McCain baselessly asserted Iran/al Qaeda ties last month.
By on Mar 20th, 2008 at 10:25 am
McCain baselessly asserted Iran/al Qaeda ties last month.
Speaking at the Baker Institute for Public Policy in Houston, TX, last month (Feb. 28th), McCain stated the following:
But Al Qaeda is there, they are functioning, they are supported in many times, in many ways by the Iranians.
Watch it:
This is at least the fourth time that McCain has asserted a direct Iran/al Qaeda connection. Previously, he made the false claim on the Hugh Hewitt radio show and twice during a recent press conference in Jordan. His campaign has also made the connection in his name.
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Gramps McSame is using the Bush doctrine of lying in order to keep the sheeple afraid. These aren’t “senior moments” – these are sly little lies.
Creep.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:28 amWhat Fritz said.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:32 amI hope nobody is surprised that the traitor McStain is a sociopathic liar like his best buddy Bush.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:34 amKhalid Sheikh Mohammad did his undergraduate studies in North Carolina – should we start worrying about all those North Carolina/al-Qa’ida ties now?
March 20th, 2008 at 10:35 amKhalid Sheikh Mohammad did his undergraduate studies in North Carolina – should we start worrying about all those North Carolina/al-Qa’ida ties now?
March 20th, 2008 at 10:37 amYes. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
I’m sure the trolls will be here with all their rightwing blog links to “prove” there really is an Iran-Al Qaeda connection, no matter how tenuous or convoluted.
And all that will do is just create noise to distract from the real question — does McCain know for sure of an Iran-Al Qaeda connection, is he inventing one in order to get support for bombing Iran, or is he just flapping his lips without engaging his brain?
If McCain truly knows of a specific Iran-Al Qaeda connection, he would look less like a fool if he would elaborate on that, and convince us why Sunnis and Shiites are working together when we know they hate each other.
I suspect that instead of there being a real Iran-Al Qaeda connection, that McCain is just ramping up passion for attacking Iran. And he knows he can get American support for such a move just by mentioning the term “Al Qaeda” in the same breath as “Iran” as often as possible.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:41 amThis old bastard has lost his mind.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:42 amThis is fear-mongering, pure and simple. It is disgusting and it has to stop. We must stop allowing our government to lie to us as a means to staying in power.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:44 amHey
ThinkProgressMcCain Watch Blog,How about Hillary’s recently published schedules from when she was First Lady? Pretty interesting, huh?
March 20th, 2008 at 10:45 amThey just keep pushing the NeoCon Nazi propaganda. No facts, no evidence, just rhetoric and lies. Chimpy McFlightsuit sure is a good dog though they tell him sit, roll over, follow the party line and he does it. I wish the facts would come out already about the onset of his Alzheimer’s and the fruit cup Armageddon theories of his Pastor Hagee. Soon enough I suppose.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:48 amWell, how can we start an illegal war against Iran without phony ties to Al Qaeda??? Didn’t you guys learn anything from the Iraq War? You don’t need any actual proof to make these claims.
(end sarcasm)
What’s sad is, the country with the most direct ties to Al Qaeda, Osama Bin Laden, and the 9/11 attacks was SAUDI ARABIA, but no neo-con warmonger would dare criticize such a “close ally” of President Bush.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:52 amYes, the Saudis must be rolling on the floor laughing out loud at all of this. How much more of this:
http://www.asecondlookatthesaudis.com
Will they continue to get away with scot-free?
March 20th, 2008 at 10:55 amgood_golly Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 10:55 am
I have posted numerous links on other ThinkProgress threads regarding al Qaeda/Iran ties. I will not repeat them here.
Good. I’ve had more than enough bullshit for one week.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:57 amWind him up and watch him go! The new McPutz doll. Rhetoric based fear, fear based rhetoric! Get yours today! Also wets and poops! (McPutz Depends available separately)
March 20th, 2008 at 10:58 amMcCain wants to the “The WAR President II” so much that he’ll follow GWB’s lies right into Iran. The fininancial support for the Repubs is based on being “At War” so don’t expect Bomb Bomb McCain to depart from the play book any time soon.
March 20th, 2008 at 11:02 amThis is no country for old men.
Especially those that are senile, warmongering, lying whores.
March 20th, 2008 at 11:02 amgood_golly Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 10:55 am
The U.S.A. and U.S.S.R. “hated each other” too, but they worked together to defeat Nazi Germany based upon the age old doctrine that “the enemy of my enemy is my friend.”
The U.S.A. also works on another principle – “the enemy who has something I really want is my friend.” Back in the 1990s, we had relations with the Taliban too:
March 20th, 2008 at 11:04 am
Damn Zooey, I just checked out your link and that picture scared the shit outta me! Ewww! Those “35″ years of saving the world sure have taken it’s toll.
March 20th, 2008 at 11:04 am… just plantin’ that seed…
“it’s iran, folks” … it’s all about iran…
get ready…
March 20th, 2008 at 11:05 amcheck it out:
Bill Maher on McCain: “Not Tougher. Dumber.”
excellent bumper sticker there…
March 20th, 2008 at 11:08 amexcept the “Not Tougher. Dumber.” needs to be BIGGER, BOLDER…
So why is everyone just noticing it now if it has been going on all this time? It seems that everyone has to first get permission to pile on. Does anyone correct Bush when he says our mission in Iraq is successful? Does anyone remind him that the “mission” was to find WMD’s and keep Saddam from launching a “mushroom cloud?” No. That’s old news.
McCain is just as scarey and just as dumb as Dubya; the difference is that he also has a hair-trigger temper. We’ll all sleep well if he gets to be Prez– We’ll all be sleeping with the fishies!
March 20th, 2008 at 11:08 amMore and more I think it is intentional.
Set up the straw man enemy, then knock him down.
Link the scary enemy name that everyone is familiar with Iran, even if there is no real connection.
Sort of like: Iraq = Weapons of Mass Destruction
March 20th, 2008 at 11:09 amgood_golly Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 10:55 am
I have posted numerous links on other ThinkProgress threads regarding al Qaeda/Iran ties. I will not repeat them here.
Too bad, I needed a good laugh this morning.
March 20th, 2008 at 11:11 amCombined with his other statements and song and dance, it does certainly seem like he’s laying the groundwork for attacking Iran. Bush and Cheney are probably more than willing to do him a solid and get the ball rolling before January or even November.
On the Saudi-Qeada connection: has GG or any other rightwinger ever addressed the documented and undisputed connection? Have they advocated ‘taking measures’ to stop this menace to Iraq? Why not i wonder. It couldn’t be that rubber band minds might just snap if they admitted that Bush holds hands and trades pecks on the cheeks with funders of teh terrah, is it?
March 20th, 2008 at 11:12 amWorking with Al-Qaeda would be tremendously counterproductive to Iran’s goals. They are already working with the Badr Corps, which has a tremendous presence in the government of Iraq. And the Badr Corps fights against AQI daily. Hatred of Al-Qaeda is the only thing that the Badr Corps and the Mahdi Army can agree upon, and both Badr/Mahdi have received support from Iran.
March 20th, 2008 at 11:12 amgood_golly Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 10:55 am
The U.S.A. and U.S.S.R. “hated each other” too, but they worked together to defeat Nazi Germany based upon the age old doctrine that “the enemy of my enemy is my friend.”
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So, over the past five years, Bush has managed to get two groups who have hated each other for centuries to unite against us? Wow – really making us safer.
March 20th, 2008 at 11:17 amJohn McCain, 23 April 1991:
I’m not sure that if we did go in on the ground we could tell a Shiite from a Sunni, even from a Kurd. And who is it that we’d be fighting and battling against on the streets of Baghdad?
March 20th, 2008 at 11:18 amFrank M,
Just keep telling yourself that, all the way till November.
March 20th, 2008 at 11:20 amgood_golly Says:
I have posted numerous links on other ThinkProgress threads regarding al Qaeda/Iran ties. I will not repeat them here.
Huh. Whaddaya know. Abusing and ridiculing oblivious trolls sometimes works.
Maybe Gigi ought to email some of those links regarding Iran’s ties to al Qaead to the McCain campaighn. I’m sure ol’ Saint John will be pleased to know he can stop making a fool of himself on this issue.
March 20th, 2008 at 11:26 amFrank M Says:
Check out the Drudge for details.
This explains a lot about Frank.
March 20th, 2008 at 11:27 amOh gigi, the United States and USSR is not really a good comparison. Are you intimating that George Bush has turned the United States into the equivalent of Nazi Germany? The US and USSR were fightging against a violent war of aggression by Germany which was noted for violating international laws (like concentration camps and torture – waterboarding as an example.) This drove the US and USSR together.
What you really are saying then is that Bush went from invading Afghanistan to take out AQ (which had the support of the vast majority of Muslims and Iran) to making the US reviled throughout the region and uniting those who had been implacable enemies for centuries.
Good job George. Good job Gigi – You once again prove that the neocons who brought us into this mess are nothing more than a bunch of witless idiots.
March 20th, 2008 at 11:28 amgood_golly: I have followed up on your links before. Conclusions without factual support. Just like those WMD that failed to exist and the involvement of AQ and Saddam together in the 9/11 attack that arose from the insane delusions of those such as yourself.
March 20th, 2008 at 11:32 amThey lie so constantly, so compusively, they get their lies mixed up. Imagine if China invaded and occupied the US. Wouldn’t you resist? Wouldn’t you get a gun and shoot the invader? Al-Qeida, insurgency, terrorist… they can give any name they want. People have the legitimate right to resist the US occupation, while the US does not have the legitimate rigtht to be there… and for as long they are there, occupying another country, based on lies to steal their resources, there will be resistance. Legitimate resistance!
March 20th, 2008 at 11:32 amGrolly Bolly… you show here and before that you need to get infomed. You need to read and perhaps travel!
March 20th, 2008 at 11:34 amFor a five-year catalog of McCain’s erroneous statements on Iraq, see:
March 20th, 2008 at 11:35 am“Forever Wrong: Five Years of John McCain on Iraq.”
“I think the victory will be rapid, within about three weeks.”
March 20th, 2008 at 11:39 amJohn McCain, January 28, 2003.
That tell me a lot about this idiot! Did he buy any ruggs this time he was there?
Daryll, you have to check the ties between Al-Qeida and the USA! There are there you know! Oh Oh… and what about that beautiful photo of the War Criminal Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam Hussein? They were shaking hands because the US had just approved a stockpile of Chemical weapons to be given to Saddam… you those weapons he used against the Kurds in the 80’s. That is why the US rushed Saddam execution, so this would came out in his mocked trial.
March 20th, 2008 at 11:44 amPS. AngryOne, excellent link!!!!!
For Daryll, GG and the others:
Again, what about Saudi Arabia. Do you also advocate action against a state that has been proved time and time again to support teh terrahists? If not, why not? It couldn’t be that your chimpy and cheney are so cozy with them, could it?
March 20th, 2008 at 11:44 amFrank M Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 11:19 am
Who cares. The polls say that McCain would win now by double digits.
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OK, this should PROVE that Frank M is nothing but a parodist. It’s tough to believe that anyone could really be this idiotic with a straight face.
Frank does not care if McCain is wrong. Or if he’s misinformed. Or even if he’s downright stupid. Or maybe it’s that he doesn’t care if Iran has any ties with Al Qaeda or not.
Frank apparently cares about nothing except the Republican winning. It doesn’t matter what kind of president the candidate would make — all that’s important is that the Republican wins.
Sad.
And he’s even wrong about McCain being “ahead by double digits”. The Rasmussen poll cited by the Drudge Report only has McCain ahead of Clinton by 10 points. No other poll shows McCain’s margin to be that large. Furthermore, the only other polls showing McCain to be ahead AT ALL are Gallup, Zogby and the LA Times. CNN, ABC News, USA Today, NBC News, Newsweek, and Cook all still have their most recent polls showing both Clinton and Obama ahead of McCain.
March 20th, 2008 at 11:45 amSorry my spelling… it 2am here in Sydney!
March 20th, 2008 at 11:45 amDuhryll, yep I trust every word from these “think tanks”. PNAC sure had it right huh?
March 20th, 2008 at 11:47 amDon’t Waste time with FRANK MERDA! He will have his reality check next election… that is, if they don’t steal this one too!
March 20th, 2008 at 11:50 amDo you know that Iran supported the terrorists that committed the 9/11 attacks?by duhshrill
March 20th, 2008 at 11:55 amConsidering most of them were from Saudi Arabia, I would venture to guess that we look in that direction. I would also guess that since you are such a big cheerleader for unneeded wars you have signed up to serve???
lebowski Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 11:44 am
For Daryll, GG and the others:
Again, what about Saudi Arabia. Do you also advocate action against a state that has been proved time and time again to support teh terrahists? If not, why not? It couldn’t be that your chimpy and cheney are so cozy with them, could it?
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This point has been so obvious that it must be downright painful for the righties by now. Ignoring Saudi Arabia while being consumed by every jot and tittle in every document regarding Iran and Iraq is like a detective laboriously doing luminol tests (those of you who don’t know can google it) in the bedroom while blood is splattered all over the living room — simply because his case will go better if he can tie the bedroom to the crime scene.
Saudi Arabia has far more ties to Al Qaeda than can even be invented about Iraq and Iran. I’m surprised we don’t all have sore necks from continually turning and looking the other way.
March 20th, 2008 at 11:55 amDaryll Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 11:51 am
Just like I should trust every word from the Huffington. President Bush created a working group to prove this. You are in denial. Iran is evil and must be taken out for supporting terrorism. Do you remember 9/11? Do you know that Iran supported the terrorists that committed the 9/11 attacks?
A few of the the people believed to have committee the 9/11 attacks may have travelled through Iran to take advantage of their lax visa policies. That is a far cry from “supporting the terrorists.” Iran no more “supported the terrorists” than Spain or Germany.
March 20th, 2008 at 11:55 amAnd,what I should trust everything from the mouth of Commander Codpeice?
March 20th, 2008 at 11:57 amDaryll… do you remember 9/11? 13 of the alledged kidnapers were from Saudi Arabia. Bush had plenty of warnings but somehow did nothing to prevent it. It make me think ‘Why?’. Plus they still did not show a 757 hiting the Pentagon, nor did they ever explained what an E-4B plane was doing flying ober Washington on that day. …and this is just a begining. Your claim about al-Qeida/Iran sound very much like the administration, I should say criminal adiministration’s claims about Al-Queida/Saddam connection, which has been proven false. Who proved that? The Pentagon itself did this week in a report about pre-war inteligence which was released this week.
March 20th, 2008 at 11:59 amThanks for the backup y’all. :)
March 20th, 2008 at 12:00 pmDoes this old codger know that his statements are being recorded>?
At when he tries to duck and dodge the inconsistencies will be hauled up and dumped at his feet?
Apparently not.
March 20th, 2008 at 12:02 pmMy considered opinion is that Daryll should be taken out for supporting terrorists like Rove, Cheney and Bush.
March 20th, 2008 at 12:03 pmTaken out back behind the woodshed. On second thought, he might just enjoy that.
I’m so glad I tear (as in crying little wussy) you up.
The threat posed by radical Islamists pales in comparison to the threat posed by dweebs like you who support ChristoFascism in this country and would trade your Bill of Rights for a swill of fear laden BushitCo koolaid.
Your nephews and the future generations are not at risk from anything more than your paranoid delusions.
March 20th, 2008 at 12:15 pmOh, and why did BushitCo let Bin Laden escape at ToraBora?
Daryll,
For the third time: what about Saudi Arabia? Why don’t you advocate taking action against them? Do you dispute the mountains of evidence firmly linking them to teh terrah? If so, please produce some counter evidence.
If you don’t dispute the ties, why not bomb them? Please explain…
Saudi Arabia had and continues to have proven ties to the 9/11 attackers. Why do you hate America and love teh terrahists so much?
March 20th, 2008 at 12:16 pmDaryll, I fear for your nephews and the future generation, too, but for a different reason. I fear because people like you and those in power think that violence is the solution to this and most problems of foreign policy.
You somehow have missed the fact that this invasion of a country that was no threat to us created far more terrorists than it has eliminated.
(ralph blinks twice, shakes head)
Omigod — was I just trying to talk to a parody troll like it was a real, thinking human being? What’s the matter with me?
March 20th, 2008 at 12:19 pmgood_golly Says:
I have posted numerous links on other ThinkProgress threads regarding al Qaeda/Iran ties. I will not repeat them here.
So TP, when are you going to stop this troll from spamming this board?
March 20th, 2008 at 12:25 pm“Do you remember 9/11? Do you know that Iran supported the terrorists that committed the 9/11 attacks?”
Darryl, without your party in office, after stealing the election, 9/11 would never have happened. yet you still support the party that failed the USA completely, even after numerous warnings. You are more dangerous than Islamic terrorists.
March 20th, 2008 at 12:31 pm>Libs, here you go, http://www.meforum.org/article/670.
> McCain is right.
“While the evidence of Iranian involvement is strong, there are also signs that al Qaeda played some role, as yet unknown. ”
“Signs” and “potentials”. yep, thats some good evidence daryll. Any reason why McCain, CHeney, or any Member of the BUsh administration and their “we know where saddams weapons are” crowd feels like they dont have enough evidence to support these asserts of links between al-queeda and iran?
you nutters really do live in your own world, dont you?
-cj
ps. your wife is still a whore with a baby jesus buttplug
March 20th, 2008 at 12:36 pmDaryll Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Wrong, you do not talk to the enemy. You show them force and let them know that we mean business.
And that strategy has worked wonderfully in Iraq.
March 20th, 2008 at 12:39 pmDaryll,
Why the silence on Saudi Arabia? We’re waiting but all we hear from you on the subject is crickets…
March 20th, 2008 at 12:44 pmDaryll Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
People like you tear me up. I think about 9/11, the Underground bombing, Madrid and terrorist attacks and, at times, I feel depressed for my nephews and the future generation because people like you and your party want to run away from this problem. Why do support the destruction of our future generation by terrorists?
Terrorism will always be around. It has existed since the beginning of human civilization and it will exist until the end of human civilization. There will always be people using violence to achieve political goals. There will always be people shouting “Death to America” somewhere in the world. There will always be religious nutbags – Christian, Jewish, Hundu, and Muslim – who think violence will bring about some sort of end-state peace.
Military solutions will never stop that.
The only way to address these problems is diplomacy – and not the hegemonic “transformational diplomacy” we’re currently pursuing, but actual dialogue and reconciliation, combined with a ruthless assault on poverty, inequality, and human rights violations.
And as part of that diplomacy, the United States needs to take a good, hard look at itself and its imperialist history since 1953. We have a shitload to atone for.
March 20th, 2008 at 12:46 pmI thought Daryll only showed up for gay weiner threads. What gives?
You’re out of your element here, big D – don’t think you’ll find much scriptural support for your positions on this one.
Killing poor people makes Jesus sad Daryll – why won’t you let Him into your cold, hard heart?
March 20th, 2008 at 12:52 pm#41 Daryll Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 11:51 am
You are in denial. Iran is evil and must be taken out for supporting terrorism. Do you remember 9/11? Do you know that Iran supported the terrorists that committed the 9/11 attacks?
Daryll, Loyal Christian(R) of the State, who will we blame next for 9/11?
First it was Osama Bin Laden… Who?
The it was Saddam Hussein… What ties?
Now it is Iran… ?
.
March 20th, 2008 at 12:56 pmDaryll Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 11:51 am
Do you remember 9/11? Do you know that Iran supported the terrorists that committed the 9/11 attacks?
Bullsh!t
March 20th, 2008 at 1:00 pm#63 Daryll Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Clinton had numerous times to take Bin Laden out, but what did he do? He folded. So, in all actuality, it is Clinton’s fault. Stop enabling terrorism.
So it’s Clinton’s fault that George W. Bush has F A I L E D to capture Bin Laden these past seven years? In less than a year to go and your boy will be as big a F A I L U R E as the Party(R)’s nemesis. LOL.
Then, who’s fault will it be?
.
March 20th, 2008 at 1:03 pmHow very Christian of you. What would Jesus do?
And for the record Daryll I have a child and I worry about her having to grow up in a country filled with christofascists like you.
March 20th, 2008 at 1:24 pmThis is just priceless. The same people who don’t want to talk about the mistake of invading Iraq, it’s old news and we have to move on, want to go back and blame Clinton for not getting Bin Laden. Of course no way can they remember that when Clinton took action he was accused of “wagging the dog” to distract from the oh so important issue of who he had sex with.
The people of this country are so freakin’ stupid we’ve gotten the government we deserve.
March 20th, 2008 at 1:27 pmDaryll Says:
Clinton had numerous times to take Bin Laden out, but what did he do? He folded. So, in all actuality, it is Clinton’s fault.
Isn’t this a new twist for Daryll? I don’t recall him over-playing the CLINTON DID IT™ card before?
Maybe without any scruptural support for warmaking, the big D has to turn to the tried-and-true wingnut diversionary tactics.
March 20th, 2008 at 1:43 pm#63 – Daryll Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
“Clinton had numerous times to take Bin Laden out, but what did he do? He folded.”
How easy the right-whiners forget that they were impeaching Pres. Clinton, and any time Pres. Clinton tried to move against Usama, the right-whiners complained “You’re trying to distract from your impeachment!”
Now, the same right-whiners refuse to take responsibility for their distracting Pres. Clinton from taking Usama “out.”
The right-whiners need to stop enabling terrorism, but since it’s what gets them the votes, they will keep supporting terrorism.
March 20th, 2008 at 2:24 pmDaryll Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 11:39 am
Libs, here you go, http://www.meforum.org/article/670. ”
Thanks for the laugh, Darryl. This website is about as reliable as feeding McCain prunes without his depends on.
From their “mission statement”:
March 20th, 2008 at 4:02 pm“The Middle East Forum, a think tank, seeks to define and promote American interests in the Middle East. It defines U.S. interests to include fighting radical Islam, whether terroristic or lawful; working for Palestinian acceptance of Israel; improving the management of U.S. democracy efforts;”
Mr. Evil Says:
March 20th, 2008 at 11:04 am
Damn Zooey, I just checked out your link and that picture scared the shit outta me! Ewww! Those “35? years of saving the world sure have taken it’s toll.
Sorry about that, Mr Evil.
She’s obviously had the wing nut on the back of her head tightened a few turns since then. ;)
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