The AP reports:
Rockets and mortars pounded Baghdad’s U.S.-protected Green Zone Sunday and a suicide car bomber struck an Iraqi army post in the northern city of Mosul in a surge of attacks that killed at least 57 people nationwide.
The latest violence underscored the fragile security situation and the resilience of both Sunni and Shiite extremist groups as the war enters its sixth year and the U.S. death toll in the conflict approaches 4,000.
Attacks in Baghdad probably stemmed from rising tensions between rival Shiite groups _ some of whom may have been behind the Green Zone blasts. It was the most sustained assault in months against the nerve center of the U.S. mission.
And the claim that the surge was successful in reducing the violence goes "pop!"
March 23rd, 2008 at 5:12 pmBut.. but.. I thought the surge was working, and that the situation is *not* that fragile.
You mean Rove, Kagan, etc. got it wrong!? I am shocked, shocked!
March 23rd, 2008 at 5:16 pmDoes McStupid know which side the Iranians are on yet ?
March 23rd, 2008 at 5:18 pmSo, the surge clearly hasn't impeded the terrorists, nor isolated them from the Iraqis, as it was advertized to do, and violence spikes while the surge is at full strength, are as bloody as ever. The case can no longer be made that our continued presence is positively affecting the situation, any more than the case can be made that withdrawl would be the worse option.
Facts on the ground no longer support the current strategy, nor add to it's eventual chances of success.
March 23rd, 2008 at 5:24 pmThis is some surge they engineered: it's successful for the enemy!
March 23rd, 2008 at 5:25 pmthe liberal press will support them in putting a lid on the counter-surge../sarc.
March 23rd, 2008 at 5:29 pmThese are the same folks that failed us so completely on 9/11. Can't expect them to get it right, they're morons.
March 23rd, 2008 at 5:31 pm.
Q U E S T I O N:
If the "SURGE" is such a success, then...
~ Why is there NO political solution resolved?
~ Why are there ethnic/sectarian tensions?
~ Why is the U.S. Military still listed as THE OCCUPYING FORCE of IRAQ?
~ Why is America giving aide/arms to the Sadr Army, with promises of payment yet to materialize to the tune of 50 THOUSAND STRONG, ARMED, PISSED OFF REBELS?
~ Why does McCain et al require an armoured caravan yet an invited Iranian President requires none?
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March 23rd, 2008 at 5:31 pmThere is a violence increase in Iraq?
Time for another surge!
/sarc off
March 23rd, 2008 at 5:33 pmWell, the Iraqi's surge is working. When an army fights a population, the army can not win. There is in fact, nothing to be won.
March 23rd, 2008 at 5:34 pmAnd where is big media and talking head??om going to take us with this?
March 23rd, 2008 at 5:36 pmshits going to hit the fan soon unless America starts leaving
March 23rd, 2008 at 5:38 pm"Attacks in Baghdad probably stemmed from rising tensions between rival Shiite groups _ some of whom may have been behind the Green Zone blasts. It was the most sustained assault in months against the nerve center of the U.S. mission."
Tension? What tension? Trying to outdo each other seeing who can wreak the most havoc on the American compound in a given day? If they were rival factions, wouldn't they be blowing each other up?
March 23rd, 2008 at 5:48 pmFurther proof this "Surge is working!" banner has only the effect of lifting the profile of field generals.
They'll place more stars on their shoulders, and Petraeus will be promised more cushy posts. Talk about symbolism at the cost of 900+ U.S. deaths during the surge frame.
March 23rd, 2008 at 5:52 pm57 in one day in the green zone???? The surge (of bull$hit) is really working, isn't it?
As in the thread below, anyone who defends this Surge which has killed 900 americans needs to be crucified himself.
March 23rd, 2008 at 5:57 pmIt will soon be time to "surge" Bush and his cadre of criminals right into prison, too. Hague trials 2008!
March 23rd, 2008 at 5:58 pmThey're the very ones with the blood of 4,000 americans on their hands as well as the blood of over 600,000 iraqis. That kind of karma extends through generations for centuries.
March 23rd, 2008 at 5:59 pmNevar: By "rising tension" I take it to mean, in typical Bush bull$hit jargon and semantics, the "civil war" into which we've inserted ourselves?
March 23rd, 2008 at 6:00 pmTobieTall: I suspect the $hit will hit the fan the minute we stop paying blood money to Al Sadr to NOT fight. Payoffs on the taxpayer's dime - something's morally wrong with that. I guess you could call that a bribe and then when we threaten to stop, it becomes blackmail. And Chimpy's right smack dab in the middle of it all.
March 23rd, 2008 at 6:01 pmSurge: a sudden,or abrupt strong increase in...
March 23rd, 2008 at 6:05 pmThere's nothing in the definition of "surge", that makes it last a year! Wouldn't a 'surge" be like a ejaculation? They don't last for a year!
Didn't the extremist groups,the Shiite or Sunni (wouldn't they be kind-a like FOX NEWS,Bill-O or Hannity) realize that its Easter Sunday?
armchair psychologists have suggested that personal revenge may have been one reason for the president's determination to overthrow Saddam's regime.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/128620
March 23rd, 2008 at 6:08 pmcerberus Says:
March 23rd, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Nevar: By “rising tension” I take it to mean, in typical Bush bull$hit jargon and semantics, the “civil war” into which we’ve inserted ourselves?
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You mean the civil war we instigated?
March 23rd, 2008 at 6:17 pmAt lease the Foreign Press gives the true facts. Saddam is said to have killed 60,000 or 500,000 people. Without today's report included the US has killed 1,191,216 Iraq men/woman/children. The US has lost 900 soldiers this year as the Media/White House/Americans say everything is going good. The attack at the Green Zone is where McCain said it's the safest place in Iraq. Americans don't want to hear about the deaths of our soldiers or even the deaths of innocent Iraq people. Our country will be looked as terrorist for generations to come. How do you explain to the young people of the Middle East that you have the right to kill and dictate to their country. A young American girl asked does Iraq want the same Democracy as America why not ask them what kind of Democracy they want for their country.
We see the current Administration could care less about what the American people want their only interested in stealing Middle East Oil. McCain has memory lost and needs two people to correct his mistakes while campaigning overseas so Lieberman and Graham take care of the elderly McCain. Freshman Senator Obama uses Dr. Kings speeches for votes but forgets it was Bill Clinton who balanced the US budge which other President couldn't do in 30 years. Obama always says he voted against the War but lies as he wasn't a Senator when the vote took place he was like the rest of Americans. He also forgets when he lost the race for House of Rep. he called Hillary Clinton to help him run for Senator. Funny how he didn't know what to do then and needed her help but in two short years he knows more then she does. Pushing his color is all he has. At lease when Dr. King spoke of Hope and Change he wasn't looking for a vote he was doing it for all Americans without charge.
March 23rd, 2008 at 6:22 pmLiberal moonbats! Iraqis celebrate Easter with suicide bombs and mortar shells.
They are just showing their gratitude.
-GSD
March 23rd, 2008 at 6:39 pmSigh. God's got a lot of sorting out to do.
March 23rd, 2008 at 6:41 pmJackie
Clinton voted for Iraq war she HAS BLOOD on her hands, she also voted for Bush to attack Iranian home guard
Obama is the only clean break America will get, vote change
March 23rd, 2008 at 6:44 pmif Clinton gets in the boycott American goods is still on for many people worldwide
If Obama gets in Im buying a pepsi to celebrate
March 23rd, 2008 at 6:47 pmGSD Says:
March 23rd, 2008 at 6:39 pm
Liberal moonbats! Iraqis celebrate Easter with suicide bombs and mortar shells.
They are just showing their gratitude.
-GSD
Then they should fire-bomb the Oval Office ; that's the retard that stupidly and illegally invaded and occupied Iraq in the 1st place.........
March 23rd, 2008 at 6:54 pmTobie Tall Says:
March 23rd, 2008 at 6:08 pm
armchair psychologists have suggested that personal revenge may have been one reason for the president’s determination to overthrow Saddam’s regime.
Justin Frank says in his book Bush on the Couch that "At the simplest conscious level, Bush's obsession with capturing Saddam Hussein was about payback--wreaking vengeance upon the man who had tried to assassinate his father."
He also goes on to say that dealing with American war dead, "Bush's behavior strongly suggest an unconscious resentment toward our own servicemen, whose bravery puts his own (nonexistent) wartime service record to shame."
March 23rd, 2008 at 7:16 pmcalibleu Says:
March 23rd, 2008 at 7:16 pm
Tobie Tall Says:
March 23rd, 2008 at 6:08 pm
armchair psychologists have suggested that personal revenge may have been one reason for the president’s determination to overthrow Saddam’s regime.
Justin Frank says in his book Bush on the Couch
And Justin Frank is a psychiatrist who worked with a group of therapists to write the book.Written in 2003 in plenty of time for the 2004 election, the people still voted in BushCo.
March 23rd, 2008 at 7:44 pmTobie Tall your right Hillary voted for the war as as you had noticed at the time even the American people didn't give a loud out cry. Some did and so did Obama but he didn't vote on the war because he wasn't a Senator at the time. He had no vote just like me and you. But he states often in his speeches he voted against the War. When he was in Hollywood he used the phase he voted against the War, it was a lie. I know woman and Americans don't like Hillary even with her two term as Senator of New York and the experience to be President. Americans would rather have McCain to continue the down fall of the US or Obama with the same words Dr. King gave for Hope and Change but Obama wants votes for those words without a plan. The US is in a recession soon we'll be in a depression but some are willing to put Obama in office to learn on the job. Our Economy was so bad for 30 years as no President could correct the problem. We had a US budget debt since John Kennedy was in office some of you might not have been born then. It took President Bill Clinton to balance the US Budget, I guess Obama forgot that too. Americans can't blame Republicans or the corrupt White House for the down fall of this country with comments like the ones I've read it's clear Americans have no clue what this country has been through for 224 years even the last 7 years seems to cloud the judgement. But of course Obamais giving the gift of Hope/Change no plan I say like the Trojan horse Beware of Greeks bearing gifts". The same thing can happen again if people have learned from the past. But just keep Hillary and Bill hating time will come when again Americans will ask for their help as was done with Katrina and for the 8 years Bill helped all Americans.
March 23rd, 2008 at 7:59 pmWow, Jackie, I didn't realize Obama was Greek! Maybe that's why his skin is so dark.
Do tell us more.
March 23rd, 2008 at 8:24 pm"...Bill helped all Americans."
Yeah, thanks a lot, Bill.
March 23rd, 2008 at 8:31 pmYou handed America to the corporate neo-cons on a platter, or should I say, a splatter....
Merlin:".....2004 election, the people still voted in BushCo.
"
Except all the evidence said that Kerry won by 3% or about 3,000,000 votes. It's the evidence we are not allowed to see (from the electronic machines made by conservative corporations) that says Bush won.
March 23rd, 2008 at 8:38 pmMerlin Says:
March 23rd, 2008 at 7:44 pm
And Justin Frank is a psychiatrist who worked with a group of therapists to write the book.Written in 2003 in plenty of time for the 2004 election, the people still voted in BushCo.
Many people did vote for Bush in 2004, but John Kerry gave up without a fight to make sure all the votes were counted. There were uncounted votes in Ohio and New Mexico. Then there were the provisional ballots that were rejected, spoiled ballots where bad machines didn't count the votes and absentee ballots that were shredded in swing states.
March 23rd, 2008 at 8:41 pmAttacks kill 57 in Iraq.
Cheney's response:
'So ? There has been 'remarkable progress' in improving security. It is now well known that Al-Qaeda is in training in Venezuela. They are planning to use the oil reserves to drown Americans.'
March 23rd, 2008 at 8:57 pmJackie Says:
March 23rd, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Jackie. Hillary has sold her soul to the corporate world...just look at her contributions from lobbist. Now look at Obama's. She is a corporate whore. I would trust a young, intelligent person without a history in DC to any corporate whore.
March 23rd, 2008 at 9:20 pmAs the election nears we will be asked to trust in the US military to carry out a 'super surge' doubling US troop presence in Iraq that will smash the remaining terrorists organizations operating there. If we can't support this 'super surge' we will surely be with Obama on the terrorists side. Obama, the candidate that knows someone that damns the way minorities were treated in America...surely someone to fear.
March 23rd, 2008 at 9:30 pmKeith Says: ?March 23rd, 2008 at 8:38 pm
calibleu Says: ?March 23rd, 2008 at 8:41 pm
What we believe does not really matter in the face of the fact that Bush is still the POTUS. Had the American public been less influenced by emotional fear and the willful destruction of Kerry's reputation by the neocon cabal with the MSMs enabling, the result might have been different. Frank's book accurately indicated what 4 more years of neocon rule would look like. How could it be otherwise with Bush being a megalomaniac suffering from ADHD.
That Kerry ran a disastrous campaign right out of the DLC philosophy is a given. That he quit rather than fight fits the appeasement mold of the DLC. As was Bill Clinton's letting Bush 41 and the whole Reagan/Bush criminality be swept under the rug. Hillary's cozying up to McBush is also typical DLC philosophy. A powerful reason to vote against her candidacy. The DLC held sway in the Democratic party from 1985 until 2004 (including poster boy Bill Clinton's presidency) when Howard Dean took charge of the DNC. Things have been steadily improving since then.
Hopefully, beginning in 2009, we will be able to write the accurate history of all the illegal, unethical and immoral acts perpetrated in our name by this group of criminals in power. The voting scandal being one of them. But there are so many!
March 23rd, 2008 at 10:10 pmfreedom lover Says:
March 23rd, 2008 at 5:31 pm
These are the same folks that failed us so completely on 9/11. Can’t expect them to get it right, they’re morons.
I agree with:
sjc001 Says:
March 23rd, 2008 at 8:45 pm
These neocons are not morons, they have never been on our side and the only thing they did wrong was not being able to pull off their scam completely until Jan 2009. That you believe they are morons shows they have you completely fooled!
March 23rd, 2008 at 10:19 pmYeah but.... Jeebus died for your higher energy costs!
March 23rd, 2008 at 10:24 pmLeft Coast Mike Says:
March 23rd, 2008 at 9:20 pm
Jackie. Hillary has sold her soul to the corporate world…just look at her contributions from lobbist. Now look at Obama’s. She is a corporate whore.
Next to the neocons, and the "conservatives, the DLC, of which Hillary is a vaunted member, is the best front for the powerful corporate masters running this country from behind the scenes. Read the DLC history and see why the Dems are in such terrible shape today. Check out Wiki and the Consortium News for starters.
Did you know that the DLC gave strong support for the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Prior to the war, Will Marshall co-signed a letter to President Bush from the Project for the New American Century endorsing military action against Saddam Hussein.
March 23rd, 2008 at 10:33 pmSurge On!
Dumfuks.
March 23rd, 2008 at 10:42 pmBut, but, Graham, Lieberman and McCain say things are going great in Iraq!
March 23rd, 2008 at 11:49 pmMarch in on track to be the 4th straight month for an increase in the number of Iraqi's killed. In fact, March will be roughly double what it was last December. MSM is still peddling what was true last November but that is old news. Because of its symbolic nature, I look for attacks on the Green Zone to increase over the next few months.
American deaths have also been inching up the last couple of months. And there is still no plan to end the occupation...
March 23rd, 2008 at 11:54 pm