McCain silent on reaching 4,000 U.S. deaths in Iraq.
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By on Mar 24th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
McCain silent on reaching 4,000 U.S. deaths in Iraq.
With the deaths of four more soldiers last night, the U.S. military reached the grim marker of 4,000 soldier fatalities in Iraq. Both Sens. Barack Obama (D-IL) and Hillary Clinton (D-NY) released statements recognizing the soldiers for their sacrifice and mourning their families’ loss. One campaign, however, has been silent:
One note — John McCain’s office has issued a statement today about elections in Taiwan but nothing about the 4,000.
On his campaign website, McCain calls for “a greater military commitment” and says “more troops are necessary.”
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McCain:
March 24th, 2008 at 4:05 pm“Statement?
About what?
Where?
Iraq?
Oh, yeah, that… get ol’ what’s his name on the line to tell me what my position is…”
McCain is too busy taking basic history, geography, and religion lessons from Lieberman to pay attention.
March 24th, 2008 at 4:05 pmTo be fair, I don’t think the US military has confirmed the 4,000 number. It comes from an unofficial tally kept by news services, I believe.
I’m sure once it becomes official, McSame will issue a statement declaring that we have to kill even more young Americans so that those who have died already will not have died in vain.
March 24th, 2008 at 4:06 pmI think the entire right wing and their noise machine are keeping this 4,000 milestone as quiet as humanly possible.
It’s interesting that I’ve been keeping tabs on FOX News all morning and they have not mentioned the 4,000 dead ONCE - not ONE time. It’s easy to see why from this video though… I mean, they are clearly the best place for information and have no agenda etc.
VIDEO - FOX is full of crap
March 24th, 2008 at 4:07 pmhttp://www.redlasso.com/ ClipPlayer.aspx?id=bd07d68a-8af0-46d0-a80a-6f6c09478376
THIS IS WHAT HE WOULD SAY
“It’s a tough war we’re in. It’s not going to be over right away. There’s going to be other wars.” Offering more of his increasingly bleak “straight talk,” he repeated the claim: “I’m sorry to tell you, there’s going to be other wars. We will never surrender but there will be other wars.”
McCain did not elaborate who the United States would be fighting. But he did warn the crowd to be ready for the ramifications of current and future battles.
“And right now - we’re gonna have a lot of PTSD [post traumatic stress disorder] to treat, my friends,” he said. “We’re gonna have a lot of combat wounds that have to do with these terrible explosive IEDs that inflict such severe wounds. And my friends, it’s gonna be tough, we’re gonna have a lot to do.”
March 24th, 2008 at 4:09 pmhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/ 2008/ 01/ 27/ mccain-warns-there-will_n_83459.html
March 24th, 2008 at 4:10 pmMcCains exact words to other rich Families in the crowd warning them NOT to let their children join the armed forces In fact here is the video link
“It’s a tough war we’re in. It’s not going to be over right away. There’s going to be other wars.” Offering more of his increasingly bleak “straight talk,” he repeated the claim: “I’m sorry to tell you, there’s going to be other wars. We will never surrender but there will be other wars.”
McCain did not elaborate who the United States would be fighting. But he did warn the crowd to be ready for the ramifications of current and future battles.
“And right now - we’re gonna have a lot of PTSD [post traumatic stress disorder] to treat, my friends,” he said. “We’re gonna have a lot of combat wounds that have to do with these terrible explosive IEDs that inflict such severe wounds. And my friends, it’s gonna be tough, we’re gonna have a lot to do.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ 2008/ 01/ 27/ mccain-warns-there-will_n_83459.html
March 24th, 2008 at 4:12 pmPractically everyone I know currently in the military is telling me as soon as they can they can get out ( with stoploss still going on, who knows when), they are leaving the service.
Chimpy has practically destroyed the military and the incentives to stay. McMonkeyEnabler has no plans to correct and reverse the damage Chimpy has done.
March 24th, 2008 at 4:14 pmHERES WHAT CHENEY SAID ON 4000 US TROOP DEATHS
Wrapping up a nine-day overseas trip to Iraq, Vice President Dick Cheney was asked, in an exclusive interview with ABC News, about the effect on the nation of today’s grim milestone of at least 4,000 U.S. deaths over the five-year Iraq war.
the Vice President said the biggest burden is carried by President Bush, and reminded ABC news that the U.S. military in Iraq and Afghanistan volunteered for duty.
THE ANSWER IS STOP VOLUNTEERING
March 24th, 2008 at 4:17 pmYES! MORE McWARS!
March 24th, 2008 at 4:18 pm“On his campaign website, McCain calls for “a greater military sacrifice” and says “more troop deaths are necessary.”
There TP - fixed that quote for ya.
March 24th, 2008 at 4:18 pmCheney On 4,000 Dead Americans: They Volunteered
WHAT ??????
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ 2008/ 03/ 24/ cheney-on-4000-dead-amer_n_93109.html
March 24th, 2008 at 4:18 pmthe Vice President said the biggest burden is carried by President Bush
…in his pants, in the form of the largest pile of shit in history.
March 24th, 2008 at 4:20 pmTo all mums and dads in America with Cheneys attitude towards your children you should immediately pull your children out the forces NOW or give them a ticket to Canada for safe keeping till after this monstrous war
heres what Cheney would say
SO WHAT ?? THEY VOLUNTEERED
March 24th, 2008 at 4:21 pmWhy, I thought Corporate said everything was dandy…
http://www.light-to-dark.com/the_petraeus_insult.html
…and that, they care. (pictures)
http://www.light-to-dark.com/a_hero_at_walter_reed.html
March 24th, 2008 at 4:22 pmHERES WHAT CHENEY SAID ON 4000 US TROOP DEATHS — “So?”
March 24th, 2008 at 4:24 pm“How did the mental health system of Arizona let the psycopath McDeath slip through the cracks?”
Because Arizona is 48th in the nation in mental health services.
March 24th, 2008 at 4:26 pm@19 - the weakest argument ever advanced, for or against anything - ever.
March 24th, 2008 at 4:30 pmcaredmanI Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
1000 police died in the line of duty past 5 years!! Stop enforcing the law it kills!!!
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Ah, like what is your deal dude? Wanna lay this one out for us because it looks like your only purpose is to get attention. How do you wish thinking people to find these unrelated issues somehow related?
March 24th, 2008 at 4:32 pmOut of those 1,000 police, how many were forcebly held in their job status? How many didn’t get proper equipment? Not to belittle the fine officers that protect our streets but to make a comparison like this doesn’t show the enormity of the one problem, just that there is more than one great struggle going on.
March 24th, 2008 at 4:34 pmThe neocon cabal is being hoisted on its own petard! They need and want this war and so can not in any way admit t5o the “down” side. No mention of the dead, wounded, suffering families, loss of the cream of our country or of the huge PTSD problem that is building even as they remain silent.
That silence, in the face of the reality that Iraq is, is cooking them over a slow fire. The American public has reach a boiling point and there is little time to change course before they rise in justified anger. Revolution is possible folks.
March 24th, 2008 at 4:34 pmWhat a great day for you libs I’m happy for you. The more killed, the happier you libs are.
March 24th, 2008 at 4:36 pmcaredmanI Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Thank you!
My pleasure!
March 24th, 2008 at 4:36 pmKeep posting and I’ll keep flagging!
caredmanI Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
1000 police died in the line of duty past 5 years!! Stop enforcing the law it kills!!!
Typical stupid troll statement designed to piss people off and ruin the thread! Go back to redstate, the site with blood on its hands.
March 24th, 2008 at 4:38 pmImagine how many more will have to die if McCain becomes president, and continues to have “senior moments” concerning whom to attack next.
March 24th, 2008 at 4:40 pmMcCains exact words to other rich Families in the crowd warning them NOT to let their children join the armed forces In fact here is the video link
Tobie, I did not hear McCain tell anyone in that clip at HuffPo to not allow their children to join the armed forces.
March 24th, 2008 at 4:42 pmThe dead can’t vote for him…
March 24th, 2008 at 4:45 pmask him about the wounded.
Tobie Tall Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
HERES WHAT CHENEY SAID ON 4000 US TROOP DEATHS
the Vice President said the biggest burden is carried by President Bush, and reminded ABC news that the U.S. military in Iraq and Afghanistan volunteered for duty.
THE ANSWER IS STOP VOLUNTEERING
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OK, just for the heck of it, let’s pretend for a moment that Cheney’s claim is valid — that Bush really does have a bigger “burden” than those who are getting killed in the line of this insane duty. Didn’t Bush also volunteer? In fact, didn’t he actively campaign for his present job? Why do the sacrifices of our volunteer troops get dissed, but our “overburdened” president does not?
And since we have now established that the ultimate sacrifice of a volunteer soldier (and especially the sacrifices of stop-lossed soldiers, who are no longer volunteers) merely merits the equivalent of a “so what?” from our vice president, young people are less enthused about enlisting than ever. What should we do?
1) We could reinstate the draft. After all, we are trying to fight a global war on terror, which involves invading all countries any terrorist has been known to come from — EXCEPT those countries who are already providing us with the oil we want. We need a steady supply of human fodder to take care of all these invasions, occupations, and regime changes. And the only downside is that a draft will convert couch potatoes into anti-war activists in a way that will make Vietnam War protests look tame.
2) We can continue to trash the economy. Keep unemployment high, and keep busting the budgets of the middle class. Young people will HAVE to sign up for the military because they’ll be broke and jobless otherwise. And the only downside is that a bad economy may come to bite us in the butt come this November. However, we may be able to take care of this by blaming the poor economy on the Democrat(sic)-controlled Congress.
Hmmm — which of these options will the GOP most likely embrace?
March 24th, 2008 at 4:47 pmMcCain calls for “a greater military commitment” and says “more troops are necessary.”
We gave you 4,000 more than you have now. What did you do with them?
March 24th, 2008 at 4:47 pmCheney on the 4,000 dead:
“So? They volunteered.”
It always makes me sad to read a soldier’s obituary, especially when it says the soldier joined after 9/11. Cheney and his evil cohorts took advantage of 9/11 for all it was worth.
McCain seems to be intent on following in Cheney’s footsteps.
March 24th, 2008 at 4:48 pmso when will the freedom fighters of America detonate the IEDs outside the Pentagon, the WHite House, Congress, AIPAC offices, MCCain’s HQ?
March 24th, 2008 at 4:48 pmOT but worth a look for pure weirdness
http://www.slate.com/id/2187034/
I thought I had heard it all.
March 24th, 2008 at 4:50 pmObama said on Monday he reacted “with great sadness” to the news that “we have reached another grim milestone in Iraq, with at least 4,000 of our finest Americans having been killed”.
“It is past time to end this war that should never have been waged by bringing our troops home, and finally pushing Iraq’s leaders to take responsibility for their future,” he said.
March 24th, 2008 at 4:51 pmThe Dick Cheney had this to say about the 4000 deaths:
“the biggest burden is carried by President George W. Bush, who made the decision to commit US troops to war, and reminded the public that U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan volunteered for duty.”
This was said in an interview with Martha Raddatz of ABC - so it may be part of the extended interview where his comment about polls indicating the public was weary of the war and want it over: “So?”
March 24th, 2008 at 4:53 pmKeltoi, you’re right. That is weird.
March 24th, 2008 at 4:54 pmmisshusseinmolly
31 > We could reinstate the draft.
my grandmother always said , Its better to live and fight another day
I would be a conscientious objector rather than fight somebodies elses war
I would be the first insurgent if an occupying force started raping villagers though
March 24th, 2008 at 4:55 pmFor a five-year catalog of McCain’s erroneous statements on Iraq, see:
March 24th, 2008 at 4:57 pm“Forever Wrong: Five Years of John McCain on Iraq.”
Keltoi Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
OT but worth a look for pure weirdness
http://www.slate.com/id/2187034/
I thought I had heard it all.
Yes, well, we are the ones with a sense of humor…..
March 24th, 2008 at 4:57 pmKeltoi Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
OT but worth a look for pure weirdness
http://www.slate.com/id/2187034/
two for the price of one…… might work
March 24th, 2008 at 5:00 pmKeltoi Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
OT but worth a look for pure weirdness
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It’s weird, all right. Did this author think up this insane idea all by himself, or is this a Clinton plant? (I doubt it’s an Obama plant — he’s ahead in this race).
There isn’t a whole lot of love lost between Clinton and Obama, and Clinton is the only one who has even hinted that they could work together (and that was just a tease to get votes away from Obama).
This bizarre arrangement is about as weird as a Ford-Reagan co-presidency in 1976, a Bush-McCain co-presidency in 2000 (or a Gore-Bradley one), or a Clinton-Tsongas co-presidency in 1992.
March 24th, 2008 at 5:01 pmTobie Tall Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
I would be a conscientious objector rather than fight somebodies elses war
I would be the first insurgent if an occupying force started raping villagers though
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Ah — that’s probably because you have this insane idea that defense means defending, not attacking. What a concept!
March 24th, 2008 at 5:03 pmTheres probably an old Vietcong guy out there somewhere that wishes he had chopped McCains tongue off while he had the chance 50 years ago, and done the US a favour
March 24th, 2008 at 5:03 pmLiving in Scotland we all believe in Insurgency , It did wonders against Roman legions that marched over Hadrians wall and completely dissapeared forever , meanwhile my ancestors would be coming down from a magic mushroom trip and washing all that blue body paint off
March 24th, 2008 at 5:06 pmmisshusseinmolly Says:
This bizarre arrangement is about as weird as a Ford-Reagan co-presidency in 1976, a Bush-McCain co-presidency in 2000 (or a Gore-Bradley one), or a Clinton-Tsongas co-presidency in 1992.
Y’know the weirdest thing? In a race this fascinating, there is plenty of real stuff to report on - why go down this rabbit hole?
March 24th, 2008 at 5:08 pmTobie Tall Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Keltoi Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
OT but worth a look for pure weirdness
http://www.slate.com/id/2187034/
two for the price of one…… might work
One problem: Obama might have seen a copy of your earlier history of what happens to close Clinton associates.
What part of Scotland do you live in, BTW?
March 24th, 2008 at 5:10 pmInverness
March 24th, 2008 at 5:15 pmKeltoi Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
OT but worth a look for pure weirdness
http://www.slate.com/id/2187034/
I thought I had heard it all.
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No kidding, that was weird.
March 24th, 2008 at 5:23 pmThe author seems to be smoking some potent stuff,lol
40,000 US dead would not be enough to satisfy this war-mongering fool.
BTW: I froze my ass off this a.m. holding a single vigil outside the local army recruiting office in protest of this war and its dead.
March 24th, 2008 at 5:32 pmMcCain silent on reaching 4,000 U.S. deaths in Iraq.
March 24th, 2008 at 5:36 pmBecause even he knows this IS ONE F-ed UP LIE
It is true we have lost 4,000 men ON IRAQ SOIL.
But this number reported by the DOD does not reflect the 8 times as many that have died en route tot he hospital or after arriving at the hospital. The DOD count never goes up unless a death is reported on Iraqi soil.
AND the news media which is invested in the MIC is now comparing the so called low number of deaths to that in Vietnam, insinuating maybe things are not that bad …the 58,000 death number INCLUDED those that died after arriving to the hospital.
How dare the mic invested media exploit and lie over the facts of our US casualties.
Uncle Ho Says - Nice one - try painting your hands in red paint and leaving red hand prints on the glass( with gloves on though so no fingerprints )
March 24th, 2008 at 5:37 pmUncle Ho
March 24th, 2008 at 5:41 pmI had my local SNP leader knock at my door and I told him “if America attacks Iran Im going to paint ASDA red Big Time” and keep doing it even if I go to jail
I just came back from HuffPo to read about what Cheney had to say about 4000 US dead.
Basically, he said that they asked for it. This from a cowardly piece of shit who hid behind 5 draft deferments!
March 24th, 2008 at 5:50 pmmary Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Cheney on the 4,000 dead:
McCain seems to be intent on following in Cheney’s footsteps.
SEEMS? He IS on board the neocon ship all the way. In my view he has been handpicked by them to continue the 8 year neocon power trip.He willingly sold his soul years ago for the chance of being the POTUS.
March 24th, 2008 at 5:50 pmMerlin Says:
March 24th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
That fundraiser organized by the Rothschilds in London last week was the last straw for me. McCain has completely sold out.
March 24th, 2008 at 6:07 pmcaredmanI Says:
Mr. McCain has 2 Kids in the War!
Which rear-echelon unit are they stashed in??
March 24th, 2008 at 6:54 pmOT: I see James Carville is not a happy camper these days. What with Bill Richardson endorsing Obama over Billary. Seems that he’s throughing around a ‘Judas’ label at Richardson.
Carville should look in a mirror before calling anyone a ‘Judas’. The last I looked, Richardson is not the one married to a shameless Republican party hack named Mary Matalin.
March 24th, 2008 at 7:03 pmJust a WARNING …anyone named McCain ? This is the other SATAN !The Late POPE JOHN PAUL called BUSH anti-christ and said the end of days are near 107xs ! Exams are soon ….a word to the wise…………
March 24th, 2008 at 10:03 pm