Cheney On Two-Thirds Of The American Public Opposing The Iraq War: ‘So?’
Cheney On Two-Thirds Of The American Public Opposing The Iraq War: ‘So?’
This morning, on the fifth anniversary of the Iraq invasion, ABC’s Good Morning America aired an interview with Vice President Cheney on the war. During the segment, Cheney flatly told White House correspondent Martha Raddatz that he doesn’t care about the American public’s views on the war:
CHENEY: On the security front, I think there’s a general consensus that we’ve made major progress, that the surge has worked. That’s been a major success.
RADDATZ: Two-third of Americans say it’s not worth fighting.
CHENEY: So?
RADDATZ So? You don’t care what the American people think?
CHENEY: No. I think you cannot be blown off course by the fluctuations in the public opinion polls.
Watch it:
This opposition to the war is not a “fluctuation” in public opinion. The American public has steadily turned against the war since the 2003 invasion. According to a new CNN poll, just 36 percent of the American public believes that “the situation in Iraq was worth going to war over — down from 68 percent in March 2003, when the war began.”
Even though he doesn’t care what the American public wants, Cheney still thinks he is able — and entitled — to speak for the American public. Last month, Cheney declared, “The American people will not support a policy of retreat.” If Cheney were actually listening to the “American people,” he would know that 61 percent actually supports the redeployment of U.S. troops.
Sort Comments By: Top Rated | Date
Grounds for Impeachment.
March 19th, 2008 at 10:17 amFIRE THIS SON-OF-A-BlTCH NOW!!!!
March 19th, 2008 at 10:18 am“fluctuate” this Cheney
March 19th, 2008 at 10:18 amI wonder if Pelosi will listen now.
March 19th, 2008 at 10:19 amHmmm… from that little display of what Cheney really thinks of democracy… I can see how what we’re doing in Iraq is a success to him.
March 19th, 2008 at 10:19 amI need to stop reading this site - sometimes I just can’t stand it.
March 19th, 2008 at 10:20 amThis man has no conscience or soul. IMPEACH NOW!!!
March 19th, 2008 at 10:20 amJeannie See Says:
March 19th, 2008 at 10:19 am
I wonder if Pelosi will listen now.
No, she hasn’t been listening - I think she’s one of them in disguise.
March 19th, 2008 at 10:20 amWow. This means that one third of the American public is completely delusional.
March 19th, 2008 at 10:22 amgood_golly Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
There have undoubtedly been phenomelal improvements, but there is obviously still work to be done.
(says it all, doesn’t it?)
March 19th, 2008 at 10:23 amRADDATZ: Two-third of Americans say it’s not worth fighting.
CHENEY: So?
RADDATZ So? You don’t care what the American people think?
CHENEY: No. I think two-third of Americans can blow me.
March 19th, 2008 at 10:24 amDid Martha press Cheney on how long the poll numbers have been going down, and how far down the numbers are?
The whole thrust of this administration is to bancrupt the country to make it easier to control the population by forcing us to work at whatever wages the economic elites decide to pay us. It also makes it easier for that exalted economic class to take over whatever businesses are desired and to close down any competition.
cheney says what his cronies want him to say and the SCLM eat it up by the bowl full. Our Dem leadership, not just pelosi and reid, are really enablers unwilling to do the job that they were elected to do in 2006 - IMPEACH THEM ALL!!
March 19th, 2008 at 10:27 amI would sure like to see Darth Cheney “blown off course”.
March 19th, 2008 at 10:27 amMy immediate response to this article was “Fluctuate? FLUCTUATE? Go fluctuate yourself, Cheney.”
Then I saw how Shoeless had stripped away the pretense of Cheney’s verbiage and revealed the truth of his philosophy.
Brilliant, Shoeless. Just frickin’ brilliant.
March 19th, 2008 at 10:27 amWe the People……..
Bush, Cheney and the rest of this administration has failed us.
March 19th, 2008 at 10:28 amwhat a dick!…lol?
March 19th, 2008 at 10:28 amTaxation without representation!
Let them eat cake, huh?
We don’t even need high crimes. FIRE them for not doing what they (objectively) swore to do. They are stealing their salary.
This is also ridiculous… fluctuation? The only fluctuation is Bush’s rating down to 19% and the economic confidence right behind, with the dollar. America has been anti-war for at least three years, probably four despite the STOLEN election via vote exclusion.
March 19th, 2008 at 10:29 amThat’s what you get with an appointed president and VP.
Antoinette -style hubris.
March 19th, 2008 at 10:31 amWhat monumental arrogance. Those two letters sum up everything that is wrong with this administration, mostly due to his influence in the realm of abuse of executive power. That is Cheney’s view of the “Unitary Executive”— one who rules and doesn’t pay any heed to public opinion or to other branches of government. What a monumental a-hole!
March 19th, 2008 at 10:32 amjoe cantwell Says:
March 19th, 2008 at 10:23 am
good_golly Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
There have undoubtedly been phenomelal improvements, but there is obviously still work to be done.
(says it all, doesn’t it?)
Yeah , about Goof_Jelly’s mental disorder(s) ; not a damn thing about what’s actually happening in Iraq , though……….
March 19th, 2008 at 10:32 amThe picture of Cheney above reminds me of Edgar Allen Poe’s “Telltale Heart”. His right eye is pure evil.
March 19th, 2008 at 10:33 amCheney and his ilk will never admit to making a mistake in Iraq. Their only purpose is to leave the war to the next president and get out of town. This should not be surprising. Nor should the disregard for the will of the people.
We should be more worried by the fact that a substantial number of people will vote for the Republican candidate because they still believe that the Republicans will do a better job on terrorism. The mindless droning by Cheney and others projects an image of strength. The Democrats must learn the art of ridicule in order to expose the stupidity of their positions. MSM will not even challenge it. The public discourse will be improved only when the Democrats learn to respond to the Republican take on these issues with derision.
March 19th, 2008 at 10:34 amI love how 2002 and 2004 (and all that snark) were “mandates” supporting neocons, but 2006 was an aberration and two years of 67% “get us out” mean nothing.
Ongoing war, no clear victory… they make more money with American boots on Iraqi soil spending and getting tax money, before 2003 it was less of a market. So why stop the occupation?
March 19th, 2008 at 10:34 amappropos:
Daily Star (Lebanon)
In an editorial on the tour of the Middle East by the United States vice-president, Dick Cheney, the paper says that it would carry a lot more credibility if he had not played such an instrumental role in fomenting the multiple crises that he now seeks to resolve.
Cheney’s regional tour: returns to the scenes of the crimes
By The Daily Star
Wednesday, March 19, 2008
Editorial
US Vice President Dick Cheney’s regional tour would carry a lot more credibility if he had not played such an instrumental role in fomenting the multiple crises that he now seeks to resolve. The Bush administration whose policies he has done so much to define has been a disaster for the Middle East, and short of a lengthy apology, nothing he does now will do much good. The best the region can hope for, in fact, is that Cheney and his colleagues do not insist on imposing yet another war on the peoples of this part of the world.
[…]
http://dailystar.com.lb/ article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=17&article_id=90033
via:http://www.cfr.org/publication/15752/
March 19th, 2008 at 10:34 amWow… now that’s truly awe inspiring arrogance!
March 19th, 2008 at 10:35 amAfter the election, let’s have McCain, Bush & Cheney be sentenced to a Freidman in Iraq.
No guards. No Blackwater. No gunships overhead. Just them & the
Iraqi people.
We’ll see then how great or success is…
March 19th, 2008 at 10:36 amAnd who do you think you work for you fat arrogant slime ball? I say impeachment is not harsh enough.
March 19th, 2008 at 10:38 amThanks for making it clear to two-thirds of Americans, Dick. When your heart physically gives out, Lynne Cheney, the future widow, will be left complaining about the same 2/3 of Americans who will boastfully approve of your death.
You bottomfeeding, ugly, yellow scum. You have plaque stuck on your teeth and in your heart. Your mind gave out years ago, you bone-chewing vermin trash.
May this rotten garbage go down as the worst VP in history. Bush is not President here, he’s too stupid to be even a bad one, he’s simply the spokesidiot of Dick — and the bed bugs at the AEI.
March 19th, 2008 at 10:39 amI believe in karma.
I believe in karma.
I believe in karma.
There, Cheney shall be insignificant and powerless as he would pretend two thirds of America is.
March 19th, 2008 at 10:42 amSo speaks the greatest traitor to the American people this nation has ever suffered.
I guess this is one of the single syllable words he was lauded for in Baghdad the other day.
Amen, McWars.
March 19th, 2008 at 10:43 amDick Cheney has no business whatsoever in a representative, republican democracy like we have. He is better suited to an authoritarian dictatorship or a fascist plutocracy where elites like himself make the decisions without listening to the pesky peasants who live far away from the decadent bubble inhabited by the rich and powerful.
Worst. Vice President. Ever.
March 19th, 2008 at 10:47 amfluc·tu·ate (flkch-t)
v. fluc·tu·at·ed, fluc·tu·at·ing, fluc·tu·ates
v.intr.
1. To vary irregularly. See Synonyms at swing.
2. To rise and fall in or as if in waves; undulate.
v.tr.
To cause to rise and fall or vary irregularly.
CBS News Poll. March 15-17, 2008. N=844 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.
“Do you think the result of the war with Iraq was worth the loss of American life and other costs of attacking Iraq, or not?”
Worth It Not Worth It Unsure
% % %
3/15-17/08
29 /64 /7
3/9-12/06
25 /70 /5
2/22-26/06
29 /63 /8
10/30 - 11/1/05
31 /64 /5
8/26-28/03
46 /46 /8
08/11-12/03
46 /45 /9
Lying sack of shit.
March 19th, 2008 at 10:47 amGo to he11.
March 19th, 2008 at 10:48 amArrogant S.o.b. should have his steel heart rust inside his chest, and die in agony.
RADDATZ So? You don’t care what the American people think?
CHENEY: No. I think you cannot be blown off course by the fluctuations in the public opinion polls.
Oh really , Dick ?
Remember that little tussle , oh say about 40 years ago , that you managed to avoid on 5 different occasions ; wasn’t that insanity halted by public opinion you ignorant jackass ?
March 19th, 2008 at 10:50 amThe Bush Admin. in a nutshell :
Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
Supremacy of the Military
Rampant Sexism
Controlled Mass Media
Obsession with National Security
Religion and Government are Intertwined
Corporate Power is Protected
Labor Power is Suppressed
Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
Fraudulent Elections
March 19th, 2008 at 10:58 amGo Cheney, yourself!
March 19th, 2008 at 11:02 amAaah yes!! the mind of a sociopathic amoral corporate executive with a chimpy sock puppet.
March 19th, 2008 at 11:03 amThank you for that glimpse into your soul Mr. Cheney.
He knows that no one is do anything about him.
He is a thug and this is how these people operate.
The fact that the American people are not outraged and rioting for his head on a post is beyond comprehension.
CHENEY: No. I think two-third of Americans can blow me.
How about “No, I think two-thirds of Americans can go fu(k themselves”. That’s pretty much the attitude of the entire Bush Crime Family.
March 19th, 2008 at 11:03 amIf Cheney’s wet dream is to start a new war with Iran and continue this Iraq debacle ad infinitum I would like to share my wet dream. That while over in the ME some patriotic American soldier suffering from PTSD frags this MFer right in his smug face. This traitorous VP has singlehandedly looted our Treasury, trashed our Constitution, destroyed our standing on the World stage, caused our recession, hobbled the chance of any ecological progress for eight years, spied on his foes and the Nation since February 2001, obstructed justice at every turn, destroyed criminal evidence and bold facedly strutts around insisting it was all the right thing to do and to Hell with what Americans want and so poorly need. If there is any justice he and his imp Addington will both suffer horribly painful, slow deaths in prison. Serious steps need to be taken so that America never has to suffer like this again at the hands of some war profiteering criminal tyrant.
March 19th, 2008 at 11:05 amAnd right after the interview, Martha Raddatz had to call in a Hazmat team and be cleaned thouroughly for being that close to EVIL INCARNATE.
March 19th, 2008 at 11:06 amWords can’t describe.
March 19th, 2008 at 11:11 amContinually working against public opinion should be grounds for firing asap. It shouldn’t take an act of the universe.
With any luck, his borrowed yacht will hit a floating explosive device while he’s fishing and send him to where he belongs.
It’s hard for me to understand how these people don’t get it that they are elected to protect the constitution and represent the people of this country. They were not elected to advance the cause of the Republican party and to enrich their friends.
March 19th, 2008 at 11:17 amOld Cheney is working for us. How dare him. He needs to be impeach now.
March 19th, 2008 at 11:18 amOf course Cheney is right! What do you think this is, a “government of the people, for the people”?
/sarcasm off
March 19th, 2008 at 11:22 amNews announcement of the not-too-distant future:
Dick Cheney has died of a heart attack!!
REAL Americans and the WORLD:
SO?
Thank God!!
March 19th, 2008 at 11:24 amOf course Cheney doesn’t care what Americans think because he hates his Country. That’s obvious.
March 19th, 2008 at 11:26 amPoor g_g seems to be suffering from BFS* too…
All the troll can do anymore is cut and paste its own days old comments.
Talk about a bitter, broken troll…
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA…
*Bush Fatigue Syndrome
March 19th, 2008 at 11:27 amLet A = America majority opinion: The war isn’t worth it”
Let B = Bush: “The war is worth it”.
Let C = Cheney: “The War IS worth it”
Let P = Pollack: “Despite mistakes….the war may be worth it”
Let Pi = The rest of the Press.
Pi x (B+C+P)- A = n
What is n?
a) n = negative A
March 19th, 2008 at 11:28 amb) n is >30 years
c) n is > $1 trillion
d) n is Jane gets 3/5ths of a tainted apple, Jimmy has no legs and Dick’s personal worth is >$300 million.
e) All of the above
I can’t imagine how much security this phuckwad needs on these trips to spew mindless drivel.
This guy needs a drool cup & a psych evaluation, pronto.
March 19th, 2008 at 11:29 amIf there is one person worse than bush it is cheney…what a hollow humanbeing. When Enron turned off California’s power and charged astronomical rates..cheney cared less. He ignores public opinion, the public he takes a salary from.
March 19th, 2008 at 11:33 amI picture Bush and Cheney in hell with their MASTER Satan, and he is SMASHING THEIR FACES IN EVERY SECOND FOR ETERNITY.
WHAM! SPLAT!
WHAM! SPLAT!
WHAM! SPLAT!
WHAM! SPLAT!
WHAM! SPLAT!
WHAM! SPLAT!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
ETERNAL FUN for their MASTER Satan. And TRAITOR Ronnie Reagan, already DEAD and BURNING!
March 19th, 2008 at 11:35 amralph the wonder llama Says:
My immediate response to this article was “Fluctuate? FLUCTUATE? Go fluctuate yourself, Cheney.”
CHENEY: On the security front, I think there’s a general consensus that we’ve made major progress, that the surge has worked. That’s been a major success.
RADDATZ: Two-third of Americans say it’s not worth fighting.
CHENEY: So?
RADDATZ So? You don’t care what the American people think?
CHENEY: No. I think two-third of Americans can go fluctuate themselves.
March 19th, 2008 at 11:35 am“… to come within the next few weeks.”
Geez, talk about reading tea leaves… g_g is really stretching the wording.
Me t’inks g_g is ASSUMING waaaaay tooooo much there.
March 19th, 2008 at 11:35 amGG - try getting some info from other than your standard pap..read what real soldiers on the ground say. Things are NOT better they are using payoffs to militant leaders to even keep a little quiet. Or better yet, listen to what Petraeus is saying…IT IS NOT PROGRESSING. Tune in to programs with real Iraqi citizens opinion, how they enjoy total poverty.
March 19th, 2008 at 11:36 amMarie at 10:48 am
Go to he11.
Arrogant S.o.b. should have his steel heart rust inside his chest, and die in agony.
heard on maddow:
The maker of a common medical device issue a press release that sounds like a terrible pick up line heard at a tech convention. WARNING: Your heart may be hacked.
http://blog.wired.com/ 27bstroke6/ 2008/ 03/ wifi-pacemaker.html
bwaaa ha ha ha ha…
March 19th, 2008 at 11:36 amAfter 5 wasted years, millions of lives, and billions of dollars, you look like a complete f**king a**hole every time you attempt to justify staying any longer.
March 19th, 2008 at 11:37 amCHENEY: No. I think two-third of Americans can go fluctuate themselves.
________
Now now now… the Dickster’s got a valid point here. The world is allus in flux.
Sometimes the world flux down.
And sometime the world flux up.
March 19th, 2008 at 11:38 ammay he suffer a sloooowwwwwww and PAINFUL death.
March 19th, 2008 at 11:38 ami will be the first to sh!t on the bastards grave!
#52:
That just may be enough time to get 18 of the 18 provinces under control of Iraqi security forces
-or- This will give more time to ignore the tanking economy and solidify a Depression worse than 1929, This will give more time for another natural disaster (Katrina)so that our resources (National Guard) are “outsourced” to Iraq/Iran, This will give Private paramilitary contractors to continue to rake in Billions in prfits, This will ensure that Bechtel, Haliburton (i.e.) to continue to rake in Billions of profits.
Go, Cheney yourself!
March 19th, 2008 at 11:39 amGG you dumb cnt. The point is that when Cheney is asked “So? You don’t care what the American people think?” his answer is “No”.
Please smear your sycophant smag somewhere else.
March 19th, 2008 at 11:39 amSo, when the soldiers on the ground are saying things are just as bad and the Iraqi government officials and families don’t leave the Green Zone…they are just misinformed. Everyone is wrong except cheney and bush….ok.
March 19th, 2008 at 11:43 amAnd it’s been said that Rev. Write is “unamerican”… What could possibly be more unamerican than simply dismissing the will of the people. Certainly I’m not going to defend the argument that “the majority is always right”, but to so casually and callously dismiss 2/3 of of the country is just plain counter to the whole concept of democracy, civil discourse, and representative government. To simply argue something along the lines of “those 2/3 must be wrong, because otherwise I’D be wrong, and we can’t let that happen” is a sure sign of a delusional, authoritarian, unamerican dictator.
Zathusseinrus
March 19th, 2008 at 11:43 amOMG> That arrogant, evil old bastard.
Satan, please come and collect your faithful old servant - he needs to come home to you.
March 19th, 2008 at 11:44 amLividLib, Bush and Cheney’s graves are gonna have some of the thickest, greenest grass ever seen on them…
And you’ll have to take a number and wait in such a long time to get yer chance.
March 19th, 2008 at 11:45 am#36, excellent job on the 14 points of FACISM, don`t forget the “NOBLE LIE”. Arogance is what got us in this “messopatamia” in the first place.
March 19th, 2008 at 11:45 amUnfortunately bush would just replace cheney with another cheney…they are rampant in his small circle of loyal bush allies. Wolfowitz, Pearle, Feith, Snow…the list of Cheneys goes on and on. Heartless, selfish, arrogant asses. Find a Republican and you find an empty,selfish person.
March 19th, 2008 at 11:47 am#68
Thank you.
March 19th, 2008 at 11:47 amOf course, the “big lie” was 9/11. Didn’t Hilter say something about a “big lie” : the bigger the lie, the more people wouldn’t think to challenge it.
Pardon me if this has been said previously….
SHUT THE F_CK UP, YOU F_CKING F_CK!
March 19th, 2008 at 11:48 amThose who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. ~ Voltaire
March 19th, 2008 at 11:52 amSo?
March 19th, 2008 at 11:54 amSorry - forgot the link:
http://www.democracynow.org/ 2008/ 3/ 19/ half_a_decade_of_war_five
March 19th, 2008 at 11:55 am#70: As far as the big lie goes, it was Goebbels who said,
‘If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
March 19th, 2008 at 11:55 amTHE HIGH PRICE OF INCOMPETENCE
I don’t believe that the Bush adminstration’s Iraq invasion and occupation fiasco was initially planned and executed by “evil” men and women. But I do believe it was the most incompetently and disastrously planned and executed military and foreign policy blunder in the history of the United States of America. The “evil” was in the arrogance, stupidity and failures of judgment that resulted from what happened in Iraq that the Bush administration was far too incompetent to foresee and then far too dishonest to admit for fear of political consequences. The “evil” was in the outright lying, purposeful distortions and deliberate denials for the purpose of covering up the unconsiconable amount of Iraqi death and destruction that resulted from the Bush administration’s multiple serial failures of judgment and planning. The “evil” was perpetuating death and destruction to save political face. The “evil” was in deceiving and now forcing the American taxpayers to waste trilions of their hard earned dollars, that could have been invested in America, for a failed war that has absolutely no military, political, moral, social or economic benefit to the United States of America. The lies and cover-ups are continuing five years later, and there is no doubt whatsoever that the men and women who are still planning and executing them are representations of “evil” incarnate. Their “incompetence” grew into “evil” because they valued their political lives over the mortal lives of 4000 patriotic American solidiers, hundreds of thousands of helpless and innocent Iraqi civilians and hundreds of billions, if not trillions, of taxpayer dollars that could have been used to improve the quality of the lives of American men, women and children. At this point, there are no explanations or excuses that can hide the “evil” that the men and women of the Bush administration are forcing down the throats of decent and conscientious American citizens. They are past the point of redemption. They have become “evil” itself.
March 19th, 2008 at 11:56 amLeaders also protect their citizens and country, they do not bankrupt, lie and ruin the country they receive their salaries from. Americans gave permission to enter Afganistan NOT Iraq. AND for years the majority wanted troops home.
March 19th, 2008 at 11:57 amHow do you spell a**hole?
C-H-E-N-E-Y
March 19th, 2008 at 11:59 amGG needs to go visit Iraq and watch so many innocents try to work but end up watching their child die. Lets see your compassion for Cheney then.
March 19th, 2008 at 11:59 amWhat a Dick
March 19th, 2008 at 12:00 pmIt is shameful that this War Criminal has not been taken out of office and put on trial for his WAR CRIMES. It is just as shameful that part of our population supports this kind of War Criminal.
GoneGoofy is proof of the rampant stupidity that has consumed that part of the country, hate radio has brainwashed the simple into believing anything that they spew on the airwaves.
March 19th, 2008 at 12:01 pmI think that man-sized safe in Cheney’s office is actually some knid of “bat pole” thingy like in the old t.v. series. Only thing is this one leads straight to Hell. When the shit hits the fan around the WH and he goes to his undisclosed location just where do you think he’s going? Also, how do you think that fire got started in his office? Maybe a little backdraft from the depths. Rumour has it that the door is triggered by some kind of retinal scanner that digitally reads the level of pure evil in your eye. Cheney’s levels are so high, he is the only one evil enough to trigger it. Rove managed to get in a few times and Cheney had him “gimpped” ala “Pulp Fiction” by Jeff Gannon. When he realized that Karl enjoyed it a little too much, he was told that if Dick ever catches him in Hell again before his time, he can just forget about Ice Cream Fridays.
March 19th, 2008 at 12:03 pmgood_golly Says:
March 19th, 2008 at 11:53 am
nanlichi Says:
March 19th, 2008 at 11:39 am
Leaders lead.
_____________
They also follow the law. They don’t blow off subpoena after subpoena simply because they’re afraid their illegal behavior will be outted.
_____________
They don’t blindly follow public opinion polls, especially public opinion polls as materially misrepresented by ThinkProgress.
_____________
There’s a difference between a “poll” and the will of the people, ding_dong.
And I guess those polls back in 2002 that showed Botch getting a plus 80% approval ratings after 9/11, huh?
March 19th, 2008 at 12:06 pmWere meaningless…. those 80% plus polls were meaningless.
March 19th, 2008 at 12:07 pmIf you look at the actual poll cited above, it does not say that 61 percent support the immediate redeployment of U.S. troops. It says that 61 percent support redeployment within a few months after the next POTUS takes office.
Since the answer says that 61% support redeployment after the new President takes office, one would assume that is how the question was worded. These questions are quite specific. They don’t ask “When do you think troops should be deployed”, the ask something like “Do you support having the new President redeploy the troops after he/she takes office?”
If anyone takes a look at the recent polls on Iraq, all say that a large majority thinks it was not worth what it has cost in lives and money, a large majority thinks it is seriously affecting our economy and a large majority wants us to get the hell out of there.
March 19th, 2008 at 12:07 pmFind a Republican and you find an empty, selfish person.
You forgot soulless.
March 19th, 2008 at 12:12 pmso? can be used to answer any question mr cheney ?
1/5th of Americans dont have health care / So
4000 troops have died mr Cheney / So
America is in recession Mr Cheney / So
nowhere else in the world can a politician use / SO
March 19th, 2008 at 12:12 pmRead it very slowly GG, I will post it here again:
RADDATZ: Two-third of Americans say it’s not worth fighting.
CHENEY: So?
RADDATZ So? You don’t care what the American people think?
CHENEY: No. I think you cannot be blown off course by the fluctuations in the public opinion polls.
Cheney unequivocally says that he doesn’t care what the American people think. He rationalizes that arrogant comment by referring to “flucuations”. Cognitive dissonance at its best. A VP of supposedly the most democratic country in the world who rationalizes ignoring 2/3rds of the people he represents?
March 19th, 2008 at 12:15 pmSo?
http://www.democracynow.org/ 2008/ 3/ 18/ winter_soldier_contd_us_vets_active
March 19th, 2008 at 12:22 pmThanks for posting these testimonials, hussein toasterhead. They are heartbreaking.
Cheney would say SO?
March 19th, 2008 at 12:25 pmThe problem is Cheney doesn’t feel he has to answer to the citizens his boss is bush who he controls completely. So, then actually cheney is cheney’s boss. How convenient for a morally corrupt breathing germ.
March 19th, 2008 at 12:25 pmThank God someone is reading about the Winter Soldier, thought it was just a few of us.
March 19th, 2008 at 12:26 pmSo?
http://www.democracynow.org/ 2008/ 3/ 17/ winter_soldier_us_vets_active_duty
March 19th, 2008 at 12:29 pmWhere does the picture above come from? Encyclopedia besides “Malevolent Grin” definition?
March 19th, 2008 at 12:40 pmtexaslady …
So, then actually cheney is cheney’s boss…
My guess, Satan.
March 19th, 2008 at 12:55 pmIn reply to #77..
You wrote a very well thought out response and I’m in agreement with all of your thoughts; however, don’t think for one moment that the architects of this war were not “evil” men. They were. The Cheney’s, Pearl’s and Wolfowitz’ of this world wanted action taken against Iraq while President Clinton was in office. They got their wish and took advantage of the ignorance of the next president and put their plan into motion. If you wanted to get real “evil” we could talk about those who helped the November vote go all the way to the Supreme Court. This entire administration was built on “evil.” Their reasoning was irrational. Their mistakes were deadly. To this day they refuse to admit to mistakes while insisting everything must stay the same. Their fear game is lacking because nobody listens anymore, thank God. And, Cheney thumbs his nose at the American people. He is an arrogant bully.
March 19th, 2008 at 12:55 pm…as I said before: I hope this FACIST pig, Dick Chnney, ends up like his Second World War counterpart, Mussolini. His fat and ugly body hanging up side down and the Italians cuing up to spit on it!
March 19th, 2008 at 2:08 pm…cueing up to spit on it!
March 19th, 2008 at 2:13 pmSo everyone here supported Dennis Kucinich for President?
March 19th, 2008 at 2:52 pmCHENEY: So?
Memo to Congress and Pelosi: Did you hear that? Cheney doesn’t give a rat’s ass on what the American people think. Dick only cares about Dick!
March 19th, 2008 at 6:01 pmDid you know that just before 9-11 cheney was inexplicably put in charge of NORAD? It’s true. The first and only time a civilian was placed in that position. Check it out. And read some of what Jim Marrs has written and spoken about on this subject.
March 19th, 2008 at 6:13 pmThree cheers for Dick for telling it like it is, at least in the attitude of the ruling class towards democracy. The Republicans and the Democrats are two cheeks of the same bottom.
In December, the Pentagon released “good news” from Iraq, a study of focus groups from all over the country that found that Iraqis have “shared beliefs”, so that reconciliation should be possible, contrary to claims of critics of the invasion. The shared beliefs were two. First, the US invasion is the cause of the sectarian violence that has torn Iraq to shreds. Second, the invaders should withdraw and leave Iraq to its people.
A few weeks after the Pentagon report, New York Times military-Iraq expert Michael R. Gordon wrote a reasoned and comprehensive review of the options on Iraq policy facing the candidates for the presidential election. One voice is missing in the debate: Iraqis. Their preference is not rejected. Rather, it is not worthy of mention. And it seems that there is no notice taken of the fact. That makes sense on the usual tacit assumption of almost all discourse on international affairs: We own the world, so what does it matter what others think? They are “unpeople”, to borrow the term used by British diplomatic historian Mark Curtis in his work on Britain’s crimes of empire. Routinely, Americans join Iraqis in unpeoplehood. Their preferences, too, provide no options.
Its a self evident truth that the U.S. is taking on more aspects of fascism. The problem is that right wing parties and power stuctures exist to transfer power and wealth to the privileded elite and as every child knows, rather than saying “i want it and i dont care what you think” they quickly learn to say something like “if i get it that will be good for everyone else because of (this reason or that)”. Therefore in order to promote exploitation of the population as socially or individually beneficial its proponents need to be either immoral liars or nuts and over time this mindset will become structurally embedded. Neo-Conservative doctrine and ideology is simply an intellectual rationalisation for a corrupt social order. The U.S. Started as a paradise on earth for religous zealots and elitists, particularly in the south where a landed gentry attempted to create, and largely succeded, a pure version of the hierarchical english class system with slaves replacing the white lower orders. This immoral social stucture has simply been extended globally.
March 19th, 2008 at 9:10 pmThe end of the U.S. empire is well overdue. Like all empires, such as the British, French, Soviet, Chinese, Indonesian and others it has a malignant and parasitic character. It differs from all others empires in that its global reach far surpasses others and its methods are more advanced and extensive. Real particpative democracy in the U.S. is a fantasy. The U.S. has one political party, The Business party, with two slightly different factions. On almost all significant social issues both the Republicans and the Democrats are well to the right of the overwhelming majority of the population. The current executive office holders are an extreme version of whats gone before and in fact they are helping the world by deliberately bringing forward the financial collapse of the U.S. through their policy of ’slaying the beast’(Government). The U.S. polity is one of narcissism, immorality and individualism and is irredeemable in its current form.
Where is Lee Harvey Oswald now that we need him?
March 20th, 2008 at 5:23 pm“The blood is a very special fluid” Goethe came up with that laconic phrase and he was not saying this as a scientist, but as a poet. And in Genesis: “the voice of thy brother´s blood crieth unto me”
March 22nd, 2008 at 9:27 amThis Mr. Cheney and that Mr. Bush sure have mixed up the concept of “blood” with the concept of “petrol”. And the sad consequence of all this is when millons of people die due to that terrible mistake, and other so many are at the mercy of the indigence, the poverty, the brutalization and grief.
Mr.Cheney…Mr. Bush: do you have blood in your bodies?
So, the real power behind Bush’s presidency chimes in on the anniversary of the war sold to us with a pack of lies and a fear mongering campaign that would make Hitler proud.
March 22nd, 2008 at 2:23 pmUnfortunately Cheney’s response was not carried on many news casts. The outrage against the war would be greater if this reaction to the will of the people were widely known
. I’ve devoted this weeks edition of my weekly political cartoon to this illegal occupation, it’s up on my website now.
http://www.whatnowtoons.com
Regarding post #74:
You cannot tell me that this war was not initially planned and perpetrated by evil men. The billions that Cheney and his company, Halliburton, has made from this invasion does not a coincidence make.
Why the hell, he has gotten away with this crime of greed and murder is waaaaay beyond me.
March 23rd, 2008 at 1:15 pmI agree with Cheney’s “so?”. What, you don’t think 2/3rds of the American public can’t be wrong about something? It happens constantly. Take this topic, for instance. There are 104 messages, and at least 100 of them are idiotic in the extreme. That’s 96% wrong!!!
HA!
March 23rd, 2008 at 5:41 pmI want my country back!!! We the people have the right to form a new government if the current one is not working!!!!
March 23rd, 2008 at 7:39 pm#105 johnsom: there always is a rotten apple in the basket.
March 24th, 2008 at 12:26 amOk! bust it wide open.
March 24th, 2008 at 1:17 amOh my God,…is it possible that somebody like Cheney can say that in an interview? That is an example of an I-D-I-O-T!
March 24th, 2008 at 6:32 amThis is another fine example of what American is fighting for…and dying.
March 24th, 2008 at 6:43 amIt is rather nice to see Himmler himself go against the American public, as his puppet, the American Hitler bush, is busily killing off as many soldiers as he can before he has to leave for the love of oil…….both of these bastards need to not only be impeached, but put before a Tribunal for War Crimes against humanity! It’s too bad that we have so little help from Congress; if they had the cajones, they would’ve put these two asswipes in jail a long time ago for their actions against this country as well as the world.
March 24th, 2008 at 7:03 amUSA: Your government were NOT democratically voted into office. They are criminals who illegally put themselves into office. Al Gore should have been your president.
The American people have been robbed of their taxes…most of which going to fund this illegal war. The defense giant The Carlyl group (Bush senior & junior) are the biggest earners of this war. This war was based on GREED and nothing else.
All those people (American and Iraqi) who have died so that the Bush family can line their pockets. Words cannot describe how disgraceful this is. Those billions of tax dollars, just think what else they could have been spent on.
World opinion on USA has been rock bottom for years now but I think people are starting to see that it is not the average American who’s at fault…it’s you illegal government.
WHEN ARE AMERICANS GOING TO IMPEACH THESE CRIMINALS IN CHARGE OF THEIR COUNTRY?
Jade, England.
March 24th, 2008 at 7:20 amoh and…I think you need to know. Your media doesn’t portray this to you very well, but America IS hated across the world. I have lots of American friends as I used to live in New York for 5 years so this upsets me.
It musn’t be a very plesant experience being an American in a foreign country these days. All this has been acheived by your illegal government.
Dick here has proven how the government don’t take into consideration or even care about the American opinion. I cannot say this strongly enough… IMPEACH Don’t sit back and expect someone else to do it. Start the procedure right now by rallying up your friends and neighbours and begin the chain of events. Once someone starts this most Americans will follow.
IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH
March 24th, 2008 at 7:28 amThe only thing good enough for these MF’s is the Guillotine…Let them eat Terror
No country for old white men!
March 24th, 2008 at 7:28 amSee Micheal Moore’s site for some very pertinet comments to Cheney - “SO?”
March 24th, 2008 at 7:38 amABSOLUTELY SHAMEFUL!!
March 24th, 2008 at 8:00 amWhat’s another name for Richard? DICK
March 24th, 2008 at 8:05 amWhat’s another name for Cranium? HEAD
I strongly believe that this man needs to be held accountable for his actions. For lying. For abusing power. For stealing through his company Haliburton. For manslaughter for killing 4000 US troops. For war crimes for killing a million Iraqis. This man needs to be held accountable as he has held the US public in contempt…
March 24th, 2008 at 8:07 amand above all I hope he rots in hell
The whole executive branch should be in prison by now if america had not become a proto-fascist state in the hands of a military junta.
EXECUTIVE RESUME
March 24th, 2008 at 8:23 amSo? Really? How about you got to the homes of the 4,000 troops we lost and say, “So?” to those families?
March 24th, 2008 at 8:46 amHow did these lying, invading, murdering burglars get into OUR White House !!!
Never, never, never again !!!
March 24th, 2008 at 8:49 amIraq had NOTHING BUT OIL.
The engineers working in Iraq since 1972 TOLD YOU THE TRUTH.
In 1991 Saddam defended his contracts, his pipeline, and his access to the Persian Gulf thru KuWait.
The UN Inspectors, during our 12 years of embargo, TOLD YOU THE TRUTH.
Even Saddam Hussein TOLD YOU THE TRUTH.
Bush senior and Bush junior LIED TO YOU.
March 24th, 2008 at 8:59 amAnd they are still LYING !!!
SLAVERY is when a FEW Plantation Owners CONTROL the actions of a large poplulation of SLAVES.
Welcome to the new America. The deregulated corporate chemical, biological, military empire.
So, What then is Freedom
March 24th, 2008 at 9:08 amAmericans deserve him… you voted for him twice. And even if you are one of those that didn’t vote for him (or his puppet Bush) you still have done nothing to get rid of him. Nothing. So quit your whining and take it like the pacifistic society that you are.
March 24th, 2008 at 9:10 amArrest or remove these WAR CRIMINALS before the NORTH AMERICAN UNION IS SHOVED DOWN OUR THROATS
Many events in this country show the efforts by the Bush Administration to destroy this country. He has set out a niche for himself by continually breaking down the Constitution. By breaking down Habeus Corpus and acts in defense pacts where he makes sole decisions if martial law is implemented perpetrates an administration that may try to stay in office. Back door Bush is behind the backs of those in Congress while he perpetrates destroying America with the North Amercian Union. With the dollar nearly worthless its perfect timing to implement this scheme and change the currency. This war a farce! Many needlessly killed for some other lan of this Administration. A democracy does not exist in America. The legal/judicial system is so covered-up and corrupt, no rights exist for the American people. Most do not know it but i certainly do.
The greatest fear for the American people and America is letting this Administration stay in office until election day. Sadly, I do not doubt an attack will occur to keep this administartion in office and Bush will implement the rest of his strategy in destroying America.
God Bless All of Us!
Cheryl Kennedy
March 24th, 2008 at 9:10 amAnd they say Obama’s pastor is “Un-American?” Give me a break.
March 24th, 2008 at 9:11 amMarch 24th, 2008 at 9:11 am
personally I prefer this version of that video…
March 24th, 2008 at 9:12 am
oops…this is the last time I’ll try to post this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Kv5oi2tA_U
March 24th, 2008 at 9:13 amIMPEACH THEM BOTH,QUICKLY!!! NO TIME TO WASTE ANYMORE, NO LIVES TO WASTE IN VAIN… IMPEACH THEM NOOOOOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 24th, 2008 at 9:22 amWHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE WAITING FOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FOR YEARS AND YEARS I HAVE BEEN SAING PUT THE “BUSH CRIME FAMILY” IN JAIL……….I WAS WRONG HANG THEM BOTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 24th, 2008 at 9:27 amYou can just picture him sitting there wringing his hands maniacally. BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHHA!
Sincerely,
March 24th, 2008 at 9:29 amKrashkopf’s 12 year old daughter
Still Bush’s Brain is the evil Dick Cheney. BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! And one more BUWHAHAHA!!
Sincerely,
March 24th, 2008 at 9:31 amKrashkopf’s Eight Year Old Daughter
The Bush Administration has been anything but perfect, mainly due to a favoring of the ultra rich corporations and individuals. However, the Iraq war was based not only on faulty information but correctly on the known intent of Sadam Hussein to purchase and assemble Nuclear warheads. Oil was a motivating factor but Congressional liberals quickly muted our military victory into a turn Iraq into a Democracy campaign. Hussein was a butcher and a madman and got his just desserts. My biggest question to you lily livered cowardly call yourself Americans is that the Democratic party is supposed to be a populist movement to help all peoples of the world but you want to abandon the Iraqi majority even though there is clear evidence of real progress in that region. If I was EMPORER of the US, I would have sucked Iraq dry of oil to pay for the stupid war they
faked us into and not waste a trillion dollars rebuilding that idiot country.
Perhaps you ARMCHAIR generals should study more history. Start with the FALL OF ROME (too good too long made the fat Romans, weak and insubordinate like a lot of US citizens-they were attacked from all sides by barbarians who feasted on their weakness), RISE OF NAZI GERMANY (appointed a novice named Hitler screaming hope and change — they got it). Too much McDonald’s carbs, no discipline and funky education has led to a lot of very stupid, Americans–can U spel B A R A C K. Just read the comments on this blog and understand that Dick Cheney knows what he is doing from the inside(much more than you idiots who are making such stupid comments and allegations without any real knowledge). You flag burning creeps should go join Al Quida and be done with it.
March 24th, 2008 at 9:32 amI would think that rather than ranting, we would have carried him out of the white house tarred and feathered by now… WHY? are people surprised? These ‘wanna-be-oligarchs’, are the closest thing to dictators we have had in this nation for some time… and yet they presist. You wanted him you got him, don’t complain, or do something about it! NOW. Or shut up.
March 24th, 2008 at 9:36 amHey,Dicky…..go on….have that next heart attack..I`ve got a nice warm spot just waiting for YOU.
March 24th, 2008 at 9:50 amSo…
who re-elected these two jerks? We did.
We could have stopped the invasion but we were too
busy watching the latest episode of Survivor.
You reap what you SO.
March 24th, 2008 at 9:53 amWhat’s up with those two Bozo’s, Bush and Cheney anyway? Those two clowns have done their best to destroy the national security of this country, not to mention being responsible for the deaths of 4000 troops since the Iraq war started. Thats not even taking into consideration the thousands of wounded one’s scarred for life, that will have no life. Bush and Cheney forget they were elected to represent and serve the citizens of the United States, not to run this country selfishly for their own benefit and profits. I also can’t believe that any of the military commanders, past or present, would support such a fiasco of so called war. This is no war, it started as an invasion and now it’s an occupation and police action by our military. As an ex-vietnam vet I am appalled by the actions of this administration and total abuse of their powers. I saw similar actions taken by President Johnson and Nixon to keep the war going in Vietnam even though it was well known by military strategists and those like myself, who were in military intelligence, that the war in Vietnam was going to be unwinnable. Now in Iraq, its even worse. You have the CIA and NSA running around the country along with paid Merc’s, undermining and destroying what the Iraqi people really want, us being out of that country and letting them deal with their own country’s politics. The Iraqi people have to do this on their own, and due to the several factions of that government it will never work if we’re there trying to install one government to represent all the different factions. Iraq will need to develop several government’s that represent all these factions by themselves. Not one democratic government. Hell they wouldn’t even know what to do with a democracy, and they dont’ want it. Instead of Bush and Cheney sneaking in and out of Iraq in the cover of night, for a day or two, have them stay there for months and see how they fair for themselves. That means outside of the green zone, without security. They paint such a bogus positive picture of how its getting better, yeah, they wouldn’t last an hour on thier own walking those streets. Its real easy to be brave and ballsy when it’s someone else’s ass on the line, not to mention their blood being spilled. Bush and Cheney need to re-read the constitution of this United States. I don’t see anywhere where it says, dicatorship.
March 24th, 2008 at 9:54 amIraq is better off?
Before the invasion, Iraq had movie theaters and bars and women wearing what they wanted and a significant Christian population and one of the few Arab capitals with an open synagogue. You could also buy a gun in shops in Baghdad.
It also had 1,000,000 more live Iraqis.
March 24th, 2008 at 10:02 amI rarely watch television, yet that day I turned it on while I was hanging around with my nine year old daughter. I happened to catch that very moment, with snide Cheney the hog and his outrageous insensitivity. Unbelievable. Though you’d think Americans would believe it by now…apparently this kind of ignorant behavior has become the new reilgion.
saint.
March 24th, 2008 at 10:09 amNeo Con, murderer, thief, and, of course, traitor.
http://www.light-to-dark.com/pox_americana.html
Indict in ‘09. No pardons.
March 24th, 2008 at 10:11 amI have thought for along time that Bush knew 911 was coming and he did nothing. I also believe this war is a personal one between Bush and the Saudis over oil. One the day 911 hit he let the Bin Laden family fly out on a no fly day. I think Bush and all his moron puppets are going to pay one day. I must say thank you and God Bless to ALL the troops who are either fighting or have fought in this horrible war. You all love your country and thought you were doing the right thing by fighting the fight. It’s a very painful and sad thing to know it was all for nothing. I have read some of the war stories on this site and my heart breaks for you. I hope and pray you all can heal from this and have a good life.
March 24th, 2008 at 10:19 amHard hearted Hannah, making apologies for our troops. GET A LIFE GIRL. You liberals make me vomit.
March 24th, 2008 at 10:24 amCheney,Bush,Wolfowitz..all those who have their hands in it should not only be impeached but be tried for war crimes at The Hague..the whole world will be watching and hoping for justice.
March 24th, 2008 at 10:25 amComment from Canada.
March 24th, 2008 at 10:46 amSure Bush and Cheney are evil. They fulfill the needs for the American (and Canadian) wet dream of driving an 8 mile per gallon pig. The world is running out of oil. Other means for energy are expensive to convert to. The stock market driven economies of the free world are supposed to reward creativity and innovation in the marketplace, but in reality the pig is there too. Profit is the bottom line. Crisis is the only thing that will bring change now. We’re all greedy bastards. Your children for oil? Not me. Do you think that the Democrats will change anything. They can’t
It turned my stomach to see “5 deferment” Cheney giving
that female, US soldier a Silver Star.
GO F YOURSELF, CHENEY.
March 24th, 2008 at 11:01 amThink progress, yes, but also DO progress. Cheney and his people are above the law with all their earthly power, like it or not. So how do you make legal changes when the thing you want to change isn’t even on the playing field? You start from the bottom up and smoke ‘um out. Hound your Congressman/woman with letters and email. If that doesn’t work don’t vote for them again. Every one who reads this comment needs to move beyond the thinking stage to the doing stage. Make a difference.
March 24th, 2008 at 11:22 amHe makes Benedict Arnold look like a saint. Please impeach the insufferable scoundrel, and get him in front of a war tribunal where he belongs!
March 24th, 2008 at 11:23 amDear American Cousins … get up off your butts and get rid of these clowns. What are you waiting for? Would you allow another country to treat your mother, father, sister, brother or any cherished family member the way the US is treating others in this world - inventing a crisis to fit a very self-serving purpose while pounding the most vulnerable of inhabitants into misery and oblivion; children, women, the infirm and the elderly? You are much better than this and you know what is right … now please do it. Thanks.
March 24th, 2008 at 11:36 amYou know, they are too busy to bring democracy and freedom to the world to bother about the fluctuations of the public opinion. If you are concerned about the poor state of democracy around the globe, you cannot be bothered with what people think! I guess the next logical step will be to skip elections for awhile, because it is just a waste of time and money and completely unnecessary now, as they have more important things to worry about - like democracy and freedom. And those who do not agree to this policy, should actually be prosecuted as enemies of democracy and freedom!
I guess the above could have been an excerpt from the what is going on in the minds of these people…
March 24th, 2008 at 11:40 amMr. Cheney,
March 24th, 2008 at 11:54 amIt is clear what a self righteous, pompous, arrogant, man you are. You are so arrogant to think that we, the American people are ignorant and uneducated. However, we are far from it and we see your true role in our government. How easy it is to spew out, “So” isn’t it? You know that you have nothing else to say because the decisions made by our government have failed the entire country. Regardless of the fact that you were able to deceive many the truth is, is you and your cohort George Bush will go down in history as the laughing stock of our country. I beg, “God DO NOT have mercy on your soul”
a public execution by firing squad would be too good for Cheney & Co
what’s wrong with the american people??? your government has been hijacked by Halliburton (Cheney’s big oil cronies) and a war profiteering military industrial complex.
oh right… imperialist america, manifest destiny
may america crash & burn, greedy & complacent craphounds, you all deserve it
March 24th, 2008 at 11:55 am#32, jpopphan: Dick Cheney has no business whatsoever in a representative, republican democracy like we have. He is better suited to an authoritarian dictatorship or a fascist plutocracy where elites like himself make the decisions without listening to the pesky peasants who live far away from the decadent bubble inhabited by the rich and powerful.
Unfortunately, the reality is that we no longer live in a representative, republican democracy. The USA is in a fascist plutocracy, as evidenced here by Cheney’s attit