Activists stage rally against Sally Kern.
Activists stage rally against Sally Kern.
Gay and lesbian activists staged a rally yesterday against Sally Kern, the Oklahoma state representative who said gays are a “bigger threat” to our nation than terrorism and would be the “death knell” of this country. Kern has “vowed not to apologize for her remarks,” and she avoided the rally of about 300 people at the state Capitol yesterday. Kern told an Oklahoma paper that she will use “different analogies” next time:
“The message of my speech would not change,” she said. “I might use different analogies.
“Just the fact that you’re talking about an agenda that someone has does not mean that you hate them,” Kern said.
Robin Meyers, senior minister at Mayflower Congregational Church in Oklahoma City, said Kern’s homophobic comments are a “national embarrassment for Oklahoma.” “It is frightening to me that Sally Kern is an elected official doing the people’s business,” he said.
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“Just the fact that you’re talking about an agenda that someone has does not mean that you hate them,” Kern said.
Unless you also push an agenda of bigoted intolerance.
March 19th, 2008 at 2:48 pmWhy does Kern call Cheneys daughter a terrorist?
March 19th, 2008 at 2:51 pmBINGO!
March 19th, 2008 at 2:51 pmSally, I gotta tell you, when you say the someone or a group of people are a threat to you, a bigger threat than crazy religious zealots who suicide bomb people every day, when you say they are the “death knell” of a nation of 300 million people…extrapolating your hatred of those people from your statements really isn’t that much of a long shot.
March 19th, 2008 at 2:53 pmSally Kern = Conservashrew
There’s NO SUCH THING as a “conservababe”
March 19th, 2008 at 2:54 pm“Those traitors!”
March 19th, 2008 at 2:54 pm~GiGi and Dixie
If I knew of even one lesbian couple living together in sin, or even worse, raising a child in a loving family, my marriage would be down the tubes.
BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!
March 19th, 2008 at 2:56 pmTim Mcveigh was gay?
March 19th, 2008 at 2:56 pmI’d go so far as to say that this comment is grounds for her impeachment from Congress. She doesn’t get to sort and cull american citizens and partition those groups she represents and those whom she does not.
She’s an elected civil servant of all the american people; as such, remarks like these are bona fide grounds for removal from office.
This is a very clear case of derelection of duty to her oath of office. The people need to call immediately for her walking papers.
March 19th, 2008 at 2:56 pmI guess it’s a good thing that fundamentalist muslims (like fundamentalist christians, ie YOU Sally Kern) hate gays. I mean really, if the two greatest threats to America, Gays and Terrorists, were to team up we’d all be screwed!
March 19th, 2008 at 2:57 pmThat stupid, stupid, stupid hateful beyotch - ! She should drop dead.
March 19th, 2008 at 2:57 pmThis country was founded on good old Christian principles, so let’s live up to the promise of the founding fathers and persecute and deport all gays, back to Lithuania, where they came from.
March 19th, 2008 at 2:58 pmIt’s time for the people to unite and begin to remove these charlatans and frauds from public office. After all, they serve at the pleasure of the american people. They are our “employees”. The people need to begin a movement to fire these people from public office when they no longer are able to serve ALL people.
March 19th, 2008 at 2:58 pmAnd the People’s movement to remove frauds and criminals from office needs to begin with Bush & Cheney.
March 19th, 2008 at 2:59 pmSay hi to Daryll for me when he shows up, gotta go…
March 19th, 2008 at 2:59 pmHopefully this will be the end of Kern’s political career. I love it that she speaks about the “gay agenda”. As far as I can see their “agenda” is to be treated with respect and like they are our fellow human beings, not an aberration as Ms. Kern thinks.
I suppose she thought that Blacks had an “agenda” when they were fighting to use the same facilities whites used.
Then there were those darn women who had an “agenda” when they were fighting for the right to vote.
March 19th, 2008 at 3:00 pmhttp://online.logcabin.org/
John Bolton Keynote Speaker [heh]
http://online.logcabin.org/ news_views/ reading-room-back-up/ log-cabin-republicans-call-on-1.html
These words are beyond the pale,” said Log Cabin president Patrick Sammon. “Rep. Kern has embarrassed the state of Oklahoma and the Republican Party with this hysterical non-sense. Given ample opportunity to simply apologize, Rep. Kern has refused. She is obviously not worthy of the public’s trust. Rep. Kern should resign,” said Sammon.
After being flooded with calls from constituents condemning her remarks, Kern issued a statement, but refused to apologize. She said her remarks were directed at wealthy, politically active homosexuals who are contributing money to gay and lesbian candidates for public office.
Oh, so its only wealthy gay Republicans that are like terrorists.
Alrighty then…
snarkon
March 19th, 2008 at 3:01 pmXisithrus Says:
March 19th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Why does Kern call Cheneys daughter a terrorist?
Man, you beat me to it!! LOL!!!
RIP
March 19th, 2008 at 3:03 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
She said her remarks were directed at wealthy, politically active homosexuals who are contributing money to gay and lesbian candidates for public office.
Well then, how about wealthy, politically active heterosexuals who are contributing money to political candidates for public office? They certainly are terrerists too>?
March 19th, 2008 at 3:04 pmOOOOklahomo, where the wind blows right from Kern’s piehole…
March 19th, 2008 at 3:06 pmThe gay agenda is coming, the gay agenda is coming! Run, scurry, flee!
March 19th, 2008 at 3:11 pmDefeat the homosexuals over here so we don’t have to defeat them over there!
Stop coddling the homosexuals.
March 19th, 2008 at 3:19 pmI’ve worked with gay people for 18yrs in the medical field.
March 19th, 2008 at 3:20 pmThere are a lot of gay people in the medial field.
Never had a problem with them.
They are often the most skilled and motivated workers.
Bigots like Kern are a bad as the Taliban.
Creeping homosexualism leaves too many options for you and your family.
March 19th, 2008 at 3:22 pmMs. Kern was elected by American citizens - all of them. Not just the ones she would ‘associate’ with.
Sally - if you don’t like your constituants, then quit and go home. Stop faking your patriotism.
March 19th, 2008 at 3:34 pmXisithrus Says:
March 19th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Why does Kern call Cheneys daughter a terrorist?
Ah, man, you stole my thunder.
March 19th, 2008 at 3:46 pmHmmm… I wonder which one of these is the biggest threat to our society:
1) Gays
2) Terrorists
3) Bigots
Seems to me that gays don’t even qualify to be on the list. They don’t blow people up, they don’t attempt to stifle others, and they don’t want to deny anyone else their rights.
March 19th, 2008 at 3:48 pmShow of hands –
How many heterosexuals in here would switch to being gay if not for Sally Kern maintaining her vigilance to keep that from happening?
March 19th, 2008 at 3:50 pmI know ONE Republican who’s getting no money from the Log Cabin Republicans this year…
March 19th, 2008 at 3:51 pmDon’t you guys all know that Constitutional provision… citizenship only for heterosexuality, purge the rest with bullets or gas. It’s in the middle somewhere.
Is it just me, or is the “official” norm Christianity and heterosexuality (which can be harsh enough), and the official norm the worship of and attraction to power and money?
Pecunosexuals?
March 19th, 2008 at 3:55 pmIf it wasn’t for Sally Kern, I’d be a butt-burgler.
March 19th, 2008 at 3:56 pmmissmolly says:
Show of hands –
How many heterosexuals in here would switch to being gay if not for Sally Kern maintaining her vigilance to keep that from happening?
And think of all the marriages she’s saving! More gays would equal a greater push for gay marriage. Why the divorce rate would probably shoot right up to 75% if not for her dedication.
March 19th, 2008 at 3:56 pmDaryll, they are log cabin Republicans. Do you understand that the bible is NOT the law? That this Representative is supposed to represent its constituents?
March 19th, 2008 at 4:06 pmDaryll likely interprets the Garden of Eden story in the book of Genesis as indicating the fall of humanity into sin.
You, by this interpretation, are a sinner Daryll.
March 19th, 2008 at 4:14 pmSeparation of Church and State Dherrrill!
You have a belief system, you are entitled to that. However, your belief system does not make your beliefs real to everyone else. That is precisely why we have the concept of “separation of church and state.”
March 19th, 2008 at 4:16 pm“Sally Kern is an elected official doing the people’s business”, well only for people that she agrees with it seems.
With subhumans like this you have to ask that if she is against gays so insanely, just who else is she against? Blacks, Hispanics, Democrats, teenagers, mixed couples?
A Bigot in one area is most likely a Bigot in more areas.
Buck Fush
March 19th, 2008 at 4:19 pmIf Duh-air-ull is truly a black man, he should know what it’s like being discriminated against.
March 19th, 2008 at 4:20 pmDaryll Says: he believes that the magical invisible faerie in the sky wrote a book that says Gays are bad…you stupid idiot, there is no god, it is made up by man, the bible is a manual of love, hate and bigotry also, written by ancient man to control their tribes.
You are a Bigot Daryll, and huge Bigot, and a superstitious one at that.
March 19th, 2008 at 4:22 pmShe basically stated her opinion about homosexuality, which her opinion has nothing to do with the separation of church and state -Daryll
She basically called her constituents anti-American because of her belief system. Thats NOT her JOB to judge people, her JOB is to represent them.
March 19th, 2008 at 4:24 pmDaryll, its not for you to judge. I think your judging is influenced by the Devil.
March 19th, 2008 at 4:29 pmAs long as we have the First Amendment, she can express her opinions through writing/speaking.
She is not expressing her opinion shes accusing people.
As for the rest of your post it would be inane to reply to.
March 19th, 2008 at 4:33 pmJesus said in his word to go ye into all the world and preach his gospel. This is what I am doing. You are in denial because of sin. -Daryll
Your saying I am in sin is a lie, first off, secondly it shows you are judging me to be a sinner.
Heal thyself Daryll.
March 19th, 2008 at 4:38 pmDaryll- did you ask your pastor if you could post on a liberal blog?
March 19th, 2008 at 4:43 pmOf course you can’t reply because you feel convicted. Sin causes conviction. -Daryll
Your lying to yourself and then trying to apply your falsity thru your imagination unto me.
March 19th, 2008 at 4:43 pmDo you realize that you are supporting the extinction of mankind.-Daryll
Surely you jest. Rev. Hagee is the one who preaches creating Armageddon and the destruction of mankind for the return of Jesus.
March 19th, 2008 at 4:45 pmAND the bible says no man will know when the end [of humanity] will come.
March 19th, 2008 at 4:46 pmMary Cheney’s baby was conceived with Daryl’s sperm.
March 19th, 2008 at 4:47 pmIt is a vital part of bringing more people to Christ.
Christ is not a persons name, Daryll, it means messiah.
March 19th, 2008 at 4:48 pmPastor Hagee is basically informing you to prepare yourself before the rapture so you do not go through eternal damnation. -Daryll
No, hes not, hes promoting war, and thats not a good thing.
March 19th, 2008 at 4:49 pmYou are in denial because of sin. -Daryll
And you know that how? Are you a God able to read peoples’ hearts and minds? As for me, I deny homosexuality as a sin. That’s my right as an American, as a person to whom God gave a working brain, and as a person who has decided not to judge how others love one another. You aren’t just preaching, you are judging. And you don’t give up, even though Jesus gave clear instructions that you should.
March 19th, 2008 at 4:50 pmALL LIARS SHALL HAVE THEIR PARTS IN THE LAKE OF FIRE, WHICH BURNETH WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE! -Daryll
Well, you lied when you called me a sinner. Enjoy your fire bath.
March 19th, 2008 at 4:52 pmHow will mankind be able to procreate if homosexuals continue to emerge? - Daryll
First, Daryll, the percentage of homosexuals in the world has remained pretty constant. Second, has God stopped making heterosexuals? Third, are you aware that there are species which have been able to reproduce asexually and to have the genders change if necessary for survival? God has made a wonderful world, with homosexuality and other diverse forms of sexuality. Why don’t you shut up, sit back, and enjoy the world He created rather than try to force it to be what you think it should be?
March 19th, 2008 at 4:55 pmSure, God has man names, Allah, Yaweh, Jesus, Christ, Lord, etc.
Jesus never said he was GOD, he said he was son of man.
GOD, by the bible, cannot fit on this world.
March 19th, 2008 at 4:55 pmHave you followed Acts 2:38? Also, how can you not be a sinner if you support sin? -Daryll
I dont support sin..you should stop lying about me.
March 19th, 2008 at 4:57 pmI believe that I have the spirit of discernment. So if your preacher states that if you commit a sin, then you are wrong, is he judging you? No. You are in denial. - Daryll
I, too, believe that I have the spirit of discernment and have been appointed by God to argue for the rights of homosexuals and for people to stop thinking of God’s creation as sin. Second, you are not my preacher and I accuse you before God of judging me. Why don’t you give up as Jesus commanded?
March 19th, 2008 at 4:59 pmGender change? That sounds more like a flip flop. - Daryll
Now you are judging God as a “flip flopper”!!
March 19th, 2008 at 5:01 pmDo you support homosexuality and fornication? - Daryll
No, I do not support Hagee.
March 19th, 2008 at 5:02 pmDaryll-
March 19th, 2008 at 5:02 pmGo preach somewhere else. You won’t convert anyone here.
Umm, its physically impossible for Adam and Steve to procreate. If Steve had sex with Eve and created a child that isnt homosexuality…
Besides, mankinds greatest sin was taking from the tree of knowledge.
Its knowledge that creates weapons of war. It was knowledge that caused GOD to topple the tower of babel, not homosexuality.
March 19th, 2008 at 5:02 pmDo you support homosexuality and fornication? -Daryll
Its not for me to judge gay or straight peoples lifestyles.
If you want to fornicate, go ahead. I can assure you I wont be peeking into your bedroom as you want to peek into others.
March 19th, 2008 at 5:07 pmHave you received the Holy Ghost since ye believed.-Daryll
What does this holy ghost look like?
March 19th, 2008 at 5:10 pmDaryll Says:
March 19th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
How will mankind be able to procreate if homosexuals continue to emerge?
Daryll Says:
March 19th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
No, No, No, sex is meant for Husband and Wife. Adam and Steve can’t use Eve to create a child. It is morally and ethically wrong.
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OK, let me get this straight. You are saying that sex is necessary for procreation and it is for this reason that homosexuality is morally and ethically wrong. Does this mean that heterosexual sex between a husband and wife, unless it is specifically for procreation, is also wrong? Do you believe that birth control methods should not be employed? Do you believe that sex between a husband and wife should only occur at the optimum time of conception? Do you believe that once either the husband or wife is incapable of procreation that all sex must cease?
If this is the case, we don’t need to worry about the “gay agenda” — the heterosexuals have already lost the war. Think of all the married couples using birth control because they either choose not to have children, or have already had all the children they want. Think of all the post-menopausal women still enjoying sex with their husbands. Think of aging men with low sperm counts still enjoying sex with their wives.
Shocking!
March 19th, 2008 at 5:10 pmSo why didnt Ted Haggard have a miraculous change Daryll?
March 19th, 2008 at 5:11 pmDaryll Says:
March 19th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
I challenge you to attend one of our sister churches this Sunday. I guarantee you that there will be a miraculous change in your life.
A change indeed, but not a change for the better.
March 19th, 2008 at 5:11 pmNumber one, I have a wife so I do not have a need to fornicate. -Daryll
What??
I am informing you and everyone else about God’s word. -Daryll
So you have actually see the writing on the wall?
March 19th, 2008 at 5:15 pmHave you followed Acts 2:38? Have you received the Holy Ghost since ye believed. If not, how can you have the spirit of discernment? How can you that say God influenced you to support an action that is considered damned in the bible? - Daryll
Yes. Yes. Because Jesus himself argued against the common religious dogma of his time (working on the Sabbath, not following cleanliness laws, associating with sinners) and was damned by the Pharisees. I’ll take my cues from Jesus over you or any other modern Christian Pharisee. I seek freedom to love and follow one’s own conscience in relationship to God, as God intended. I have tried to deny God’s expectation that I be an advocate for homosexuals. He won’t let that cup pass by me. Should I, therefore, deny God’s mission for me because the world and people like you disagree?
March 19th, 2008 at 5:18 pmIt is not a sin if you do not procreate, but he has structured sex between a man and woman as the only way a child can be conceived. - Daryll
Did man create or simply discover God’s created science that allows for artificial insemination, that is, procreation without sex?
Do you not believe that Jesus, the child, was created without sex between a man and a woman, making your statement above false?
March 19th, 2008 at 5:22 pmCome on. There is a scripture in the New Testament that defies homosexuality. How could God given you a mission to support the breaking of his laws. You might want to get back on your knees and seek proper insight - Daryll
Take it up with God, Daryll. I’ve tried to pray my way out of taking up this mission and God keeps throwing it back at me in many different ways. Again, I ask, would you have me deny him?
March 19th, 2008 at 5:26 pmHey Daryll, have you seen the small sphere of bright white light in your home, about you?
Dont tell me what I need to do and not do.
March 19th, 2008 at 5:29 pmPatrioticLiberalChristian Says:
March 19th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
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I have tried to deny God’s expectation that I be an advocate for homosexuals. He won’t let that cup pass by me. Should I, therefore, deny God’s mission for me because the world and people like you disagree?
You might find the following useful if you intend to be an advocate for homosexuals.
http://www.exodusglobalalliance.org/
This might also be helpful.
I Corinthians 6:
http://bibleresources.bible.com/ passagesearchresults2.php?passage1=1+Corinthians+6&book_id=53&version1=31&tp=16&c=6
March 19th, 2008 at 5:30 pmAnd Daryll, Jesus himself said that all the laws and the prophets are based on one simple concept: to love God and to love your neighbor as yourself. Sin is in the heart, by not loving God and not loving others. No man, including you, can judge the sinfulness of another because only God knows the heart. There are those who, like the Pharisees, worship God with their actions but are the vilest of sinners in their heart. There are others who, like Jesus, broke the religious laws with their actions because of love. I will not support the oppression of homosexuals or the judging of homosexuals as sinners by man.
March 19th, 2008 at 5:30 pmHey it is your soul, all I can do is give you insight on saving your soul.-Daryll
My soul is safe. You however have not achieved that higher level, if you had you would know what I am talking about. It seems to me you need help because your still stuck on reading other peoples words and not using your own mind to REALLY find your soul.
March 19th, 2008 at 5:34 pmArtificial insemination is not the will of God - Daryll
That’s NOT what I asked you. God created the science, a method by which procreation can occur without sex, contrary to your using this to justify your oppression of homosexuals on the basis of your religious beliefs.
the word is the truth and that it should and will not be altered. - Daryll
But it has been! As proof, consider the use of the word “homosexual” in translations of the Bible. The word “homosexual” did not even exist in any language until the late 1800’s and was coined by a psychologist. Yet, modern Christians try to apply the term and the modern definition of the word to the ancient text of the Scriptures.
March 19th, 2008 at 5:35 pmPLC is well aware of the content of the Bible. PLC has studied the Bible for many years. PLC is a graduate of a Christian college where religious courses were required. PLC has taken several Bible study courses through his church. PLC does not require the assistance of bitblt to reference relevant Biblical verses regarding homosexuality.
March 19th, 2008 at 5:38 pmDaryll Says:
March 19th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
“God gave man the ability to create science. If a nation creates weapons of mass destruction (which includes alot of science) to kill a mass number of people, is it right? NO.”
Hi Daryll, I thought we might find you here. So I am thinking it would be in the best interests of the US to get rid of all our weapons of mass destruction. I am glad you pointed out how it is wrong to create such weapons. Now about that shrimp thing. I really think I should refuse to ship them like those crazy pharmacists who think they can use their goofball ideas as the basis for not doing their jobs
March 19th, 2008 at 5:42 pmDaryll’s really into three-ways:
1 man + 1 woman + God
Anything less is a sin.
March 19th, 2008 at 5:43 pmAnd Daryll, Jesus himself said that all the laws and the prophets are based on one simple concept: to love God and to love your neighbor as yourself.
That’s actually two concepts and Christ says so Himself in Matthew. He says to love God is the first greatest commandment and to love you neighbor is the second greatest commandment, but your are correct that He says this is the essence of the Mosaic Law. Believe the implied message here is that one can’t do the second greatest command without doing the first greatest command.
You might want to check out Leviticus 19:18 and the preceding verses. Verses 18 is important because when the Lord states the Gold Rule this is what He is quoting.
Here for your convenience is what it says:
Leviticus 19
Since verse 18 is the basis for the Golden Rule I assume that these other verses offer clarification of verse 18.
Note verse 17 says don’t hate you brother in your heart, and then it says, correct him when he does wrong. These are not contrary actions.
To illustrate children who go undisciplined are the ones who are unloved.
March 19th, 2008 at 5:44 pmThen why did he create the Commandments? - Daryll
Because the Hebrew people, just freed from slavery and about to enter the country where pagan worship and exploitative social behavior was accepted needed guidance. The Baal worshippers engaged in sexual rites, homosexual and heterosexual acts divorced from love, to honor their god. Like a dog that is usually chained but gets free tends to run around in dangerous fashion, God worried that the Hebrew people had no guiding principles for their behavior in this new land. Note that all of the commandments are about respecting and loving God and others, nothing about homosexuality because that is not what was concerned about. He was concerned about the absence of respect and love.
March 19th, 2008 at 5:44 pmThat is a complete farce. Your statement is alot of liberal/hippie talk. -Daryll
No, its not. You call it the holy ghost, and when you see it you will know its what your talking about but havent seen. Thats how I know you havent achieved a higher level.
As for another of your LIES against me, I dont smoke pot and have short hair.
March 19th, 2008 at 5:46 pmWhy did Daryll just call Jesus a Hippy?
March 19th, 2008 at 5:47 pmGood God,
It’s Daryll and his comic-book adaptation of the Bible.
Designed for children, most of it flies far over his head.
Hey bible-humper: die now for jesus - join the “war”, kill people you don’t even begin to understand. Then die, proud that you killed in the name of Jesus.
March 19th, 2008 at 5:49 pmThen why did he create the Commandments? - Daryll
Coleridge wrote some interesting stuff will high on opium. Maybe that ayahuasca stuff aids in creative writing as well
March 19th, 2008 at 5:49 pmPLC agrees with Leviticus 19. PLC understands that it is consistent with the teachings of Jesus and does nothing to oppress others. PLC is also aware that Leviticus is most probably directed at the Levites, one of the 12 tribes, who were assigned by God to be his priests and charged with handling disputes and spiritual transgressions. Thus, it may also be a reasonable conjecture that the prohibition against “homosexuality” was, in fact, directed at the Levite priests not to act like their Baal counterparts and engage in or encourage sexual rites as part of worship.
March 19th, 2008 at 5:50 pmThe bible says the wages of sin is death.
So all the killing in the name of Jesus (see Dumbya) is a sin.
I knew it. Bush is a sinner, and he’s getting “paid” in dead bodies.
March 19th, 2008 at 5:52 pmDaryll the bible says the number of the beast is 6 and the number of the lord is 3
So what is the number of Jesus? 888
http://www.biblewheel.com/gr/GR_888.asp
March 19th, 2008 at 5:55 pmDaryll, as much as I’d like to continue, I have to sign off. I’m sure we’ll cross crosses again in the future.
March 19th, 2008 at 5:56 pmRed Letter Day, eh Daryll?
March 19th, 2008 at 5:58 pmDaryll Says:
March 19th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Come on. There is a scripture in the New Testament that defies homosexuality.
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You’d have a TON more credibility if you would give a chapter and verse whenever you make a claim that such-and-such is in the bible.
Are you talking about Romans 1:26-27? Here’s that text:
“Because of this [idolatry], God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.”
This passage is probably only second to Leviticus 18 and 20 in its use as justification for anti-gay bigotry. Yet, if you take a look at it, you will notice that GOD MADE these people gay as punishment for idolatry. These were heterosexuals who became inflamed with lust for members of the same sex because God made it so. Why would this be a punishment? For the very reason you described earlier — it would eliminate procreation, essentially eliminating a man’s lineage. This was a far bigger thing in those days than it is now.
The passage does not condemn people for practicing homosexuality. The passage describes punishment for idolatry.
March 19th, 2008 at 6:00 pmHey Daryll, sacrificed any animals lately? Leviticus commands you do find a calf without blemish and ritualistically kill it, sprinkle its blood around your house and burn it. It was my nephew’s Torah portion at his Bar Mitzvah last weekend. And kill your kids if they disobey. And don’t sit on the same chair that your menstruating wife sits on. Or share a bed with her during her period. No blended fabrics. And 600+ other rules and regulations. Watch out. You are committing abominations. You could be cut off from your people.
March 19th, 2008 at 6:16 pmYou don’t? Then you are cherry picking the holy scriptures, just like everyone else does. Gotta question your faithfulness to the Book if that’s the case.
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People like Oklahoma state representative Sally Kern ARE the bigger threat to individual rights.
R E M E M B E R:
THEY(sic) HATE US FOR OUR FREEDOMS…
And so they debate the merits to undermining those freedoms.
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March 19th, 2008 at 7:07 pmMethinks Daryll protests way way waaaaaay too much.
Extreme closet case, anyone?
-Crazy Hussein Cat Lady
March 19th, 2008 at 7:25 pmDaryll is into the abuse thing.
He comes here to get flagellated, and then goes home from his tech job, puts on a diaper, and begs Tiffany to whip him.
March 19th, 2008 at 8:12 pm#38 Daryll: said:
I will join with them as soon as God gives them authorization and they are able to naturally conceive a child. Until then, no. Also, Robin Kerns is not a minister. God stated within his word that women are not allowed to preach. Follow God’s laws.
1. Is virgin birth natural?
2. Which ring of hell do you consign the parents and children of in vitro fertilization?
I don’t read the bible anymore, so can you give me chapter and birth where Jesus condemns homosexuality? Or was that in the old testament?
March 19th, 2008 at 8:42 pmDamn, I missed Daryll.
Same old righteous, arrogant, pompous ass we know and love. :-D
March 19th, 2008 at 8:48 pmYou know, I don’t even know where to start on this. Let me just put it simply. I don’t agree with what she said or how she said it, but the First Amendment is a right, even for rigth-wing politicians who use social/religious views as political footballs; That while Asexual reproduction, homosexuality, and bi-sexuality do exist in the broader natural world and it has been discovered that there maybe genes that PREDISPOSE, NOT DETERMINE, a human to a certain orientaton that maybe more feminine or masculine, homosexuality is an anomaly (in other words an exception to the rule, NOT the rule) in the natural world. Why? because one of the chief concerns of any species after their specific survival, is to pass on their genes to another generation. One may argue then, using science, that homosexuality in the animal kingdom is therefore nothing but weakness of genes. That may be plausible, but predisposition DOES NOT EQUAL actually BEING Homosexual. NO gene that means a human will definitely BE homosexuality has been found, so therefore it can further be inferred (and please excuse me if my choice of words keep sending you to the dictionary) that one who has genes that predispose him/her to be more feminine or masculine, it is that person’s CHOICE whether he/she is going to be homosexual or not. And, I might add, it has been medically, and psychologically, and socialogically shown in many different studies, that the choice of being homosexual is a result of: his/her conditioning based on familial and social responses toward that person’s femininity or masculinity when he/she was a child (prepubescence and teenage years); or sexual abuse; or phsychological and physical abuse; or any combinations there of. In conclusion, 1.) homosexuality is a choice (whether through positve or negative conditoning) 2.) and I and anyone else DONOT have to respect that choice! If one chooses that lifestyle, DO NOT try to push me into believing that you had NO CHOICE (unless you were under severe duress or abuse was severe) in being that way, and, DO NOT berate, belittle or try to shut me up when I, or anyone else, publically disagree with or put out our opinions based on known facts!!!!!!!!!!!! It is not HATE, it is PREJUDICE, its just what it is. You socialist, left-wing speech nazis need to learn that!!!!!!!!!!
March 19th, 2008 at 9:57 pmJ.R. Ash Says:
March 19th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
“and please excuse me if my choice of words keep sending you to the dictionary”
Wasn’t a problem but thanks for caring. So have you looked at any of the research which has been done relative to the impact of hormone levels during key windows of prenatal development? Very interesting stuff
March 19th, 2008 at 10:02 pmA house divided…
March 19th, 2008 at 10:05 pmJ.R. Ash Says:
March 19th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
It is not HATE, it is PREJUDICE, its just what it is. You socialist, left-wing speech nazis need to learn that!!!!!!!!!!
Whoa… is this dude gay, or what?
Gay, gay, and gay… BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…
And hates himself for it, too…
March 19th, 2008 at 10:13 pm“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,”
March 19th, 2008 at 10:24 pmWell, good old TJ seems to think that the purpose of any government is to secure the happiness of ALL its citizens and that every single one is equal under the law. Who is Sally Kern to challenge that?
It is not HATE, it is PREJUDICE, its just what it is. You socialist, left-wing speech nazis need to learn that!!!!!!!!!!
Prejudice comes from ignorance.
Ignorance comes from fear.
And fear can easily drive one to hate. (Do you hate things like bees? Because you’re afraid of them, right? Or any other creature that gives you the willies. Do you love those things you fear or hate them?)
And, yes, it is her constitutional right to say those things. But you know what? All that means is that the government cannot do anything to her because of it. That does not mean that listeners and other people who care about their fellow human beings can’t let everyone know that speech like this, while constitutionally protected, is no way to talk in public. Not if you want to be taken seriously.
It IS Hate Speech, which comes from her prejudices, which come from her ignorance, which comes from her fear.
She is afraid. Afraid of homosexuals. Just like Michael Savage and the rest of the acerebralists out there.
March 19th, 2008 at 10:40 pmThat Bong Hits For Jesus Kids should have been supported by the Supreme Court, right J.R. Ash?
March 19th, 2008 at 10:49 pmJ.R. Ash
March 19th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Come out of the closet, JR.
March 19th, 2008 at 11:34 pmI love how some Christians like Daryll have appointed themselves the sole arbiters of who is a sinner or not. Funny, I thought only God had that power…according to your beliefs. This I hate the sin but not the sinner BS is SO DAMN condescending and infuriating at the same time, and not to mention it smacks of self-righteousness. There was a group of people in the Gospels who were condemned by Jesus for that very same attitude.
March 20th, 2008 at 1:12 amJ.R. Ash Says:
March 19th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
It’s nice how some people have to resort to name-calling to express their views. Very classy, my dear.
and I’m sure those penguins one day said to themselves, let’s invalidate the homosexual agenda by choosing to be gay. Then that’ll shut them up with their homosexuality is not a choice BS. *SARCASM
March 20th, 2008 at 1:14 amWell, first off, anyone who points to the bible, or their belief in God as a basis for their views automatically attacked and called names on these message boards..so dont throw stones and then chide them for throwing them back. Second off, if I get angry and blow off steam it is because of my fustration at todays ‘Americans’ who seem to have lazily adopted the sophist philosophy of anti-reason, which means that the sole meaning of our life is to satisfy or our lowest drives (hunger, pleasure,ect.) and to give ourselves over to the subordinate aspects of ourselves ( ego, emotions, ect.) And so we have come to lazily adopt another parellel philosophy that was taken from religion, but twisted to fit the first: Judge not lest you be judged. The latter one fits nicely with the first because it now you have I will do and be whatever the heck I want, you do the same, and we wont condemn each other for it. And those who do, well they are just biggots, homophobes, bible-thumping facists, and so on. Well, I tell you what, Iam not a christian (in fact I wonder if any religion is THE WAY, though I believe there is a God)but I know I and any human, unless menatally handicapped, have the capacity to reason, and I offer no apologies for expecting others to live up to their full potential. And I wont artfully select convenient and artfully dodge inconvenient: scientific, medical, spiritual, moral, or logical facts so i can beleive what I want to believe. Guess what, someone can call the very same sun we all see as being square, someone else can declare that same sun as being the color green, but NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE says of it, that sun just is what it is, and NO ONE can change that one bit. Happy illusions to those who hold on to them!!
March 20th, 2008 at 9:01 pmPut down the meth pipe, JR.
Lordy…
March 20th, 2008 at 11:02 pm