As the U.S. death toll in Iraq reached 4,000 over the weekend, AFP notes a statistic just as sobering:
At least 97 percent of the deaths occurred after US President George W. Bush announced the end of “major combat” in Iraq on May 1, 2003, as the military became caught between a raging anti-American insurgency and brutal sectarian strife unleashed since the toppling of Saddam.
Despite the losses, Bush on the eve of the war’s fifth anniversary defended his decision to invade Iraq, vowing no retreat as he promised American soldiers would triumph despite the “high cost in lives and treasure.”
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Heckuva job, Chimpy.
Heckuva job, Bush supporters.
March 24th, 2008 at 10:06 amDespite the losses, Bush on the eve of the war’s fifth anniversary defended his decision to invade Iraq, vowing no retreat as he promised American soldiers would triumph despite the “high cost in lives and treasure.”
Hey Chimpy
If you’re declaring “Mission Accomplished” , isn’t that supposed to be indicative of American soldiers already being triumphant ?
March 24th, 2008 at 10:07 am“Triumph” at what?
March 24th, 2008 at 10:10 ammission was never thought out. They accomplished litte. While the toll is still being tallied.
I would be interested in seeing casualties of soldiers that aren’t being counted as official deaths and the numbers of the injured.
This is the number that should be in our headlines, not just the 4,000 fallen but the tens of thousands that will never be able to walk or see or hold or (fill in the blank) the same way ever again.
There are much more than 4,000 deaths that should be shown to the american public.
March 24th, 2008 at 10:11 amOnly 4000, I bet that number is low balled.I hope DUBYA still has his romantic notions about war. It is time to start Impeachment Proceedings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sick and twisted neocons.
March 24th, 2008 at 10:12 am“So?” says the Dick Cheney.
The important thing is that gas was 1.50/gal in the US at that time and now it is at 4.00/gal.
The important thing is that Dick’s oil friends have established themselves in the Iraqi oil industry.
And the Chimpya, who took a break from playing with his toy soldiers, is having a grand time on the WH lawn playing with the Easter Bunny.
If any one in the administration had a conscience, they would not be sleeping. But, that is not the case — they are enjoying all temporal pleasures available — we can hope that they suffer for eternity in hell, but I doubt the existence of a hell — so when will these criminals suffer for what they have done?
March 24th, 2008 at 10:17 amhellinabucket Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 10:11 am
There are much more than 4,000 deaths that should be shown to the american public.
The 4000 are only “battlefield” deaths. If a soldier survives transport to a hospital to die later, he is not counted as a battlefield casualty. Fact. Same lowlife statistic rigging they did with VietNam is what they are using with Iraq/Afghanistan.
March 24th, 2008 at 10:22 amw admits that if he were younger, he would be right there on the front lines in Afgahnistan fighting. The war is romantic and so worthwhile. w was absolutely correct that we were going to get OBL dead or alive, then w decided that he didn’t think much about OBL anymore and we shouldn’t either because it just wasn’t worth it. It just really bothers w that he had to send the nation into war. It bothered him so much that he had to cut taxes for the rich so he could keep funding the war with the increased taxes that the tax cuts brought in. It is wonderful that the dem leadship supports him. I am in awe of the greatness shown in this war or occupation or whatever you choose to call it.
March 24th, 2008 at 10:24 amIF YOU’RE NOT FROTHING WITH CONTEMPT AND ANGER, YOU’RE BRAIN-DEAD:
http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=Hz-6A59qzAU&feature=related
HANG THE LYING, TREASONOUS BASTARDS, WHILE SETTING THEM ON FIRE AND RIDDLING THEIR SH*T STAINED CORPSES WITH 50 CALIBER ROUNDS.
(the preceding has been a thought crime by yours truly)
Ooh, I’m so scared they’re coming to get me, waaaaaah.
FCUK DICK AND LIL GEORGE, BURN IN HELL.
LONG LIVE THE U.S.A., LONG AFTER THEY’RE ROTTING 6 FEET UNDER.
March 24th, 2008 at 10:29 amWayne Says:
Wow. I didn’t know they tallied deaths in such a way. Not counting deaths outside the designated battlefield.
I’d grimly have to project that there could be 4200+ deaths under a comprehensive count.
What a ignorant, contemptous act against an American soldier.
March 24th, 2008 at 10:29 amIn December the death toll would be about 4500
1/3 (1600) could have been saved if Bush has listened to the recommendations of the Iraq study group and pulled out
Iraqs reconstruction could have been completed by now and the Iraqis would have , electricity , clean water , medicians etc etc etc
If only the deceiver in truth had listened
March 24th, 2008 at 10:30 amEven now, Bush is hard at work for a new definition of “Triumph,” just like the ones he came up with for “torture” and “recession.”
March 24th, 2008 at 10:32 amHonestly, I can’t even bear to watch the entire video I posted. It’s just too goddamned infuriating, FCUK EM ALL.
LIES, LIES, LIES AND MORE LIES.
March 24th, 2008 at 10:33 amI prefer this definition of Triumph:
http://video.google.com/ videoplay?docid=-3076428607907110324&q=triumph+dog+bush&total=10&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
“Deciding which toilet to drink from”.
PRICELESS.
March 24th, 2008 at 10:35 amIf that were true your party is just as guilty!!
Blame the five conservative judges who installed Bush, if you want to blame someone.
March 24th, 2008 at 10:39 am“So you’re Bushes brains eh? I was expecting a much smaller man.” - Triumph the insult comic dog to Karl Rove.
March 24th, 2008 at 10:41 amYou’re an idiot
March 24th, 2008 at 10:41 amMcWars Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 10:29 am
Wow. I didn’t know they tallied deaths in such a way. Not counting deaths outside the designated battlefield.
There is a soldier’s mother fighting the statistical counting. Her son was hit by a roadside mine, made it to the hospital, survived surgery, was an outpatient for a couple weeks. He complained about constant nosebleeds, the doctors blew it off saying it was normal with the reconstructive surgeryto theface and head. He was found dead in his barracks a couple days later. His mother found out he was not being counted as a casualty, she has filed suit.
This is the same type crap they did during vietnam and this is not the only case.
March 24th, 2008 at 10:45 amNo democrats went to the UN and lied……
No democrats went to congress and the senate and gave the false information.
This admin did this. This is the bush war. It will always be the bush war. You cannot pin your evil on others.
March 24th, 2008 at 10:46 amThere are plenty of reasons to despise Chimpfck and his minions without the 9/11 conspiracy crap. The real reasons to hate the bastard are lumped together with this line of “He caused 9/11″ tin hat bs and the whole bundle is discounted. They are culpable because they were fcking incompetent and didn’t take the threats serious.
Isn’t there some other site the 9/11 conspiracy nuts can go to instead of tainting this site?
March 24th, 2008 at 10:49 amStick to the thread topic.
The vast majority of combat deaths in Iraq have occured after “mission accomplished”. Where are the staunch republican followers that will stand up next to President Bush and tout the successes?
March 24th, 2008 at 10:51 amIcaredman Says:
So the only reason Bush as not yet been impeached is Dem’s are scared the country would rally around the Neocon’s?
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The only thing I know for sure about the Dems is that they are spineless. There is more than enough evidence to impeach both Bush and Cheney.
Read Greg Palast’s book Armed Madhouse for starters. You might like it, because he takes plenty of shots at the Clintons and Al Gore.
March 24th, 2008 at 10:51 am“Where are the staunch republican followers that will stand up next to President Bush and tout the successes?”
I could name a few, but McCain, Lieberman come to mind at this second…….Yeah, I know. Lieberman claims to be…..ahem….”independent.” But he’s a republican, no doubt about it.
March 24th, 2008 at 11:01 am1. sjc001 Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 10:04 am
When is George Bush going to be held accountable for the treasonous act of authorizing the attack on U.S. citizens on 9/11/2001?
When he meets his MASTER Satan. For all Bush’s GENOCIDE, TORTURE and WAR CRIMES, guess what his new MASTER will do…
March 24th, 2008 at 11:03 amThe Conn. newspaper that supported Lieberman has appoligized.
The soldiers had triumphed a long time ago. It’s the leadership that has failed us all.
March 24th, 2008 at 11:05 amHey Vet,
I am extremely frustrated with the Democrats too, but they are our best bet until we can get runoff voting or some other change to the system.
I think there are plenty of good Democrats in congress, but I get the feeling that the leadership is trying to drag out the occupation (as patriots are give life and limb), just to benefit. I think there are many Democrats that are frustrated with Schumer and Pelosi. I just wish more would stand up and fight tooth and nail for the ideals of this country. Too many are being bullied into submission by the Democratic leadership that are more concerned with the future of the party rather than the future of the United States of America.
They forget to realize that there is no Democratic party without a USA.
I truly understand your anger and frustration, but I hope that we can still shape the Democratic party and use it to create a better system where this does not happen again. Where are choices become broader and more diverse. Where you can vote your conscience without worrying about putting George W or McCain in office. We just can’t give up.
March 24th, 2008 at 11:10 amMasterSatanSmashesBushsFace Says:
Is that you, republicans hate facts, gone all religious on us now?
March 24th, 2008 at 11:16 amNevar Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 11:16 am
MasterSatanSmashesBushsFace Says:
Is that you, republicans hate facts, gone all religious on us now?
Nah, same old idiot dingbat troll. RHF does seem to have disappeared, however.
March 24th, 2008 at 11:18 amRHF was pretty well crucified the other day, I was wondering if he had resurrected himself already.
March 24th, 2008 at 11:20 amThere are lots of people counting the dead because of bush’s war. This link says we are not counting nearly all of them.
http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/ home/ Frontpage/ 2008/ 03/ 21/ 02286.html
March 24th, 2008 at 11:24 amI think my link in 33 failed….try again;
http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/ home/ Frontpage/ 2008/ 03/ 21/ 02286.html
March 24th, 2008 at 11:25 amWhat was the mission in reality?
March 24th, 2008 at 11:42 amFor some reason my last comment on another thread is waiting moderation. Anyway, just a reminder to watch Bush’s War tonight on Frontline (PBS). Set your recorder and watch both parts.
March 24th, 2008 at 12:03 pmNevar Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 11:16 am
MasterSatanSmashesBushsFace Says:
Is that you, republicans hate facts, gone all religious on us now?
Nope. I DID used to post as “Mr. Bush Goes To Hell” and “Ronald Reagan and his MASTER Satan”.
Never as rhf.
March 24th, 2008 at 12:29 pmShould have quit during the “mission accomplished” phase and saved all those lives.
STUPID DICK AND LIL BUSH.
March 24th, 2008 at 1:12 pmDieNowForPeace Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Should have quit during the “mission accomplished” phase and saved all those lives.
STUPID DICK AND LIL BUSH.
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Yeah, but don’t worry…
Their MASTER Satan is WAITING for them…
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
March 24th, 2008 at 1:32 pmFred, I try to leave clues (in #9), e.g. w starts a sentence, and w had the opportunity to go to war in Viet Nam, but chickened out, because I think that when you explicitly add the word snark, you lose the effect. If I were a real troll, I would write somewhat differently.
March 24th, 2008 at 6:52 pmI remember that proud day. Our presidente, standing at the microphone in front of the mission accomplished banner announcing it was a done deal. On a manly carrier deck, having landed himself there just hours before the speech. How touching, how hollywood, how not real! What we learned that day was that the president was a guy who could tell a good stories but for several years he hasn’t gotten the ending to his stories right. No matter, his republican buddies in the congress made sure they sold the snake oil to the people who bought as much of it as they could, and then supported sending our volunteer troops off to the sacrifice. That’s what all good Vice Presidents and Presidents do, our volunteers signed on the dotted line so it doesn’t matter if we misuse them. Send them off on some misbegotten venture and if they die it’s their fault.
March 25th, 2008 at 8:52 pm