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	<title>Comments on: McCain and Clinton&#8217;s passport files also breached.</title>
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		<title>By: Chocolate Jesus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/21/mccain-and-clintons-passport-files-breached-as-well/comment-page-2/#comment-4409398</link>
		<dc:creator>Chocolate Jesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 08:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;I agree. I suspect they are claiming the other two breaches &gt;to deflect the attention from the three Obama breaches.

I second your agreement. They cant have Obama looking like a a victim or a martyr... a fascinating struggle on a grand chessboard is being played out here....it literally is the people versus the machine...obama is no saint, but if he wins, I beleive alot of scumbags and parasites in suits are going to lose their golden eggs and many will go to jail, so he has my support...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;I agree. I suspect they are claiming the other two breaches &gt;to deflect the attention from the three Obama breaches.</p>
<p>I second your agreement. They cant have Obama looking like a a victim or a martyr&#8230; a fascinating struggle on a grand chessboard is being played out here&#8230;.it literally is the people versus the machine&#8230;obama is no saint, but if he wins, I beleive alot of scumbags and parasites in suits are going to lose their golden eggs and many will go to jail, so he has my support&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4409398', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bad Eye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bad Eye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the Righties claim that we can trust Bush (er, the NSA) to not snoop into ordinary Americans&#039; lives re: the warrantless wiretapping program.

Uh-huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the Righties claim that we can trust Bush (er, the NSA) to not snoop into ordinary Americans&#8217; lives re: the warrantless wiretapping program.</p>
<p>Uh-huh.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4400234', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Exit Stage Left</title>
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		<dc:creator>Exit Stage Left</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make that the recipients are beholden to their benefactors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make that the recipients are beholden to their benefactors.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4398596', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Exit Stage Left</title>
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		<dc:creator>Exit Stage Left</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The benefactors of the privatization trend are beholden to those who bestow the zillion dollar contracts. They do what they are told, with no fear of reprisal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The benefactors of the privatization trend are beholden to those who bestow the zillion dollar contracts. They do what they are told, with no fear of reprisal.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4398550', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: flavorino</title>
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		<dc:creator>flavorino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The State Department are the last people you can expect to be telling the truth.
Normally this would have been immediately referred to their Inspector General, who was &#039;Cookie&#039; Kongard.
However &#039;Cookie&#039; put on one spectacular performance when he got caught lying about his brother, Buzzy being on the board at Blackwater in front of one of Waxman&#039;s committees. 
He resigned days later to avoid being called to testify again.
THIS WAS THE GUY IN CHARGE OF CONDUCTING INVESTIGATIONS AT THE STATE DEPT. It was widely reported that he was doing the opposite. 
As the old Sicilian saying goes, the fish stinks from the head. Condi&#039;s a VERY good liar, very convincing, but still a pathological liar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The State Department are the last people you can expect to be telling the truth.<br />
Normally this would have been immediately referred to their Inspector General, who was &#8216;Cookie&#8217; Kongard.<br />
However &#8216;Cookie&#8217; put on one spectacular performance when he got caught lying about his brother, Buzzy being on the board at Blackwater in front of one of Waxman&#8217;s committees.<br />
He resigned days later to avoid being called to testify again.<br />
THIS WAS THE GUY IN CHARGE OF CONDUCTING INVESTIGATIONS AT THE STATE DEPT. It was widely reported that he was doing the opposite.<br />
As the old Sicilian saying goes, the fish stinks from the head. Condi&#8217;s a VERY good liar, very convincing, but still a pathological liar.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4398450', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: flavorino</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/21/mccain-and-clintons-passport-files-breached-as-well/comment-page-2/#comment-4398232</link>
		<dc:creator>flavorino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 22:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Badger Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 1:38 pm

I don’t buy the BS about McCain and Clinton’s files being accessed too. It’s way too convenient.

The contract employees who accessed Obama’s files were FIRED.
The contract employees who accessed Clinton and McCain’s files were NOT FIRED.

Why would that be the case?&lt;/em&gt;

I agree, this definitely doesn&#039;t pass the sniff test.
The claims about Clinton and McCain seem to be last minute add-ons for damage control or to allay suspicion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Badger Says:<br />
March 21st, 2008 at 1:38 pm</p>
<p>I don’t buy the BS about McCain and Clinton’s files being accessed too. It’s way too convenient.</p>
<p>The contract employees who accessed Obama’s files were FIRED.<br />
The contract employees who accessed Clinton and McCain’s files were NOT FIRED.</p>
<p>Why would that be the case?</em></p>
<p>I agree, this definitely doesn&#8217;t pass the sniff test.<br />
The claims about Clinton and McCain seem to be last minute add-ons for damage control or to allay suspicion.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4398232', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: abarts</title>
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		<dc:creator>abarts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope this will shut people up saying that HILLARY is behind it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope this will shut people up saying that HILLARY is behind it!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4396568', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: chasemonster</title>
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		<dc:creator>chasemonster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly! A lie.
They added McCain&#039;s name to throw smoke over the whole mess.
Where&#039;s the proof?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly! A lie.<br />
They added McCain&#8217;s name to throw smoke over the whole mess.<br />
Where&#8217;s the proof?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4395040', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: FRANKCORNBREAD</title>
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		<dc:creator>FRANKCORNBREAD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a lie to diffuse the fact that they were targeting Obama.

FC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a lie to diffuse the fact that they were targeting Obama.</p>
<p>FC<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4394558', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Proud American Liberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Proud American Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You expect confidentiality with contractors? I&#039;ve been working as a contractor in the private sector for the last nine years. You can do all the security background checks and sign all the confidentiality agreements you want. With the number of contractors being used in the public and the private sector, there is no such thing as internal security anymore. It&#039;s just not possible. There&#039;s too many people going through the revolving doors. If you use contractors in your business, your company information is pubic property. Count on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You expect confidentiality with contractors? I&#8217;ve been working as a contractor in the private sector for the last nine years. You can do all the security background checks and sign all the confidentiality agreements you want. With the number of contractors being used in the public and the private sector, there is no such thing as internal security anymore. It&#8217;s just not possible. There&#8217;s too many people going through the revolving doors. If you use contractors in your business, your company information is pubic property. Count on that.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4394294', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EtherealStrife</title>
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		<dc:creator>EtherealStrife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@missmolly

A SSN opens a whole can of worms. Been charged for a little gay PPV? Dined at a restaurant that has nefarious political connections? Just about anything can be dredged up with enough time along with the passport file info. 

And wow TP your hillary-worship rears its ugly head once again. Her ONE file breach was IMMEDIATELY reported (it was an accident during employee training). Leaving just Obama and McCain. I&#039;m putting my money on a clintonian having done the deed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@missmolly</p>
<p>A SSN opens a whole can of worms. Been charged for a little gay PPV? Dined at a restaurant that has nefarious political connections? Just about anything can be dredged up with enough time along with the passport file info. </p>
<p>And wow TP your hillary-worship rears its ugly head once again. Her ONE file breach was IMMEDIATELY reported (it was an accident during employee training). Leaving just Obama and McCain. I&#8217;m putting my money on a clintonian having done the deed.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4394172', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: nycbassist</title>
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		<dc:creator>nycbassist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somehow, I suspect that they just SAID they went into all three candidates files to avoid the look of spying being done for political gain.  Yes.. I am that cynical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow, I suspect that they just SAID they went into all three candidates files to avoid the look of spying being done for political gain.  Yes.. I am that cynical.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4393918', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: 5th Estate</title>
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		<dc:creator>5th Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>back to this thread:

apparently all the info in the passport file can be found in dozens of other databases so what&#039;s unique?

Answer: Passport number.

Now waht can be done with that? Can that be used to plug in to another database. It would be a very uncommon &quot;keyword&quot; or identifier that might not raise any electronic flags in another system---of course that would mean there would have to be field allowing the search term. 

This may all be much ado about nothing other than contractors breaking the rules. 

But if not, maybe the passport numbers are the key? If so, what are the locks that they open? 

Aah, it&#039;s probably nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>back to this thread:</p>
<p>apparently all the info in the passport file can be found in dozens of other databases so what&#8217;s unique?</p>
<p>Answer: Passport number.</p>
<p>Now waht can be done with that? Can that be used to plug in to another database. It would be a very uncommon &#8220;keyword&#8221; or identifier that might not raise any electronic flags in another system&#8212;of course that would mean there would have to be field allowing the search term. </p>
<p>This may all be much ado about nothing other than contractors breaking the rules. </p>
<p>But if not, maybe the passport numbers are the key? If so, what are the locks that they open? </p>
<p>Aah, it&#8217;s probably nothing.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4393058', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: 5th Estate</title>
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		<dc:creator>5th Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>V. Interesting
HUFFPO has a prominent post titled Maury Harty: State Dempartment Official In Charge During Breaches An Ambassador Under Clinton (posted 1.19 am March 21) 

&quot;Last night, MSNBC noted a Clinton connection to the story that Barack Obama&#039;s passport had been breached. The network reported that Maura Harty, the State Department official in charge of the Bureau Of Consular Affairs during the first two breaches of Obama&#039;s passport, had served as an ambassador under Bill Clinton.
Today, the State Department confirmed Hillary Clinton and John McCain&#039;s passport files had also been breached.

&quot;Harty was a Consular Affairs Chief until the end of last month when she retired from foreign service work. Before her stint as the Assistant Secretary of State of Consular Affairs, Harty was an Ambassador to Paraguay under President Bill Clinton,&quot; MSNBC reported. 

Harty began her State Department career in 1981. &lt;strong&gt;She worked for the Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton, and Bush administrations until she resigned February, 29.&quot;  &lt;/strong&gt;

So that deflates the Clinton operative implication doesn;t it? 

As of 1.40 pm today there has been no update to the story, even though it also bee reported that the breaches were not  
reported up the chain of command.

There IS a new Update Post top right which notes Clinton. McCains Passports breached&quot;

As Arianna is complaining (justifiably) about BillO&#039;s attacking of Ariann and Huffpo for its comments rather than the content of the posts and throwing &quot;fair anb balanced back in his face. I submitted a comment that the Maura Harty Breach post was deliberate misrepresentation and at least she had control over THAT and when was it going to be changed to reflect the truth rather continue prominently displaying the innuendo. 

I didn&#039;t swear or use any invective. I did note Arianna is an ex-Republican. 

My comment was NOT APPROVED--even though plenty of other commenters have remarked that the story as presented is a stretch. 

Of course I challenged Arianna directly to take respnbility for the post. Guess her staff didn&#039;t like that. 

They did allow a follow up though : 

&quot;I note also the choice to feature Sam Steins &quot;Clinton Ethics&quot; piece directly below the &quot;Maura Harty&quot; dsitortion . Coincedence?&quot; 

Ariana always impresses me when I see her on TV in a hostile environment, relaxed and sharp. But I really think she&#039;s got a personal beef with Clinton--at least the HUFFPO never misses an excuse to work against Hillary, no matter how tenuous the reason, and Arianna clearly does nothing to discourage that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V. Interesting<br />
HUFFPO has a prominent post titled Maury Harty: State Dempartment Official In Charge During Breaches An Ambassador Under Clinton (posted 1.19 am March 21) </p>
<p>&#8220;Last night, MSNBC noted a Clinton connection to the story that Barack Obama&#8217;s passport had been breached. The network reported that Maura Harty, the State Department official in charge of the Bureau Of Consular Affairs during the first two breaches of Obama&#8217;s passport, had served as an ambassador under Bill Clinton.<br />
Today, the State Department confirmed Hillary Clinton and John McCain&#8217;s passport files had also been breached.</p>
<p>&#8220;Harty was a Consular Affairs Chief until the end of last month when she retired from foreign service work. Before her stint as the Assistant Secretary of State of Consular Affairs, Harty was an Ambassador to Paraguay under President Bill Clinton,&#8221; MSNBC reported. </p>
<p>Harty began her State Department career in 1981. <strong>She worked for the Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton, and Bush administrations until she resigned February, 29.&#8221;  </strong></p>
<p>So that deflates the Clinton operative implication doesn;t it? </p>
<p>As of 1.40 pm today there has been no update to the story, even though it also bee reported that the breaches were not<br />
reported up the chain of command.</p>
<p>There IS a new Update Post top right which notes Clinton. McCains Passports breached&#8221;</p>
<p>As Arianna is complaining (justifiably) about BillO&#8217;s attacking of Ariann and Huffpo for its comments rather than the content of the posts and throwing &#8220;fair anb balanced back in his face. I submitted a comment that the Maura Harty Breach post was deliberate misrepresentation and at least she had control over THAT and when was it going to be changed to reflect the truth rather continue prominently displaying the innuendo. </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t swear or use any invective. I did note Arianna is an ex-Republican. </p>
<p>My comment was NOT APPROVED&#8211;even though plenty of other commenters have remarked that the story as presented is a stretch. </p>
<p>Of course I challenged Arianna directly to take respnbility for the post. Guess her staff didn&#8217;t like that. </p>
<p>They did allow a follow up though : </p>
<p>&#8220;I note also the choice to feature Sam Steins &#8220;Clinton Ethics&#8221; piece directly below the &#8220;Maura Harty&#8221; dsitortion . Coincedence?&#8221; </p>
<p>Ariana always impresses me when I see her on TV in a hostile environment, relaxed and sharp. But I really think she&#8217;s got a personal beef with Clinton&#8211;at least the HUFFPO never misses an excuse to work against Hillary, no matter how tenuous the reason, and Arianna clearly does nothing to discourage that.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4392806', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Badger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Badger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK I stand corrected.  2 out of three of the employees who accessed Obama&#039;s files were Fired.

NONE of the employees who accessed McCain&#039;s or Clinton&#039;s  files were fired.  The one employee who Accessed Obama And McCains files was NOT Fired.   WHY NOT?

Obviously, a Judgement was made as to the Seriousness or Innocense of the Accessing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK I stand corrected.  2 out of three of the employees who accessed Obama&#8217;s files were Fired.</p>
<p>NONE of the employees who accessed McCain&#8217;s or Clinton&#8217;s  files were fired.  The one employee who Accessed Obama And McCains files was NOT Fired.   WHY NOT?</p>
<p>Obviously, a Judgement was made as to the Seriousness or Innocense of the Accessing.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4392548', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ennealogic</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/21/mccain-and-clintons-passport-files-breached-as-well/comment-page-2/#comment-4392526</link>
		<dc:creator>ennealogic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why even release any of this information now?  Apparently it was covered up for several months.  Why make it public?  Who blew the whistle that Obama&#039;s records were peeked at and why?

According to an NPR report, there is an automatic detection system in place, which is how the breaches were noticed in the first place.  But reportedly, the breaches were not passed up the ladder until just yesterday.  Why then?  I don&#039;t get it.

As for McCain and Clinton having suffered the peeking too, I don&#039;t buy it.  Those breaches either occurred earlier or at the same time so if they were real, why was only Obama&#039;s brought to the attention of the top levels of the State Department and the other two a good 24 hours afterwards?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why even release any of this information now?  Apparently it was covered up for several months.  Why make it public?  Who blew the whistle that Obama&#8217;s records were peeked at and why?</p>
<p>According to an NPR report, there is an automatic detection system in place, which is how the breaches were noticed in the first place.  But reportedly, the breaches were not passed up the ladder until just yesterday.  Why then?  I don&#8217;t get it.</p>
<p>As for McCain and Clinton having suffered the peeking too, I don&#8217;t buy it.  Those breaches either occurred earlier or at the same time so if they were real, why was only Obama&#8217;s brought to the attention of the top levels of the State Department and the other two a good 24 hours afterwards?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4392526', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is getting to funny when the liars can&#039;t keep what with the lies. Now everyone knows when Bill ran for President the Republican controlled State Department looked in his file illegally.  Now one day it&#039;s reported Obama then to cover up the political spying the State Dep. adds McCain and Hillary. Even a blind person could see this is a cover up. This election will get more dirty and racist as Republican will even kill to stay in office to continue to steal and commit crimes. The oil is more important than even Americans or Soldier with this White House.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is getting to funny when the liars can&#8217;t keep what with the lies. Now everyone knows when Bill ran for President the Republican controlled State Department looked in his file illegally.  Now one day it&#8217;s reported Obama then to cover up the political spying the State Dep. adds McCain and Hillary. Even a blind person could see this is a cover up. This election will get more dirty and racist as Republican will even kill to stay in office to continue to steal and commit crimes. The oil is more important than even Americans or Soldier with this White House.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4392342', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Linus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/21/mccain-and-clintons-passport-files-breached-as-well/comment-page-2/#comment-4392218</link>
		<dc:creator>Linus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re #47:  BadgerSays says: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t buy the BS about McCain and Clinton’s files being accessed too. It’s way too convenient.

The contract employees who accessed Obama’s files were FIRED.
The contract employees who accessed Clinton and McCain’s files were NOT FIRED. 

Why would that be the case??&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Beacsue that&#039;s not exactly the case.  There were 4 breaches involving 4 employees. Breach #1 (Nov &#039;07 - Clinton) occurred during a training exercise and the employee was not fired.  Breaches #2 &amp; #3 (Jan 9 &amp; Feb 21 - Obama) resulted in the firing of the 2 employees responsible.  The employee responsible for Breach #4 (Mar 14 - Obama &lt;strong&gt;and&lt;/strong&gt; McCain) was not fired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #47:  BadgerSays says: </p>
<blockquote><p>I don’t buy the BS about McCain and Clinton’s files being accessed too. It’s way too convenient.</p>
<p>The contract employees who accessed Obama’s files were FIRED.<br />
The contract employees who accessed Clinton and McCain’s files were NOT FIRED. </p>
<p>Why would that be the case??</p></blockquote>
<p>Beacsue that&#8217;s not exactly the case.  There were 4 breaches involving 4 employees. Breach #1 (Nov &#8216;07 &#8211; Clinton) occurred during a training exercise and the employee was not fired.  Breaches #2 &amp; #3 (Jan 9 &amp; Feb 21 &#8211; Obama) resulted in the firing of the 2 employees responsible.  The employee responsible for Breach #4 (Mar 14 &#8211; Obama <strong>and</strong> McCain) was not fired.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4392218', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I can’t understand the validity of travel records as blackmail material, either.&quot; 

Passport info alone, maybe not, but perhaps one could make the case that this, along with other records that don&#039;t have a &quot;trip-wire&quot;, were accessed to build a profile.

Bush has already admitted to data-mining all kinds of useless information on the American people.  Their thinking could be that you never know when some of that information could become useful. 

Again, it&#039;s just speculation, but something obviously isn&#039;t right here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I can’t understand the validity of travel records as blackmail material, either.&#8221; </p>
<p>Passport info alone, maybe not, but perhaps one could make the case that this, along with other records that don&#8217;t have a &#8220;trip-wire&#8221;, were accessed to build a profile.</p>
<p>Bush has already admitted to data-mining all kinds of useless information on the American people.  Their thinking could be that you never know when some of that information could become useful. </p>
<p>Again, it&#8217;s just speculation, but something obviously isn&#8217;t right here.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4391648', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Parrotlover77</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/21/mccain-and-clintons-passport-files-breached-as-well/comment-page-1/#comment-4391380</link>
		<dc:creator>Parrotlover77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, if we privatized more government services, quality would be better, it would cost less, and be more secure... errr.... oops.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, if we privatized more government services, quality would be better, it would cost less, and be more secure&#8230; errr&#8230;. oops.<br />
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