Comments on: 21 countries in the world are more ’stable’ than the U.S. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:52:13 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: youtube http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/comment-page-3/#comment-5564094 youtube Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:57:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/#comment-5564094 Tanker trucks with fake documentation, high speed power boats, planes flying in under the radar, underground tunnels, luggage carried by our own <a href="http://www.dostcafem.com" rel="nofollow">sohbet</a> <a href="http://www.dostcafem.com" rel="nofollow">Bedava mp3 indir</a> <a href="http://www.dostcafem.com" rel="nofollow">cet</a>citizens or tourists entering on legitimate visas. Lots of drugs are brought in as cargo with every appearance of being legitimate. Stopping this is basically impossible, unless you want to completely shut down commerce. Tanker trucks with fake documentation, high speed power boats, planes flying in under the radar, underground tunnels, luggage carried by our own sohbet
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]]> By: Horace http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/comment-page-3/#comment-4525590 Horace Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:22:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/#comment-4525590 The other part is to ask? Why do the young and not so young do drugs? I believe it is an escape or response to the crazy society they live in...in other words <strong>"to our way of Life"</strong> Lies, deceptions, pretending to be #1, while being kept totally in the dark of the truth that the rest of the world pities and views us as overweight morons. The dichotomy of Church on Sunday, screw them on Monday. The absence of real parenting and love. The preaching there is no racism anymore when most of those languishing in jails are non-white, etc etc. I think I don't need to go on cause if you don't get it by now you'll never will. The other part is to ask? Why do the young and not so young do drugs? I believe it is an escape or response to the crazy society they live in…in other words “to our way of Life” Lies, deceptions, pretending to be #1, while being kept totally in the dark of the truth that the rest of the world pities and views us as overweight morons. The dichotomy of Church on Sunday, screw them on Monday. The absence of real parenting and love. The preaching there is no racism anymore when most of those languishing in jails are non-white, etc etc. I think I don’t need to go on cause if you don’t get it by now you’ll never will.

]]> By: Horace http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/comment-page-3/#comment-4525238 Horace Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:10:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/#comment-4525238 Let me just say that it is not the immigrant legal or illegal the connection to the drug problem of the U.S. The naive young people (and some not so young) in this society using drugs as a rite of passage into adulthood are the real problem. The law of demand and supply. Once people here stop using drugs the business will dry up. BTW most of the drugs that came in during the eighties came through a little known airport in Arkansas where a well known politician was the governor and gave it the blind eye. During the seventies it's a well known fact their chosen landing place was Florida, nineties on to present they are arriving at the west coast... They come by boat, two engine planes, and fishing boats to deserted spots up California-Oregon border, and through Puerto Rico via Dominican Republic where Darth likes to go fishing. All the Mexican and Central American man smuggles with him are their old tortillas and jalapenos they eat as they cross the Rio grande. Let me just say that it is not the immigrant legal or illegal the connection to the drug problem of the U.S. The naive young people (and some not so young) in this society using drugs as a rite of passage into adulthood are the real problem. The law of demand and supply. Once people here stop using drugs the business will dry up. BTW most of the drugs that came in during the eighties came through a little known airport in Arkansas where a well known politician was the governor and gave it the blind eye. During the seventies it’s a well known fact their chosen landing place was Florida, nineties on to present they are arriving at the west coast… They come by boat, two engine planes, and fishing boats to deserted spots up California-Oregon border, and through Puerto Rico via Dominican Republic where Darth likes to go fishing. All the Mexican and Central American man smuggles with him are their old tortillas and jalapenos they eat as they cross the Rio grande.

]]> By: Jackie http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/comment-page-3/#comment-4488918 Jackie Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:23:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/#comment-4488918 hellinabucket You might be right for the God the Republicans and most Americans follow, I was just talking about the God that created man. I have listen to the Christian Religious Republican Values that we are to follow today. Yes we have a Secretary of State Powell who openly lies to the United Nations, we torture, rape and kill men/woman/children. We have allowed thousands of US soldiers to die based on lies. We see our once honest DOJ now putting Governor Siegleman in jail based on lies. Oh yes let's not forget Senator Vitters our hero who still hires Prostitutes knowing nothing will be done. Larry Craig is just fine with us with his Christian Values while looking for sex from men in the men's room. Oh of course there's Mark Foley who for years selectively looked for kids to molest while our Law Makers knew about it and did nothing but of course no charges were ever filed on this man. One World Leader can believe a word the US says anymore why because for 7 years our Leaders have out right lied but then it is the same Leaders that exhibit the US Religious Values you are talking about. Now to sit around and think what's happening in the US today is ok with the real God then I guess you never read the bible and what God thinks people who act like. Now you might be right about the God being here in the US but it's Satan aka Evil God that is fully in charge. Until Americans face the truth most will continue to believe the lie. It hurts to know we're been tricked and fooled by a group of Evil people, but it's our own fault if we don't change it. hellinabucket You might be right for the God the Republicans and most Americans follow, I was just talking about the God that created man. I have listen to the Christian Religious Republican Values that we are to follow today. Yes we have a Secretary of State Powell who openly lies to the United Nations, we torture, rape and kill men/woman/children. We have allowed thousands of US soldiers to die based on lies. We see our once honest DOJ now putting Governor Siegleman in jail based on lies. Oh yes let’s not forget Senator Vitters our hero who still hires Prostitutes knowing nothing will be done. Larry Craig is just fine with us with his Christian Values while looking for sex from men in the men’s room. Oh of course there’s Mark Foley who for years selectively looked for kids to molest while our Law Makers knew about it and did nothing but of course no charges were ever filed on this man. One World Leader can believe a word the US says anymore why because for 7 years our Leaders have out right lied but then it is the same Leaders that exhibit the US Religious Values you are talking about.

Now to sit around and think what’s happening in the US today is ok with the real God then I guess you never read the bible and what God thinks people who act like. Now you might be right about the God being here in the US but it’s Satan aka Evil God that is fully in charge. Until Americans face the truth most will continue to believe the lie. It hurts to know we’re been tricked and fooled by a group of Evil people, but it’s our own fault if we don’t change it.

]]> By: ForTruth http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/comment-page-3/#comment-4487176 ForTruth Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:28:50 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/#comment-4487176 Yes Keltoi, I agree to let states have more power. Like Republicans used to talk about. Yes Keltoi,

I agree to let states have more power. Like Republicans used to talk about.

]]> By: ForTruth http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/comment-page-3/#comment-4487150 ForTruth Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:27:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/#comment-4487150 Southern Man has no clue that the flow of drugs across our borders is facilitated, in part, by our own people. It pays wayyyyyyy better. Southern Man has no clue that the flow of drugs across our borders is facilitated, in part, by our own people. It pays wayyyyyyy better.

]]> By: hellinabucket http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/comment-page-3/#comment-4485954 hellinabucket Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:51:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/#comment-4485954 Jackie, God never left America. Jackie, God never left America.

]]> By: Jackie http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/comment-page-3/#comment-4485588 Jackie Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:38:09 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/#comment-4485588 Time to make those vacation plans and only go for the top 20 countries. New York was once the place for the World to visit now that everyone can see even the smartest New Yorker will fall for a lie that's out. California was sucked in by Enron and now with Arnie is looking for 16 Billion dollars to cover the stolen money. Texas is the heartland of Satan aka Bush. As for the rest of America it's so much in debt it's not worth the visit. Ohio has 10 per cent of it's citizens on Welfare not much of a vacation spot. Now that Americans, White House and the Media have brought back racism and hate it's best for the Foreign vacationers to go to a place that teaches respect and God's values. Maybe with a new President and hopefully God will come back to America. People will again feel welcome to visit the United States of America. Time to make those vacation plans and only go for the top 20 countries. New York was once the place for the World to visit now that everyone can see even the smartest New Yorker will fall for a lie that’s out. California was sucked in by Enron and now with Arnie is looking for 16 Billion dollars to cover the stolen money. Texas is the heartland of Satan aka Bush. As for the rest of America it’s so much in debt it’s not worth the visit. Ohio has 10 per cent of it’s citizens on Welfare not much of a vacation spot. Now that Americans, White House and the Media have brought back racism and hate it’s best for the Foreign vacationers to go to a place that teaches respect and God’s values.

Maybe with a new President and hopefully God will come back to America. People will again feel welcome to visit the United States of America.

]]> By: pete http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/comment-page-3/#comment-4485544 pete Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:36:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/#comment-4485544 Oh, this is just too precious. The serial liar, Daryll, bemoaning the U.S. education system? First, foreign kids aren't "more intelligent" they are better educated. Why? Because their parents don't replace science with infantile fairy tales. Oh, this is just too precious. The serial liar, Daryll, bemoaning the U.S. education system? First, foreign kids aren’t “more intelligent” they are better educated. Why? Because their parents don’t replace science with infantile fairy tales.

]]> By: Keltoi http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/comment-page-2/#comment-4485408 Keltoi Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:31:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/#comment-4485408 <em>hellinabucket Says: March 25th, 2008 at 4:24 pm Keltoi Says: March 25th, 2008 at 4:07 pm I agree. An argument can be made that a smaller country that has more control over it’s borders, infrastructure, etc…. is more desirable than others.</em> Indeed. Plato theorized in the Republic that democracy became increasingly difficult when you exceeded 10,000 citizens. Too bad the Macedonians weren't too concerned with democracy. But smaller is definitely better, local control = enlightened self interest rules. hellinabucket Says:
March 25th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Keltoi Says:
March 25th, 2008 at 4:07 pm

I agree. An argument can be made that a smaller country that has more control over it’s borders, infrastructure, etc…. is more desirable than others.

Indeed. Plato theorized in the Republic that democracy became increasingly difficult when you exceeded 10,000 citizens. Too bad the Macedonians weren’t too concerned with democracy. But smaller is definitely better, local control = enlightened self interest rules.

]]> By: hellinabucket http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/comment-page-2/#comment-4485178 hellinabucket Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:24:09 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/#comment-4485178 Keltoi Says: March 25th, 2008 at 4:07 pm I agree. An argument can be made that a smaller country that has more control over it's borders, infrastructure, etc.... is more desirable than others. Keltoi Says:
March 25th, 2008 at 4:07 pm

I agree. An argument can be made that a smaller country that has more control over it’s borders, infrastructure, etc…. is more desirable than others.

]]> By: Bilbo Hussein Baggins http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/comment-page-2/#comment-4484882 Bilbo Hussein Baggins Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:15:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/#comment-4484882 <em>Jeremy in Denver Says: March 25th, 2008 at 2:29 pm You still owe me an apology for that, and don’t think I have forgotten it, or forgiven it.</em> Please enlighten me. Why am I supposed to apologize to you? And I could care less if you carry a grudge. That's your problem not mine and more a reflection of what kind of a person you are. Jeremy in Denver Says:
March 25th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
You still owe me an apology for that, and don’t think I have forgotten it, or forgiven it.

Please enlighten me. Why am I supposed to apologize to you? And I could care less if you carry a grudge. That’s your problem not mine and more a reflection of what kind of a person you are.

]]> By: Bilbo Hussein Baggins http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/comment-page-2/#comment-4484744 Bilbo Hussein Baggins Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:11:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/#comment-4484744 <em>But I forget. The world can’t be shades of grey. To your mind, it can only be black and white. Much like the right-wing mouthpieces you jump on, you believe that your answer is the only one. I like to think that unlike your display in the last time we exchanged over the topic of porous borders that let Illegals in that I can respectfully disagree with those who hold different opinions than I, as long as they do the same for me. You still owe me an apology for that, and don’t think I have forgotten it, or forgiven it.</em> Yes, we can agree to disagree. There is nothing black and white in my answers. I see the problem of undocumented workers to be many shades of gray. It is totally impossible for us to build any kind of a barrier that will keep them out permanently. As I said before, if we build a 10 foot fence, they will bring a 11 foot ladder. If we really want to get serious about doing something about the undocumented workers in this country, we need to start by arresting the white people here who hire them. They WOULD NOT COME IF THERE WERE NOT JOBS! But I forget. The world can’t be shades of grey. To your mind, it can only be black and white. Much like the right-wing mouthpieces you jump on, you believe that your answer is the only one. I like to think that unlike your display in the last time we exchanged over the topic of porous borders that let Illegals in that I can respectfully disagree with those who hold different opinions than I, as long as they do the same for me. You still owe me an apology for that, and don’t think I have forgotten it, or forgiven it.

Yes, we can agree to disagree. There is nothing black and white in my answers. I see the problem of undocumented workers to be many shades of gray. It is totally impossible for us to build any kind of a barrier that will keep them out permanently. As I said before, if we build a 10 foot fence, they will bring a 11 foot ladder.

If we really want to get serious about doing something about the undocumented workers in this country, we need to start by arresting the white people here who hire them. They WOULD NOT COME IF THERE WERE NOT JOBS!

]]> By: Keltoi http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/comment-page-2/#comment-4484620 Keltoi Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:07:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/#comment-4484620 <em>hellinabucket Says: March 25th, 2008 at 3:55 pm Keltoi, do you really put much emphasis on this list? I don’t.</em> Nah. Very subjective to start, but the top 50 is dominated by miniscule countries that are only able to exist because of alliance with larger powers. The U.S. has by far the largest population on the list, followed by Japan with a lower ranking and about half our population, the vast majority of it ethnically/culturally homogeneous. So no, the list is fun, but I don't see any way to make a valid comparison between a country of 300+ million and a city-state like Monaco. hellinabucket Says:
March 25th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Keltoi,

do you really put much emphasis on this list? I don’t.

Nah. Very subjective to start, but the top 50 is dominated by miniscule countries that are only able to exist because of alliance with larger powers.

The U.S. has by far the largest population on the list, followed by Japan with a lower ranking and about half our population, the vast majority of it ethnically/culturally homogeneous.

So no, the list is fun, but I don’t see any way to make a valid comparison between a country of 300+ million and a city-state like Monaco.

]]> By: hellinabucket http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/comment-page-2/#comment-4484218 hellinabucket Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:55:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/#comment-4484218 Keltoi, do you really put much emphasis on this list? I don't. Keltoi,

do you really put much emphasis on this list? I don’t.

]]> By: hellinabucket http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/comment-page-2/#comment-4484182 hellinabucket Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:55:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/#comment-4484182 There are some reports saying the CIA is assisting to keep revenue streams open for the funding of the more covert operations. Iran Contra shows it was already done. One could easily use the same logic that this administration has used in accusing Iraq of WMD's that the CIA has continued to have a hand in smuggling drugs into the US. "Absense of evidence doesn't show evidence of Absense" Or something along those lines from our old Sec Def Rumy. There are some reports saying the CIA is assisting to keep revenue streams open for the funding of the more covert operations.

Iran Contra shows it was already done. One could easily use the same logic that this administration has used in accusing Iraq of WMD’s that the CIA has continued to have a hand in smuggling drugs into the US. “Absense of evidence doesn’t show evidence of Absense” Or something along those lines from our old Sec Def Rumy.

]]> By: Keltoi http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/comment-page-2/#comment-4484078 Keltoi Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:51:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/#comment-4484078 9 of the 21 countries on the top 21 have populations that would be dwarfed by any of a dozen US cities. I am not real sure how valid this assessment is. I mean, c'mon, the Vatican? They are defended by guys with Halberds. 9 of the 21 countries on the top 21 have populations that would be dwarfed by any of a dozen US cities. I am not real sure how valid this assessment is.

I mean, c’mon, the Vatican? They are defended by guys with Halberds.

]]> By: StratRat http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/comment-page-2/#comment-4483874 StratRat Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:42:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/#comment-4483874 <em>hellinabucket Says: March 25th, 2008 at 3:25 pm so sad and true tombaker. It was reported earlier in the year (or maybe late last year) that there will be another record crop of opium coming from Afhganistan. Breaking the previous record made a year earlier.</em> Do not forget South America. There are some reports that the CIA is assisting in smuggling drugs (cocaine) into the US as a way to keep the 'alliances' intact. Bush would probably pick the wrong horse in a one horse race. hellinabucket Says:
March 25th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
so sad and true tombaker. It was reported earlier in the year (or maybe late last year) that there will be another record crop of opium coming from Afhganistan. Breaking the previous record made a year earlier.

Do not forget South America. There are some reports that the CIA is assisting in smuggling drugs (cocaine) into the US as a way to keep the ‘alliances’ intact. Bush would probably pick the wrong horse in a one horse race.

]]> By: hellinabucket http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/comment-page-2/#comment-4483364 hellinabucket Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:25:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/#comment-4483364 so sad and true tombaker. It was reported earlier in the year (or maybe late last year) that there will be another record crop of opium coming from Afhganistan. Breaking the previous record made a year earlier. so sad and true tombaker. It was reported earlier in the year (or maybe late last year) that there will be another record crop of opium coming from Afhganistan. Breaking the previous record made a year earlier.

]]> By: tombaker http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/comment-page-2/#comment-4483108 tombaker Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:18:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/21-countries-in-the-world-are-more-stable-than-the-us/#comment-4483108 I wonder how much opium/heroin is making its way from Afghanistan back to the States courtesy of all those Gang-Bangers we've allowed into the military? Crips, Bloods, Vice Lords, Sureno, Norteno, MS13 - all the big gangs in the US now have significant numbers enlisted overseas, where they are advancing their own cause and setting up new overseas chapters. Is our military misadventure contributing to the number of hopeless addicts on our streets right now? If it is, you can be sure the PR prerogative will prevent us from finding out. I wonder how much opium/heroin is making its way from Afghanistan back to the States courtesy of all those Gang-Bangers we’ve allowed into the military?

Crips, Bloods, Vice Lords, Sureno, Norteno, MS13 – all the big gangs in the US now have significant numbers enlisted overseas, where they are advancing their own cause and setting up new overseas chapters.

Is our military misadventure contributing to the number of hopeless addicts on our streets right now? If it is, you can be sure the PR prerogative will prevent us from finding out.

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