA, IRAN IS CONTINUING ITS NUCLEAR PROGRAM AND THREATENING OUT ALLY, ISRAEL.</p></blockquote>
<p>Gigi will not note the significant differences between Cheney&#8217;s and Obamas statements. In particular, Cheney is addressing whether or not Iran has an active nuclear weaponization program as opposed to a nuclear program that involves enrichment of uranium for use in energy production.  Obviously, we should be concerned with enrichment since it can be used for both peaceful energy development or weaponization.  Iran has made threatening statements against Israel.  We ought to be concerned.  However, Cheney attempts to distort and mislead the public into believing that Iran has an active program to develop a nuclear weapon.  That is a significantly different statement.  However, those with little moral compunction or values, like gigi, will obviously lie.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4355532', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: DieNowForPeace</title>
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		<dc:creator>DieNowForPeace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;good_golly Says: &lt;/em&gt;

Don&#039;t forget to buy stock in Kimberly_Clark.

This troll&#039;s gotta be going through a whole pack of Depends everyday...</description>
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<p>Don&#8217;t forget to buy stock in Kimberly_Clark.</p>
<p>This troll&#8217;s gotta be going through a whole pack of Depends everyday&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4355500', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I betcha that if Iran agreed to buy their nuclear fuel from, oh I don&#039;t know, GE maybe?, that a lot of this posturing would go away.

&quot;Companies are racing to provide radioactive fuel for America&#039;s nuclear renaissance, and are powering debate along the way.

Even as the government continues to oppose Iran&#039;s efforts to enrich uranium for power plants, projects to do just that are under way in this country. General Electric Co. and USEC Inc., along with European rivals Urenco Ltd. and Areva Inc., are pushing billions worth of new U.S. enrichment plants or technology so they don&#039;t miss the new uranium boom.&quot;

http://www.jacksonholestartrib.com/articles/2008/02/29/news/regional/991c5d28515bb257872573fb006c34eb.txt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I betcha that if Iran agreed to buy their nuclear fuel from, oh I don&#8217;t know, GE maybe?, that a lot of this posturing would go away.</p>
<p>&#8220;Companies are racing to provide radioactive fuel for America&#8217;s nuclear renaissance, and are powering debate along the way.</p>
<p>Even as the government continues to oppose Iran&#8217;s efforts to enrich uranium for power plants, projects to do just that are under way in this country. General Electric Co. and USEC Inc., along with European rivals Urenco Ltd. and Areva Inc., are pushing billions worth of new U.S. enrichment plants or technology so they don&#8217;t miss the new uranium boom.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jacksonholestartrib.com/articles/2008/02/29/news/regional/991c5d28515bb257872573fb006c34eb.txt" rel="nofollow">http://www.jacksonholestartrib.com/articles/2008/02/29/news/regional/991c5d28515bb257872573fb006c34eb.txt</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4355136', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: calibleu</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/19/cheney-distorts-iran-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-4354894</link>
		<dc:creator>calibleu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;shoeless Says: 
March 19th, 2008 at 3:44 pm

I have long believed the exposure of Plame and her covert operation was more than just punishment against Joe Wilson. I think the Bush administration long ago had information that Iran had stopped it’s nuclear program, and they acted to destroy Brewster Jennings before it’s operatives could provide evidence to that fact.&lt;/em&gt;

I agree.  Now that Admiral Fallon has resigned, Cheney and the rest of the &quot;Bomb Iran&quot; crowd are going to try and get us into another fiasco.  My fear is that they will succeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>shoeless Says:<br />
March 19th, 2008 at 3:44 pm</p>
<p>I have long believed the exposure of Plame and her covert operation was more than just punishment against Joe Wilson. I think the Bush administration long ago had information that Iran had stopped it’s nuclear program, and they acted to destroy Brewster Jennings before it’s operatives could provide evidence to that fact.</em></p>
<p>I agree.  Now that Admiral Fallon has resigned, Cheney and the rest of the &#8220;Bomb Iran&#8221; crowd are going to try and get us into another fiasco.  My fear is that they will succeed.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4354894', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Vanthomas</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/19/cheney-distorts-iran-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-4354886</link>
		<dc:creator>Vanthomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we FINALLY call this whore an enemy of the United States?
F%cking shoot that piece of crap.....with a glance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we FINALLY call this whore an enemy of the United States?<br />
F%cking shoot that piece of crap&#8230;..with a glance.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4354886', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: raynman</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was during an interview, right?

Did the interviewer just give him a pass when he outright lied??

What the heck happened to our media?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was during an interview, right?</p>
<p>Did the interviewer just give him a pass when he outright lied??</p>
<p>What the heck happened to our media?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4354870', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: liberal traitor</title>
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		<dc:creator>liberal traitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
calibleu Says:
March 19th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
Well we would know what Iran was doing execpt you outed Valerie Plame.

Thereby putting her covert operation, known publicly as Brewster Jennings, out of operation. As you correctly indicate, this act of treason by the Bush administration effectively shut off intelligence about Iran’s nuclear activities. 

I have long believed the exposure of Plame and her covert operation was more than just punishment against Joe Wilson. &lt;strong&gt;I think the Bush administration long ago had information that Iran had stopped it’s nuclear program&lt;/strong&gt;, and they acted to destroy Brewster Jennings before it’s operatives could provide evidence to that fact.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Of course they had that info long ago, the NIE says that Iran stopped it&#039;s weapons program in 2003...are you telling me that it takes our intelligence community nigh on 5 FREAKING YEARS to know whether or not our supposed enemies are still making weapons or have stopped?  If that is true, then every war we&#039;ve ever won was by virtue of LUCK.</description>
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calibleu Says:<br />
March 19th, 2008 at 3:21 pm<br />
Well we would know what Iran was doing execpt you outed Valerie Plame.</p>
<p>Thereby putting her covert operation, known publicly as Brewster Jennings, out of operation. As you correctly indicate, this act of treason by the Bush administration effectively shut off intelligence about Iran’s nuclear activities. </p>
<p>I have long believed the exposure of Plame and her covert operation was more than just punishment against Joe Wilson. <strong>I think the Bush administration long ago had information that Iran had stopped it’s nuclear program</strong>, and they acted to destroy Brewster Jennings before it’s operatives could provide evidence to that fact.
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<p>Of course they had that info long ago, the NIE says that Iran stopped it&#8217;s weapons program in 2003&#8230;are you telling me that it takes our intelligence community nigh on 5 FREAKING YEARS to know whether or not our supposed enemies are still making weapons or have stopped?  If that is true, then every war we&#8217;ve ever won was by virtue of LUCK.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4354808', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: liberal traitor</title>
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		<dc:creator>liberal traitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Unfortunately, the historical record does not bear this out. Since the end of World War Two, the U.S. has supported dozens of murderous dictators both financially and militarily: for example, Joseph Mobutu of Zaire, Augusto Pinochet of Chili, Suharto of Indonesia, Saddam Hussein of Iraq, the shah of Iran, Anastasio Somoza of Nicaragua, Fulgencio Batista of Cuba, and dictatorships in Greece, Portugal, Pakistan, Egypt, and many other countries. In 1954 the CIA sabotaged the elected government in Guatemala. The U.S. invaded Panama in 1989, killing 3,000 to 4,000 civilians. It trained and supported death squads in El Salvador. It supported the Taliban, brought the Ba’ath Party to power in Iraq, and sold material for chemical weapons to the regime of Saddam Hussein.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Great list man, too many people forget this crap when talking about anything going on in the world these days.  This list fits nicely with my response to any reich-wing idiots who say &quot;The WMDs were THERE!!  They just moved them to Syria and Iran!!!&quot; (because of course all muslims stick together, even if shia and sunni hate each other, and Iranians aren&#039;t ARABS, they are PERSIANS): &quot;Any WMDs we find in Iraq or that we find elsewhere that used to be in Iraq will have a receipt attached with Don Rumsfelds signature on it.&quot;</description>
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Unfortunately, the historical record does not bear this out. Since the end of World War Two, the U.S. has supported dozens of murderous dictators both financially and militarily: for example, Joseph Mobutu of Zaire, Augusto Pinochet of Chili, Suharto of Indonesia, Saddam Hussein of Iraq, the shah of Iran, Anastasio Somoza of Nicaragua, Fulgencio Batista of Cuba, and dictatorships in Greece, Portugal, Pakistan, Egypt, and many other countries. In 1954 the CIA sabotaged the elected government in Guatemala. The U.S. invaded Panama in 1989, killing 3,000 to 4,000 civilians. It trained and supported death squads in El Salvador. It supported the Taliban, brought the Ba’ath Party to power in Iraq, and sold material for chemical weapons to the regime of Saddam Hussein.
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<p>Great list man, too many people forget this crap when talking about anything going on in the world these days.  This list fits nicely with my response to any reich-wing idiots who say &#8220;The WMDs were THERE!!  They just moved them to Syria and Iran!!!&#8221; (because of course all muslims stick together, even if shia and sunni hate each other, and Iranians aren&#8217;t ARABS, they are PERSIANS): &#8220;Any WMDs we find in Iraq or that we find elsewhere that used to be in Iraq will have a receipt attached with Don Rumsfelds signature on it.&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4354782', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bilbo Hussein Baggins</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/19/cheney-distorts-iran-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-4354774</link>
		<dc:creator>Bilbo Hussein Baggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Gigi must be from the Bizarro universe. It seem that every link it posts disproves it’s point. Though I suppose it could be congenital stupidity compounded by faulty education.&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;m not sure this one even has a &quot;point&quot;.  I see it as this little robot that goes to the RNC talking point site and cuts and pastes whatever is the current talking point listed there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Gigi must be from the Bizarro universe. It seem that every link it posts disproves it’s point. Though I suppose it could be congenital stupidity compounded by faulty education.</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure this one even has a &#8220;point&#8221;.  I see it as this little robot that goes to the RNC talking point site and cuts and pastes whatever is the current talking point listed there.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4354774', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: shoeless</title>
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		<dc:creator>shoeless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;calibleu Says: 
March 19th, 2008 at 3:21 pm 
Well we would know what Iran was doing execpt you outed Valerie Plame.&lt;/em&gt;

Thereby putting her covert operation, known publicly as Brewster Jennings, out of operation.  As you correctly indicate, this act of treason by the Bush administration effectively shut off intelligence about Iran&#039;s nuclear activities.  

I have long believed the exposure of Plame and her covert operation was more than just punishment against Joe Wilson.  I think the Bush administration long ago had information that Iran had stopped it&#039;s nuclear program, and they acted to destroy Brewster Jennings before it&#039;s operatives could provide evidence to that fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>calibleu Says:<br />
March 19th, 2008 at 3:21 pm<br />
Well we would know what Iran was doing execpt you outed Valerie Plame.</em></p>
<p>Thereby putting her covert operation, known publicly as Brewster Jennings, out of operation.  As you correctly indicate, this act of treason by the Bush administration effectively shut off intelligence about Iran&#8217;s nuclear activities.  </p>
<p>I have long believed the exposure of Plame and her covert operation was more than just punishment against Joe Wilson.  I think the Bush administration long ago had information that Iran had stopped it&#8217;s nuclear program, and they acted to destroy Brewster Jennings before it&#8217;s operatives could provide evidence to that fact.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4354766', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tobie Tall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tobie Tall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Iranian regime has never invaded another country, initiated a war, or tried to impose its rule by military means on other nations. It is equally false to claim, as President Bush has done, that Iran &quot;is the world&#039;s leading state sponsor of terrorism.&quot; Iran has always opposed al-Qaeda, it does not sponsor terrorist acts in Western countries, and it has never supported the Taliban, even though Bush has claimed that it does. Iran does support Hezbollah and Hamas, but these are groups that fight against what they believe to be the repressive policies of Israel. 

AS WHERE AMERICA

Unfortunately, the historical record does not bear this out. Since the end of World War Two, the U.S. has supported dozens of murderous dictators both financially and militarily: for example, Joseph Mobutu of Zaire, Augusto Pinochet of Chili, Suharto of Indonesia, Saddam Hussein of Iraq, the shah of Iran, Anastasio Somoza of Nicaragua, Fulgencio Batista of Cuba, and dictatorships in Greece, Portugal, Pakistan, Egypt, and many other countries. In 1954 the CIA sabotaged the elected government in Guatemala. The U.S. invaded Panama in 1989, killing 3,000 to 4,000 civilians. It trained and supported death squads in El Salvador. It supported the Taliban, brought the Ba&#039;ath Party to power in Iraq, and sold material for chemical weapons to the regime of Saddam Hussein.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Iranian regime has never invaded another country, initiated a war, or tried to impose its rule by military means on other nations. It is equally false to claim, as President Bush has done, that Iran &#8220;is the world&#8217;s leading state sponsor of terrorism.&#8221; Iran has always opposed al-Qaeda, it does not sponsor terrorist acts in Western countries, and it has never supported the Taliban, even though Bush has claimed that it does. Iran does support Hezbollah and Hamas, but these are groups that fight against what they believe to be the repressive policies of Israel. </p>
<p>AS WHERE AMERICA</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the historical record does not bear this out. Since the end of World War Two, the U.S. has supported dozens of murderous dictators both financially and militarily: for example, Joseph Mobutu of Zaire, Augusto Pinochet of Chili, Suharto of Indonesia, Saddam Hussein of Iraq, the shah of Iran, Anastasio Somoza of Nicaragua, Fulgencio Batista of Cuba, and dictatorships in Greece, Portugal, Pakistan, Egypt, and many other countries. In 1954 the CIA sabotaged the elected government in Guatemala. The U.S. invaded Panama in 1989, killing 3,000 to 4,000 civilians. It trained and supported death squads in El Salvador. It supported the Taliban, brought the Ba&#8217;ath Party to power in Iraq, and sold material for chemical weapons to the regime of Saddam Hussein.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4354748', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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