Lieberman forced to correct McCain…again.
For the second time during their taxpayer-funded overseas trip, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) was forced to correct Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) after he made an incorrect statement. Speaking in Israel yesterday, McCain referred to the Jewish holiday Purim as “their version of Halloween.” After McCain spoke, Lieberman stepped in and gingerly took blame for McCain’s mistake, saying that he had given McCain the false impression of the holiday’s meaning. NBC’s Mark Murray writes:
McCain’s mistake wasn’t a big deal. But what is interesting…is Lieberman’s role during this trip. In two days, Lieberman has intervened twice in front of the press — once helping McCain with a correction on Sunnis/Shiites and once putting the blame on himself regarding the description of Purim.
Purim actually “commemorates a time when the Jewish people living in Persia were saved from extermination.” (HT: HuffPo)
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How stupid are you to confuse a dress-up holiday with an extermination ?
And this is the senile old moron the trolls want to succeed Chimpy’s disastrous presidency ?
Good Grief…………
March 20th, 2008 at 2:03 pmMcCain is another alzheimer puppethead like Reagan was
i mean how much more obvious does it have to get before you see that the shadow PNAC are pulling the strings?
this is straight out of star wars
March 20th, 2008 at 2:03 pm(Psssssssssst, McCain… you’re not fit for office… )
March 20th, 2008 at 2:03 pmMethinks we’re seeing an audition for a running mate…
maybe more like a pilot episode. They’re gonna see how it does in the ratings before they commit to a full season.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:04 pmIn other words, McCain’s “straight talk” means that the words go straight from his lungs to his lips, without ever getting near the brain.
Sounds a lot like our current president.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:04 pmi think he’s found his vp running mate.
:)
March 20th, 2008 at 2:05 pm#6 - joe cantwell Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
“i think he’s found his vp running mate.”
Oh, I really hope so! It would be the final straw that would forever break his candidacy!
March 20th, 2008 at 2:06 pmMcCain’s Brain
March 20th, 2008 at 2:07 pm.
The McLIEBERMAN took the fall for McDementia on this one.
FOLKS, the Jew on the Zion tour can’t even get his Holly-daze correct!
Can we call this the McINSANITY TOUR?
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March 20th, 2008 at 2:08 pm.
GiGi,
Was McLIEBERMAN incorrect then?
Is it a dress up Holly-daze? A celibration of the dead?
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March 20th, 2008 at 2:11 pmgood_golly Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
“It is in a sense because the kids dress up and it’s a very happy holiday and actually it is in the sense that the sweets are very important of both holidays.”
The “sweets” of Halloween mean what in comparison to earning a reprieve from extermination , you stupid twit ?
March 20th, 2008 at 2:11 pmgood_golly Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
“It is in a sense because the kids dress up and it’s a very happy holiday and actually it is in the sense that the sweets are very important of both holidays.”
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Give me a break. Nice spin, but it fails miserably.
How about this one: Easter and Halloween are pretty much the same holiday, because the kids get to eat candy.
…except for that whole resurection thing!!!
March 20th, 2008 at 2:12 pmWow. Our next installed president is going to be Michael Scott from The Office.
That’s just frightening.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:13 pm10 cents a post. That is what the troll gets paid. 10 cents a post.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:14 pmGolly goofy is getting pretty desperate.
Its really sad, in a pathetic kind of way.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:14 pmIsn’t it obvious that Joe (I-Israel) Liebernam is auditioning and practicing for veep?
March 20th, 2008 at 2:16 pmgood_golly Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Purim is a lot like Halloween. Read this description.
Scary, hairy and just right for Purim.
What part of Halloween is a celebration of a reprieve from utter annihilation , you retard ?
March 20th, 2008 at 2:16 pmgood_golly Says:
Purim is a lot like Halloween. Read this description.
Gigi, McSame really needs to get you on his campaign staff. He clearly needs someone with your kind of resources to explain to him the truthiness about Iran and al Qaeda and about Jewish traditions.
You could correct all of Holy Joe Lieberman’s misconceptions about the Jewish faith.
Of course, it would probably cut down considerably on your trolling time here… I guess that’s a trade-off we’re going to have to learn to live with.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:17 pmI see our other resisdent twit is here offering insightful commentary on McCain’s Stupidity. Hey GiGi, back in your hole Troll, and don’t come back out. Where’s Daryll btw? I thought he’d be here by now.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:17 pmBoth McSenile and Holy Joe are TRAITORS to the USA, just like MURDERER Bush the COXUCKER punk TRAITOR.
“WHO’S ’sane’, HUSSEIN?
March 20th, 2008 at 2:18 pmNOT ‘Bomb Bomb Iran’ McCain!!”
.#14 good_golly Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
An article about how kids dress up on Purim is in no way a solid explaination as to why Purim is akin to All Hallows eve other than the “dress up” part and tricks and treats.
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March 20th, 2008 at 2:18 pmgood_golly Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Purim is a lot like Halloween. Read this description.
Yes, and Christmas is a one-day sale at Macy’s.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:18 pmgood_golly Says:
The historical roots of the holidays are different, but the celebrations are so much alike that Purin is often referred to as the Jewish Halloween. Try reading up on it.
Don’t tell us, Gigi. Tell Joe Lieberman.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:19 pmgoon_golly, full time ballwasher, full time apologist.
For Republicans and Liebermans.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:20 pmgood_golly Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
“The carnival like festivities of the celebration include parades, costume wearing, beauty contests, gift giving and drinking, so it has become known as the Jewish Mardi Gras or Jewish Halloween.”
Obviously , your reading and comprehension ability matches your political party affiliation ; it sucks balls.
“So it has become known as” means the same thing as saying/claiming “it is” the Jewish Mardi Gras or Jewish Halloween ?
March 20th, 2008 at 2:20 pmLieberman is becoming McCain’s “Nancy Reagan.” To celebrate Purim. maybe Joe should dress up for the part, a one act play in dementia.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:22 pmgummitch Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
goon_golly, full time ballwasher, full time apologist.
For Republicans and Liebermans.
now, now gg’s writing an e-mail to lieberman explaining purim to him as we speak.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:22 pmAnother remake of the Odd Couple but in RePUG fashion you make one of them brimming with alzhiemers.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:23 pmgiobravo Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Lieberman is becoming McCain’s “Nancy Reagan.” To celebrate Purim. maybe Joe should dress up for the part, a one act play in dementia.
Lieberman was already playing dress-up and in character ; he was pretending to be a Democratic politician……….
March 20th, 2008 at 2:24 pmIt must be really frustrating to be as smart and well-informed as Gigi and have to watch as her candidate stumbles over mistakes that aren’t really mistakes.
To think that McCain didn’t have to backtrack on his al Qaeda-Iran gaffe nor should Lieberman have taken shrapnel for his BFF over Holy Joe’s misunderstanding of his own religious tradition…
must kill you, eh, Gigi?
March 20th, 2008 at 2:25 pmIt’s obvious that McCain has never read the book of Esther. In addition to avoiding looking like a complete fool to the Jews, he might want to brush up on the bible a bit to avoid looking like a complete fool to the evangelical right — a group he is openly pandering to.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:26 pmI am Jewish and I’m sorry, good_golly, you simply don’t know what you’re talking about. Yes there is dressing up, or can be, and yes there’s fun because we mock Haman, the would-be mass murderer in the Purim story. But the whole point of Purim is to read the story of Queen Esther saving the Persian Jews from extermination. Yes, it’s raucus, but it’s not Halloween, and if you had bothered to read the Haaretz article you so thoughtfully linked you’d see that what’s happening is American Halloween is influencing Purim, but that doesn’t remotely make the holidays equivalent.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:26 pmBush, McSenile, and LIEberFuk–
The unamerikkkan TRAITORS to the USA.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:26 pmActually, Halloween is the explanation of Purim to Goys.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:26 pmgood_golly Says:
Purim - The Jewish Halloween.
Again, Gigi — don’t tell us, tell Joe Lieberman. He’s the one with whom you have an argument over this.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:27 pmgood_golly Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Purim is a joyful spring holiday that features a festive meal, gift-giving, costumes, noisemakers in the synagogue, and required drunkenness. Purim is thus sometimes nicknamed “the Jewish Mardi Gras” or “the Jewish Halloween.”
Stop posting your ridiculous , insipid piss , you moron.
Since when does a “nickname” mean it’s in any way tangible and/or become the same thing ?
March 20th, 2008 at 2:27 pmAnd if you believe that Lieberman misinformed McCain, I have a bridge to sell you. Lieberman is Jewish. Is he telling the world that he doesn’t know what the Jewish holidays are? What is he saying about himself, if that’s the truth?
March 20th, 2008 at 2:27 pmOT - How long will Sen. McCains’ war in Iran last? Any quesses for “six months”???
March 20th, 2008 at 2:27 pmGiGi, are you really that Clueless? It might have some of the chareteristics of Halloween insofar as costumes, food and drink. But you and McCain both completly miss the point and reason for the holiday. Get a grip and a clue troll.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:27 pmPURIM
Background
Purim is a holiday of revelry and Carnival-spirit in early spring that celebrates Jewish deliverance from the threat of anti-Semitism and annihilation. The festival, based on “events” described in the Biblical Book of Esther, reads like an ancient soap opera. Esther, a Jewish girl raised by her uncle Mordecai in Shushan in Persia, marries King Ahasuerus when the former Queen Vashti refuses to obey him. But Esther does not reveal at first that she is Jewish. …
How we celebrate Purim
The centerpiece of the Purim celebration is the Megillah reading, or recitation of the Purim story, that is interrupted with the sound of noisemakers, or groggers, whenever evil Haman’s name is spoken. It is customary to blot out Haman’s name, and in some circles, even to drink enough wine during the proceedings so as not to tell the difference between Haman and Mordecai! These customs most likely long predate Purim and the Book of Esther and hearken from older festivals that mark the change of seasons and a desire to expel evil spirits which might be near.
— from http://citycongregation.org/index.php?pageID=0050
Are your Purim celebrations that much different?
March 20th, 2008 at 2:28 pmLooks as if Goof_Jelly wants to be McSenile’s Dana Perino…..She’s certainly just as stupid and full of shit as Perino is.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:31 pmHey folks, please flag GiGi for spamming. We got rid of a couple of other trolls in the last couple of days. If we flag GiGi often enough, maybe TP will wake up and make it go away.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:32 pmI wonder…does smokin’ Joe sit next to McSame at dinner and dut up his meat for him, too?
I wonder…who does that for gi-gi?
March 20th, 2008 at 2:32 pm(If I could edit that, I’d also highlight “and hearken from older festivals that mark the change of seasons and a desire to expel evil spirits which might be near” which sounds a LOT like All Hallows’ Eve.)
March 20th, 2008 at 2:32 pmtom Says:
I wonder…does smokin’ Joe sit next to McSame at dinner and dut up his meat for him, too?
I wonder…who does that for gi-gi?
I think Gigi’s not allowed solid food yet.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:33 pmhussein toasterhead Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
good_golly Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Purim is a lot like Halloween. Read this description.
Yes, and Christmas is a one-day sale at Macy’s.
What’s your point? ;)
March 20th, 2008 at 2:35 pmI USED to believe that McBombBomb was honorable.
But he stayed SILENT during the swiftboating of Kerry.
As well as the AWOL coward Bush starting an ILLEGAL WAR based upon LIES, which he STILL SUPPORTS.
McCain is just another TRAITOR, just like MURDERER Bush the COXUCKER punk TRAITOR to the USA.
“WHO’S ’sane’, HUSSEIN?
March 20th, 2008 at 2:36 pmNOT ‘Bomb Bomb Iran’ McCain!!”
Halloween is a far superior holiday to Easter. Ask any 5 year old.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:36 pmgood_golly Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Purim is a joyful spring holiday that features a festive meal, gift-giving, costumes, noisemakers in the synagogue, and required drunkenness. Purim is thus sometimes nicknamed “the Jewish Mardi Gras” or “the Jewish Halloween.”
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I have no doubt that some might call Purim by these names because of the masquerade common denominator. I’m somewhat skeptical that Jews would compare their holiday to Mardi Gras (a Christian observance) or Halloween (a Christian observance incorporating pagan customs). Since McCain was speaking in Israel, this would be about as politically correct as a politician from a Muslim country coming to the United States and comparing Christmas to Eid al-Fitr.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:36 pmThose nerves and synapses running between McShame’ brain and his mouth are totally out of whack. I don’t know which side is most screwed up.
Good thing Lieberman is there to clean up McCain’s little mouth poops.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:37 pmSouthern Man — You think Nader can improve on his point-three-eight-of-a-percent showing from 2004? I’d say he’s peaked.
Me, I’m just hoping people see through McCain and defeat him. But nitpicking about holidays isn’t the way to do it.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:38 pmOff Topic,
Why is God so angry at Middle America lately? ie: all that flooding and more to come.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:39 pmMcConfused and his every trusty Joeman Shepherd dog.
Oy.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:39 pmLieberman and McCain — the modern day version of Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy . . .
Just saying.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:40 pmmissmolly Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
leave it to our missmolly to inject some reason and sense into the discussion.
Here I was having a good time playing Whack-A-Troll™ with a particularly slow yet resilient varmint, when missmolly posts and makes so much more sense than everyone else put together that it shames me.
But only for a minute. Now, where’d I put that mallet?
March 20th, 2008 at 2:40 pmSouthern Man Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
did you know that gg knows more about purim than joe lieberman?
#10, #14, #18, #21, #24, #33 and last, but not least, #35.
all that googling and he still hasn’t found a friend :(
will you be his friend southern man?
March 20th, 2008 at 2:42 pmHalloween is a far superior holiday to Easter. Ask any 5 year old.
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Exactly.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:42 pmWe can wear outrageous attire instead of the stuffy suit and tie which we get spanked for if we don’t hang them up properly afterwards.
We can make up outrageous stories about who we are, and a different one for every year; instead of having to sit for hours listening to the same old outrageous lie we hear year after year.
And the candy is better by far…………
good_golly Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Purim is a joyful spring holiday that features a festive meal, gift-giving, costumes, noisemakers in the synagogue, and required drunkenness. Purim is thus sometimes nicknamed “the Jewish Mardi Gras” or “the Jewish Halloween.”
You’ve left out the most important part: reading the Purim Meghillah (scroll/story) which tells the story of Queen Esther saving Persia’s Jews. People don’t just go to the synagogue with noisemakers; the noisemakers are sued to drown out the name of genocidal “Haman.” And it doesn’t matter what it’s nicknamed and by whom. The point is that it is not either one of those, especially not Halloween.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:43 pmWow, GiGi put on a one-troll frenzy here. Guess he thinks he finally found some traction on an issue. Pathetic. It just goes to show how bad things are going for his team.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:43 pm#10, #14, #18, #21, #24, #33 and last, but not least, #35.
Why, good golly, at ten cents a post, GiGi has enough money to buy a candy bar now!
March 20th, 2008 at 2:45 pmSweet wiggling jesus!
You just know that thats gonna be on saturday night live this week.
HALLOWEEN?
Wheres the next stop on the “Make bush look brilliant tour” ?
March 20th, 2008 at 2:45 pmBush had a wireless transmitter on his back during debates so he could look like he knew what he was talking about.
McCainiac has Joe LIEberman.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:49 pmGood Golly, the hollow, transparent and fake patriot.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:50 pmI think the independent voters would vote this ticket 4-1 over whoever wins the democrat nomination. With the democrats beating each other up, an now Nader getting involved again, things are not looking good for anybody.
It can always wish. But with Democrats outvoting Republicans 3 to 1 and new young Democratic voters coming on board every day, just exactly how does this idiot troll think that the Republics can beat the Democrats?
As long as Hillary Rove Clinton doesn’t end up in splitting the Democratic party down the middle, there is no way that any Republican can win in November. That’s why the Republics are so desperately pushing Hillary’s candidacy. That’s why thousands of Republics have voted for her even though they detest her.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:53 pmWhat a pathetic old phony the mcmaverick really is….
probably makes him a shoe-in for Pres. in this nation of nitwits, rubes, suckers, pigeons, and ignorant, hateful bigots.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:55 pmWow GiGi, just like most ignorant, biased and bigoted conservatives. Your reference is to someone outside the religion attempting to describe the holiday to someone who really does not have a clue. Do you really think that those of the Jewish faith believe that that is an accurate representation of the holiday? Well, who the hell cares what they think when we have an expert like you. Certainly Joe Lieberman has no qualification to understand the holiday.
McCain either did not prepare well for his remarks. He shows a remarkable lack of sensitivity about those whose religions he speaks about. A true qualification for leading the west. But is that not the usual arrogant trait of a conservative. The same kind that led Bush to go to war without understanding the ethnic differences and great divide between Sunni and Shiite?
Cut from the same clueless, ignorant cloth.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:55 pmWhich one was wearing the three-cornered hat? Apparently McBush can’t tell Al Qaeda from a Hamantashen!
March 20th, 2008 at 2:58 pmgood_golly - March 20th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
The Feast of Purim - AKA the Jewish Mardi Gras, Jewish Halloween
What is our resident resident troll babbling about now?
Purim = Mardi Gras = Halloween!?!? oookk….
Obviously, if he cannot tell the difference between a pagan celebration and one of the holiest celebration in Christianity, he will be hard pressed to understand what Purim is about.
What a moron…
March 20th, 2008 at 3:05 pmgood_golly Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
The historical roots of the holidays are different, but the celebrations are so much alike that Purin is often referred to as the Jewish Halloween. Try reading up on it.
funny that a Jew doesn’t know that. good job spinning, ggoebbels.
March 20th, 2008 at 3:05 pmIt belittles one religion to claim that their holidays are a “version” of the holidays of another religion. No big deal, but when visiting a foreign land, I’d hope our dignitaries tried to keep their feet out of their mouths as much as possible.
What’s interesting about the story isn’t that McCain repeated something that people say, but that Lieberman felt the need to correct him, in public, again.
If McCain were to become President, would we all hope to see Lieberman standing beside him, day in and day out, whispering corrections in his ear like some kind of modern day chamberlain.
March 20th, 2008 at 3:06 pmOn their next trip together, when Lieberman has to change diapers for McCain, he’ll be wishing for the good old days when he just had to remind him what he was talking about.
March 20th, 2008 at 3:08 pmOh and gone_goofy. If you’re trying to protect McCain here because you don’t want him to lose any votes I think you’re in the wrong place. I don’t think there’s too many posters at Think Progress who would vote for Mc100yearwar for any reason. Maybe you should go to Drudge or Redstate where you can find somebody stupid enough to vote for him.
March 20th, 2008 at 3:11 pmVerbalKint Says:
#10, #14, #18, #21, #24, #33 and last, but not least, #35.
Why, good golly, at ten cents a post, GiGi has enough money to buy a candy bar now!
And just in time for Halloween!
(Joe Lieberman taps ralph on shoulder, whispers in his ear)
Huh? It’s not? But — but I was told it was a Jewish version of Halloween. Oh, man… Can someone find Gigi so she can set Joe Lieberman straight on these Jewish holidays?!?
March 20th, 2008 at 3:11 pmMcOldtimer just isn’t quite hittin’ on all cylinders these days.
March 20th, 2008 at 3:12 pmWe have an Easter tradition at the nanlichi house where the oldest male dresses up in a loin cloth and comes stumbling out of the dark dripping blood from his wrists and ankles, smelling like a three day corpse and tosses candy and boiled eggs to all the kids.
It’s just like Halloween.
March 20th, 2008 at 3:13 pmJMOHR Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
McCain either did not prepare well for his remarks. He shows a remarkable lack of sensitivity about those whose religions he speaks about.
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It isn’t just that the lack of sensitivity is alarming, it’s also that McCain obviously never does his homework. I would say “how can somebody like this ever hope to be elected?” but then I remember who’s in the White House now.
One thing that can honestly be said of both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton by friends and foes alike is that they both are major preparation nerds. They wouldn’t dream of going out and pontificating on something they hadn’t researched thoroughly, and they would never go visit a foreign country without learning as much about their culture as they could.
Whereas McCain thinks it’s OK to just “wing it”. It doesn’t matter if he offends anyone, because when you’re the POTUS, everyone else is unimportant — right? Haven’t we already had too many years of a president who not only looks like a fool but doesn’t care?
March 20th, 2008 at 3:16 pmI’m nothing even approaching a McCain apologist, but I am Jewish… Yes, Purim is celebrated in ways similar to Halloween. I remember “Purim Carnivals” at temple, etc. Of course, comparing a Jewish holiday to “halloween” while on tour in the Middle East is just plain stupid. It would be like telling an Australian Aborigine that Christmas is kind of like Hanukah.
March 20th, 2008 at 3:22 pmmissmolly Says:
McCain thinks it’s OK to just “wing it”. It doesn’t matter if he offends anyone, because when you’re the POTUS, everyone else is unimportant — right? Haven’t we already had too many years of a president who not only looks like a fool but doesn’t care?
You’re right, missmolly — before Bush, a president as undisciplined as this one is would have been unthinkable. Bush has demonstrated why it doesn’t work, but that lesson apparently lost on McCain.
March 20th, 2008 at 3:25 pmHey, people, look. Carnaval — Mardi Gras, whatever — is the Catholic version of Purim. Purim is the one day where you’re actually allowed to get piss drunk; it’s a wild and raucous party with wine, noisemakers, and funny hats, and it’s traditionally when gifts are exchanged (not Chanukah; that’s an American “I’m-pissed-we-don’t-celebrate-Christmas” tradition). Comparing it to Halloween isn’t particularly accurate; as I pointed out, I think the best comparison is with Carnaval. It even happens around the same time. My shul used to put on a fair with game booths and food and such as an annual Purim event (maybe it still does, I don’t know). So all you guys who are acting so serious about extermination, there are other holidays for that — Yom Hashoah rememebers the Holocaust, and there are three fast days (not counting the Fast of Esther, the day before Purim) remembering the destruction of the two Temples and other large losses. Tisha b’Av, for instance; look it up. You could still say that Purim is somewhat bittersweet given the fasting the day before, but Purim is THE party holiday. Joe Lieberman the Orthodox Jew should know this and the halacha requiring you to get drunk enough to confuse the names of Haman and Mordechai (but no drunker), the traditions of making noise when Haman’s name comes up in the Megillat Esther, and the only song anyone knows, “Chag Purim, chag Purim, chag gadol hayeladim,” roughly meaning “Purim holiday, Purim holiday, big holiday for the kids.” So McCain wasn’t far off, except that Purim actually has religious meaning compared with Halloween, which doesn’t have much. Purim is the celebration of a great victory over evil and not the mourning of a great loss like Tisha b’Av. So do some homework before you criticize.
March 20th, 2008 at 3:26 pmFIVE
-McCain crashed 5 fighter planes
-Cheney has had 5 heart attacks
-Cheney got 5 deferments from Viet Nam
-5 years of an illegal invasion
-5: Bush’s IQ
March 20th, 2008 at 3:27 pmThanks to Bush, the bar has been lowered to the ground as far as standards pertaining to presidential suitability go.
March 20th, 2008 at 3:28 pmmary Says:
Thanks to Bush, the bar has been lowered to the ground as far as standards pertaining to presidential suitability go.
Quite true. I think the Republic Party would be comfortable nominating Pauly Shore, as long as he pledged to fight Islamofascism and cut taxes on the wealthy.
March 20th, 2008 at 3:33 pmGood grief. McRetarded. The man is just …retarded. He needs to be locked up where he can’t hurt anybody. Or himself.
March 20th, 2008 at 3:34 pmmary Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Thanks to Bush, the bar has been lowered to the ground as far as standards pertaining to presidential suitability go.
Yeah, Mary, and now that senile old asshat is just going to trip over it.
March 20th, 2008 at 3:36 pmIt doesn’t seem to be hurting him, though
http://rasmussenreports.com/ public_content/ politics/ election_20082/ 2008_presidential_election/ the_impact_of_pastor_wright_and_the_speech_on_election_2008
I honestly don’t think anyone is paying attention to McCains trip, for which he should be hugely grateful.
The Obama Speech/Preachergate is just way better television.
Also, I hate to say this, but most Americans of all political stripe don’t know Shia from Sunni or Purim from Purina. If you yourself don’t know something and find out a politician doesn’t either, either you can’t appreciate whether it is important or not or, worse yet, you go “Hey, I don’t know that, but neither does the guy running for President, so I am not that dumb after all!”
March 20th, 2008 at 3:43 pmMcBush would be a perfect fit for the PIAB.
March 20th, 2008 at 3:44 pm“An Open Letter to Sen. Barack Obama on the Subject of Faith”
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/ 2008/ 03/ 20/ an-open-letter-to-sen-barack-obama-on-the-subject-of-faith/
March 20th, 2008 at 3:54 pmLieberman:
psssssst: You make one more F’in mistake and your gonna blow my cover that I am really the Repuppetcan nominee.
RIP
March 20th, 2008 at 3:58 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
mauro7inf -
You said Halloween doesn’t have much religious meaning. There, you’re wrong.
Halloween is in refernce to All Hallow’s Eve, the night prior to All Saints Day. All Saints Day is a Catholic holiday that celebrates, well, you guessed it: all of the saints. All Hallow’s Eve is the night before when all of the devils and demons get to play prior to all of the saints being honored the next day.
So… there is a religous background to the day.
March 20th, 2008 at 4:16 pmKeltoi… wow.
Unique logic you use. “If I’m dumb and don’t know something, it’s comforting to know that the GOP guy running president doesn’t either. I sure wouldn’t want someone who was smart in office. I’d feel most dumber, then.”
PS: It’s their DAMN JOB to know the difference between Sunni and Shia when you commit trillions of dollars and countless lives to an area filled with two sects of people that have HATED EACH OTHER FOR A THOUSAND YEARS.
March 20th, 2008 at 4:21 pm“Their version of Halloween”, eh?
Didn’t know the Pope invented Halloween, did you?
March 20th, 2008 at 4:51 pmbobcat_grad Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Keltoi… wow.
Unique logic you use. “If I’m dumb and don’t know something, it’s comforting to know that the GOP guy running president doesn’t either. I sure wouldn’t want someone who was smart in office. I’d feel most dumber, then.”
PS: It’s their DAMN JOB to know the difference between Sunni and Shia when you commit trillions of dollars and countless lives to an area filled with two sects of people that have HATED EACH OTHER FOR A THOUSAND YEARS.
I didn’t say it was good, Bobcat, I was trying to understand why his gaffes in the ME weren’t costing him at the polls. Either no one is paying attention or they don’t understand the difference themselves.
Personally, I am simply boggled by the idea that he doesn’t know the difference. It is such a simple, basic difference. I don’t expect Progressives to like McCain, but when he says he mis-spoke that seems more likely than that he really doesn’t know the difference. The guy has been in Congress for almost 3 decades…
March 20th, 2008 at 4:51 pmKeltoi Says:
I was trying to understand why his gaffes in the ME weren’t costing him at the polls. Either no one is paying attention or they don’t understand the difference themselves.
I think the most likely explanation is that the polls haven’t caught up with this incident yet. They tend to lag about a week or two, don’t they? And any poll that purported to have measured the effect of something like this in a single day, I wouldn’t trust right away.
Then again, maybe everyone is fixated on “PreacherGate”, so focused on attacking a candidate for something someone else said that they ignore another candidate’s actual embarrassing statement.
March 20th, 2008 at 4:56 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Keltoi Says:
I was trying to understand why his gaffes in the ME weren’t costing him at the polls. Either no one is paying attention or they don’t understand the difference themselves.
I think the most likely explanation is that the polls haven’t caught up with this incident yet. They tend to lag about a week or two, don’t they? And any poll that purported to have measured the effect of something like this in a single day, I wouldn’t trust right away.
Then again, maybe everyone is fixated on “PreacherGate”, so focused on attacking a candidate for something someone else said that they ignore another candidate’s actual embarrassing statement.
I think it is the latter. Like I said, Preachergate is awesome copy - it has something for everyone, whether it is Hannity playing the Wright tape 24/7 or the MSM swooning over how wonderful Obama’s speech was. Also, the fact that Iraq itself has dropped from the news helps McCain - people fighting and dying over there barely gets a mention any more. Someone misidenifying a sect is just not that exciting.
March 20th, 2008 at 4:59 pmSM, I have no idea what you’re saying.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:16 pmAnd on October 31st, the Persian people arose with the Great Pumpkin out of the most sincere pumpkin patch - which was tended by Haman.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:23 pmNevar must never have eaten those candy corn things. Just what the hell are those?
March 20th, 2008 at 5:28 pmSouthern Man Says:
Damn! I copied the wrong post, and am in the wrong thread. Is it Friday yet. Happy Hour, here I come.
That’s a relief. I thought I was losing my mind. Enjoy.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:32 pmThe Blogging the Bible series by David Plotz on slate.com had a nice write-up about Pimm…. The last paragraph from his blog entry on Pimm, Purim and the story of Esther reminds me of the differences in the Iraq narrative we hear from Joe McBush Chenyierman and co and reality….
“I’m from a family of lax Jews, and I’m sure our Purim celebrations weren’t quite up to code. Even so, I am shocked at the difference between the Purim story I heard in synagogue and the Purim story in the Bible. We certainly celebrated the death of Haman at synagogue, but I don’t recall hearing about the orgy of violence that followed. The 75,000 killed, Esther’s insistence on a second day of slaughter, the vindictive impaling of Haman’s sons—all that was left out of the kid-friendly Purim story I was raised on. Those horrifying acts make Purim a much more ambiguous, and troubling, holiday.”
March 20th, 2008 at 5:39 pmAlso, is it just me or is anybody else beginning to feel like Joe Lieberman and Lindsey Graham are almost becoming minders for a older war hero who seems to be not as sharp as he used to be (to put it mildly) ….
March 20th, 2008 at 5:42 pmWell, AIPAC Joe does know.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:56 pmIf McBush makes a sudden move to the right or left, would it break Lieberman’s neck?
March 20th, 2008 at 6:06 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Then again, maybe everyone is fixated on “PreacherGate”, so focused on attacking a candidate for something someone else said that they ignore another candidate’s actual embarrassing statement.
embarrassing is putting it mildly - and how pathetic of the media to be overlooking mccain’s statements especially since he is supposedly the candidate with the most ‘experience’ when it comes to foreign policy - i haven’t seen anything on the news - the only people heard sounding out about mccain’s bush-level cluelessness about ‘ferners’ are jack cafferty and keith olbermann(nothing on the fixed noise website but that’s no great shock) - would have loved to have seen obama attack mccain while he had the tv time instead of having to give a speech on religion and race that he really shouldn’t have had to do.
March 20th, 2008 at 7:44 pmBut there it’s All Saints’ Day that has most of the religious significance — I didn’t say All Hallows’ Eve had none, just not much. Kind of like Mardi Gras, which is not so much an important holiday as it is the day before Lent starts. But you’re right, I should have been more careful in talking about it. Interestingly enough, it was a long time before I even knew that Halloween was a Catholic holiday; when I first moved to the US, I thought it was just an American one (if it’s celebrated in Brazil, it just wasn’t celebrated to me!).
March 21st, 2008 at 6:40 am