FRC: I ‘prefer’ to ‘export homosexuals’ from the U.S.
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FRC: I ‘prefer’ to ‘export homosexuals’ from the U.S.
Discussing his opposition to the Uniting American Families Act — “which would allow gay Americans the same right straight Americans have to sponsor a foreign partner for citizenship” — Family Research Council Vice President Peter Sprigg recently offered rhetorical support for exporting gay men and women from America. “I would much prefer to export homosexuals from the United States than to import them into the United States because we believe homosexuality is destructive to society,” said Sprigg. (HT: Andrew Sullivan)
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And I think bigots are destructive to society. Does this mean I should support exporting bigots from the United States? Not that it isn’t a bad idea…
March 20th, 2008 at 4:39 pmHmmm, MissMolly – it appears we’re thinking alike.
Where do you suppose we ought to send him and his bigoted friends…?
Ah! I know! Iran! It’s a well-known fact that there are no homosexuals in Iran…
/snark
March 20th, 2008 at 4:41 pmYes, that is a true Malkin Award Nominee.
March 20th, 2008 at 4:42 pmwe believe homosexuality is destructive to society
So who is this “we” that this person is speaking of? As far as I can tell a majority of people in this country are fine with homosexuals. They recognize that being homosexual is an act of nature and recognize that they are not a threat to heterosexual marriages. The treat to heterosexual marriage is infidelity and divorce.
March 20th, 2008 at 4:42 pmtreat = threat
March 20th, 2008 at 4:42 pmWell, a mandate to export homosexuals would spell the end for the Republican party.
March 20th, 2008 at 4:42 pmThe right side (what a misnomer) loves itself and no others. They love “the children”, up until they are born – then they don’t care. The love ‘everybody’, as long as ‘everybody’ looks and thinks as they do. The entire universe would be better off if these bigoted and backwards fools simply STFU!
March 20th, 2008 at 4:43 pmDamn!! These people is fixated on teh gay.
March 20th, 2008 at 4:44 pmwe believe homosexuality is destructive to society
On what evidence of destructiveness do they base this belief?
Oh, silly me… he’s a right-winger. They don’t need evidence to inform their beliefs…
March 20th, 2008 at 4:44 pmGallup Poll Shows Highest-Ever Acceptance of Homosexuality in
March 20th, 2008 at 4:47 pmPRINCETON, NJ – May 30, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) – American Gallup Poll results, released this morning, indicate that tolerance of homosexuality within the United States has reached a record high. According to the Poll, since 1977 public support of legalization of “homosexual relations between consenting adults” has risen from 43% to a record-breaking 59%.
ahahaha
YES!! America…. LAND OF INTOLERANCE AND HATE SPEECH.
KILL ME NOW…
Isn’t “EXPORTING” a certain type of citizen called genocide?
Isnt that what the nazis did, although, they exported further, to another astral plane.
March 20th, 2008 at 4:49 pmLook everybody, try to keep the noise down… we don’t want to alert Daryll, okay? You know how much he loves the gay threads.
March 20th, 2008 at 4:51 pmYet another McCain Endorser I suppose…
March 20th, 2008 at 4:52 pmWhen did families become a commodity?
March 20th, 2008 at 4:55 pmWhen did we start exporting and importing people?
Is there any precedent for this?
Hey Neocons, you don’t write the handbook on being a good American. Weeding out a section of society for your delight is the last of REAL America’s priorities.
The 1950’s is OVER, IDIOTS.
March 20th, 2008 at 4:55 pmSprigg should have tried using “exporting homosexuals” as a way of reducing the massive trade deficit.
March 20th, 2008 at 4:58 pmPeter Sprigged Mark Foley.
March 20th, 2008 at 4:58 pmBilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Gallup Poll Shows Highest-Ever Acceptance of Homosexuality
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Generally, once people realize that they have friends, neighbors, and co-workers who are gay, they understand that they are people like everybody else and are no real threat.
Somebody once said (I can’t remember who) that if all gay people turned blue overnight that straight people would be amazed to discover they encounter quite a few gays in their everyday lives — with no ill effects.
Bigots, on the other hand, are a different story.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:01 pmbelac Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
When did families become a commodity?
When did we start exporting and importing people?
Is there any precedent for this?
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Not since we “imported” Africans to be slaves a couple of centuries ago. Which appalls virtually all Americans today.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:04 pmgood_golly – March 20th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Thanks for the clarification, goon_golly.
I will finally get some sleep now.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:05 pmI’d prefer to export the bigots from America, but we cant always get what we want.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:05 pmExport these religious fanatics to fight in the war-for-profits, which they hold dear to their hearts.
($$$$)
March 20th, 2008 at 5:05 pmgood_golly Says:
Peter Sprigg does not speak for all conservatives. He certainly doesn’t speak for me, no more than Rev. Wright speaks for all Liberals.
You know, what, Geej? You’re undoubtedly correct about this, but I dare suspect that Peter Sprigg speaks for more conservatives than Rev. Wright speaks for liberals. After all, you guys have employed anti-gay rhetoric and ballot measures in the last several elections as a means of turning out your base.
Oops. “Turning out”. That was an unfortunate choice of word, wasn’t it?
March 20th, 2008 at 5:05 pmfletc3her Says:
I’d prefer to export the bigots from America, but we cant always get what we want.
Where would we find a market for them?
March 20th, 2008 at 5:06 pmgood_golly Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Peter Sprigg does not speak for all conservatives. He certainly doesn’t speak for me, no more than Rev. Wright speaks for all Liberals.
But your right side pundits are telling anybody within ear shot just the opposite. They say Wright DOES speak for all progressives. And if Sprigg has a prominent right siders attention, his talking points become part of the dialog – so Sprigg, indirectly, DOES speak for all conservative.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:07 pmAs for Peter Sprigg, if gay are destructive to society, and he wants to export them from the US, I have to wonder what country he proposes gay people should be exported to.
What other society does he want to destroy?
Gotta love them “compassionate conservatives”…
March 20th, 2008 at 5:07 pmLet me repeat. I am not gay!
-Larry Craig(R)-My Own Pervert Idaho
March 20th, 2008 at 5:07 pmHate is more destructive to society than love..
March 20th, 2008 at 5:08 pmGregor Samsa Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
As for Peter Sprigg, if gay are destructive to society, and he wants to export them from the US, I have to wonder what country he proposes gay people should be exported to.
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I think he has in mind the fictional island featured in the television show “Lost”.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:08 pmI’m pretty sure, from what I’ve read of the Bible, that Jesus would be quite appalled at how these so-called preachers preach hate, intolerance and bigotry.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:09 pmGOP SUPPORTER-FRC CHAIRMAN SPRIGGS CALLS FOR DEPORTATION OF MULTIPLE GOP SENATORS, CONGRESSMAN, REPUBLICAN PASTORS AND CATHLIC PRIESTS! ALSO CALLS FOR THE DEPORTAION OF MULTIPLE DEMOCRATIC POLITICIANS, 50% OF TV/THEATRE/FASHION and CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRIES, 30% OF EMRGENCY SERVICES PERSONELL.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:09 pmFrom what we have seen sex scandal over the last few years the moral majority has been decimated by its own doings.
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From October 19 to October 21 2007 the Family Research Council convened a summit of several hundred conservative Christian activists in Washington, DC. The mission of the meeting was to conduct a straw poll on whom is the best choice for religious conservatives.[34][35]
The difference of votes contrasted, as to the online poll and the onsite poll. (The online poll was conducted for several months prior to the summit.[36] However, some summit attendees said that they were voting online to avoid long lines. [37])
[edit] Leading candidates, online poll
* No. 1: Mitt Romney, 27.62%
* No. 2: Mike Huckabee, 27.15%
* No. 3: Ron Paul, 14.98%
* No. 4: Fred Thompson, 9.77%
[edit] Leading candidates, onsite poll
* No. 1: Mike Huckabee, 51.26%
* No. 2: Mitt Romney, 10.40%
* No. 3: Fred Thompson, 8.09%
* No. 4: Tom Tancredo, 6.83%
As we see McCain is NOT a choice of the FRC.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:10 pmAnd in Pat Robertson’s case – murder.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:10 pmgalmud Says:
Hate is more destructive to society than love..
Not if it’s the wrong kind of love, apparently. It’s pretty clear that Peter Sprigg and the FRC would much rather embrace hate than “the wrong kind of love”.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:10 pmUnbelieveable. Can you imagine the outrage that would explode forth if I were to suggest that fundamentalist Christians like those who make up the membership of the FRC and other organizations who are obsessed with homosexuality should be expelled from the US because of the danger they present to our liberty, freedoms and democracy?
No one, and I do mean NO ONE, has the right to expel me or any other gay American from this country. I was born here; my family has lived in this nation for generations; I am a citizen; I am a taxpayer.
If the FRC is unhappy with the hard-won tolerance that gays and lesbians have fought and died for, then it is THEY who should leave the country. Go somewhere else where you won’t bother me, eh?
March 20th, 2008 at 5:13 pmmissmolly Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
I think he has in mind the fictional island featured in the television show “Lost”.
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I chose not to have tv. I have heard of this show but have no idea what it is about. Sort of a gay Gilligan’s Island? Maybe tv has improved since I gave it up.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:13 pmGood Americans, hold on tight. The neocons are at it full force with their rhetoric, and that will only intensify once Barack is the nominee.
To the gay community fighting for civil unions and other benefits, to women seeking equal pay for equal work, to the black community always faced with some kind of uphill battle, stand tall like you usually do, even though more than enough has already been asked out of you.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:14 pmGroups fighting for equality always want support from those who are different from them (i.e., white support for blacks, straight support for gays, men supporting women). This makes forming and strengthening bonds a much better prospect.
Fighting back against spattering invective can sometimes be frustrating, because the same mouthbreathers keep GOING and GOING after being confronted time and time again.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:20 pmI have heard of this show but have no idea what it is about. Sort of a gay Gilligan’s Island? Maybe tv has improved since I gave it up.
dbadass
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I was stuck in a hotel room in Oklahoma for 3 weeks, with a TV, and I was able to see some of these programs.
“Lost” is a melodramatic spin off from the Survivor theme, with cop and courtroom and laboratory drama (flashbacks/flashforwards, it’s hard to tell sometimes….
March 20th, 2008 at 5:26 pmPart Jurassic park, part Castaway, all together forgettable.
Gilligan and the Captain with guns. Watch out for MaryAnne!!
Yep apparently Obamas church UCC, supports equal marriage rights (gay marriage) so there’s a whole lot of love for the gaybashers to hate.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:27 pmmissmolly – March 20th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
That is going to be one very crowded island.
Sprigg the bigot also conveniently missed the fact that there have always been a certain percentage of the population who are gay -otherwise mentions in the Bible of a man who “lies with a man as with a woman” make no sense.
All these hundreds of years and society seems to be doing ok. Well, at least until Bush II got himself into the White House…
March 20th, 2008 at 5:30 pmFighting back against spattering invective can sometimes be frustrating, because the same mouthbreathers keep GOING and GOING after being confronted time and time again.
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I like that. :)
Why do they behave like this? It is beyond understanding where their consciousness exists. Wherever it is they keep it packed up, they haven’t used it for a long time.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:30 pmhe’s a sprigg off the old bush, all right.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:31 pmAs if this is the most important crisis facing our country.
This is FUBAR – as is our country.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:32 pmjpopphan Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
Unbelieveable. Can you imagine the outrage that would explode forth if I were to suggest that fundamentalist Christians like those who make up the membership of the FRC and other organizations who are obsessed with homosexuality should be expelled from the US because of the danger they present to our liberty, freedoms and democracy?
No one, and I do mean NO ONE, has the right to expel me or any other gay American from this country. I was born here; my family has lived in this nation for generations; I am a citizen; I am a taxpayer.
If the FRC is unhappy with the hard-won tolerance that gays and lesbians have fought and died for, then it is THEY who should leave the country. Go somewhere else where you won’t bother me, eh?
What I find unbelievable in these idiots’ discussion of any kind regarding LGBT issues is that they talk as if you’re “things,” rather than actual fellow human beings.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:32 pm“I disagree with Mr. Sprigg. Keep them here so we can change there lives from this perverted behavior. This can only be done through Jesus”
Daryll.
Is this that silly deprogramming idea again.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:37 pmOf course Sprigg got a point. Remember in 2005 when homosexuals caused the death of 2000 people in New Orleans?
March 20th, 2008 at 5:38 pmHey Daryll, you and your Jesus can SMD. How’s that?
(I’m sure TP will have no problem with this post, since they apparently have none with Darylls)
March 20th, 2008 at 5:39 pmDaryll Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
mary Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
I’m pretty sure, from what I’ve read of the Bible, that Jesus would be quite appalled at how these so-called preachers preach hate, intolerance and bigotry.
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This isn’t a hate message. It is called the truth. We coming upon Easter, the day Jesus sacrificed his life for our iniquities, and you still support sin. I hope you take the chance to save your soul on Sunday. If not, all of your new clothing, the Easter dinner, egg hunt, etc., is in vain.
F_ck Jesus, and the donkey he rode in on.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:39 pmWhen Christ returns, Daryll will not be ascending with him, nor will the vast majority of people who call themselves Christian.
And the thought of that makes me really, REALLY want Christ to return…I want to watch the YouTubes of their faces when Christ turns his back on those who turned their backs on his teachings.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:39 pmHey Daryll, I thought Easter was the day the of the resurrection not the day of the crucifixtion. I don’t really follow any of that such but have I been wrong about this for so long. And what’s up with the rabbit?
March 20th, 2008 at 5:40 pmDaryll, I’m not. I think you need to wake up. Your Jesus is a lie. You shouldn’t be peddling such lies.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:41 pm“No it is called coming back to Christ Jesus.”
Daryll
It is impossible to come back to something you were never with
March 20th, 2008 at 5:42 pmVerbalKint Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Well, a mandate to export homosexuals would spell the end for the Republican party.
Here is a thought about “the end for the Republican party.” Something to think about as progressives!!
http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2008-gauntlet
March 20th, 2008 at 5:42 pmSorry Daryll, I mean no disrespect but most of those that I have met who claim to have been born more than once are a bunch of weak, feeble, and needed losers who need to be lead around through life.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:44 pmWhy do they behave like this? It is beyond understanding where their consciousness exists. Wherever it is they keep it packed up, they haven’t used it for a long time.
Thank you, Nevar. Some people are beyond repair. The solution would be to put someone in the White House who would solicit our input, than that of the AEI.
We have the right ideas to becoming a learning society. Presently we’re being called “left-wing loony bloggers.” People like yourself have the right ideas to transform our Government into the knowledge Government.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:44 pmDaryll Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Awright, I told you guys to keep it down! You know how these gay threads attract Daryll!!!!
Ah well, who had 5:32 in the Daryll Pool? You’re a winner!
March 20th, 2008 at 5:44 pmSure as hell didn’t die for my sins. I wasn’t even old enough to sin yet. Admittedly I have been working hard to make up for lost time though
March 20th, 2008 at 5:46 pmIf we listen to Daryll, we find that Jesus was a complete failure, and that his death was meaningless, since it has done nothing to save a single soul. Awaiting the rapture, which is scheduled every few months, and never happens, is proof that Jesus is a simple fairy tale, wishful thinking, and superstition. Otherwise, the world would be a better, more peaceful place.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:47 pmDaryll, if you are for real, please listen to this: you’re not doing your cause any good with this approach.
If you’re a parody troll, however, keep it up. You’re doing wonderfully.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:49 pmDaryll Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
It is also called being born again.
No, it’s called being taken for a fool. Again and again.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:49 pmEnjoy your 10 remaining months of influence, hate peddlers.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:50 pmDaryll:
“I disagree with Mr. Sprigg. Keep them here so we can change there lives from this perverted behavior. This can only be done through Jesus.”
Well, a life in Christ hasn’t done much to cure gay/pedophile priests.
“This isn’t a hate message. It is called the truth.”
Oh sure, it “called” the truth, but it isn’t actually true. You can’t just declare something to be the truth just because you believe it despite a complete lack of supporting evidence.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:50 pmWhile waiting for drawings to be delivered to a construction site I turned on am hate radio….listened to a couple of channels for a little while….it was sad and scary.
They are lined up 4 or 5 deep on each show to say negative things about progressives. Unprovable and clearly lies with the closeset of examinations.
Statements like: “Another failed progressive policy. They have never had a sucessful one, ever” Accompanied by cheers and support. It sounds like when someone says amen when the preacher hits a resonant chord….
Na, social security doesn’t work….minimum wage, etc.
They are religiously fanatical about it and they never try to address any of the facts on the ground about Iraq or the economy…….
we need a fairness doctrine back in full force. There seems to be no other way to counter the barrage of lies that come out of these people’s mouths.
It is indecent.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:50 pmdbadass Says:
Sorry Daryll, I mean no disrespect but most of those that I have met who claim to have been born more than once are a bunch of weak, feeble, and needed losers who need to be lead around through life.
Daryll Says:
So you are saying that, daily, you do not need God’s help? Who woke you up, gave you a mind to think, kept your health in tact, ect.? Certainly not you so who?
Not so strong on the reading comprehension, there, are ya, Daryll?
March 20th, 2008 at 5:51 pmDaryll what makes you think I “know” I should follow some imagined Hippies “word” Why not the word of one of those much cooler and funkier Hindu Gods. They seem like they would have far more interesting things to say
March 20th, 2008 at 5:51 pmDaryll Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
So you are saying that, daily, you do not need God’s help? Who woke you up, gave you a mind to think, kept your health in tact, ect.? Certainly not you so who?
God has never helped me. I was born with a mind to think, thus realizing that god was a crutch for those that prefer not to think. God has not kept my health intact, I have, and the millions and millions of “Christians” that are suffereing from cancer, diabetes, etc., etc., certainy are not being touched by God, unless s/he’s truly a sick monster. Is that your argument, Daryll, that God is a sick monster? Because I’m ready to agree with that.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:52 pmDrywall:
Nope.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:54 pmWho is who? Horton didn’t even accept it on faith. How can you be so arrogant as to beliieve that someone created this universe.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:56 pmChurch on Sunday? Wouldn’t cross my mind but for those of you that will be that’s cool. Just stop telling the rest of us what we should be doing like normal people of faith. I have no problem with faith just the freaks that think they need to force one faith at the expense of others.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:56 pmPoint us to Christians that are perfect, Daryll. Worshipping Mary, the mother of Jesus, is worshipping an idol? You are truly and completey screwed up. You are the perfect tool for the money-grubbing church you allow to poison your mind with that ignorance and hate. Jesus would spit on you. Jesus would have no use for a hater like you.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:56 pmDaryll Says:
Catholics do not follow the way of holiness. They worship idols (Mary).
Still having a problem with that whole judging thing, huh, Drywall? Do I really need to quote Matthew 7 back to you again?
March 20th, 2008 at 5:56 pmDear Daryll,
You are an idiot.
Sincerely,
~A
p.s. And your pal, the Spriggot – ought to just eat sh*t and die.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:58 pmDaryll, I have been operating just fine without your god my whole life. If you need your god to lead you around that’s cool. Whatever. Just stop thinking the rest of us do. Thanks
March 20th, 2008 at 5:58 pmDaryll Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
My point was that you need God’s leadership. You cannot operate without him or his word.
Let’s pretend, Daryll. Ok?
Tomorrow, you wake up, and we have found concrete proof there is no god. How will you live your life without god?
March 20th, 2008 at 5:58 pmDaryll, you are so deluded that I feel sorry for you.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:59 pm“Here we go with the crazy evolution theory.”
Daryll
You mean the one that is strongly supported by the tangible evidences. I myself really dig the DNA stuff.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:59 pmAnd Daryll the troll proves he has a very short attention span:
Daryll – March 20th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
Your last statement only pertains to Catholic priests.
What? Only Catholic priests have been shown to be gay?
And I thought Haggard was an evangelical. Silly me…
March 20th, 2008 at 6:00 pmIt’s not that Drywall speaks a different language, it’s that he lives in a different universe than the rest of us.
I’m speaking, of course, of the character of Drywall, not the actor who types out his words on the screen.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:01 pmDaryll Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Tomorrow, you wake up, and we have found concrete proof there is no god. How will you live your life without god?
That is not sufficient proof.
I didn’t say there was proof, dingleberry, I said PRETEND.
How would you be able to continue your life without god?
March 20th, 2008 at 6:01 pmDaryll,
March 20th, 2008 at 6:02 pmAs always it has been a pleasure. You continue to be my favorite made up person. I’d love to hear more of this but I have to go spread the shellfish amongst the masses.
Daryll Says:
“Tomorrow, you wake up, and we have found concrete proof there is no god. How will you live your life without god?”
That is not sufficient proof.
Translation: (fingers in ears) Lalalalalalalalalalala I can’t hear I cant’ hear you Icanthearyou
March 20th, 2008 at 6:02 pmWho is who? Horton didn’t even accept it on faith. How can you be so arrogant as to beliieve that someone created this universe.
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Here we go with the crazy evolution theory.
Hey Daryll! Are you talking about Horton hearing the Who World?
March 20th, 2008 at 6:03 pmThat is some crazy evolutionary stuff for sure, isn’t it?
Imagine another world so small you can’t even see it.
Kinda just like your old guy in the sky story, huh?
Another display of ignorance by our troll Daryll:
Daryll – March 20th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
[...] unless Catholics are worshipping God instead of Mary[..]
Catholics do not worship Mary, you twit. They prey to hear as an intercessor between men and god (you will probably need to look up intercessor).
March 20th, 2008 at 6:04 pmThis clears up the Republican meaning of Christian Values as Republicans allow Mark Foley to continue to molest kids, Larry Craig to continue to seek men in the men’s room for sex and of course Senator Vitters who continues to hire prostitutes with tax payers money and even gets cheered by GOP Law Makers for his conduct. Yes we even have Federal Judge Edward Naughty Nottingham who has been hiring prostitutes since 1989 and no laws are broken nor any moral charges as he continues to be a Federal Judge. MSNBC even hired a drug addict who lied openly under oath and admitted committing crimes that person is Sara Taylor.
With the current Administration’s new laws many people will be denied their once Constitutional Rights and just as Rome fell so will the United States of America. Just think it took Bush/Cheney only 7 years to destroy a once great country that had lasted for 224 years.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:04 pmdbadass Says:
Daryll,
As always it has been a pleasure. You continue to be my favorite made up person.
Really? Daryll? I’m partial to George Costanza, myself.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:04 pmBy the way Daryll, I need no answer for Judgement Day as there isn’t gonna be one. I am going to live my life, die, and decay. End of story. I have no problem with that
March 20th, 2008 at 6:04 pmdbadass Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
“No it is called coming back to Christ Jesus.”
Daryll
It is impossible to come back to something you were never with
Daryll says:
… If you haven’t followed Acts 2:38 and you are not following his principles then you are currently a child of the devil.
DB, you little devil, you! ;)
March 20th, 2008 at 6:05 pmDaryll Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
I can’t. He is my everything. He is the Alpha and Omega. He is the beginning and the end. He is my way maker. He is my food when I’m hungry. He is my shelter in the time of the storm. THANK YOU, JESUS!!!
Wow. Just wow.
You know what, Daryll? I hope you never realize Pastor Gino is playing with you, because you simply would not survive it.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:06 pmSorry Daryll, I mean no disrespect but most of those that I have met who claim to have been born more than once are a bunch of weak, feeble, and needed losers who need to be lead around through life.
That’s been my perception also. Every born-again I have met was so lacking in self confidence they found they needed to turn their lives over to a “higher authority” to tell them how to think, how to act and what to believe in. They remind me a lot of the Moonies and other people who have joined cults.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:07 pmSomeone should form a study group to determine how many useless wasted hours are spent thinking and talking about homosexuality. Take Daryll for instance. I bet it is years of his life. Hell, maybe it is all of his life. And considering that it is a totally fraudulent argument to begin with… maybe it is fair to say Daryll has no life except a fraudulent one.
From Daryll’s view, on the positive side, Daryll does not have to face himself psychologically, like in therapy, for instance. Why, if he is lucky, and works really hard at it, he might get through his whole life on this fantasy of his. That would certainly beat finding out the truth about his utter sinfulness and having those awful feelings about that. Additionally, the pain of regret for the loss of his real life to a fantasy, because of his deep seated fear, added to the shame and guilt might be overwhelming…
I better stop this! I’m beginning to feel sorry for poor Daryll…
March 20th, 2008 at 6:07 pmDaryll Says:
Here we go with the crazy evolution theory.
evolution:
provable….it is more than a theory that the world is older than 6000 years.
religion:
all faith all the time, interpreted by pat roberson, jimmy jones, hagee, wright, etc.
that is why some call it a crutch. Its like the little white lie you tell your children about how their pet really died…..it means you can’t face life. That you are basically immature and need help coping. It means you are weak. Why else would you take marching orders from Pat robertson?
March 20th, 2008 at 6:08 pmDaryll Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
You’ll see. Do you feel eternal torment for the rest of your life?
I don’t know about the rest of my life but I think the next dozen or so years are gonna suck pretty badly.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:08 pmgoon_golly Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Peter Sprigg does not speak for all conservatives. He certainly doesn’t speak for me, no more than Rev. Wright speaks for all Liberals.
Says the troll who was labeling all Democrats as racists just a few days ago — suddenly so conscious of generalizations and prejudice. Amazing.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:08 pmTomorrow, you wake up, and we have found concrete proof there is no god. How will you live your life without god? Zooey
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That is not sufficient proof. Daryll
Pretty funny statement coming from an adherent to a religion which requires no proof.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:09 pmYou’ve just got to BELIEVE!
(Raise your hands, Daryll, this is a message from god)
I have news for Darryll. His god was actually an alien race who planted us on earth as a science experiment. They aren’t too happy with how we turned out, but have decided to keep their hands off until we get to the point where we are going to completely destroy this beautiful planet, and thus ourselves.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:10 pmSeems to me Daryl (and believe it or not I have spent some time researching this) that Jesus was for people getting along… ya see, HE truly was a uniter- not a divider… and if he did come back, he wouldn’t recognize what you’ve done to his teachings… sorry.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:11 pm“You’ll see. Do you feel eternal torment for the rest of your life?”
No not in the least though I do feel a little bit gassy. I thought it was those tacos I had for lunch but maybe your right maybe that is eternal torment.
Ms Joanne,
You can’t imagine just how right you are!
See ya all. Happy eternal damnation….
March 20th, 2008 at 6:12 pmI knew beforehand that any thread involving the homos would draw Daryll like a moth to a flame, but I am still amazed that at least 50% of the thread is now Daryll v the Heathens.
Awesome.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:13 pmDaryll Says:
What will be your answer during Judgement day?
If there is a god and he is a just god then I am at least on a level playing field with you….
March 20th, 2008 at 6:13 pmDaryll Says:
You’ll see. Do you feel eternal torment for the rest of your life?
Hmm… I could be reading this wrong, But Drywall almost seems to be taunting us. Almost like he will relish our eternal damnation.
But that can’t be. That wouldn’t be very Christian. At least not as I understand the term.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:14 pmI’m with you, Bilbo, except that I’m not so certain they’ll be back.
“There’s no problem to big you can’t run away from…”
rAISE YOUR HANDS IN PR4AISE, dARYLL THUSI HAS BYN ANOTHE MESSAHRG FROM gWAAD
March 20th, 2008 at 6:14 pmHey Darryll, guess who wrote the “bible”? The aliens who planted us here because they thought that we would need a crutch. They are now regretting that decision.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:14 pm^^^^^^^^
March 20th, 2008 at 6:15 pmHeathen.
Daryll Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
Jesus loves me this I know
For the bible tells me so
Little ones to him belong
They are weak, but he is strong.
Grow up, Daryll. Little kids sing that crap in Sunday school when they’re 6.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:16 pmBilbo, Jeez…I think Daryll’s head just exploded!
He just did his Lou Dobbs on Immigration imitation.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:16 pmIt’s the truth Darryll. Otherwise, how do you explain the alien space suits on the ancient figures they have found all over the earth?
I am looking forward to the day they come back and introduce themselves to the Earth. On that day, every born again on the planet’s head will explode.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:17 pmZooey Says:
Grow up, Daryll. Little kids sing that crap in Sunday school when they’re 6.
Yeah, but for some reason it still stirs Drywall’s loins… er… spirit. That’s what i meant to say.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:18 pmI think Mr. Sprigg is one of those guys who, if a gay coupled moved in next door, he’d be spending a lot of time over there. He can’t fight his urges…so he wants the “urges” to go away; a long ways away. Any wagers on if Peter has any OCD or self-mutilation issues? Over/Under at seven on the pairs of ladies garments he has? It’s obvious this guy has issues and he should come out here on TP!!!! Crying and confession is always good for hits…is it not? Lets see Billo “no spin” that.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:18 pmDaryll mocks us, and the true spirit of Christ and all the true teachers and healers of humanity who have gone before.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:18 pmTherein lies his whole reason for posting here.
goon_golly Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Peter Sprigg does not speak for all conservatives. He certainly doesn’t speak for me, no more than Rev. Wright speaks for all Liberals.
Wow, goony – it seems that you and your reichwing pals want it BOTH ways now! From what *I’ve* been hearing – we liberals (and Barack Obama) ALL approve 100% of every single word Pastor Wright says.
So, moronboy, which is it?
Pastor Wright speaks for ALL of us?
…or…
Pastor Wright only speaks for a FEW of us?
Which, by the way, pretty much blows your Obama/Wright theory straight out of the water. ;o)
March 20th, 2008 at 6:18 pmBLASPHEMY!!!!
Listen, I’d had a particularly nice dinner and all I said was ‘That piece of Halibut was good enough for Jehovah’
BLASPHEMY!!!!
March 20th, 2008 at 6:18 pmgummitch Says:
I knew beforehand that any thread involving the homos would draw Daryll like a moth to a flame, but I am still amazed that at least 50% of the thread is now Daryll v the Heathens.
Awesome.
only alternative is to flag him but no one has suggested it.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:19 pmHey Darryll… how can you explain this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazca_Lines
If the aliens weren’t here a long time ago?
March 20th, 2008 at 6:19 pmBLASPHEMY!!!!
Daryll
Can I get you a wonderfully stretchy rack to sit on?
March 20th, 2008 at 6:20 pmHow about a nice waterboard behind your head?
We coming upon Easter, the day Jesus sacrificed his life for our iniquities, and you still support sin..
March 20th, 2008 at 6:21 pmFar be it from me to correct your Xianship, but Good Friday, tomorrow was the day he died.
But then it don’t matter much, cause three days later, he was right back at it!
Daryll Says:
Wrong, I am saved. How about you?
See, Drywall, here’s where you go wrong. You assume you’ve been saved, but you don’t know that for sure. Don’t you think all those poor blasphemers who were taken in by false prophets thought they were saved too?
What makes you so sure that you were lucky enough to choose the right god? The right book? The right savior?
March 20th, 2008 at 6:22 pmonly alternative is to flag him but no one has suggested it.
Aw, come on. We’re having fun here. I even made his head explode.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:23 pmI am not mocking liberals. I care about your souls.
Awww, ain’t that sweet!
Too bad you don’t give a rat’s ass about behaving like a follower of Jesus.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:23 pmDaryll Says:
I am not mocking liberals. I care about your souls.
Wow. You sure have a funny way of showing it.
I mean, generally, when I care about someone I don’t berate them and tell them they’re going to spend eternity in hellfire. But that’s just me.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:24 pmBilbo, could we gin up an online web game called ‘Exploding Xian Heads’??
March 20th, 2008 at 6:24 pmWhat will be your answer during Judgement day?
Fred Says:
If there is a god and he is a just god then I am at least on a level playing field with you….
Daryll Says:
Wrong, I am saved. How about you?
A just god would not make such a determination…..to pass someone who has molested children, commited murder, etc. into heaven just because they believe while a man who has helped people all of his life and tried to live a good, moral life is condemned to hell…..well you surely can see the contradiction.
You hang on to that though if it allows you to be a greedy, immoral person……while stealing from the people you are lying to……it’s called a con.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:25 pmDid good ol’ Oral Roberts make that 5mil or did god call him home? I don’t remember.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:25 pmDaryll Says:
I am not mocking liberals. I care about your souls.
Oh, I think I see now! You care about our souls, but don’t give a sh!t about the rest of us.
Now it makes sense.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:25 pmWe coming upon Easter, the day Jesus sacrificed his life for our iniquities, and you still support sin..He rose to prove that he wasn’t dead and to lead us
Now which was it, he died, or he didn’t die?
March 20th, 2008 at 6:26 pmRUCerious Says:
Bilbo, could we gin up an online web game called ‘Exploding Xian Heads’??
It could be like a blasphemer’s “Left Behind”!
March 20th, 2008 at 6:26 pm……it’s called a con
Exactly, and ReligioRubes like Daryll are the marks that make it all possible.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:27 pmDaryll Says:
The faith is in the evidence of unknown tongues. I received the gift of the Holy Ghost at age 11. By the spirit allowing me to speak in tongues, I am having a personal conversation with God.
Yeah, but how do you KNOW?
Do you not think Satan is powerful enough to appear as the Righteous God and deceive you? It’s worth considering.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:28 pmRUCerious Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
We coming upon Easter, the day Jesus sacrificed his life for our iniquities, and you still support sin..He rose to prove that he wasn’t dead and to lead us
Isn’t that why people lie in state?
March 20th, 2008 at 6:28 pmRalph ~ It could be like a blasphemer’s “Left Behind”!
Kind of like a War of the Next Worlds!
March 20th, 2008 at 6:28 pmDaryll v the Heathens.
Awesome.
only alternative is to flag him but no one has suggested it.
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Daryll is one of the longest lasting, and successful, trolls to ever clog the tubes.
He is in his own nutty niche with the saints, sinners, demons and deviants.
He struts daily out into the coliseum and faces the lions, and as he is shredded into coleslaw he maintains that god will save him.
He will save you, Daryll, for another go-around the wheel. Maybe you’ll have done your karmic been there done that in the slaughtered sheep routine, and next time you’ll be back as a spiritually rich man living in a hole in the rocks.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:29 pmFred Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
we need a fairness doctrine back in full force. There seems to be no other way to counter the barrage of lies that come out of these people’s mouths.
Awesome commentary, Fred. The only clear signals AM radio picks up are that of country music and wingnut radio. Like health care, radio is broken and needs a solution by the people. And our government should implement that.
Hope you had a good day at work.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:29 pmI’ve spoken in tongues too, then fell into a drunken stupor. Tequila, mmmmmmmm.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:29 pmBut they are already Left Behind…in thinking ability, in intelligence, in ability to reason.
Far, far behind.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:30 pmRUCerious Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
Bilbo, could we gin up an online web game called ‘Exploding Xian Heads’??
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They can be defeated by playing old Led Zeppelin albums through loudspeakers…
March 20th, 2008 at 6:31 pmAs long as you repent and follow Acts 2:38…
How about if I just pent and follow Crom 6:66.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:32 pmThey can be defeated by playing old Led Zeppelin albums through loudspeakers…
nevar, I thought it was bad country western yodeling?
March 20th, 2008 at 6:33 pm(Mars Attacks)…
Nevar Says:
Daryll is one of the longest lasting, and successful, trolls to ever clog the tubes.
He is in his own nutty niche with the saints, sinners, demons and deviants.
That’s because he made the wise creative choice to be a Christofascist troll, which not only opened up an enormous trove of unprovable talking points, but it also requires NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER.
Those poor merely “political” trolls like Gigi and Rotgut Gin can get boxed in by facts if they’re not careful. Drywall doesn’t have to worry about that. He’s always go his “Get Out of Contradiction Free” card in his wallet.
Hell, he doesn’t even have to follow the teachings of Jesus if he doesn’t want to. Obviously.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:33 pmAll kinds of people push religion:
March 20th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
Daryll Says:
I know it is not satan. God has given me the gift of prophecy in dreams. I do know that I cannot receive this gift through satan.
But HOW do you know that it was God gave you the gift of prophecy in dreams? Satan can trick you through dreams too, you know.
Was it in a dream that “God” told you that Mike Huckabee would be the next President? If so, I’d start wondering about that voice next time it popped into my dreams. Id’ have a few had questions for it.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:37 pmDaryll, one more question for you.
Scroll to the top of the TP site and look at the flag.
Right in the center, toward the bottom, is that a big dick hanging down??
March 20th, 2008 at 6:37 pmAre you hacking into this site and pornografying it?
They can be defeated by playing old Led Zeppelin albums through loudspeakers…
Satanist music.
Works every time.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:39 pmDaryll Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Do not feel sorry for me. I feel sorry for you unless you follow Acts 2:38. I guess you want to go to place that is full of fire and brimstone for eternity.
Trust me Daryll, I don’t feel sorry for you! That was a facetious remark, and that you could not see that, is a testament to you life of fantasy. You have no life Daryll. You quit life for a fantasy from which you haven’t the courage or the strength to deny.
As far as you feeling sorry for me. Well, that is sheer nonsense. You couldn’t care less about me, and you know it. That, in spite of all your bible thumping quotes. You are just doing what you are told even though you have no grasp of the real meaning behind the bible you quote. Your problem, Daryll, is that you know you are a phony, but you are just to weak willed to admit it. The more you are attacked the more you panic and respond. That means your hell is right now, of your own making. And down deep, if you ever dared to stop your mantra, you you would have to admit that as well. A dead man grasping at fantasy to resurrect his dead existence.
I’ve been there and done that, Daryll. It’s a huge mountain, I know
March 20th, 2008 at 6:39 pmFRC: I ‘prefer’ to ‘export homosexuals’ from the U.S.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:40 pmwe believe homosexuality is destructive to society,” said Sprigg.
unbelievable…What kind of a person is Sprigg??? Under what rock did he crawl out from?
Karel will surly bring up this topic tonight @ 10pm Pacific time on KGO.com that is if he can pull himself away from his pro Hillary support.
**********Had Hussein Enough**********
RUCerious Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
nevar, I thought it was bad country western yodeling?
(Mars Attacks)…
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I don’t think the religio wackos in our world today are from Mars, I think they’re from someplace a lot further away. Like spit out from a black hole somewhere…
March 20th, 2008 at 6:43 pmWell, I guess just the sight of that big dick sticking out of the TP flag caused daryll to go do something else…
March 20th, 2008 at 6:44 pmMerlin
March 20th, 2008 at 6:39 pm
The definitive description of the “saved” or “born again:” Weak willed.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:44 pmMore Repuglican Hypocrisy: Bible Belt States Have the Highest Divorce Rates. And they Worry About Gay Marriage?
Christian conservatives are hellbent on keeping gays from marrying, saying such same-sex unions are an affront to the great institution of marriage, threatening the very social, emotional and legal fabric which binds a man and woman in holy matrimony. Ironically however, it’s these very same bible-thumpers who have the highest divorce rates in the country. The Bible Belt is the breeding ground for broken marriage.
Despite this fact, the right wing evangelical fanatics like to point to states like “liberal” Massachusetts, holding it up as some sort of Sodom and Gomorrah. To the contrary, Massachusetts has the lowest divorce rate in the country at 2.4 per 1,000 population.
According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the states with the highest divorce rates are to be found in the Bible Belt, where they exceed by 50% the national average of 4.2 per thousand people. The 10 Southern states with some of the highest divorce rates were Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, Oklahoma, North and South Carolina, Florida, Arizona and Texas. By comparison nine states in the Northeast– where allegedly amoral, faithless, Volvo-driving, Birkenstock-wearing, NY Times-reading lefties are found–were among those with the lowest divorce rates: Connecticut, Massachusetts, Maine, New Hampshire, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Vermont and Rhode Island.
Perhaps these born-again Christians should actually practice what they preach. Family values? Now that’s a joke.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:46 pmDaryll, dont you see how religion is used by fanatics to promote empire and world hegemony and war?
Hitler caused much death in the name of the lord. When people start thinking they are doing the work of GOD by condemning others, killing and imprisoning them, they are worse sinners than those who they deemed sinners.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:47 pmDaryll has spent an hour and a half here so far and hasn’t converted one soul. He might do better going door to door with his bible
March 20th, 2008 at 6:47 pmIt’s the pushy salesmen like Daryll that drove me away from the church.
Does anyone else think Daryll would be most vulnerable to someone planting a tiny receiver in his braces while he slept, and then speaking to him via radio, using his entire head as a giant speaker, like in Real Genius?
I bet you could totally get him to buy you beer and porn.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:47 pmGenius, Ralph, sheer genius!
March 20th, 2008 at 6:49 pmZooey Says:
The definitive description of the “saved” or “born again:” Weak willed.
Hi Zooey,
All too true! And it might be seen as “born again”=dead, for dead you must be, to be “reborn.” It is in my view an admittance of emotional death, and the “rebirth” of a robot. (No offense to the robots.)
March 20th, 2008 at 6:53 pmMy old Fundie friend (”Jesus is coming any day”) calls George Carlin the Angry Atheist but I thought Carlin’s take on the Bible was spot on:
March 20th, 2008 at 6:57 pm“The Bible is a collection of documents written long ago by religious and political leaders to CONTROL PEOPLE.”
And he boils the 10 commandments down to 3. Don’t kill, don’t steal and don’t lie to people.
The only good parts are common to all religions.
Hillel said
“That which is hateful to you, do not do to others. All the rest is commentary.”
Merlin Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
Hi Zooey,
All too true! And it might be seen as “born again”=dead, for dead you must be, to be “reborn.” It is in my view an admittance of emotional death, and the “rebirth” of a robot. (No offense to the robots.)
Exactly, Merlin. My bro-in-law has said virtually the same thing as our Daryll — that he couldn’t survive without Jesus/God guiding his life, and he wondered aloud how I lived day to day without Jesus in my heart.
I said, “Are you f_cking kidding me?” He hasn’t said 12 words to me since. I view it as a plus. ;)
March 20th, 2008 at 7:01 pmI said, “Are you f_cking kidding me?” He hasn’t said 12 words to me since. I view it as a plus. ;)
ROFLMAO!!! I sure wish you’d had a camera to take a picture of his face at that moment@!@!
March 20th, 2008 at 7:04 pmMy brother is researching a never ending book, how nearly every war in recorded history has a religious bent to it.
He’ll never finish it, but the galleys make great reading. He’s quite thorough.
March 20th, 2008 at 7:05 pmWhenever the born again la la landers are directly confronted with the totally fallacy of their belief system, they crumble and withdraw further into their little void.
March 20th, 2008 at 7:08 pmRUCerious Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
I said, “Are you f_cking kidding me?” He hasn’t said 12 words to me since. I view it as a plus. ;)
ROFLMAO!!! I sure wish you’d had a camera to take a picture of his face at that moment@!@!
I do, too. Heh. I thought he was going to cry.
March 20th, 2008 at 7:09 pm“I used to be messed up on drugs. Now I am messed up on the Lord…”
Can’t remember who’s bit that is, but love it.
Dang, is it 4:20 yet? Can’t take this righteous BS much longer…
-Crazy Hussein Cat Lady
March 20th, 2008 at 7:09 pmRUCerious Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
My brother is researching a never ending book, how nearly every war in recorded history has a religious bent to it.
He’ll never finish it, but the galleys make great reading. He’s quite thorough.
I’ve carried the notion that the religious excuses for warfare have been the cover-up for what has always been simply a grab of resources from people less fortunate and unable to defend themselves and their resources.
March 20th, 2008 at 7:11 pmDaryll Says: I believe in the Magical Invisible Faerie in the Sky and he talks to me in my dreams…..
You are a delusional fool. Mr. Magical Invisible Faerie does not exist, moron. You can lie to yourself all you want, but in the end when you die, it is over, you will become just dust, your “soul” died when your body died.
And you are secretly gay, and we all know it.
March 20th, 2008 at 7:12 pmBuckie Boy Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
Daryll Says: I believe in the Magical Invisible Faerie in the Sky and he talks to me in my dreams…..
Makes you wonder how our Daryll dealt with wet dreams…
March 20th, 2008 at 7:16 pmDang, is it 4:20 yet? Can’t take this righteous BS much longer…
-Crazy Hussein Cat Lady
it’s been 4:20 here since 8:30 this morning……heh.
March 20th, 2008 at 7:20 pmZooey Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 7:01 pm
Exactly, Merlin. My bro-in-law has said virtually the same thing as our Daryll — that he couldn’t survive without Jesus/God guiding his life, and he wondered aloud how I lived day to day without Jesus in my heart.
I said, “Are you f_cking kidding me?” He hasn’t said 12 words to me since. I view it as a plus. ;)
Yours is a “magic statement”! It drives away the demon who appears like a saint. I’m reminded of a cartoon from Playboy where a priest, in confronting a Dracula like figure, is holding a cross up to him. Dracula cringes behind his black cloak in the face of the almighty power of the cross. But then… Dracula produces a large phallic dildo and thrusts it at the priest, who then cringes behind his robes in the face of the power and reality of sex, which he is frightened to death of.
A powerful visual that is all too true in the real world (not to mention how funny it is!)
March 20th, 2008 at 7:20 pmNevar Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
I’ve carried the notion that the religious excuses for warfare have been the cover-up for what has always been simply a grab of resources from people less fortunate and unable to defend themselves and their resources.
I’m inclined to the belief that virtually all wars are about grabbing resources, whether that be land, oil, gold, slaves (all too common) — even GoodWars™ like the American Revolution are ultimately about resources and who controls them. Humans never really go to war to right wrongs, although they (hint hint) gussy them up to look that way.
March 20th, 2008 at 7:29 pmFred I’m soooo jealous!
Won’t be for me again until Easter morning – gave it up for Lent, and I don’t even go to church anymore!!! What WAS I thinking??
I needed the break. A very interesting experience that I don’t think I’ll ever repeat. :)
-C Hussein CL
March 20th, 2008 at 7:32 pmgummitch Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
Nevar Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
I’ve carried the notion that the religious excuses for warfare have been the cover-up for what has always been simply a grab of resources from people less fortunate and unable to defend themselves and their resources.
I’m inclined to the belief that virtually all wars are about grabbing resources, whether that be land, oil, gold, slaves (all too common) — even GoodWars™ like the American Revolution are ultimately about resources and who controls them. Humans never really go to war to right wrongs, although they (hint hint) gussy them up to look that way.
Somehow I believe that religious wars (like some of those from Rome) were more about subjugation, rather than resources. Unless you consider “people” resources which I don’t.)
March 20th, 2008 at 7:36 pmFirst they came for the Homosexuals, and I did not speak out -
because I was not a Homosexual.
Then they came for the Free Thinkers, and I did not speak out – because I was not a Free Thinker.
Then they came for the Liberals, and I did not speak out – because I was not a Liberal.
Then they came for me – and there was no one left to speak for me.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the FRC: neo-Nazism made in the good ol’ USA.
Just saying . . .
March 20th, 2008 at 7:39 pmUnless you consider “people” resources which I don’t.
I don’t, either, but big corporations do. That’s why they did away with calling them “Personnel” departments and started calling them “Human Resources” departments. To them, a person is just a tool for doing business, like a laptop computer, only not as smart and lots more expensive. I hate Corporations.
March 20th, 2008 at 7:40 pmAs I sit here, watching my favorite sporting event, drinking Michelob Light, I’d like to address two things:
March 20th, 2008 at 7:44 pm1) Zooey mentioned “what if” we woke up tomorrow and there was proof of no “god”. I would still live my life as if there was, meaning I would take care of my family, and I would always help the poor.
2) This thread is about the unChristian thought of deporting those we disagree with. WFT is that??? Heck, when can we reintroduce slavery, since it’s mentioned in the Old Testament.(snark!!)
I’m sorry (and a little buzzed), buy when did Christianity include loving thy neighbor only when they are of the same color and sexuality???
Unless you consider “people” resources which I don’t.)
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In the not so distant past, human labor was needed to extract and process the natural resources. The subjugated peoples became a resource and were made to adhere to a particular religion, giving more control to the conquerors.
March 20th, 2008 at 7:44 pmIn the modern age, a few men, and a few more men with weapons, plus lots of machinery, can pillage a country’s resources very quickly.
I fully support exporting rethuglicans and Neo-Cons. Does Hell have room? Or maybe their good friends in Saudi will take them.
March 20th, 2008 at 7:46 pmThat’s why they did away with calling them “Personnel” departments and started calling them “Human Resources” departments.
Wayne A. Schneider
LOL, all of my issues as an employee are referred to the office of “Human Capital Management”
March 20th, 2008 at 7:48 pmSomehow I believe that religious wars (like some of those from Rome) were more about subjugation, rather than resources. Unless you consider “people” resources which I don’t.)
March 20th, 2008 at 7:49 pmBut the Romans did, slave labor was very big… what’s more the Romans were very relaxed about what went on in their territories as long as Rome received a tribute…
I suppose one could argue that the Crusades were more about subjugation then about resources but I tend to agree with gummitch that even these were about control of the trade routes from the East- hence resources.
DRxJ Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
As I sit here, watching my favorite sporting event, drinking Michelob Light, I’d like to address two things:
1) Zooey mentioned “what if” we woke up tomorrow and there was proof of no “god”. I would still live my life as if there was, meaning I would take care of my family, and I would always help the poor.
That’s the answer I was looking for, my friend. I knew Daryll didn’t have it in him. :-)
March 20th, 2008 at 7:51 pmDRxJ Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
As I sit here, watching my favorite sporting event, drinking Michelob Light, I’d like to address two things:
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Point of clarification, DRxJ…
When I read the above comment, does it mean you consider “Drinking Michelob Light” to be your favorite sporting event, OR, are you drinking Michelob WHILE watching your favorite sporting event?
If you actually consider “Drinking Michelob Light” a sporting activity, I must say I’m intrigued. Tell me more… what sort of rules does this game have? And what’s the objective? And does drinking other brands of beer count?
I mean, we could have whole classes in this sport: porters, pale ales, stouts…
I think this idea has SERIOUS merit!
March 20th, 2008 at 7:54 pmI mean, we could have whole classes in this sport: porters, pale ales, stouts…
pilsner vaulting…
March 20th, 2008 at 7:59 pmbelac Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
Somehow I believe that religious wars (like some of those from Rome) were more about subjugation, rather than resources. Unless you consider “people” resources which I don’t.)
But the Romans did, slave labor was very big… what’s more the Romans were very relaxed about what went on in their territories as long as Rome received a tribute…
I suppose one could argue that the Crusades were more about subjugation then about resources but I tend to agree with gummitch that even these were about control of the trade routes from the East- hence resources.
The Crusades (which one?) were pretty complex. For some of the Crusaders there was definitely a sincere religious element. For the various Popes, it was a mixture of power and religion. But not only trade was at stake, especially in the early years; a lot of Crusaders stuck around and created kingdoms for themselves, which was certainly about controlling resources–and attempting to control those resources into the future.
As others have noted, people comprised the greatest resource of the time: labor (manual and skilled), battle fodder, and wealth (taxes, food, etc.).
March 20th, 2008 at 8:00 pmZooey.
You’re the best! Love you!
Republic of Stupidity.
March 20th, 2008 at 8:01 pmWell, if I was in college, drinking Michelob Light would be a sporting activity.
Be that as it may, and as I’m soon to be 42, let’s just say that actually attaining a day off to watch March Madness, and consuming Michelob Light in the process, and my wife agreeing to said events, in itself a “victory” for the old man!!!
See? Goood idea, Nevar.
We could have singles competitions, doubles, mixed doubles (beer AND snacks), relay teams.
We could go for speed, distance, weight…
We could have International Competitions… bet the Czechs would do good in this… mebbe even competitive leagues!
March 20th, 2008 at 8:02 pmThe Republic of Stupidity Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
If you actually consider “Drinking Michelob Light” a sporting activity, I must say I’m intrigued. Tell me more… what sort of rules does this game have? And what’s the objective? And does drinking other brands of beer count?
I mean, we could have whole classes in this sport: porters, pale ales, stouts…
I think this idea has SERIOUS merit!
No activity involving the consumption of Michelob Light can be considered “serious” on any level.
March 20th, 2008 at 8:03 pmDRxJ, I hafta agree wi’tcha… definitely a victory…
March 20th, 2008 at 8:04 pmWell, okay, so the Michelob division would be somewhat akin to T-ball.
But think of the possibilities w/ OTHER, more serious beers…
March 20th, 2008 at 8:05 pmWe could go for speed, distance, weight…
or in the shot put event, quantity…
March 20th, 2008 at 8:05 pmHeh. I was waiting for gummitch to weigh in on the “light beer” issue. :-D
March 20th, 2008 at 8:07 pmNevar… you have an EVIL mind, which is why I like having you around… :-)!
March 20th, 2008 at 8:07 pmand I don’t even drink….. whoohoohoohahahaha…..
March 20th, 2008 at 8:11 pmThese beer competitions sound like a big chunk of my life, frankly. Oregon Brewers Festival, Real Ale Festival, hanging out with my beer geek friends in various parts of the world . . .
March 20th, 2008 at 8:14 pmMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
March 20th, 2008 at 8:18 pmBeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrr!!
I’m okay with all the beer olympics, just don’t get off into another snarkfest, people.
I’m serious about this.
March 20th, 2008 at 8:20 pmSo?
March 20th, 2008 at 8:20 pmUmmmmm….
March 20th, 2008 at 8:21 pmat 41, and in reasonably good shape, the “light” factor has to weigh in when consuming barley and hops.
Don’t want to increase the “mid shape” tire, if ya know what I mean.
I know this is the homophobe thread but breaking news out of Washington DC. Barack Obama’s passport record file was breached by 3 contract workers in January. The unauthorized file access tripped several alarms within the system. When they couldn’t give a legitimate answer as to why they did this a supervisor was called in. Two of the contract workers were fired and the other was disciplined. The bigger questions are who did they access this for and why has it taken 2 months for it to get out? K.O. is reporting on it now.
March 20th, 2008 at 8:23 pmDon’t… get off… into another SNARK-fest???
From the Llama??? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…
“Whatever you do, don’t toss me into that SNARK patch over there.”
– Sez Brer Llama…
March 20th, 2008 at 8:49 pmI hate to bring a snarky thread back on topic, but, here are a few thoughts from a former evangelical.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/obamas-minister-committe_b_91774.html
March 20th, 2008 at 8:52 pmBTW, when the Daryll-troll shows up, again, remind it that one can’t claim moral superiority from a position of intellectual inferiority.
March 20th, 2008 at 8:57 pmDarylls prophecies about who would become the president were wrong.
March 20th, 2008 at 9:03 pmXisithrus Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Darylls prophecies about who would become the president were wrong.
Thanx for the reminder X. So, did God lie to Daryll or did Daryll lie to us?
March 20th, 2008 at 9:18 pmPete & Zep,
I asked Daryll about God being wrong about Huckabee being president, and he just tossed off that God had a different plan for Huck.
How conveeeenient.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:52 pmDid God happen to tell Daryll what that plan was?
March 20th, 2008 at 10:57 pmNo?
How convenient….
Zooey Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Pete & Zep,
I asked Daryll about God being wrong about Huckabee being president, and he just tossed off that God had a different plan for Huck.
How conveeeenient.
That’s about what I figured. It must be hard to live as a slave to Jesus. All the lying would lead me to rebellion.
March 20th, 2008 at 11:01 pmGet in line Zooey. I have asked the Huckabee question numerous times to no response. Still I wish he would just advise me as to my shellfish dilemma.
Pretty good freegan action tonight!
March 20th, 2008 at 11:57 pmReading posts by Daryll reminds me of the saying:
“JESUS, SAVE ME FROM YOUR FOLLOWERS.”
March 21st, 2008 at 1:03 am.
HA! Castro beat FRC to the punch.
Good Communist Countries always export their undesirables.
Fearless Fascist Nations imprison their undesirables(see Gitmo).
Here we have someone who “CLAIMS” to be a Patriotic citizen of the U.S.A. acting to undermine the very FREEDOMS that have defined what it means to be an American.
R E M E M B E R:
THEY(sic) HATE US FOR OUR FREEDOMS…
And so they lobby and debate the merits to undermining those very Freedoms.
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March 21st, 2008 at 1:27 amThanx for the reminder X. So, did God lie to Daryll or did Daryll lie to us?
Daryll did not tell himself the truth as he allowed his personal beliefs to decide.
March 22nd, 2008 at 9:17 pmYours is a “magic statement”! It drives away the demon who appears like a saint.sohbet
March 28th, 2009 at 9:35 pmBedava mp3 indir
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I’m reminded of a cartoon from Playboy where a priest, in confronting a Dracula like figure, is holding a cross up to him. Dracula cringes behind his black cloak in the face of the almighty power of the cross.