Bush Falsely Claims Iran ‘Declared’ It Wants A Nuclear Weapon ‘To Destroy People’
Bush Falsely Claims Iran ‘Declared’ It Wants A Nuclear Weapon ‘To Destroy People’
During a recent interview with Radio Farda, a U.S. government-run radio service that broadcasts into Iran in the Farsi language, President Bush falsely claimed that Iran “declared they want to have a nuclear weapon to destroy people.”
However, the the U.S. intelligence community disagrees. A National Intelligence Estimate on Iran released last December stated unequivocally that Iran had halted its nuclear weapons program in 2003. But also, Iran has never “declared” its intention to acquire nuclear weapons and in fact, it has publicly stated the opposite:
–”Iran has repeatedly denied seeking nuclear warheads, and its supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, issued a religious edict in 2005 forbidding the production, stockpiling and use of such weapons.”
–Iran expert and former Bush administration official Suzanne Maloney: “The Iranian government is on the record across the board as saying it does not want a nuclear weapon.”
–Non-proliferation expert Joe Cirincione: “Iran has never said it wanted a nuclear weapon for any reason. It’s just not true.“
The experts added that Bush’s claim is “troubling,” “as uninformed as [Sen. John] McCain’s [R-AZ] statement that Iran is training al-Qaeda” and “only produces” such rhetoric from Iran.
White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe stretched to explain Bush’s gaffe, saying “the president shorthanded” Iranian President Ahmadinejad’s desire “to wipe Israel off the map.” Asked about Iranian leaders’ potential to exploit Bush’s false claim for political purposes, Johndroe said “I’m not concerned about that. If they want to spin it a certain way, they can do it any way they want.”
Indeed, Bush’s “shorthand” with the facts in the run up to the Iraq war is exactly what led to the “most dangerous” foreign-policy blunder since Vietnam.
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So the Deserter-In-Chief lies again. Too bad he can’t desert again.
March 21st, 2008 at 1:28 pmBush and McCain and all the other warmongerers are now just too lazy to come up with clever lies. They just make shit up as they go along.
March 21st, 2008 at 1:28 pmThe stories about this moron are bad enough and raise my blood pressure badly, but TP…do you have to use the chimp’s picture on this site?
March 21st, 2008 at 1:29 pmEvery time that I see a photo or video the moron, I want to spit and scream epithets…
add it to the false claims list.
March 21st, 2008 at 1:29 pmThe signs are there for an Iraq redux with Iran. John McCain tied al Qaeda to the Iranian government, George Bush talked about a mushroom cloud “destroying people”, and Dick Cheney rode around the Middle East in a reprise of his pre-Iraq war tour.
It’s time to spread more Freedhem!
http://arisfreedomswitch.blogspot.com/2008/03/freedhems-words-leading-to-war.html
March 21st, 2008 at 1:34 pmProblem with your logic, Frank, is the
A) Iranian President did not even say that. Widely debunked deliberate mistranslation.
B) Every inspection has confirmed that Iran is only developing nuclear energy, not weapons.
nice try tho, frightened little right winger
March 21st, 2008 at 1:36 pmIt just adds to the LONG list of things that make this admin a group of raving lunatics and blatant liars….MAYBE the dubya library can house them all as an PRISON!!!
March 21st, 2008 at 1:37 pmWould someone please take Bush away in a straight jacket!
March 21st, 2008 at 1:37 pmWhat makes right wingers so convinced that America is weak enough to be destroyed by “terrorists”?
I think America is strong enough to defeat these CRIMINALS without resorting to war.
Of course, I grew up in the land of the free and home of the brave, not the land of the surveilled and home of the chickenshit right wing warmonger
March 21st, 2008 at 1:38 pmLying didn’t keep Iraq from happening. Why should they expect any differently for Iran? They have shown their contempt for the civilized world in far more ways than remarking “so”.
March 21st, 2008 at 1:39 pmFrank M Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Even though you moonbats can’t put the two together and reach the only correct conclusion (Iran wants to develop nuclear weapons), I’m glad that we’ve still got an administration that can.
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Let’s suppose for a moment that your absurd statement is true (explaining why it isn’t would just lead the thread off-topic). That’s not the issue here. Bush said (and this is a direct quote), “they’ve declared they want to have a nuclear weapon to destroy people,” which is a lie. There’s no record of Iran making any such declaration.
There’s a big difference between drawing a conclusion of “X” based on cherry-picked evidence and making a blatant accusation that “X” was declared. Try to stay on track here.
March 21st, 2008 at 1:40 pmAnd this country wants to elect McSame. This nation is LOADED with knuckle-draggers. Just wait until the world no longer tolerates the pariah that we have become. They are doing it now as they are moving away from dollars. We are being marginalized. So keep it going . . . elect a Republican to . . . anything.
March 21st, 2008 at 1:40 pmBravo, RantingTommy, Bravo!
March 21st, 2008 at 1:40 pmAnd while they’re at it take away Frank M too. You are the reason this type of psycho-babble works. You believe it automatically and unquestioned. If Bush told you it was OK to molest children you’d be the first one down to the local playground for your jollies. Weak, blind followers just make me sick.
March 21st, 2008 at 1:41 pmIf Bush says it it must be true. Just look at Frank, he believes it. You better watch out for Illinois Frank, we have the most nuclear power plants in the country, we must be thinking about manufacturing weapons.
March 21st, 2008 at 1:41 pmgood point missmolly
much better than the one atop frank’s head
why are right wingers so easily frightened?
March 21st, 2008 at 1:41 pmCall it how it is, TP: George W. Bush LIED.
March 21st, 2008 at 1:44 pmBush Claims USA ‘Declared’ It HAS Nuclear Weapons ‘To Destroy People’
There fixed for you, Bushie.
Then again, Bushco doesn’t need Nukes to destroy people, he does it with his Neocon polices just fine.
Bush/Cheney
March 21st, 2008 at 1:46 pmHague Trials ‘09
Remember how Bush put two and two together in 2002 and 2003?
March 21st, 2008 at 1:46 pmTerrorism only works on the terrified.
Republicans need to grow a pair and stop cowering under Dubya’s cheerleading skirt
(you right wingers DO realize he was a cheerleader in high school don’t you?)
March 21st, 2008 at 1:47 pmThe “wiped off the map” phrase is much overplayed, and is a very misleading translation. So Gordan Johndroe’s statement that the president “shorthanded” that phrase shows that it is a distortion of a distortion! See Wikipedia for an explanation:
March 21st, 2008 at 1:51 pmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#.22Wiped_off_the_page_of_time.22_translation
Exactly when did Ahmadinejad claim he “desired” to wipe Israel off the map? This doesn’t sound like a Farsi phrase to me.
March 21st, 2008 at 1:52 pm“Shorthand?” Another victory in the war on language.
March 21st, 2008 at 1:53 pmGee, you wonder if our “enemies” use this for propaganda?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU_xmrmcoZI
Looks even scarier than a Jihadist training camp when the shoe is on the other foot.
March 21st, 2008 at 1:56 pmI see reference to a post by Frank M.
March 21st, 2008 at 1:57 pmDid Frank M post in this thread….I don’t see his post anywhere….did he get banned?
So who’s the international terrorist now? I’d say a case can be made against George W. Bush.
March 21st, 2008 at 1:59 pmEvery time George Bush lies a little piece of America dies.
Goodbye Frank!
March 21st, 2008 at 2:01 pmOur own homegrown “enemy within” is showing himself once again. Someone called him the Anti-Christ and this may be true. He’s earned the reputation for his nickmand “Butcher Bush” with his pro-torture, warmongering, imperialistic stance.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:01 pmmust have, fred, – he was claiming that the pres of Iran had said he wanted to wipe Israel off the map and that he was developing weaponizable nuclear fuel, which both have been debunked
i think that little good_golly idiot is a better candidate for banning than frank tho, frank is scared and stupid, but gg is generally hateful and lies quite alot
March 21st, 2008 at 2:02 pmWouldn’t everyone be totally shocked to catch George Bush in a “truth” at this point? Lying has become his MO and that’s what americans expect of him – his lying has reached pathological proportions now and absolutely NO ONE believes one word he says.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:02 pmWhite House spokesman Gordon Johndroe stretched to explain Bush’s gaffe, saying “the president shorthanded” Iranian President Ahmadinejad’s desire “to wipe Israel off the map.”
And the truth to this is that Ahmadinejad never said he wanted to “wipe Israel off the map”. He said he wanted to wipe the rulers of Israel off the map. There is a HUGE difference between the two.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:02 pmGood point. Translations are always tricky to get right. And its deeply troubling that people in very high places dont bother to actually get things straight before going warmongering, talking about mushroom clouds and World War III.
There’s a huge difference between wishing for the end of the zionistic policies of Israel, and threatening to “wipe out” the state of Israel.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:04 pm“See in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.” George W. Bush
March 21st, 2008 at 2:04 pmSubstitute “truth” for “lies” in that quote and you have the real truth.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:04 pmAnd the war drum beats on…..da-dum, da-dum. Bush’s wet dream is to engage us in war with Iran before he leaves office and goes into exile in Paraguay on his oasis. Since the NIE intel (and Hillary’s double dupe?? by voting aye – huge mistake) does not support Dumbo, he’s going to have to stir the pot quick briskly to ever garner any support for war with Iran. Oh yeah – almost forgot about his partner in crime, John Bomb Iran McCrazy. I think it will distill down to McTorture being his only friend in the world soon.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:05 pmSubstitute “lies” for “truth” in that quote and you have the real truth.
Oh well…you know what I mean. I’m having a bad day today.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:05 pmBilbo: What I find disturbing is that Bush doesn’t even hide the fact that he’s lied to the people and continues to do so. To him (as the sociopath whom he is) it’s some kind of feather in his cap – a major nyuk-nyuk to believe that he’s being allowed to do so. He’s revulsive at this point and people can’t even watch his evil countenance on the television without wretching.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:07 pmSouthern Man,
I will say that I have just as much reason to believe Ahmadinejad as I do to believe bush. In fact Ahmadinejad has never been proven to be a liar…..bush has.
You exhibit a weak mind. One that cannot work these things out for yourself or allow yourself to doubt the people you have convinced yourself are acting in your best interest……kind of a jimmy jones thing.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:10 pmpffft, “southern man”, you may be southern, but you need to man up if you really believe America is so weak that Iran is a threat to it.
American Idol watching, Fox news believing, Limbaugh listening, SUV driving, authoritarian worshiping, country ‘music’ blaring, pissing-in-your-pants cowards like you are more of a threat to America than Iran and its electrical plants could ever be.
Grow a pair, you sissy.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:11 pmSM – one of the problems with your line of reasoning is that attacking Iran would probably not even help out the one ally that you must be referring to. It would inflame the region even further.
But, the point of this thread is that Bush LIED. Get it?
BTW, Bush making false claims does not exactly endear the entire country of Iran to us and in fact could very well be used to push people away from us and back to their own leaders. It’s counter-productive. So, is Bush just stupid? (and doesn’t get that) Or, does Bush WANT to inflame the region further and provoke violence?
March 21st, 2008 at 2:12 pmFrom the mouth of George W. Bush on Sept. 11th 2001:
When is going to keep his word.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:15 pmAnswer me this, if Republicans use FEAR as a manipulative political device, don’t they fit the very definition of ‘terrorists’?
March 21st, 2008 at 2:15 pmA GOPer friend of mine and I were talking today and he and I are convinced that McCaint will take us to war with Iran.
The more I hear these comments the more I see that happening.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:15 pmSouthern Man Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 2:02 pm
I guess it’s easier for some of you to believe Ahmadinejad; a man who denies the holocaust ever happend, over international inteligence angencies who have proven that Iran is trying to build nuclear facilities that would be able to produce and manufacture nuclear materials. Iran may not be a direct threat to us, but they are a threat to our allies. But who needs allies, right?
Who are these “allies” you’re blubbering over ?
Israel ?
How many troops they have with ours in Iraq and/or Afghanistan , chuckles ?
March 21st, 2008 at 2:16 pmIs Southern man advocating we attack Iran to protect our allies?
March 21st, 2008 at 2:16 pmI guess Frank M. morphed into Southern Man. We’re not going to explain it again SM, read the earlier posts.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:18 pmWhere the hell were George H. W. and Barbara when it came to teaching their kid not to lie?
Now little Shrub has done it for so long he is pathological and can’t tell the truth. Worse, he doesn’t need to, or want to, because no one is calling him on it.
Maybe Congress needs to take a big bar of soap to White House and do what George and Babs did not.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:18 pmHe’s advocating attacking Iran to cover his own fears and insecurities. He is one of the ones so easily manipulated by fear that he will support whatever his perceived protector claims is necessary.
In other words, he’s a stinking coward.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:18 pmTired of being lied to Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Where the hell were George H. W. and Barbara when it came to teaching their kid not to lie?
Now little Shrub has done it for so long he is pathological and can’t tell the truth. Worse, he doesn’t need to, or want to, because no one is calling him on it.
Maybe Congress needs to take a big bar of soap to White House and do what George and Babs did not.
A soap bar enema ?
March 21st, 2008 at 2:21 pmPropaganda is the deliberate, systematic attempt to shape perceptions, manipulate cognitions, and direct behavior to achieve a response that furthers the desired intent of the propagandist.
– Garth S. Jowett and Victoria O’Donnell, Propaganda And Persuasion
Is there any further reason for anyone to question what Bush’s intent is? Let’s not forget that this administration still has 10 months remaining in office.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:21 pmimpeachcheneythenbush Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Is there any further reason for anyone to question what Bush’s intent is? Let’s not forget that this administration still has 10 months remaining in office.
Thanks for the reminder ………..Gonna’ crap in my drink next ?
March 21st, 2008 at 2:22 pmIran “declared they want to have a nuclear weapon to destroy people.”
I must say, that is a particularly poor delivery, even for G. W.-armonger Bush, the self declared ’simple president’.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:24 pmWho wants to join me in declaring loudly:
I AM NOT SCARED ENOUGH TO VOTE REPUBLICAN!
??
March 21st, 2008 at 2:25 pmSouthern Man Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 2:25 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FckLO8HcNyo
His own words!
Here are some of my words ; you’re an imbecile………..
March 21st, 2008 at 2:28 pmsouthern “man” is so scared
why are right wingers so damned frightened of everything?
i mean EVERYTHING! – gays, blacks, browns, hollywood, muslims, “libruls”
no wonder they are so easy to manipulate!
March 21st, 2008 at 2:28 pmPres Bush makes a demonstrably false statement, and what do reichwingers do?
Why, change the subject, of course!
“Look, over there! Ahmadinejad is denying the Holocaust!”
For the trolls with a short attention span problem: This thread is about Pres Bush making a blatantly false statement, just like that, out of thin air.
In other words, he lied.
Now suck it up.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:29 pmmancaredunce joins the ranks of frightened little right wingers cowering under dubya’s cheerleading skirt
so sad
March 21st, 2008 at 2:30 pmYou right Ranting Tommy, but mostly they’re scared of the TRUTH.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:31 pmThe World Leaders no longer listen to Bush as he’s called an incompetent liar around the world. Some Foreign papers even laugh as his stupidity. Now McCain who doesn’t even know the who the Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds are is giving the Iran Leaders the biggest laugh. Here’s a man who wants to be President but can’t remember what he said a minute ago and knows nothing about the people of Iraq. Bush keeps bringing his two best friends with him Mr. Jack Daniels and Mr. Weed. At lease one positive thing Bush can claim to his legacy is Afghanistan has had the biggest year ever in poppy plants for cocaine.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:32 pmand jason jumps onto the coward train
why are you guys so easily frightened by republican rhetoric?
are you just sissies? is your fear borne of your ignorance? do you have some other motive and are just trying to APPEAR to be frightened little pansies?
March 21st, 2008 at 2:33 pmRepublican Message: America is too weak to defend herself against ragtag groups of “terrorists” without resorting to tactics that only serve to provide recruitment propaganda to those very same terrorist groups.
Democratic Message: A strong America can be both safe AND free, and does not need to sacrifice our freedom or our military in a cowardly response to the terrorists and their republican allies.
I AM NOT SCARED ENOUGH TO BE A REPUBLICAN
March 21st, 2008 at 2:38 pmjason and southern man should get a bomb shelter. really.
“The people say Death to Isreal” is not “Iran “declared they want to have a nuclear weapon to destroy people.” The former is generalized rhetoric, like “They hate us for our freedoms” and is aimed at getting applause at a rally. The latter is a specific statement of intent. Are all republicans this stupid or just the ones who post here?
Even if bush was right, he’s proven himself to be so incompetent at running a war that you war loving chickenhawks should be mad at him for being such a screwup.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:40 pmAmerica can defeat terrorist criminals without resorting to war and elevating these criminal thugs to holy warrior status.
Why do Republicans think we are too weak to do that?
Cowards.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:40 pmIs he lying, deliberately? Or is he just stupid.
Yeah, I know,
BOTH.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:41 pmThe trolls are too busy “cleverly” building strawman arguments, running scared, or changing the subject to even begin to comment on the topic of the thread.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:41 pmSanctions work just fine for me. And I believe that their own people will topple their goverment.
And yet we had to topple Saddam, even though weapons inspectors were slowly revealing to the world exactly how militarily toothless he actually was.
That same scenario was true for Iraq.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:42 pmRepublicans use fear as a tactic.
Tell me again what separates them from the terrorists?
March 21st, 2008 at 2:43 pmTerrorism can be stopped with love and understanding, and for the small handful that it doesn’t stop, we have the american judicial system.
Ironically, the troll has pointed the way towards the answer.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:43 pmi bet jason checks under his bed for bogeymen
what a cowardly sissy
March 21st, 2008 at 2:44 pmnote to jason0000
March 21st, 2008 at 2:45 pmlay off the blazing saddles references.
You are quoting one that makes no sense in the context of the thread and, Mel Brooks will send Mongo after you if you continue.
“Southern Man
He doesn’t like women or gays by the way.”
So he’s a good replublican, like ted Haggert?
March 21st, 2008 at 2:45 pmI guess either you didn’t watch, or you don’t care to see the truth about Iran. “Death to America” must mean nothing to you. America isn’t scared; we are listening. You not understanding that, makes you a coward.
Coming from a member of the party that actually sold them weapons, that’s hilarious!
March 21st, 2008 at 2:45 pmHow much courage does it take to sell weapons to the same terrorists who were holding Americans hostage?
Damn little.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:47 pmhey southern “man”, why don’t you grow a pair?
cowards like you let Bush and his terrorist allies frighten you into supporting policies that are not designed to protect you, rather to line the pockets of the Bush Extended Crime Family
you cowards don’t deserve to live in the land of the free and home of the brave
March 21st, 2008 at 2:47 pmSouthern Man Says:
I never said we should attack Iran. Where did I say that? I was commenting on Ahmadinejad.
Okay, SM, how about commenting on Bush’s latest lie? That’s what the thread is about.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:49 pm…. and Iran is an imminent threat to the US, and the war will be short and pay for itself and Americans won’t do anything to stop these nuts.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:49 pmOsama Bin Laden is simply a revolutionary created by Americas Imperialistic Policies. He has a difference of opinion with us, we need only agree with him and he’ll go away.
He said we should withdraw troops from Saudi Arabia, and we did.
Heard from him lately?
Nope.
What does that tell you?
March 21st, 2008 at 2:49 pmre 90:
March 21st, 2008 at 2:50 pmThis is too funny for words, the only one on this thread that doesn’t know that jason is a troll trying reverse psychology in a pathetic attempt to frustrate the “liberals” is his lone republican buddy, southern man. unbelievable.
hey jason, while we were waiting on Bush to actually go after bin Laden, he invaded Iraq
bin laden is walking around still making tapes while America has its incredible military bogged down in the VERY SAME SCENARIO that the USA and bin Laden used against the Soviets in Afghanistan.
at least you answered one question: your fear is definitely borne from your ignorance
March 21st, 2008 at 2:50 pmRepublican sissies are like an elephant.
bin laden is their mouse.
he scares them so bad that they go stomping all over the middle east in a panic, causing more problems than the mouse itself.
typical republican cowards
March 21st, 2008 at 2:53 pmHow about the fact that Iran’s president can fly into Bagdad without incident, and Bush and Shooter have to sneak in under the cover of darkness? After all this time, we still cannot parade into the invaded country, because it is unsafe.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:53 pmBush Falsely Claims Iran ‘Declared’ It Wants A Nuclear Weapon ‘To Destroy People’
March 21st, 2008 at 2:54 pmOne reason why less than 1/3, quite possibly the rapture ready crowd, believe this murderous giggling idiot.
So sad that a troll like this latest jason can only see a binary world; either Ahmadinejad is the greatest evil since Satan himself, or he’s a benevolent leader misunderstood by Bush.
How about a little, y’know, middle ground? How about Ahmadinejad is a nut-case with very little practical power who makes a good boogeyman for the neocon persistent drive for war and more war?
Nah, for simple-minded trolls like The New Adventures of the Old Jason, anyone who chastizes the president for one more lie is in fact defending Ahmadinejad.
So sad that some people live in such a binary world.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:54 pmralph, their brains are paralyzed by fear
binary is all they have left
or maybe i got the chicken and the egg reversed
which came first? their ignorance or their cowardice?
March 21st, 2008 at 2:56 pmOne reason why less than 1/3, quite possibly the rapture ready crowd, believe this murderous giggling idiot.
Even Hagee’s lately realized that he needs to walk a few statements back, or be tarred as an end-times crank…
March 21st, 2008 at 2:57 pmThe boy-king isn’t happy with the war he has started in Iraq, he is looking forward to playing with his “toy soldiers” again and involve them in another theater. He has no compassion for humanity, no sense of what it means to be a leader. His words are reminiscent of the words he used to ramp up the war with Iraq.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:58 pmJason, SM, et al.
The stupid thing is that all that stuff we heard in the 90’s about rock and roll setting the people free was actually working… The young people of Iran were demanding reforms and more freedoms…
The BEST way to make sure that the Hardliners and Mullahs stay in power?
Bomb Iran-
You guys are incredibly counter-productive- ALL THE TIME!
March 21st, 2008 at 2:59 pmI promise you that nothing will unite the people of Iran behind the mullahs and against the U.S. like a few “surgical” strikes… yeeee-haw!
Southern Man Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 2:43 pm
MCMetal Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Southern Man Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 2:25 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FckLO8HcNyo
His own words!
Here are some of my words ; you’re an imbecile………..
I guess either you didn’t watch, or you don’t care to see the truth about Iran. “Death to America” must mean nothing to you. America isn’t scared; we are listening. You not understanding that, makes you a coward.
Oh really , GI Joke ?
Could there be a bigger pansy chickenshit than those like yourself , who still stubbornly and stupidly believe and need an AWOL moron and a 5 deferrment coward to laughably “protect” them ?
You’re a joke , you big mary……
BTW “Tough Guy”
Is there a more glaring example of an absolute coward than someone who advocates and encourages illegal and idiotic wars and occupations , yet refuses to fight in it themself ?
March 21st, 2008 at 3:00 pmright on, mcmetal
its about time we confronted these cowards publicly and called them what they are
its a simple slogan:
I’M NOT SCARED ENOUGH TO BE A REPUBLICAN
it applies to almost all of their policies, not just their chickenshit elephantile reactionary response to the CRIMINAL act of 9/11
March 21st, 2008 at 3:03 pmMarie Says:
The boy-king isn’t happy with the war he has started in Iraq, he is looking forward to playing with his “toy soldiers” again and involve them in another theater. He has no compassion for humanity, no sense of what it means to be a leader. His words are reminiscent of the words he used to ramp up the war with Iraq.
“Reminiscent”, Marie? It’s the same damn script! They didn’t even bother to re-write it so it sounds different. They just scratched out “Iraq” and wrote in “Iran” above it.
(They tried just scratching out the “Q” and writing in an “N” but it was too hard for Bush to read.)
March 21st, 2008 at 3:03 pmjason54301 Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:02 pm
You are worth about a handful of used toilet paper ; your laughably stupid and flat out dishonest claim that “Liberals” were pushing for the “Surge” months before Chimpy actually implemented it , is just plain wrong and flat out ludicrous.
You sound like a real pathetic , small-and-narrow-minded little GOP backing jackass…………
March 21st, 2008 at 3:05 pmjason is a sissy
argues in circles
is more interested in being “right” than correct
would rather win an argument with bogus claims than learn the truth
a truly frightened little troll
March 21st, 2008 at 3:05 pmrepublicans are the type of coward that would bring a tank to a fist fight
March 21st, 2008 at 3:07 pmjason, name one post here that says that Agenamanaoud is their hero? Show one link where “Liberals were pushing for the surge until bush did it?
If bush was discharged from the Military, all you have to do is show the world his discharge papers. He has friends in the Pentagon, produce those papers and that will go away.
You can’t so you won’t.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:08 pmjason54301 Says:
For instance, me being a troll makes anything I say wrong, even if I regurgitate the Liberal Mantra.
How do this troll know? When was the last time it “regurgitated the Liberal Mantra”? Maybe once it tries, and is told it’s wrong, then it can make this claim. –oh, my mistake — I forgot that this troll adheres to the BushCo definition of The Truth: “It is what Ah Say it is”.
(What IS the “Liberal Mantra” anyway? Is it “O-BA-MA”? Or maybe “Raise Taxes”? Or “Kill Babies”? Who can tell what these trolls think is the “Liberal Mantra”?)
March 21st, 2008 at 3:08 pma truly frightened little troll
They are all truly frightened just like the 28% that still support Bush. They are insecure frightened people who need a Mommy or Daddy figure to tell them what to think, how to act and what to do with their lives. They turn to paternalistic politicians and religious leaders to lead them out from under their beds. Unfortunately the politicians and religious leaders keep scaring the piss out of them so they never make it out into the sunshine.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:09 pmOh, please jason, your pathetic attempts at sarcasm were not worth the pixels they took up.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:09 pmGet over yourself, weenie.
Pounding your chest an jumping in the ring like a sat. night wrestler or gorilla is what got us into this mess. We need someone with a little common sense for a change…..
calling people cowards or threating countries with military strikes make you part of the problem….not part of the solution. If you say santions work then why are you calling us cowards for supporting that tactic instead of force?
jason54301 Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:10 pmHugo Chavaz – Socialist Dictator, Brutal Ruler, Bush Enemy, Liberal hero.
Fidel Castro – Socialist Dictator, Brutal Ruler, Bush Enemy, Liberal hero.
Achmindinijad – Religious Dictator, Brutal Ruler, Bush Enemy, Liberal hero.
Jason, you are just a liar. Hugo is not a dictator….and neither is Achmindinijad. You have no credibility no matter what you say because you lie when it is convenient for you to do so………….
“I’m the coward? At least I say we should fight back rather than roll over for the ‘foreign policy’ of a couple rag heads on the other side of the world. THEY ATTACKED US.
Jason the idiot”
And “they” are still in Afghanistan dumbass.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:10 pmjason54301 Says:
Blkah blah vblah
MCMetal Says:
You sound like a real pathetic , small-and-narrow-minded little GOP backing jackass…………
That’s not a coinkydink, MCM…
March 21st, 2008 at 3:10 pmjason54301 Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:06 pm
I’m so sick of this attitude that we can’t advocate a war without fighting it ourselves! By YOUR logic, the military has the free will to go to war with whomever, whenever they please, since people in uniform are the only ones who may decide whether or not to fight a war.
In that case, you’re STILL idiots! Why do poeple join the military is they’re pacifists???
I’m the coward? At least I say we should fight back rather than roll over for the ‘foreign policy’ of a couple rag heads on the other side of the world. THEY ATTACKED US.
Show everyone here exactly where and when Saddam/Iraq ever attacked us , you mental furball……….
BTW
“Strength” is not shown nor revealed through viciousness or arbitrary mayhem , destruction and killing ; it takes more strength to think things through to a logical , reasonable and sound conclusion than to go off seeking revenge , through some type of blodd-lust.
You are a feeble minded little turd………
March 21st, 2008 at 3:10 pmjason54301 Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Damned right I’ll bring a tank to a fist fight. If you have it, USE IT.
This explains your virginity.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:11 pmyes youre the coward jason, you dont say WE should fight, you say THEY should fight, while you cheer from the sidelines
and, if ya wanna get down to it, rolling over is EXACTLY what bush did for bin laden, hence NOT catching him because he invaded Iraq INSTEAD OF GOING AFTER TERRORISTS
furthermore, instead of using an EFFECTIVE method, like LAW ENFORCEMENT to capture bin laden and make him stand a FAIR TRIAL and show the world that AMERICA is the true and right way, your cheerleader in chief Bush panicked and invaded THE WRONG COUNTRY and captured THE WRONG GUY!
the effect being, naturally, that now bin laden has the USA bogged down in Iraq just like he had the soviets bogged down in afghanistan
if you werent such a chickenshit moron, you’d see this and see that Bush is being OUTSMARTED and is reacting EXACTLY how bin laden wanted him to
typical republican coward
March 21st, 2008 at 3:11 pmjason, why aren’t you advocating nuking N. Korea? Kimmy is loonier than Ahmadinejad and they HAVE a nuke.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:12 pmIf you have it, use it, right?
jason54301 Says:
How about the 22% that support the DEMOCRAT CONTROLLED CONGRESS!!! Keep spitting up Bushies numbers, they look GREAT next the Dumbocrats!
Wow. I haven’t seen a troll collapse in desperation this quickly in months.
Someone cover him up with a blanket or something. The quivering is undignified.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:13 pmjason54301 Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:11 pm
You’re right, if we can’t win in 3 weeks, we should just give up. I’ve never been fond of the Sears tower anyway. And whoever wanted to visit Israel.
Probably just you and Joe Lieberman ; and no one here is very fond of that Zionist assbag……Shows how far down on the totem pole you are……….
March 21st, 2008 at 3:13 pmjason54301 Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Bobworst, I’m rubber, and you’re glue….
Wow, that’s the most intelligent argument you’ve posted today. Who said a troll can’t learn?
March 21st, 2008 at 3:14 pmjason54301 Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Bobworst, I’m rubber, and you’re glue….you want to break it down to that? Where’s the ‘Ignore’ button?
It’s the white “X” surrounded by a red background in the upper right-hand corner of your screen…………
March 21st, 2008 at 3:15 pmpanicked republicans are a threat to world peace
(jason and southern “man” are just a threat to whirrled peas)
March 21st, 2008 at 3:15 pmjason54301 Lies:
That is the bottom line…..I can prove it right here in this thread. Jason is just what bush is, a liar which is appropriate because that is the subject of this thread. No wonder he supports him.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:16 pmjason54301 Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Tommy you are truly a moron!!! You complain about invading Iraq, but you advocate INVADING PAKISTAN!!!
Law Enforcement would have captured Bin Laden??? We should have sent over a police officer??? Sure, I can see it now
“Stop Bin Laden, this is the POLICE”
“Oh shucks, ok fellas, put down your guns, they have a WARRANT!!!”
Then how do you explain your unintelligible . moronic dipshit hero’s inability to capture him ?
March 21st, 2008 at 3:17 pmHugo Chavaz – Socialist Dictator, Brutal Ruler, Bush Enemy, Liberal hero.
Fidel Castro – Socialist Dictator, Brutal Ruler, Bush Enemy, Liberal hero.
Achmindinijad – Religious Dictator, Brutal Ruler, Bush Enemy, Liberal hero. Doesn’t matter that they put homosexuals to death, as long as he is the enemy of Bush.
Actually Jason,
I don’t idolize any of these fellows, but then I don’t think that we should replace them by force either- The issue here is your assertion (and Bush’s) that we MUST remove the unstabilizing forces around the globe with force. But violence begets violence and all this talk of war with Iran has only INCREASED the hard-liners popularity in Iran…that’s why I say you’re counter-productive.
You want to do something about dictators?
Support justice and equality for everyone and not just when you agree with the outcome… then people will start to trust the United States impartiality again.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:18 pmthemancaredonce Says:
Keep on pushing forward Bush show these damn pro’s how to “RUIN” a country!!
Fixed for you, themanwhoistryingtospellbetter
March 21st, 2008 at 3:18 pm#1 – show me where i ever advocated invading pakistan
#2 – law enforcement worked when the perps of the first WTC bombing were CAPTURED, TRIED, and CONVICTED
and none of us had to be wiretapped, take our shoes off at airports, or be patted down to go to a football game to get him
o, not to mention, no war was necessary, and we held the moral high ground while bringing criminals to justice and NOT turning them into holy warriors
March 21st, 2008 at 3:18 pmjason54301 Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Tommy you are truly a moron!!! You complain about invading Iraq, but you advocate INVADING PAKISTAN!!!
Law Enforcement would have captured Bin Laden??? We should have sent over a police officer??? Sure, I can see it now
“Stop Bin Laden, this is the POLICE”
“Oh shucks, ok fellas, put down your guns, they have a WARRANT!!!
Well, actually it’s more like Bill Clinton did back in the 90’s when you we’re stil sucking on mommy’s tit (at age 14). He caught the scumbags who bombed the World Trade Center the first time, with police work, and because he did it while respecting the Constitution, those scumbags were tried and are now rotting in jail….
Why aren’t you providing a link to bush’s discharge papers? is it becuase he was never discharged?
March 21st, 2008 at 3:18 pmjason54301 Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:17 pm
So you totally hate Israel, that explains why everything Achmindinijad says is gold to you.
Just because I’m not totally enamored with Israel , doesn’t reveal “hatred” towards them , you simpering little chucklehead.
They are no better nor worse , nor more important , than any and every other country to me ; that they are to you doesn’t mean jack shit to me…………
March 21st, 2008 at 3:19 pmjason54301 Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:18 pm
I love these forums, I present a rational, organized thought, the retort is “You’re stupid”, “You’re a virgin”, “You’re a coward”. Its like arguing with 5 year old.
Go back and read what you started out posting. We’re just working with what we’re given. Say something that merits a thoughtful response and that’s what you’ll get. post sophmoric crap and that’s what you’ll get. get it? you cowarldy retarded virgin.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:20 pmjason54301 Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:18 pm
I love these forums, I present a rational, organized thought, the retort is “You’re stupid”, “You’re a virgin”, “You’re a coward”. Its like arguing with 5 year old.
Lying repeatedly and hysterically is not considered “rational, organized thought” ; thought I should point that out to you……..
March 21st, 2008 at 3:21 pmomg mcmetal – ’simpering little chucklehead’ – i nearly choked on my soda
lol
March 21st, 2008 at 3:21 pmJason thinks if we don’t want to go to war with a country we’re elevating it’s leader to hero status. Nothing wrong with that logic, nope, nope, nope.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:22 pmjason – are you trying to set a record for the most incorrect statements in a single thread?
if so, man, you gotta be there, congrats, now go get back to cowering
BOO!
March 21st, 2008 at 3:24 pmRemember folks, it’s spring break time, and the pimply faced introverts who are to embararssed to be seen in bathing suits have nothing to do for a week. We’ll be seeing lots of Jasons for a few weeks.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:24 pmTime to flag the spamming, ranting, hatemongering, racist, ignorant troll…
March 21st, 2008 at 3:24 pmjason54301 Says:
When you tell blatant lies here why would you expect us to be nice to you for wasting eveyone’s time?
March 21st, 2008 at 3:25 pmjason54301 Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:22 pm
When the leader of a country rejects the right of another country to exist, and that country is an ally, what are you supposed to do???
Liberal idea: appease the agressive country for several years, all the while letting them slowing achieve nuclear weapons, then be at their mercy to not use the nuclear weapons.
What has Ahmadinejad actually DONE , to prevent Israel’s existence ?
BTW
You are simply using Chimpy’s lie of Iran’s desire for a nuclear weapon , to make an argument that has absolutely no basis in fact…….
March 21st, 2008 at 3:26 pmjason54301 Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:22 pm
When the leader of a country rejects the right of another country to exist, and that country is an ally, what are you supposed to do???
Well in bush’s case he thinks he should treat the first country like an atm machine, (google china and tiwain)
March 21st, 2008 at 3:26 pmTERRORISM ONLY WORKS ON THE TERRIFIED!
refuse to be frightened
nothing to fear but fear itself
I’M NOT SCARED ENOUGH TO BE A REPUBLICAN!
Are You?
March 21st, 2008 at 3:27 pmThe soviet Union actually had/has the weapons….they were much scarier than Iran as they had efficient delivery systems and they were actually in place…….
somehow, despite crying little babies like you….we survived. We are not at their mercy if you will get up off of your knees.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:29 pmjason54301 Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:27 pm
What lies? All I see is people responding with “Troll” and “You’re stupid”.
here’s one lie. Prove it’s not and we’ll move on.
“I’m the coward? At least I say we should fight back rather than roll over for the ‘foreign policy’ of a couple rag heads on the other side of the world. THEY ATTACKED US.”
Iraq did not attack us. Iran did not attack us. Bin Laden attacked us. When you say “THEY ATTACKED US” you are lying.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:30 pmWhen the leader of a country rejects the right of another country to exist, and that country is an ally, what are you supposed to do???
Liberal idea: appease the agressive country for several years, all the while letting them slowing achieve nuclear weapons, then be at their mercy to not use the nuclear weapons.‘
Pakistan already has nuclear weapons and an unstable government… the failure of the U.S. to secure Afghansistan has only led to more instability in Pakistan… the “Mission” to disarm Saddam revealed that we were right and that the sanctions were working…
Al Qaeda hoped that the U.S. would get sucked into a ground conflict in Afghanistan that would last for years and cost trillions of dollars and give them new recruits for their terrorism- they were demoralized when the Taliban fell as quickly as it did.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:30 pmBUSH and the NEO-CONS gave Osama bin Laden an incredible gift when they invaded Iraq…
We gave them the war they wanted at the price they wanted to pay with people lining up to join their cause… and we also gave them a free pass to re-group in Afghanistan.
YOU guys think like 5 year olds- this is not a “comic book” world where might makes right… you’re counter-productive and imbecilic.
Southern Man Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:26 pm
hey southern “man”, why don’t you grow a pair?
cowards like you let Bush and his terrorist allies frighten you into supporting policies that are not designed to protect you, rather to line the pockets of the Bush Extended Crime Family
you cowards don’t deserve to live in the land of the free and home of the brave
I believe in our millitary and their capability to protect us. I for one, never have or will ever be afraid of any of our enemies because of our millitary. We are the lone super power in the world because of our millitary, and I back them 1000%. The only thing that scares me is people like you. People who believe the United Nations has more authority than the U.S. to protect itself. The coward argument you use is a weak one. You got tired of being called one your whole life, and now you use it as weak argument against others who want to protect America. People who want to protect this country and listen to what our enemies are saying does not make us cowards; It makes us stronger. Ignoring our enemies does not make them go away. That only happens in make believe land, a place you seem to visit often.
Are you Goofy and Pluto’s father ?
Are you trying to claim we need our military to “protect us” from IRAQ ?
Me and several of my friends could have kicked their asses.
They were NO THREAT TO US ; can you comprehend that , you ignorant turd ?
BTW
Missusing our military does not make us “stronger” , in case you hadn’t noticed (and judging by your Chimpy leg humping and overall stupidity , you haven’t)………..
March 21st, 2008 at 3:32 pmThe soviet Union fell apart because they were stuck in a pointless war in the middle east fighting bin laden…oh crap!
March 21st, 2008 at 3:32 pmJason, until you resolve the whole “Iraq attacked us” bit, you’re still a liar.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:33 pmjason54301 Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Hitler talked JUST LIKE Achminijad is before ‘allegedly’ gassing 6,000,000 jews.
But the Iranian Hitler is harmless…
Go join the Mossad if you’re so damned worried about Israel ……….And take Lieberman with you and do not return ; either of you…….
March 21st, 2008 at 3:34 pmWe survived because RONALD REAGON stared down the enemy. We won the cold war because of STRENGTH, not ‘understanding’ ala cowardice.
We call you names because you can’t even spell the name of your hero, Ronald Reagan, right… and because you don’t read or think deeper than “Kick ass! Stare ‘em down! Bring it on! I got’s me a tank and I’ma gonna use it.”
March 21st, 2008 at 3:34 pmnot because you’re on the ‘other’ side…
You see what you want to see. I have not called you either a troll or stupid. I called you a liar and I can prove it.
You said Hugo Chaves was a dictator……that is a lie…..
You are marking yourself as a troll because it is convenient for you…..just as you lie because it is convenient for you. You are just like bush who does the same thing.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:34 pmusing the military to go after a criminal gang is like using a shotgun to go after flies in your kitchen
you’ll probably miss the flies, but you’ll make a lot of holes in your kitchen
which begs the obvious question: how many holes are in southern “man” and jason’s kitchens?
March 21st, 2008 at 3:35 pmjason54301 Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Bobworst, you can’t take what I say, twist it to something I didn’t say, and then say what I said in the first place. Are you a Senator???
1-make your incoherent postings a little more specific.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:35 pm2-quit paraphrasing Shakespeare.
Jason-
March 21st, 2008 at 3:37 pmDo you agree that since the U.S. has begun ramping up it’s anti-Iran rhetoric that the approval ratings for the hard-liners have sky-rocketed? Or would you prefer to talk about staring down the enemy and further embolden and strengthen the Iranian government?
criminals are a threat to us, including terrorists
the bigger threat, is cowardly reactionary morons that use a shotgun to attack flies
March 21st, 2008 at 3:37 pmjason54301 Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Its funny that terrorists aren’t a threat to us…5000 families would probably disagree with that.
Well, it’s only 3985 families so far, but don’t worry, it will be 5000 soon enough. And it’s not funny. it’s painfully sad that those families are grieving for no reason. you should be ashamed that you support the iraq occupation.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:37 pmhow many holes in your kitchen, jason?
March 21st, 2008 at 3:38 pmjason54301 Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Its funny that terrorists aren’t a threat to us…5000 families would probably disagree with that.
Terrorists don’t have a single country, they have countries that support them. Iraq did not attack us, Afganistan did not attack us. No COUNTRY attacked us. Does that mean we can’t get the SOB’s that give them sanctuary and kill the terrorists on their home sand?
And that means we have the right to arbitrarily invade every single country that a moronic liar like Chimpy claims is home to terrorists ?
Can you not see how insane that type of statement is yet , silly boy ?
March 21st, 2008 at 3:39 pmjason54301 Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Hugo Chavez is not a dictator??? The guy that has shut down communications in the country to silent dissent against him? The guy the TOOK CONTROL OF THE OIL COMPANIES is not a dictator???
He was elected idiot. Do you even know what the word “dictator” means? idiot. god, what school did you get kicked out of? idiot.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:39 pmthis make you look like a hypocrite. another bush trait.
now you are a proven liar and hypoctite.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:40 pmjason wouldnt just shoot holes in his own kitchen, he’d chase the flies all over the neighborhood, blasting away, accusing anyone that tried to protect their home of harboring flies and being a ‘librul’
March 21st, 2008 at 3:40 pmjason54301 Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Hugo Chavez is not a dictator??? The guy that has shut down communications in the country to silent dissent against him? The guy the TOOK CONTROL OF THE OIL COMPANIES is not a dictator???
Wait, those are two things the Liberals want to do…and they don’t want to consider themselves dictators…
Are we the ones who illegally spied or even advocated spying on fellow Americans without a warrant , Chimpy nut hugger ?
March 21st, 2008 at 3:41 pmJason-
see #174…
March 21st, 2008 at 3:41 pmBobwurst Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:33 pm
Jason, until you resolve the whole “Iraq attacked us” bit, you’re still a liar.
We’re waiting…
March 21st, 2008 at 3:42 pmIf you people had been in power in 1942, all of Europe, Asia, and Africa would be under German control. Hell, we probably would have allied with the Germans!!!
3985 families of Soldiers who volunteered to join the military knowing full well that they were putting themselves in harms way to protect the freedom of an ungrateful slug like yourself to call their sacrifices useless.
You are a truly ugly and pathetic being.
When did Iraq invade Poland?
March 21st, 2008 at 3:42 pmjason, not content with just breaking the record for incorrect statements on a single thread, continues to wow the judges by racking up post after post, ensuring that his record will stand for many years and possibly earning himself a spot in the Troll Hall of Fame (located in the Paraguay wing of the Bush ‘libary’)
March 21st, 2008 at 3:43 pmjason54301 Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:41 pm
If you people had been in power in 1942, all of Europe, Asia, and Africa would be under German control. Hell, we probably would have allied with the Germans!!!
3985 families of Soldiers who volunteered to join the military knowing full well that they were putting themselves in harms way to protect the freedom of an ungrateful slug like yourself to call their sacrifices useless.
You are a truly ugly and pathetic being.
I don’t need “protection” to begin with , worm ; and I especially don’t need to be “protected” from Iraq or Iraqis.
I will repeat ; THEY WERE ABSOLUTELY NO THREAT TO US……..
March 21st, 2008 at 3:43 pmjason54301 Says:
#1 you said we should have followed Bin Laden….HE WENT TO PAKISTAN. Therefore, you advocated INVADING Pakistan.
The simplistic right-wing mind attacks again!
Can anyone explain the frayed thread of logic that the troll used to find his way home from “follow bin Laden” to INVADE?
(Maybe it’s actually a “‘fraid” thread?)
March 21st, 2008 at 3:44 pmjason54301 Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:43 pm
never said “Iraq attacked us”. Resolved. Don’t cast YOUR LIES onto me.
Where is the majority of our military ?
Antarctica ?
March 21st, 2008 at 3:45 pmJason-
March 21st, 2008 at 3:45 pmattacking Iraq has diverted attention from Afghanistan and strangthened al Qaeda… attacking Iran would only strengthen the Mullahs… are you working for the enemy?
When a football player makes a quote about the other team that ends up in the papers, the opposing coach usually tacks it up on the wall of the locker room to rally his players.
Jason advocates providing more wall hangings to inspire radicalism in Iran.
Like I said: shotgun after flies with no regard to ‘collateral damage’.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:46 pmjason54301 Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:41 pm
If you people had been in power in 1942, all of Europe, Asia, and Africa would be under German control. Hell, we probably would have allied with the Germans!!!
Really? Why was Bush’s grandfather convicted of illegally trading with Hitler during WWII? Who was the president during WWII? Oh yeah, the DEMOCRAT who pulled us out of the REPUBILCAN GREAT DEPRESSION.
I respect and honor those who are fighting, not because I believe the war is right but becuase I respect their sacrifices. I fight against this war in Iraq,and the impending war in Iran becuase i respect and honor those men and women. You are hiding behind them becuase you are a cowardly punk ass loser. Sign up and go fight if you really believe what you say.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:46 pmjason54301 Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:43 pm
never said “Iraq attacked us”. Resolved. Don’t cast YOUR LIES onto me.
Then why ar we in Iraq? scumbag?
March 21st, 2008 at 3:48 pmI bet Jason’s family eats out a lot. Too windy to keep the stove lit with all those holes in the kitchen.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:48 pmjason54301
You said Ahmadinejad was a dictator too. that is also a lie.
Why don’t you try sticking to the thread topic which is the fact that bush is a liar…….oh yeah….birds of a feather.
well try again liar/hypocrite. please don’t call me stupid.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:48 pm“I’m the coward? At least I say we should fight back rather than roll over for the ‘foreign policy’ of a couple rag heads on the other side of the world. THEY ATTACKED US.”
Again, jayboy, why are we in Iraq? and why aren’t you in uniform?
March 21st, 2008 at 3:50 pmI guess the pansy jason cut and ran. typical republican.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:52 pmWhew, just got thru reporting everyone of Jasons posts, many that took awhile.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:53 pmjason, admit it. you’ve been caught lying repeatedly and you have zero credibility. You’re a scared little cheerleader for war, too frightened to get in the game yourself, but more than willing to cheer for others to sacrifice if it makes you ‘feel’ safe.
You’re a coward, a liar, and an ignorant bed-wetting sissy who is scared of everything.
You are easily manipulated by both republicans and their terrorist allies into allowing them to raid our treasury, harm our military, foment anti-American sentiment around the world, and pass the bill onto future generations.
You really have no reason to continue living, as life is a pretty scary concept for sissies like you. I believe you should go immediately to a hospital for the criminally ignorant and check yourself in.
We promise not to let the scary brown man get you.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:53 pmJason, you are just a liar. Hugo is not a dictator….and neither is Achmindinijad. You have no credibility no matter what you say because you lie when it is convenient for you to do so………….
Jason doesn’t know the difference between someone who was duly elected by the people of the country they rule and a “dictator”. I suspect it thinks that if the person is not ruling in a way that is pleasing to the US, that makes the leader a Dictator.
Well, by Jason’s standards, that makes George Bush a dictator to a large number of people in this country since only 19% think this country is headed in the right direction.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:53 pmMan, I would have thought that with that spectacular flameout in post 120, The New Adventures of Old Jason would just burn away and dissolve in an acrid cloud of smoke.
But apparently it contained quite a few pockets of gas (methane, judging by the odor) that keep erupting in huge fireballs of idiocy.
It’s really quite spectacular.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:54 pmI hate to point this out but since no one else has….
We (progressives) were in power……the conservatives had just trashed our economy and the American people had just kicked them to the curb……better find one and get familiar with it fool. It’s happening again.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:54 pmDreamCrusher Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Fake but accurate?
There isn’t a damn thing that Chimpy claims that is ever accurate……..
March 21st, 2008 at 3:55 pmThat was the best game of whackatroll I’ve played in a long time. Kind of reminds of the good old days when jake was trying to pretend he was vet, then was trying to pretend he never said he was a vet…I need a smoke.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:59 pm#1 you said we should have followed Bin Laden….HE WENT TO PAKISTAN. Therefore, you advocated INVADING Pakistan.
Well, then, I guess that Bush has invaded Pakistan because he has been lobbing missiles in there lately to supposedly kill AQ leaders.
But, being the chickenshit that he is, he didn’t send in the troops, he just sent in missiles that kill indiscriminately.
Probably made another 500 new terrorists, the family members of the innocents who were killed by Bush’s missiles.
March 21st, 2008 at 3:59 pmWe should bookmark this thread for when jason returns
March 21st, 2008 at 4:00 pmFred Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 4:00 pm
We should bookmark this thread for when jason returns
It would be better for all concerned if it were copied and sent to the mental health professionals at Bellevue………
March 21st, 2008 at 4:02 pmBobwurst Says:
I guess the pansy jason cut and ran. typical republican.
Or, better yet, maybe TP banned the troll again in response to his being flagged. Wonder how long it will be before it pops up again?
March 21st, 2008 at 4:04 pmThe chimpmeister still hasn’t told the truth about anything after all these years. I do believe he never stopped drinking and doing drugs. A drunken AWOL coward is what he is.
March 21st, 2008 at 4:10 pmMCMetal Says:
It would be better for all concerned if it were copied and sent to the mental health professionals at Bellevue………
Only a New Yorker would say that…..am I right?
March 21st, 2008 at 4:10 pmBut I smell what you’re stepping in.
Holy crap! It looks like a troll exploded in here. I hope everyone has their hazmat suits.
March 21st, 2008 at 4:18 pmFred Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 4:10 pm
MCMetal Says:
It would be better for all concerned if it were copied and sent to the mental health professionals at Bellevue………
Only a New Yorker would say that…..am I right?
But I smell what you’re stepping in.
Wrong ………………..Jersey represent !!!!!!!!
March 21st, 2008 at 4:21 pmjason54301 Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:41 pm
“If you people had been in power in 1942, all of Europe, Asia, and Africa would be under German control.”
– Were you sleeping during history class? Do you truly not know that probably the ultimate progressive, Franklin Roosevelt was President in 1942?
“Hell, we probably would have allied with the Germans!!!”
– Which didn’t happen. We fought against the Germans. We won, along with the other Allied nations. And this was with one of “us” at the helm. You are so anxious to blame every ill in the world on progressives that you are willing to rewrite history to do so. When our leaders rewrite history, they look like fools. It’s the same for blog posters.
“3985 families of Soldiers who volunteered to join the military…”
– Actually, not all were volunteers. Those who had been ’stop-loss’ed certainly weren’t, even if they did volunteer when they first joined up. However, when the U.S. wouldn’t let them go after the term for which they volunteered was up, they were no longer volunteers, they were draftees.
“…knowing full well that they were putting themselves in harms way…”
– not all of them “knew” what they were getting into. Those who were already in the service before the invasion (especially those who joined up immediately after 9/11) trusted the government to ask them to fight only battles that were just, and causes that directly had to do with defending our country. Yes, they knew they could die fighting for a righteous cause. But it’s a stretch to imagine they all knew they would wind up being sitting ducks in a lost cause quagmire with no end in sight. This is especially true of the National Guard, most of whom thought their service would consist of fighting disasters back home.
“…to protect the freedom of an ungrateful slug like yourself to call their sacrifices useless.”
– The gratuitous insult doesn’t enhance your post, but that’s a small point. The bigger point here is the myth that dying in Iraq has something to do with our freedom. It doesn’t. As much as the warmongers and fear squad try to make us believe that terrorists will come marching down Main Street USA if we don’t continue to occupy Iraq, it’s not convincing. There are plenty of terrorists in the world (and our occupation of Iraq is effectively recruiting more and more of them every day). If they wanted to march down Main Street right now, the conflict in Iraq wouldn’t stop them. In fact, since our National Guard is over there, we would be hard pressed to deal with a significant terrorist attack here. And just because we recognize that Iraq is not a cause worth dying for doesn’t mean we don’t weep for every soldier that has been killed there.
“You are a truly ugly and pathetic being.”
March 21st, 2008 at 4:32 pm– Name calling and personal attacks generally indicate that you’ve run out of debate that’s to the point.
jason54301 Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Hugo Chavez is not a dictator??? The guy that has shut down communications in the country to silent dissent against him? The guy the TOOK CONTROL OF THE OIL COMPANIES is not a dictator???
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I’m not one for arguing with trolls. But I must dispute the claim that Hugo Chavez is a dictator. I apologize for this long post but it is necessary.
…President Hugo Chávez and his government have won multiple elections that were characterized as free and fair by international observers.
For example, this is what the Carter Center delegation said about the 2004 presidential recall referendum:
Indeed, here’s what the U.S. State Department’s Bureau of Western Hemisphere Affairs wrote last October about the elections in 1998 and 1999 – this is on the State Department’s web page:
On January 31 of this year, the Miami Herald reported,
March 21st, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Bush/Chenney & Co. have no creativity… they use the same technique over and over again. They repeat their lies constantly. Everytime they speak in public they lie. They are dying to attack Iran. The same way when he first occupy the WH, before 9/11, he had plans to attack Iraq. This scumbag should be arrested imediatly. And that would happen if the USA was a serious country… or what is left of the USA was a serious matter.
March 21st, 2008 at 4:54 pm2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 4:45 pm
jason54301 Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Hugo Chavez is not a dictator??? The guy that has shut down communications in the country to silent dissent against him? The guy the TOOK CONTROL OF THE OIL COMPANIES is not a dictator???
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Those tv stations were advocating the overthrow of the Chavez government. That’s seditious. They people behind the station should’ve been imprisoned.
Its up to the Venezuelan people to decide if they want their oil nationalized. They obviously support it because they elected Hugo Chavez. Many countries nationalize their oil. It’s none of our business what they do with their oil. Chavez is using the profits to rebuild his country and help the poor.
We overthrew the Democratically elected government of Iran in 1953 because they were planning on nationalizing their oil. That brought the Shah into power. And it led to the hostage crisis of 1979. Once again, in 2008, Iran wants even more control over their oil. They opened up their own trading “bourse” that no longer accepts American dollars. Not surprisingly the U.S. is planning to attack Iran. To any logical observer Iran is not the problem, Nationalizing Oil is not the problem. The problem is US!
March 21st, 2008 at 4:55 pmjason54301 Venezuela is much more of a democracy than the current USA will ever be! WATCH ‘WAR ON DEMOCRACY’ BY JOHN PILGER, ON YOU TUBE. A Tyrant does not provide for the poor! And last time I checked, Bush is the one occupying another country, killing and torturing people. And neglecting its own people’s needs. Just watch what happen when Katrina hit! Or look at the state of your health care system, or check out your ecenomy! Its easy to call someone Tyrant, terrorists and insurgencies. What is dificult for Bush is to tell the TRUTH! Viva Hugo Chavez! Viva Evo Morales! Viva Rafael Correa! Viva a los ideales de Simon Bolivar! And F…ck the Monroe doctrine!
March 21st, 2008 at 5:01 pmWatch “WAR ON DEMOCRACY” a film by John Pilger on YOUTUBE!
March 21st, 2008 at 5:03 pm… it is a Historical joke to claim the USA promotes democracy! I grew up in Brazil under 25 years of military dictatorship financed and promoted by the USA! The same happened throughout the whole continent! Military dictatorships financed and supported by criminals in Washington. We had our military trained on torture technique in the ‘School of the Americas’ in the USA! The USA has zero credibility to talk about ‘freedom and Democracy’! Zero! Zilt! None whatsoever! And here we have a War Criminal in chief, calling everybodyelse Tyrants, Terrorists. Check the USA’s history in arming terrorists milicias in Nicaragua in order to destry a democractic elected president in the 80’s! WATCH ‘WAR ON DEMOCRACY’, a film by John Pilger, on YOUTUBE! There you can see what those criminal TV station were doing together with the criminal/Terrorist/Facist/lier USA government!
March 21st, 2008 at 5:11 pmThere is nothing to be proud about having an administration where all its members are WAR CRIMINALS!
March 21st, 2008 at 5:17 pmIf we had a country of fair minded, even-handed political figures in both houses of congress, our elected officials would not only move for impeachment of both Bush-Cheney, but try them both as war criminals. Like “sacopenepa” says above, it is in fact a joke that we promote democracy. We have never met a dictator we didn’t love – unless of course – they don’t play ball with us.
March 21st, 2008 at 5:20 pm…and I’m using the US’s own defitions of what a War Criminal/Terrorist is!
March 21st, 2008 at 5:21 pmAnyone counting the administration lies about Iran? There were 935 about Iraq.
March 21st, 2008 at 5:35 pmthemancaredonce Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Keep on pushing forward Bush show these damn pro’s how to run a country!!!
Obama, like many presidential candidates, has no military experience. As a first-term U.S. senator, he also has little formal experience in foreign policy.
ok – sounds a bit like george bush – no military experience and clueless on foreign policy.
March 21st, 2008 at 5:41 pmBush has always been, and will always be, a liar.
March 21st, 2008 at 8:28 pmIran: No nukes, terrorism, or threats to other countries.
There is no evidence (not withstanding the most recent NIE) that Iran has ever had a nuclear weapons program or any desire to have one.
Ahmadinejad has consistently said he wants peace with all nations and has not threatened to attack any nation (other than in self-defense). It should be noted that, unlike almost virtually all western nations, Iran has not attacked another country in two centuries.
To Bilbo Hussein Baggins #31:
Your comment is not quite accurate. You are right in one way; Ahmadinejad never said he wanted to wipe Israel off the map. But neither did he ever say he wanted to wipe the rulers of Israel off the map. In the speech Ahmadinejad never mentioned the words Israel, wipe, OR map. (In fact there are no words or phrases in Farsi that resemble the phrase “wipe off the map”.) He listed several murderous tyrannical governments that had (peacefully, by the way) “disappeared from the pages of time”. He was giving hope that there would someday be regime change relieving Jerusalem from brutal tyranny.
Again, Ahmadinejad has consistently said he wants peace with all nations.
Peace, JK
March 21st, 2008 at 10:53 pmmissmolly #185:
Great post as usual. Thanks for your many knowledgeable, logical, and pertinent comments especially those that debunk common (but destructive and dangerous) myths and dis-Info propaganda talking points.
JK
March 21st, 2008 at 11:05 pm>or have you not really thought this through ?
Have you? By your own argument that we should listen to words more than deeds (if that what your saying i agree with that), then we should look to modern Irans history of invading nations (or thier lack of doing so), rather than thier inflamatory rhetoric.
Not sure why you even mention Irans involvement with Hezbollah, etc, anyone who isnt naive knows just about every country with any degree of power funds groups who engage in asymetrical proxy wars to further thier interests. By your argument israels support of lebanese christian militias who sometimes acted very brutally and committed warcrimes during lebanons civil war would logically lead us to beleive that israel is some sort of threat just like iran is, correct?
Thanks for your thoughts but your one way thinking doesnt past the smell test..
March 22nd, 2008 at 7:47 amConsidering how many of Bush’s statements over the past seven-odd years have been shown to be at best highly inaccurate (if not outright lies), why anyone with two functioning brain cells to rub together would believe anything this man has to say is beyond me.
March 22nd, 2008 at 10:26 am