Matthews: ‘Maybe We Should Elect’ McCain To End The Iraq War
Matthews: ‘Maybe We Should Elect’ McCain To End The Iraq War
Seeming to argue for a U.S. withdrawal from Iraq during MSNBC’s Morning Joe today, Hardball host Chris Matthews asserted that terrorists and extremists “want us to constantly rebuild and reinforce and surge” in Iraq so they can “use it as the poster boy for everything that’s wrong with the West.”
But which presidential candidate does Matthews think is best suited to end the war? Not Sens. Barack Obama (D-IL) or Hillary Clinton (D-NY), both of whom have said they would end the war as president. Instead, Matthews chose Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), who he said is “perhaps” a “great leader”:
MATTHEWS: I think there are ways to end it if we had a great leader perhaps, I’m not sure we have on the horizon, maybe it is McCain — to find a way — maybe we should elect a Republican in order to get us out of the war because irony seems to be a better bet than what we’ve gotten.
Watch it:
It wouldn’t be “ironic” to elect McCain to end the war — because he wouldn’t. Apart from the fact that McCain’s past claims regarding the Iraq war perhaps disavow him any credibility in making future decisions about it, he has also made carrying on the war a central part of his presidential campaign. He supported President Bush’s troop escalation strategy and claims it’s succeeding, even though its stated goals have not been met. Additionally, he’s even stated that he wouldn’t mind having U.S. troops in Iraq for “a hundred years.”
In fact, Matthews himself made this point just yesterday on his Sunday morning talk show when he noted that McCain “is sounding an awful lot like George Bush” when he talks about Iraq. Perhaps this is what Matthews thinks a “great leader” should sound like.
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Matthews: ‘Maybe We Should Elect’ McCain To End The Iraq War
MCMetal : No , we shouldn’t , Tweety …………..
March 24th, 2008 at 12:47 pmBet on irony?
Note to self: Do not seek gambling advice from the tweety.
March 24th, 2008 at 12:48 pmThis information is for Alzheimer’s patients vote thats how desperate the republicans are
March 24th, 2008 at 12:49 pmMaybe Superman should dress in green Kryptonite and eat it for breakfast?
March 24th, 2008 at 12:50 pmMatthews: maybe we should elect a Republican in order to get us out of the war because irony seems to be a better bet than what we’ve gotten.
WTF????
Can anyone make sense of this statement?
March 24th, 2008 at 12:52 pm“It looks to the Arabs as we are invading, thats what they want it to look like.”
..? It looks like an invasion because it is an invasion.
March 24th, 2008 at 12:52 pmMatthews thinks a “great leader” should sound like….?
Great leaders usually don’t sound like idiots.
McSame, Mc100YearsofWar, McPander, McUck
March 24th, 2008 at 12:54 pmIt looks like an invasion because it is an invasion.
If it looks like dogshit, smells like dogshit, and tastes like dogshit, it’s probably dogshit.
March 24th, 2008 at 12:54 pmCan someone tell me why anyone listens to this asshat?
Christ on a crutch!
March 24th, 2008 at 12:54 pmCould this be what true, abject desperation looks like among the right-wing chattering class?
“Yeah, we’ve fu(ked up everything we’ve touched, I’ll grant you that — but give us one last chance; vote for us out of a sense of irony”.
Damn.
That is some sorry-ass rationalization, there, Tweety.
March 24th, 2008 at 12:55 pmMATTHEWS: I think there are ways to end it if we had a great leader perhaps, I’m not sure we have on the horizon, maybe it is McCain — to find a way — maybe we should elect a Republican in order to get us out of the war because irony seems to be a better bet than what we’ve gotten.
Irony is going to replace someone to have a beer with
March 24th, 2008 at 12:55 pm; my , how far we’ve progressed ……………
TIRED?
DISGUSTED?
MAD?
DO SOMETHING!
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March 24th, 2008 at 12:57 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Matthews: maybe we should elect a Republican in order to get us out of the war because irony seems to be a better bet than what we’ve gotten.
WTF????
Can anyone make sense of this statement?
It means Tweety’s back on the sauce.
March 24th, 2008 at 12:58 pmCan anyone make sense of this statement?
Told you already its to mislead Alzheimer’s patients
or even to mislead republicans thats McBush will leave Iraq
Its amazing that people hear this shit and actualy believe it
hypnoptic suggestions
March 24th, 2008 at 12:58 pm“Okay, okay, so Republican economic policies haven’t worked; Republican foreign policies have been a disaster. But give us a break; we were depending on an observable, ordered universe behaving they way we expected it to behave. NOW we’re gonna expect it behave ironically.
Vote for Republicans — the odds have gotta catch us with us eventually.”
(You guys are welcome to use that slogan, by the way.)
March 24th, 2008 at 1:01 pmCome on Chris are you having a McCain senile moment?
Or is Chris having cravings for more of McCain’s BBQ ribs?
A republican takes America into a war and occupation (unpresedentedly suspicious). The Chris thinks that another republican that has been positioning himself with Bush policies at the age of 71. Who says he wants to stay in Iraq for 100 years and McCain “promises” there will be more wars but McCain himself won’t live 100 yrs. But wants to commit us to iraq after he is gone.
For Chris this is like asking, KBR, Haliburton, and all the contractors to pay back all the taxpayer funds they overcharged and provided nothing for accepted payments.
I know, We can contract out a contractor to go and ask for these tax payer dollars that should be returned.
Makes as much sense as Chris…………………
March 24th, 2008 at 1:01 pmExcellent, expression of an opinion for or against one candidate should violate his contract and they can be finished trying to get this turd to flush. Lookout sewers, it comes forth to infect you. Don’t listen to it. It will give you a rash.
March 24th, 2008 at 1:01 pmMaybe we should amend the constitution so Shrub can run for a 3rd term, so he can end the war, turn the economy around, end torture, restore our credibility in the world, and be the the great and wonderful leader he has been for his first 7 odd years…
March 24th, 2008 at 1:02 pmI think they keep this guy on to pander to one quarter of CNN viewers. That’s all he is.
March 24th, 2008 at 1:02 pmI think there are ways to end it if we had a great leader perhaps…
like the “well sculpted Mitt” ? (Oct 5 2007) or Fred Thompson with the “movie star looks” and “daddy image”? (Mar 30 2007) or Giuliani, “America’s deodorizer”? (Mar 5 2007)
I’m not sure we have on the horizon, maybe it is McCain — to find a way — maybe we should elect a Republican in order to get us out of the war because irony seems to be a better bet than what we’ve gotten.
Forget that “who would you rather have a beer with?” crap, that’s so 2000/2004. Irony is the bees knees daddio, get with it, you squares!
March 24th, 2008 at 1:04 pmNeocon values all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 24th, 2008 at 1:04 pmJeez, why don’t MSNBC send this buffoon packing right behind Tucker Carlson. What a complete doofus.
March 24th, 2008 at 1:05 pmRalph #5
Make sense?!!
What eez thees ’sense’ of which ju speeg? They eez no sense heer!
March 24th, 2008 at 1:07 pmchristopher wiwi Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Neocon values all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As if they have values………………….
March 24th, 2008 at 1:08 pmMATTHEWS: “I think there are ways to end it if we had a great leader perhaps, I’m not sure we have on the horizon, maybe it is McCain — to find a way — maybe we should elect a Republican in order to get us out of the war because irony seems to be a better bet than what we’ve gotten.”
His diatribe wanders all over the map, he can’t keep a single thought on track…
Sure, elect McCain, it will end the Iraq war as it becomes WW3 or however many world wars the war mongers are up to now…
March 24th, 2008 at 1:09 pmChris Matthews is a terrible journalist. It would be ironic if McCain were to be elected President on a campaign promise of not ending the war and then went ahead and ended the war. But, to vote for McCain and hope that his central campaign promise is a lie is just stupid.
March 24th, 2008 at 1:11 pmtweety, just shut the fu*k up. im sick of hearing your babble….
March 24th, 2008 at 1:12 pmTweety must be seeing Limbaugh’s Doctors now.
March 24th, 2008 at 1:14 pmElecting a Republican to “get us out of the war” would be like electing an alcoholic to get us out of a bar.
Matthews seems to get nuttier by the day.
News Corpse, The Internet’s Chronicle Of Media Decay.
March 24th, 2008 at 1:15 pmIronium or Hopium?
Thanks, Chris, for making a tough choice tougher.
March 24th, 2008 at 1:16 pmMatthews wasn’t trying to be ironic…he was being sarcastic. The irony is the publics reaction to attempted satire. Black humor seems much out of place on the recent news of 4000 dead American soldiers. There must be a better way to honor our fighters killed in service in a McCain (Hillary) enabled war disaster.
March 24th, 2008 at 1:19 pmFrom the Chris Matthews Unexpurgated Dictionary:
Irony(adjective):
1. Metallic, prone to magnetic influence
2. like a warm, flattened white shirt
3. almost Iran-like (see Irany)
4. Characteristic of people people named Ron
Ironic (adjective):
1. Something Chris Matthews doesn;t understand
2. Chris Matthews
And now from an ACTUAL dictionary!
Irony(noun):
March 24th, 2008 at 1:25 pm1. the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning
‘Maybe We Should Elect’ McCain To End The Iraq War”
No dumb at all…
I go around spreading good will, talking about the importance of spreading freedom and peace
George W. Bush, Dec 20th, 2007
March 24th, 2008 at 1:27 pmMathews is a fscking idiot.
March 24th, 2008 at 1:28 pmChris Matthews is one of the shallowest thinkers that I have ever observed. His primary assessment of an individual’s ability to be president is based upon the casting requirements for some Tom Clancy novel. Rarely do you see an actual substantive discussion of policy. Here he clearly seeks to find an actor to play the great leader.
We have seen the Republican/conservative agenda touted through this administration and the Congress when the Republicans were in control. The cost to the United States has been considerable. We have seen a president ignore every bit of experienced military and diplomatic advice concerning Iraq. We have seen an economy ruined through the theory of crony regulation of industry. We have seen the ability of the government to respond amply demonstrated by Katrina. We have seen our domestic and international reputation as a moral country shredded. We have seen our individual liberties and privacy severely restricted.
Yet, Matthews would place another Republican in control. A Republican who has pandered to every right wing group. A Republican who believes in the same right wing ideology that led us to the state we are now in. A Republican who undeservedly is touted as a straight talker when that is obviously false. A Republican who has the same simplistic view of the world shared by King George and who is either suffering from alzheimers or once again conflating AQ with all middle easterners.
March 24th, 2008 at 1:32 pmYes, this makes total sense. To get out of Iraq, elect the one person who has vowed to keep us there. Sure. Right.
Do they do random drug screenings at MSNBC?
March 24th, 2008 at 1:33 pmPerhaps this is what Matthews thinks a “great leader” should sound like.
Matthews seems to love Bush for some reason. He is starting to sound really bi-polar. He says one thing one day and the opposite the next day. I say cancel Matthews and put in David Schuster or Rachael Maddow.
March 24th, 2008 at 1:36 pmMcCain is coming to see me, too.
He will get the same treatment as the Bushes from me,
their MASTER Satan!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
March 24th, 2008 at 1:38 pmNot no, but HELL NO.
Is everyone else as sick and tired as I am of Tweety’s man-crushes? He really seems to have a thing for old white guys - but only if they are Republicans, it seems.
McCain would do nothing to end the war and occupation of Iraq. McCain will simply continue Bush’s bumbling as we watch the death toll mount. By the end of a McCain presidential term we’d probably see at least 10,000 dead Americans (up from the 4,000 we have today).
March 24th, 2008 at 1:39 pmMatthews: maybe we should elect a Republican in order to get us out of the war because irony seems to be a better bet than what we’ve gotten.
No surprise, really. This was meant strictly for the lofty Martha’s Vineyard crowd’s consumption. That’s why it sounds so flaky; they’re in a tizzy because the salad days of covering Bush’s non-disclosures are drawing down, and they have no journalistic successes to point to. Chrissy is channeling their collective angst, at the slow realization that their behavior is the primary reason for their decline in collective credibility.
March 24th, 2008 at 1:39 pmI can’t decide if I’m living in “1984″ or “Alice In Fing Wonderland”!
March 24th, 2008 at 1:41 pmTweety’s just playing out the script. Give him and his proto-Nazi buddies over at Faux News enough news cycles, and suddenly McCain will become the anti-war candidate. And yes, I think Americans are that dumb.
March 24th, 2008 at 1:41 pmTehy lie so much they begin to believe in their rosy reality… Perhaps Mathew needs to look around with open eyes and ears… Bush/Chenney are alone! The USA is alone in the world and hated! They had to coerce governments in other to form the ‘Coallition of the willing’. Their public appearences are never made in public. Last Time I saw Bush telling more lies about Iraq and Iran, he was speaking to a Pentagon crowd… not to people! The good thing about an idiot like Mathew is that all the crap is talking about is on record. It can be shown years from now as an example of how the media supports the War Criminal in the WH.
March 24th, 2008 at 1:43 pmBilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
Matthews seems to love Bush for some reason
Tweety has always been a Republican tool. When he is not fawning over Delay or some other Republinut ( Mit has great hair and smells good *puke ), he rarely ever has a lucid statement to make.
To repeat my earlier post, Mathews is a fscking idiot.
March 24th, 2008 at 1:43 pmI really wish Tweety would get over his man crushes.
March 24th, 2008 at 1:45 pmI know I will get grief for this, but I have to say I like Mathews most of the time. I don’t agree with that statement of course, but he also didn’t say we definitely SHOULD vote for McCain. He throws things out like that quite often as points of discussion. I’d have to say it’s pretty obvious if you watch him regularly that he is pretty enamored with Obama. He does seem to be a little too in love with politics itself.
I love the idea of a Rachael Maddow having a show though. How about instead of Hannity and Colmes we have Maddow and Buchanan? LOL
March 24th, 2008 at 1:46 pmEvery time Matthews starts with “The great movie Lawrence of Arabia..” you know wisdom will be spoken
http://wonkette.com/ 343276/ msnbc-to-survive-on-other-outlets-making-fun-of-it
March 24th, 2008 at 1:46 pmThe only way John McCrazyHorse will get the troops out of Iraq is by sending them across the eastern border.
March 24th, 2008 at 1:48 pmChris “We Are All Neocons Now” Matthews
March 24th, 2008 at 1:48 pmCheeseheadliberal Says:
I love the idea of a Rachael Maddow having a show though. How about instead of Hannity and Colmes we have Maddow and Buchanan? LOL
Well, that’s one way to permanently get rid of Pat Buchanan.
March 24th, 2008 at 1:50 pmSchizophrenia, anyone? Anyone?
March 24th, 2008 at 1:52 pmBilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Perhaps this is what Matthews thinks a “great leader” should sound like.
Matthews seems to love Bush for some reason. He is starting to sound really bi-polar. He says one thing one day and the opposite the next day.
Cheeseheadliberal Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
I know I will get grief for this, but I have to say I like Mathews most of the time. I don’t agree with that statement of course, but he also didn’t say we definitely SHOULD vote for McCain. He throws things out like that quite often as points of discussion. I’d have to say it’s pretty obvious if you watch him regularly that he is pretty enamored with Obama. He does seem to be a little too in love with politics itself.
The only sense I can make of this is it is his attempt at being even-handed. He is so flagrantly against Hillary and for Obama - and who can blame him - but he does not want to appear partisan. And it is true, he does have a man-crush on McCain, but the thrill up his leg means he is an Obama man.
March 24th, 2008 at 1:53 pmKeltoi Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Perhaps this is what Matthews thinks a “great leader” should sound like.
Matthews seems to love Bush for some reason. He is starting to sound really bi-polar. He says one thing one day and the opposite the next day.
Cheeseheadliberal Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
I know I will get grief for this, but I have to say I like Mathews most of the time. I don’t agree with that statement of course, but he also didn’t say we definitely SHOULD vote for McCain. He throws things out like that quite often as points of discussion. I’d have to say it’s pretty obvious if you watch him regularly that he is pretty enamored with Obama. He does seem to be a little too in love with politics itself.
The only sense I can make of this is it is his attempt at being even-handed. He is so flagrantly against Hillary and for Obama - and who can blame him - but he does not want to appear partisan. And it is true, he does have a man-crush on McCain, but the thrill up his leg means he is an Obama man.
Making insane and idiotic statements makes one seem non-partisan ?
Well , if anyone would know about that , it would certainly be you ……………
March 24th, 2008 at 2:02 pmMctweety isn’t going on logic here, he’s going on smells. Hi first choice was grandpa fred’s aroma of aqua velva and cigar smoke. Hillary smells like an April Fresh Morning, Obama smells like incense and stale bong water, and McCain smells like napalm in the morning. Who are you going to vote for?
March 24th, 2008 at 2:11 pmKeltoi
March 24th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Are you getting all your friends in CDA to vote for Obama?
March 24th, 2008 at 2:21 pmMatthews (full transcript—with comments–) :
“I never forget my favorite movie Laurence of Arabia…”
–the Cliff Notes/Middle East Conflict for Dummies, but with moving pictures and Peter O’ Toole!—
“…the Turks—rather, the Arabs, wanted the Turks to stay in Arabia so they could keep blowing up their trains and make them their enemy…”
—Exactly! What better way to keep an occupying force…umm…occupying, than by blowing up their trains! That’s what the French Resistance did in WWII—they WANTED the Germans to stay, and they’d have gotten away with it if it weren’t for those meddling British and Americans!—
“…they wanted them to rebuild….”
–Is Chris absolutely sure that his favorite movie and well of wisdom about the Middle East is Laurence of Arabia? Because I don’t recall Omar Sharif or Anthony Quinn discussing the benefits of Turkish engineering the way that the People Popular Liberation Front discussed the benefits of Roman occupation or construction in Life of Brian—maybe Chris is thinking of that movie instead?—
“they want us to constantly rebuild and reinforce and surge because they continually use us as the poster child for what’s wrong with the west…”
— but probably without the concomitant un-building—
“..it looks to the Arabs like we’re invading….”
—even though the invading is so 5-years ago—
“…that’s what they want it to look like …”
–because Laurence of Arabia is their favorite movie too!—
“…if we retreat, sure, we’re in retreat; but I think that there are other ways to end this war than simple retreat. I think there are ways to end it if we had a great leader perhaps…I’m not sure we have on the horizon, maybe it is McCain — to find a way — maybe we should elect a Republican in order to get us out of the war because irony seems to be a better bet than what we’ve gotten…”
—because most wars aren’t successfully ended by sarcasm or snippy remarks but by a shared sense of irony—
“…Because this administration promised humility in foreign policy and we’ve gotten the opposite we’ve gotten…So? [quoting Cheney’s recent reaction to public opinion]. That’s our policy right now.”
—until Iraq attacked us of course, and then Bush said “bring it on” by which he meant “expect to be broughten-upon an’ whatnot” and that’s actually been the policy since his day-one in office, but Bush had to figure out where Iraq was first of all and that took him 9 months—and just in time, too!
So to summarize, as per Chris and Laurence of Arabia; what we need is a leader with the personal greatness to get sodomized by Turks and then get killed riding a motorbike, and that leader, let’s face it, can only be John McCain!
March 24th, 2008 at 2:22 pm54 Bob wurst
–Smells–
LOL!
March 24th, 2008 at 2:23 pmThe only way John McCrazyHorse will get the troops out of Iraq is by sending them across the eastern border.
John McCuster?
Expect our Iraqi allies to say “what do you mean we, white man?”
March 24th, 2008 at 2:25 pmKeltoi Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Perhaps this is what Matthews thinks a “great leader” should sound like.
Matthews seems to love Bush for some reason. He is starting to sound really bi-polar. He says one thing one day and the opposite the next day.
Cheeseheadliberal Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
I know I will get grief for this, but I have to say I like Mathews most of the time. I don’t agree with that statement of course, but he also didn’t say we definitely SHOULD vote for McCain. He throws things out like that quite often as points of discussion. I’d have to say it’s pretty obvious if you watch him regularly that he is pretty enamored with Obama. He does seem to be a little too in love with politics itself.
The only sense I can make of this is it is his attempt at being even-handed. He is so flagrantly against Hillary and for Obama - and who can blame him - but he does not want to appear partisan. And it is true, he does have a man-crush on McCain, but the thrill up his leg means he is an Obama man.
Making insane and idiotic statements makes one seem non-partisan ?
Well , if anyone would know about that , it would certainly be you ……………
To which I add, see my humble above full transcript and deconstruction (@56) mr. Cheesehead.
March 24th, 2008 at 2:26 pmMorons like Bush in the White House and morons like Matthews in the media: it’s a moronocracy, not a democracy…
March 24th, 2008 at 2:34 pmMy biggest fear for this election (it’s in the process of being realized)- the MSM has already decided that John McCain is the next President, & will succeed in electing him.
No matter what McCaIn says or does or what comes out about him, about the war, the economy etc., etc., it will be hidden or glossed over or explained away repeatedly until the coverups become generally accepted truth.
My recurring nightmare: St. John, by virtue of being anointed by MSM as next Pres., is elected & we are left watching our hopes for foreign & domestic policy change evaporate in our hands.
March 24th, 2008 at 2:52 pmwow… sounds like he got hit in the head and all sense got knocked out of him.
March 24th, 2008 at 2:54 pmNo to electing McCain, lets just send all the bush war supporters over and bring our men and women home. Let those who support REALLY support.
March 24th, 2008 at 2:59 pmZooey Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Keltoi
March 24th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Are you getting all your friends in CDA to vote for Obama?
I am waiting for him to get the nomination first - most of my friends are not political, so they aren’t even paying attention. My across the street neighbor is running for County Commisioner, though - as a Democrat - so I am going to be active come election time.
March 24th, 2008 at 3:26 pm5th Estate at #56 - Hilarious! LOL, literally.
March 24th, 2008 at 3:29 pmI TiVo’d news shows on all networks over these past few days while on vacation. The massaging of McCain’s image by tv news talking heads is pervasive. It is frightening. St. John can do no wrong. MSM is trying to elect him, the way they elected GWB. This is being fed to tv viewers on a daily basis, & will continue to be.
We Dems better think of one hellava strategy to counteract this, or our candidate will be made to lose. Many voters only get their “facts” off of the tube, not blogs or dead tree newspapers, mags, etc.
March 24th, 2008 at 3:43 pmThis is probably the same line of thinking as in a previous era. The State Department website gives us a reminder of history: “Newly elected President Richard M. Nixon declared in 1969 that he would continue the American involvement in the Vietnam War in order to end the conflict and secure “peace with honor…” The point here is you fight wars to end them. Got it?
March 24th, 2008 at 3:52 pmUnless you’re BushCo. Then you fight wars for the graft.
March 24th, 2008 at 4:28 pmMaybe I need to take a nap or something. I just don’t understand Matthews right now. Help anyone?
March 24th, 2008 at 5:10 pmWarning: RIGHTWING NUTJOB TALKING POINTS COMING…
Hah, seriously, I’m about to say something you won’t like, and seeing as I have 2 minutes of battery life left on my computer, I’m going to make it quick and come back later.
If you read McCain’ Financial Times op-ed, you might get the impression I got - that he, unlike Bush, will actually be able to improve our image globally. People see him as a third Bush term here at home, but it’ll be different abroad. That is, of course, assuming he follows through on promises to act on global warming, close Guantanamo Bay, etc. Like Nixon going to China, McCain will have the credibility to do those things with minimal political damage. I honestly think that Obama closing Gitmo would do him much more political harm (cuz the far right will tear him down - unfair, but that’s reality) than it will do McCain.
March 24th, 2008 at 5:21 pmRe Thirdparty:
So we should elect mcrazy because even though he’s the same as bush, the furriners think he’s different? That’s french talk pal, and we don’t cotton to no french talk round here. Now if you was to assert, (that means say, it don’t mean your ass hurts, although it might,) that bin laden wanted the dems to win, then I could agree that we ought to alect mccrazy.
March 24th, 2008 at 9:48 pmActually, it’s somewhat the reverse. We should elect him because he is different from Bush, despite the fact that many on the left think they’re the same!
And no, I won’t assert that bin Laden wants the Dems to win. I have no idea what he wants. It’s a very complicated question that I think requires some deep thought. Yes, bin Laden is pleased that the US is bogged down in Iraq, but he would also be pleased if the US withdrew so he could claim victory and the offshoot organization, al Qaeda in Mesopotamia, could use Anbar as a base. That may be what he’s thinking. Frankly, I think bin Laden would have wanted Ron Paul, though — Paul would have caved into every one of his demands!
March 24th, 2008 at 10:16 pmTweety’s such a dork that we should just ignore him (or ridicule him, or both).
Cheers,
March 25th, 2008 at 1:16 amChris Matthews has snot for brains.
March 25th, 2008 at 1:36 am