In an interview with Newsbusters, former Bush adviser Karl Rove claimed that the conservative blogosphere “has much better quality and quantity” than the progressive blogosphere. Calling left-leaning blogs “unpersuasive,” Rove said “they are, most of them are hate-filled, obscenity-clogged rants of anger and hatred.” Rove has made similar netroots bashing comments before, claiming in a speech last year that bloggers are “nutty,” “vitriolic,” and “kooks.”
Yo Karl, suck my —, —— —– ——–, you —— ——-.
March 21st, 2008 at 11:57 amKarl Rove is an obscenity.
March 21st, 2008 at 11:58 amSorry I flared, kids.
March 21st, 2008 at 11:58 amKarl Rove, Member, Coalition of the Hating
Rove is pus-filled and artery-clogged.
March 21st, 2008 at 11:59 amBadmoodman Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 11:58 am
No problem Bman – it was well deserved.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:00 pmObviously he is confused, has he ever been to a conservative site at all? Go to one, you will see some of the worst grammar and butchering of the english language that you have ever seen. And talk about anti-american views, wow, they are complete and total ChristoFascist nutcases.
Oh, and Rove, go Cheney yourself, hard, with a rubber Gannon fist.
Bush/Cheney/Rove
March 21st, 2008 at 12:00 pmHague Trials ‘09
hmmm karl I can think of another thing that is both “hate filled” and “clogged”
just sayin…
March 21st, 2008 at 12:00 pmSeeing Karl rolling in flour and Crisco would be too funny to hate.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:02 pmKarl Rove is a psychopath.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:04 pmMcWars Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 12:02 pm
Then just fry ‘em up, right? How fitting.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:05 pmNeocons are such gentle(wo)men for all the destruction they inflict, the incompetence they display.
Stay strong, neocons! It’s all about protecting your image!
March 21st, 2008 at 12:06 pmWe need to start ignoring GiGi, that idiot is creating way too much disruption on this site. You guys do know that GiGi is a PAID TROLL, paid to disrupt and you are helping that scum by responding to it.
So please get it together and IGNORE GiGi.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:06 pmTP, please spare us from any further “Karl Rove said” posts. He has no credibility with anyone here. War, not blogged comment is obscene, rover! War is obscene!
March 21st, 2008 at 12:08 pm# Tstatguy Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 12:05 pm
That is the last step! Or you could preheat the oven at 450 degrees and have a baked Potarove.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:08 pm“nutty,” “vitriolic,” and “kooks.”
but he’s not into name calling.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:10 pmThis is standard right-wing playbook stuff, some would say a Rovian tactic. Take your greatest weakness and apply it to your opponent.
In this case, we contrast right-wing blogs filled with neo-fascist hate speech, diatribes against gays, immigrants, minorities, etc. against left-wing blogs which are understandably upset about a government which is no longer accountable to the American people and is conducting a pre-emptive war based on a false premise, and doing it badly.
The goal of Rove is to conflate truly odious speech, filled with bigotry and hateful divisive rhetoric, with citizens exercising their duty as Americans to question their governments actions.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:10 pmOh, and Rodham gin, go Cheney yourself, hard, with a rubber Gannon fist.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:10 pmPo, po Karly. Your party has thrown this nation under the bus. You should expect obscenity laden communications directed at you for the rest of your life.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:11 pmNot to mention the flaming bags of dog crap that should be left on your doorstep daily. Ding, Dong!
McWars Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 12:08 pm
LOL! Yeah, but you know it’ll just taste putrid – you know, kinda like garbage in, garbage out.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:12 pmBuckie Boy Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 12:10 pm
we can feed ginny but we can’t feed kkk gg?
March 21st, 2008 at 12:14 pmI think out of some 2,800 posts on four blogs, I got mad enough to use the f word 5 times. Most of my links are to news sources, SEC reports, even the White House web site. Sorry Karl, I’ve read more cursing from right wingers on one thread of my local papers message board than the lifetime of my blogs.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:15 pmHate-filled Hatred?
Is there some other kind Karl?
Creme-filled hatred perhaps?
March 21st, 2008 at 12:16 pmHere on TP, I see a lot of quality content and many thoughtful and interesting posts. However, I also see many obscenities, ad hominem attacks, general name-calling, and contributions to the discussion that are anything but helpful – many by my fellow progressives.
We have a few progressive posters here who feel it is their job to insult any opposing viewpoint, no matter how civilly presented.
We have some work to do to clean up our own yard.
That said — I have seen rightwing blogsites and comment boards, and they show every bit as much hatred and anger (and frequently more than I’ve EVER seen here).
I suspect that Karl Rove just lives by his own set of double-standards. A slam against a neocon is “hate speech”, but a slam against a progressive is “free speech”. He probably looks at the vitriolic diatribes on the righty sites and honestly doesn’t see them as offensive.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:16 pmHey neoconshits –
Our hate-filled words are finely articulating your hate-filled actions, in invading someone else’s country and harming the standing of the United States.
But you idiots go on believing that words pose more danger than actions.
Go f u c k yourselves. That will be your new full-time job in 10 months.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:16 pmJoe cantwell, LOL….yeah, but Rotten Gin doesn’t spam the site like GiGi, I like wack-a-troll sometimes too, but GiGi has gotten out of hand.
On Rove, had a thought about the fried Rove comments..from the movie Blade III
“No fatties, they taste like cheetos.”
March 21st, 2008 at 12:17 pmHere’s an interesting note.
On Redstate, the lead article is about an Obama press release bashing Hillary’s honesty.
However, the link goes to a Time article by Mark Halperin, where it appears to be a bogus memo… Nothing on the Obama web site re: Hillary’s honesty.
Just another dishonest trick, Rovian crap. Go Cheney yourself with some rusty barbed wire, you POS.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:18 pmHate-filled, as in Cheney’s “go fcuk yourself” moment on the Senate floor?
March 21st, 2008 at 12:19 pmOo, Oo, themanthatcantspell is in da house.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:21 pmmissmolly Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Ahhh, mm is always the voice of reason. Some should pay heed to what she said and clean up their posts just a little. Some more tolerance of opposing views is in order, but intolerance is deserved and understandable when obvious trolls are stinking up the place.
Just an opinion.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:22 pmHot Karl, the big stinky pant-load is projecting again.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:24 pmAgreed, missmolly. There are a few progressive trolls here — not many, but we all know who they are.
Also, I don’t have much experience on righty blogs, and the few times I have been on one, the cmments have been pretty orderly, not much vitriol really. Of course, that’s easy to maintain when everyone agrees with everyone else.
What I haven’t seen on those blogs is any vigorous progressive or liberal presence — certainly nothing like the conservative infestations we get here.
If that makes Karl Rove happy to point to the supposed decorum of right wing bloggers, so be it. It’s not ike he’s a slave to the truth, anyway.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:25 pmJust so we’re clear, supporting policies of murder are okay, but speaking out against them is to be considered “hate-filled”.
Got it.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:25 pmIn the immortal words of Doc Holliday, Karl Rove can kiss my rebel dick.
Is that hate-filled and vitriolic enough?
March 21st, 2008 at 12:25 pmRove’s a right-wing Svengali. “Don’t listen to anyone except who I tell you to, then eeeeeeverything will be all right.”
He’s also so full of crap he squishes when he walks.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:26 pmNo doubt Rove has SAVED all the thousands of hate comments he’s seen and will release them all forthwith to prove his case.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:26 pm“has much better quality and quantity”
Two points…
1. I can name 5 progressive blogs to one right-wing blog. Does that mean that I am more inclined to ignore the vast right-wing blogosphere based on my views, or is Rove talking out of his posterior.
2. This just in, I like people that agree with me.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:27 pm5th Estate Says:
No doubt Rove has SAVED all the thousands of hate comments he’s seen and will release them all forthwith to prove his case.
No doubt. After all, what are the chances that one would lose all of his electronic correspondance over a specified time period?
March 21st, 2008 at 12:29 pmKarl Rove saying conservative blogs are better than progressive blogs is nothing short of laughable. All they do is lie and repeat the same mantras and chest thumping like goraillas at a zoo. Well, Karl, I’m going to do you a favor and prove you right just this one time you worthless, treasonous piece of shit. How many lives have you destroyed
March 21st, 2008 at 12:30 pmco(ksucker? You are the lowest form of bottom feeding, scum this Earth has ever known. I put you in the same category as John Wayne Gacy and Jeffrey Dahmer you sick bastard. Why don’t you do us all a favor in return for once and walk in front of a bus because that’s what perversions of humanity like you deserve.
I was having a conversation with 99lufballoons a month ago. I was only trying to reasonably questioning some of the more sensational claims of global warming proponents.
I was reasonable – you can go back and check the context, but here’s where the conversation went:
99Luf Balloons Says:
February 23rd, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Well back’emup,
I understand the frustrations that accompany political differences. The insults, threats and profanity don’t make the site more credible. They detract. Without restraint, TP becomes less credible and more irrelevant. I believe that’s not going to further the goals of progressives to make the world a better place.
I suggest instead of banning people from the site, those who post here should police their own. If members stray into unproductive profanity, insults or threats – each should personally intercede to bring that member back to a more productive debate. Appeasing or ignoring the radical comments suggests concurrence and dilutes the reasonable message that progressives might hope to spread.
It’s up to each of us, whether this place will really be a catalyst to promote progress towards a better future, or whether it will decay into nothing more than a limited community of radical, unproductive rants.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:30 pmI keep forgetting that KKKarl Rove doesn`t like the TRUTH, how unfortunate for him. KKKarl you your fellow CHIMPS can go straight to IRAQ and due your duty for AMERICA on the front lines. Now, wouldn`t that be “ROMANTIC”. What a Creep!!!!!!
It`s really amazing how these CHIMPS can say all of these hateful remarks and when we progressives call them out on it they cry like babies.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:32 pmNothing like the civility, the love peace and understanding on rightwing sites..
March 21st, 2008 at 12:34 pmhttp://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/03/20/draft-racist-remarks-on-fox-news-website-where-is-oreillys-crack-team-now/
So the uneducated, bigoted, unpatriotic, treasonous, dishonest, disfunctional family situation, thief is not happy with our side. Boo friggen hoo!
Listen up KKKarl: When you shed your right side skin, take a look at what the progressives are trying to accomplish.
Karl is rude to Patrick leahy, and dear karl thinks we progressives are rude. I think they call that projection?
March 21st, 2008 at 12:36 pmmissmolly.
I don’t post on right-wing sites. Thinkprogress is really the only place I find interesting. I don’t think vitriol is a conservative or a liberal (progressive) issue. I’m sure there are right wing sites that are every bit as hate filled as the worst day here.
But, regardless of whose spreading the hate, it’s still not the right avenue to make things better.
It’s one of the reasons, I like Barrack Obama. He seems like he can thrive without it.
You’re posts are always reasonable. Thanks.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:38 pmAnd yet again Rove looks in the mirror, describing himself. Which is all he is ultimately capable of focussing on. Try any angle as you might, but as in some surreal nightmare scenario, you only catch your own image, Karl, when you spew.
Good-bye to Karl, & very soon.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:41 pmPut this one in stone: This will be the ONLY time I ever agree with Rove (to a degree) (and I STRONGLY disagree with him that the left is worse than the right. The complete opposite is true. The right wing blogs tend to contain nothing other than hatred mixed with paranoia. Apparently, even when they held all branches of government, people were still Out To Get Them).
I have to admit that some of the blog comments here and elsewhere do cross the line to the inappropriate. As bad as the conduct of the B-Team is, we must be better than they are. We must attack their positions without lowering our own standards. Too often I have seen that here and I’m disappointed.
As I said though, I will take the quality of comments on this blog any day over some of the strange right wing garbage that I see.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:52 pmIt all depends on what your definition of hate filled is. Rove obvously hates the truth
March 21st, 2008 at 12:52 pmSince Rove may not be totally deluded, we have to accept that he is aware of his lying with these comments. All one has to do is visit various blog sites to understand quickly that the vast majority of hate, smears, and lies come from the right. Perhaps this is because what most right-wing bloggers use as ‘facts’ are just the reverse- lies, innuendoes, distortions put forth by Fox, Limbaugh, etc. It is certainly also due to the fact that Rove, and the Repub media machine, base all their methods on attacks- attacks of anyone who disagrees, and attacks on the majority of Americans, who they constantly label ‘unpatriotic’, ‘treasonous’, etc. every time those Americans voice a view different from Rove et al. The language of many of these Repub supporters is vile and hateful, often targeting women, gays, and ethnic groups.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:54 pmSince you went there Karl, I’ll pay along. You spit venom at people and then claim they started it. Just like the visit to the University of Iowa. When people disagreed with you comments you started calling them names. You called on man “stupid” also said he was a “nobody and not important”, I mean come on man. Don’t you read your own press clippings?
In fact I wrote to the President of the University complaining about the way you treated people who questioned your comments. And I have the e-mail the University President’s office sent me. So why this man would say such stupid things is beyond me. Clearly Karl Rove is anti American and has used divisive political tactics to divide us along race, gender, and idealogy. This man will go down in history, not as a political genius, but as a joke.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:55 pmit’s actually conservative talk shows on TV and radio that are spewing the most hatred outside of Fred Phelps and white supremacist groups these days… and Rovey just landed a job with one – Fox News…
March 21st, 2008 at 12:57 pmApparently Rove doesn’t read conservative blogs because there is more than enough hate to go around in them.
Rove is just about the most partisan individual on the planet at this time.
March 21st, 2008 at 1:03 pmSo please get it together and IGNORE GiGi.
Don’t just ignore, flag. If enough of us flag this odious troll perhaps TP will finally take notice and do something about it.
March 21st, 2008 at 1:04 pmBuckie Boy Says:
Oo, Oo, themanthatcantspell is in da house.
Back with a slightly different name because TP won’t ban them by their IP address. Until they do, these banned trolls will keep popping back up like weeds.
March 21st, 2008 at 1:09 pmbackup Says:
It’s one of the reasons, I like Barrack Obama. He seems like he can thrive without it.
Ok, the Captain now wants us to believe that it is an Obama supporter. Right…it went through a complete and total transformation of it’s beliefs between the time that it was banned here and came back with a new identity.
March 21st, 2008 at 1:13 pmbackup Says:
progressives do get angry and frustrated and vent at times verbally…..for the most part and unless provoked though…..they are peace loving people when compared to almost anyone on the right.
Cases in point:
Violence against other members of same society by right leaning individuals:
violence against gays……..
abortion clinic murder and violence
violence against people of other color…racism.
etc.
You cannot make parallel comparisons for left leaning people as far as actual actions are concerned. Venting anger is perhaps unhealthy and unproductive but it is not the same as promoting and actually acting out the violence.
I would go further and say that any progressive anger you experience is provoked and not the normal nature of the progressive…..can’s say the same for the right wing….they are the ones who provoke the violence and hatred….
March 21st, 2008 at 1:18 pm# backup Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 12:30 pm
I was having a conversation with 99lufballoons a month ago. I was only trying to reasonably questioning some of the more sensational claims of global warming proponents.
I was reasonable – you can go back and check the context, but here’s where the conversation went:
99Luf Balloons Says:
February 23rd, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Well back’emup,
…I literally DEPSISE talking to the likes of you. I would rather just slit your throatsa and watch you all bleed out, as you are not human, you have no feeling, not even for your own kin. You are devoid of life.
I understand the frustrations that accompany political differences. The insults, threats and profanity don’t make the site more credible. They detract. Without restraint, TP becomes less credible and more irrelevant. I believe that’s not going to further the goals of progressives to make the world a better place.
I suggest instead of banning people from the site, those who post here should police their own. If members stray into unproductive profanity, insults or threats – each should personally intercede to bring that member back to a more productive debate. Appeasing or ignoring the radical comments suggests concurrence and dilutes the reasonable message that progressives might hope to spread.
It’s up to each of us, whether this place will really be a catalyst to promote progress towards a better future, or whether it will decay into nothing more than a limited community of radical, unproductive rants.
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For the longest time, I have asked that TP implement a system where out-of-control bloggers (good_golly on the right, arn gunnutes on the left, for instance) would not necessarily get a flag for their behavior (which would choke up TP’s work) but instead get a negative karma point. For an example of this in action, go to http://www.americablog.com, and check out their commenting system.
You still have the report abuse flag, but that’s only to be used when abuse actually happens. However, if GG were to suddenly be subjected to negative karma, plus a _real_ karma system that remembers how many times he’s been recommended down, then eventually, his Karma will go so low that preferences can be set to hide or mask his posts, and eventually, he’ll fall out of the conversation entirely. Same with arn gunnutes. As both will lose the attention they crave, they’ll eventually give up and go away, and eventually the system will learn and let us traffic ourselves.
Seriously, go check it out.
March 21st, 2008 at 1:18 pmCalling left-leaning blogs “unpersuasive,” Rove said “they are, most of them are hate-filled, obscenity-clogged rants of anger and hatred.” Rove has made similar netroots bashing comments before, claiming in a speech last year that bloggers are “nutty,” “vitriolic,” and “kooks.”
Ya think>
But if Widdle Wove is so upset, he can just start his own blog and complain about how noboy likes him….
Cheers,
March 21st, 2008 at 1:21 pmWhat an a$$….
March 21st, 2008 at 1:21 pmThe man who learned at the knee of the dirtiest trickster in politics, and took what he learned to an art form of wickedness has the brass balls to (mistakenly) accuse liberals of hate and vitriol. Certainly some of us are furious and frustrated with what we have seen in the past 8 years and we express that sentiment with great emotion, but the hatred, lies and bile that spews daily from the conservatives whose leaders have been in power for these eight years on their path toward destroying the America we know and love is simply hateful for the purpose of being hateful.
#63 Dr. H.M.
The example you post is one of many, many I have seen myself on conservative blogs — the KKK and other hate groups are thriving in the conservative blogosphere where they find solace in numbers there.
March 21st, 2008 at 1:37 pmHere’s a collection of the “reasonable” bloggers over at Faux Noise’s blogs. Remember, Rove is employed by Faux.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/03/20/draft-racist-remarks-on-fox-news-website-where-is-oreillys-crack-team-now/
March 21st, 2008 at 1:39 pmAnd Karl Rove’s credability outside of ideological extreme partisanship to speak on this matter with any sincereness and honest knowledge has been established how?
Rove is a man that places the republican party over America.
That the Constitution is not even second to his GOP’s rightful authority.
So let us keep Rove (turdblossom) in perspective. He is one guy in the media with one “opinion”. Sure he is in the midst of all the same Murdoch minions and their opinions. He doesn’t bring anything viable to the media that maulkin, Coulter, O Rielly et al have. He won’t last long in the private GOP media. His hiring is essentially to promote his loyalty to the president over the Constitution and Americans across the nation.
This opinionized media job must be embarrassing for the GOP and Rove. Remember, Wolfowitz was rewarded with the position at the world bank. But he abused that position and is back in the State Dept as a low leveler.
Bush didn’t even offer Rove an Ambassadorship to some country as the “Swift Boat Capt” of Kerry attacks received the Ambassadorship to Germany. Rove’s lifespan on Murdoch’s FOX is limited ideological corporate welfare in Rove’s case.
Your seeing Rove in his fading light…………….
March 21st, 2008 at 1:43 pmJeremy.
Karma concept sounds great. I’ll check it out.
March 21st, 2008 at 1:46 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Also, I don’t have much experience on righty blogs, and the few times I have been on one, the cmments have been pretty orderly, not much vitriol really. Of course, that’s easy to maintain when everyone agrees with everyone else.
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This is an excellent point — circle jerks are almost always fawningly civil.
No, when I said that I saw plenty of hate and vitriol on right wing sites, I meant that most of it was aimed at the target du jour — against Obama, against Hillary, against “libruls” in general, etc. etc.
March 21st, 2008 at 1:49 pmBilbo.
I checked out your site. The racist comments detract from anything reasonable the site might have to offer.
Again, I feel that the answer is not to ban those people (to steer their hate somewhere else) but to try to redirect them, with peer pressure.
I admit you’re not going to change some (or maybe most) that start off with that kind of sentiment. But, I suggest it’s worth a sincere effort and I feel that with a little patience, a would-be rejected ‘troll’ might be persuaded to consider progressive ideas. You know the ideas are strong. And even if you don’t get a pure convert, you might just get a moderation in their position. Isn’t that the only real possibility of significant change.
March 21st, 2008 at 1:55 pmPersonally, I don’t think we should agonize over criticism from the likes of Rove. In my experience, most all of the vitriol on this blog has been PROVOKED in such a systematic way that I can only conclude that it was intentional and strategic. I believe they provoke anger so they can dismiss our valid criticisms of policy as mere “hate”. When the administrators of the site added the capability for us to report abuse, the tone of the whole blog improved markedly.
For the most part, I believe we come here because we care passionately about the issues of the day. That is good and right. Also, on the whole we and our ideals have been abused wholesale by the current administration and its surrogates. When these surrogates appear as trolls to trigger our anger, we needn’t beat ourselves up too much over criticism of our civility toward them. I think we should just be more free about reporting them for abuse, and while we wait for them to be expelled, we should talk about them and not to them. Most have proven that they are not worthy of a reply. I find this is the best way for me to express my rage without broadcasting my hate. Our rage is justified, correct, and appropriate; our hate is justified too, but seldom constructive or beneficial, and I fear it does us more harm than good.
March 21st, 2008 at 1:59 pmI just hate it when pompous right wingers accuse the left of hate. LOL
March 21st, 2008 at 2:01 pmHey karl, who’s the minority, now?
Gee Karl, left wing blogs upset you. Well what if we didn’t have blogs to vent at. What did the French do when they had enough, oh yeah, they used the guillotine. And I was watching the miniseries on John Adams the other day where they tarred and feathered one of the king’s men. You should be glad we have these blogs because my guess is you’d be the first guy to be seized by the people should our frustrations overwhelm us because there was no other way to complain.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:04 pmbackup,
how about addressing the fact that the right wing is the party of hate and that pretty much defined their life.
can’t say the same about the progressives.
what say you about post # 59 since you say you are here to discuss….
March 21st, 2008 at 2:04 pmI can’t stomach wingnut blogs for long, however, I have noticed numerous instances where respectful dissenting opinions are removed. Hateful filth is encouraged as long as it isn’t directed at the criminals who are ruling this country.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:05 pmHey, Fred.
I don’t ignore you, but sometimes I’m busy with other stuff.
Fred, you’ve got a point. I obviously oppose violence against abortion clinic personnel, homosexuals and people of any race.
I would only make the point that those incidents are relatively uncommon today (I’ll take a look if you have different data). The more prevalent problem today, seems to be hate speech and intolerance, without regard to a particular ideology.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:18 pmThis thread is a perfect demonstration of what Mr. Rove said.
And your manner of fact-free debate is the perfect demonstration of conservative intellectual bankruptcy.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:37 pmThis from the guy who invented the false flag troll tactic.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:41 pmRove bashes ‘hate-filled, obscenity-clogged’ blogs.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:44 pmSo typical of this particular administration to blame others for their very own mind set.
Oh, PUH-LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE…if this isn’t a case of the pot calling the kettle black, I don’t know what is. Granted, the left has its share of people with no sense of self-restraint — but the right has at the very least an equal if not an even greater share, regardless of whether Rove wants to admit it or not. If he tries to claim that it isn’t there, he’s either lying or in denial — it’s that simple.
I only wish I had a nickel for every post I’ve seen from a conservative and/or Republican wishing pain, terminal illness, dismemberment, evisceration, life imprisonment, permanent exile, execution, and/or any number of other calamities on their political opponents — and to top it all off, many of these same people claim to be Christians!!
March 21st, 2008 at 2:53 pmobscene is the Fact that Rove is still not behind barrs!
March 21st, 2008 at 5:34 pmRove… obscene is treason!
March 21st, 2008 at 5:35 pmObscene is the War Criminal Dick Chenney contempt to public opinion: “So?”
March 21st, 2008 at 5:38 pmDamn, everyone, this is great!
Instead of immediately saying “not me, not me – it’s THEM who are so bad” many of you instantly soul-search and honestly try to evalute if the statement is true, and discuss how to fix it. I’ve been pretty depressed with the state of our country for years, but my daily visits over the past few weeks to TP have helped me see that there is hope! Please keep it up! Truth and integrity are worth fighting for.
Peace.
-Crazy Hussein Cat Lady
March 21st, 2008 at 6:02 pmI’m a nutty, vitriolic kook, huh?
I just have one thing to add to that – I have been called worse things by better people than that smarmy, obscene waste of skin.
March 21st, 2008 at 6:37 pmBetter bad mouthed than a killer conspirator, Rovey, SOB.
March 21st, 2008 at 6:58 pmI think Rove’s saying: Where’s the love?
My guess is you dropped a bomb on it, triggerhappy.
March 21st, 2008 at 7:18 pmRove should reflect upon why it is that right after Bush he is one of the most hated men on earth.
The reason he is hated is because of what he did, and tried but failed, to do to our country. Rove, along with many conspirators, tried to usurp the control of this country by conservatives. This is what he and Tom Delay stated. They were intent upon establishing permanent republican control.
Ha! Instead he is reponsible for the complete collapse of the GOP, Bush and the neocons.
Now, make him pay for his transgressions.
March 21st, 2008 at 8:57 pm>It’s obvious that Karl hasn’t read this little study in >progressive intellectual discourse.
The fact that your IP, (and the IP’s of everyone in a 50 mile radius of whatever inbred trailer park you come from) hasnt been banned is a testament to the receptiveness the left has for dissenting opinions. I’m sure the visciousness and venom on this site would be expontentially dwarfed by the venom any left wing poster would receive on a rightwing blog, if in fact there were any that didnt outright ban anyone with a dissenting opinion..
Reminds me of that moron Bigfwat, so incredibly stupid that he was “proud to still be here” (on this website), when in fact the only reason he still was able to post was that the moderators of this website were nothing like the moderators of sites he supports.
Make no mistake about it guys, Rove hates blogs, etc, for one reason… he can’t buy them like he can buy the “media”…. they are paradoxically both the source of the most deluded idiocy and the rawest and most honest truth…..these days, if a politician tells a lie, chances are its going to be debunked all over the internet in less than 24 hours, unlike the media, which would likely never mention it. to a lifelong propagandist like rove, the ability to debunk lies makes the internet an enormous danger..
ps. hey HoHam Gen(derBender)..Im STILL waiting for your smart @ss to explain to me how “the presses” could be literally interperted to include handwriten notes, something thats xeroxed, or email…
March 22nd, 2008 at 5:02 amRove: “unpersuasive”
Translation: Very persuasive.
Rove thinks blogs are very persuasive and is terrified of them. Evil republicans have raised hypocrisy to an art form.
Blogs are helping end the reign of these disgusting criminals, more power to them!
March 22nd, 2008 at 12:33 pmKarl Rove is a criminal. A vote stealer and smoke and mirrors man. He has achieved what little recognition he has because he manipulates, lies, and deceives. Karl Rove is a great deceiver. He has polarized the political landscape. He is one of the causes of our present sorrygovernment and he revels in it. What he says has no merit for honest, hard-working, real Americans. He intentionally insults the blogosphere because he fears it and he has no idea how many Americans of all walks of life use it. Karl Rove is a slanderer and spins hate and discord.
March 22nd, 2008 at 5:14 pmAs long as the media plays along with Karl to deceive, misinform and misdirect, Karl will make a few dollars. You will notice, no one ever asks Karl a hard confronting question about his words or actions.
March 23rd, 2008 at 10:09 amInteresting comments from someone whose entire career is about creating spam…..
March 24th, 2008 at 5:37 am