Graham: McCain not all that ‘different’ from Bush.
By on Mar 27th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Graham: McCain not all that ‘different’ from Bush.
Responding to Sen. John McCain’s (R-AZ) foreign policy address yesterday, the country’s three top newspapers appear to have accepted at face value McCain’s newfound commitment to international cooperation. But last night on CNN, even Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) disputed that McCain is “different” from Bush. Watch it:
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Yeah, Lindsay, that’s reassuring.
NOT.
March 27th, 2008 at 1:58 pmKeep spreading the message. 4 more years
March 27th, 2008 at 2:00 pmIn another shocking revelation, Graham revealed that at midnight, it’s usually dark outside.
March 27th, 2008 at 2:03 pmKeep on “helping” McCain, Graham.
March 27th, 2008 at 2:05 pmLMSAO….
GDumbya and Johnny McSame — just two regular guys who both put their Depends© on one leg at a time.
March 27th, 2008 at 2:07 pmDidntsay Graham
March 27th, 2008 at 2:08 pmMcCain not all that ‘different’ from Bush.
That’s a sure-fire winning message, there, Linz.
Keep puttin’ it out there.
March 27th, 2008 at 2:08 pmIt is all about getting the base lined up before the Democrat nomination is settled. Then McCain will start backpedaling to appeal to independent voters. With the collaboration and collusion of the corrupt media, it just might be successful.
March 27th, 2008 at 2:09 pmoh lindsey, you are detached from reality.
March 27th, 2008 at 2:09 pmand don’t forget that Joe LIEberman is a “national treasure,” too. Way to remind us NOT to visit South Carolina, Lindsey!
March 27th, 2008 at 2:10 pm“McCain not all tbat ‘different’ from Bush.
We know, that’s what we’re afraid of.
March 27th, 2008 at 2:13 pmWhich is WHY he should NOT be elected.
When this America finally turns into a socialist country you wont have the liberty to vote the bad eggs out!
Fat lot of good that’s done us lately.
March 27th, 2008 at 2:17 pmprogressinourminds Says:
McCian only wishes he had the fortitude and American solidarity that Bush has!
Ummm….That was only right after 9/11. Since then, his torture of our enemies in violation of the Geneva Convention, his repeal of our civil rights, his illegal spying and expansion of executive power have led a majority of Americans to disapprove the Chimperor. Hardly “American solidarity.”
March 27th, 2008 at 2:18 pmThats very true
Dumb and Dumber
March 27th, 2008 at 2:22 pmprogressinourminds Says:
Oh good, the caringman is back!
But last night on CNN, even Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) disputed that McCain is “different” from Bush.
Did Lindsey get his Fox script and his CNN script mixed up? Truth be told, I’m having a harder and harder time telling the difference too.
March 27th, 2008 at 2:25 pmSouthern Man Says:
March 27th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Mc Cain is not Bush, no matter how hard you try and spin it.
Seems like McCain and Lindsey Graham are the ones trying to spin McCain into Bush, seems to me Lindsey’s like a reverse Rumplestilskin… spinning straw into shit.
March 27th, 2008 at 2:28 pmActually, McTickingBomb is very much like the Nazi Chimp and also very different. McSenile is the propped up Maverick presented to the sheeple. The Complicit Media are being fed by McBomb. (They say he can throw a great cookout — helped out, I’m sure by illegal immigrants)
And We the Sheeple are being fed an image, once again. Like the Nazi Chimp who was presented as an everyday kind of guy, a kind of guy that cuts down brush. In actuality, he is a blueblood from Connectiut.
So, the Bought and Sold Media are now chowing down on ribs, and not calling McLame on the issues– (economics, foreign policy. So, in that sense McWars is a puppet (like Bush) to push the neoCON agenda forward.
The only difference, that I can see is McCain has a bad temperament. Will the Media call McLame when tells someone to go f_ck themselves on the campaign trail.
Obviously, McBomb is not suited to be president. But, neither was the chimp. They have a lot of handlers helping them every step of the way.
March 27th, 2008 at 2:28 pmprogressinourminds Says:
March 27th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
McCian only wishes he had the fortitude and American solidarity that Bush has! When this America finally turns into a socialist country you wont have the liberty to vote the bad eggs out!
You do now that socialism is an economic system, not a political system, do you not? After all, Britain, all the Scandinavian countries, France and so forth have very large “socialist” components as part of their economy. Yet they also have elections, and based on those we’ve had in this country since 2000 (if not before), probably a good deal more honestly democratic.
Those of you who confuse socialist economic policies with the totalitarian and authoritarian stances of such countries as the former Soviet Union, China and Vietnam need to educate yourselves. Obviously, China and Russia, having massively swung into capitalism, are hardly bastians of “democratic thought.”
March 27th, 2008 at 2:30 pmSouthern Man Says:
March 27th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
It’s very interesting to watch how a month ago you and others were posting such memorable positive thinking points like, ” The republicans will not be elected!” And now you post, “Which is WHY they should not be elected.” Where is that positive swagger Ho? Mc Cain is not Bush, no matter how hard you try and spin it.
It’s still the Democrats election to lose, SM, although it’s always been clear to me that they’re capable of it. McCain is older than Bush, possibly more bellicose than Bush, but he has yet to do or say anything to suggest that he would do anything differently. He may speak a little less arrogantly, but he’s got the same authoritarian mindset, and he’s just another neoconservative tool.
March 27th, 2008 at 2:30 pmthe more he associates himself with Bush the least we will see MacCocaine next year! Bush is MacCaine, MacCaine is Bush,Bush is MacCaine, MacCaine is Bush,Bush is MacCaine, MacCaine is Bush,Bush is MacCaine, MacCaine is Bush,Bush is MacCaine, MacCaine is Bush,Bush is MacCaine, MacCaine is Bush,Bush is MacCaine, MacCaine is Bush!!!! The more the better!
March 27th, 2008 at 2:31 pmThis election is for the Republicans to lose. After everything is all said and done, the Democrats (whoever the nominee will be) will be victorious in November.
Hillary and/or Obama will out shine this old “out of touch” geezer come fall.
March 27th, 2008 at 2:33 pmprogressinourminds Says:
March 27th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
McCian only wishes he had the fortitude and American solidarity that Bush has!
Huh? You forget that the Rove-Bush agenda is to divide America, not consolidate it.
March 27th, 2008 at 2:35 pmSouthern Idiot; your mother is calling you, return to her basement immediately.
March 27th, 2008 at 2:40 pm.
M c B U S H !
.
March 27th, 2008 at 2:41 pmAttack of the Clones!
March 27th, 2008 at 2:45 pmprogressinourminds @ 2:56
To each, according to their needs.
From each, according to their talents.
Karl Marx
March 27th, 2008 at 3:00 pmhttp://www.light-to-dark.com/McBush.html
March 27th, 2008 at 3:01 pmNot sure how relevant socialism is to a thread on how Graham (man he is all over the place these days!) said that McCain is not that different from Bush (they both do and say as they’re told?), but, my understanding is that countries like Canada & Sweden, both considered quite socialist, both have very high qualities of life.
March 27th, 2008 at 3:03 pma socialist policy is abhorrent to the British ideas of freedom. Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the object worship of the state. It will prescribe for every one where they are to work, what they are to work at, where they may go and what they may say. Socialism is an attack on the right to breathe freely. No socialist system can be established without a political police. They would have to fall back on some form of Gestapo, no doubt very humanely directed in the first instance.
March 27th, 2008 at 3:05 pmChurchill
That is why we currently have FACISM in America!
Once the dems end their fighting and they know who the dem candidate will be, he is going to move toward the center( where I believe he has always been, except for the war) and begin attracting the moderates, and some disenfranchised dems. 2 in 10 democrats are already stating that if their candidate does not win the nomination, they will vote for Mc Cain.
You can only hope. But when all is said and done, no self-respecting Democrat is going to vote for a Republican. They know that this country could not survive another 4 years of Republican rule. Also, the Democrats are outvoting the Republicans 3-1 and there are lots of new young voters out there who are not going to vote Republican. The Democrats would have to do something really stupid to lose this election. I doubt they are going to do it.
March 27th, 2008 at 4:24 pmMust be some obscure law that says Lindsey has to tell the truth once a week whether he feels like it or not. Bummer for Johnny that he had a CNN camera on his face when his turn came up this week. Still don’t get it S&M Man. How do you conflate a Republican senator denying differences between McCain and the worst president in U.S. history into progressive “spinning”? Graham’s comments won’t vanish into the ether the day (assuming it ever comes) when McCain has the opportunity to try to move towards the middle. If McCain is still trying to convince the right wing to vote for him a month after sewing up the nomination then he is in far more trouble than I thought.
March 27th, 2008 at 4:32 pmSouthern Man Says:
Um… SM? Didn’t think I needed to point this out AGAIN, but there is no “democrat party”.
You see, “Democrat” is a noun. “Democratic” is the adjective you’re after. Democratic Party.
I only say this because I know some of your political ilk seem to think it’s funny to use an improper form of the party name. I don’t know whether it’s an expression of disdain, or some private joke, or just another example of the Republican antipathy toward education, but it seems kind of childish to me.
Anyway, I know you’re not one of those, and you probably just picked it up subconsciously when you were hanging around that crowd. I figured you’d appreciate being set straight.
March 27th, 2008 at 4:51 pmSM,
You are correct that McCain is the winner in this Democratic food fight, and Hillary is showing a nasty streak right now. But when the dust settles, there aren’t going to be any D’s voting for McCain and very few I’s either. This country has seen enough of the ruination of Bush and the Boyz. The R’s would be smart to denounce the Chimp openly and publicly. McCain is killing any chance he might have by associating himself with that loser. And that association is exactly what Graham is doing.
March 27th, 2008 at 4:54 pmSouthern Man Says:
March 27th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
I don’t care who wins. It doesn’t matter who you elect president anymore, they are all the same. The country is to divided to have a president make a difference.
That’s bullshit.
Anyone who thinks that Gore would have been the same president as Bush turned out to be, doesn’t deserve to have a say in who represents him.
March 27th, 2008 at 5:04 pmBush divided the country. By design. He and KKKarl played the politics of division and hate and fear to the detriment of our country. McCain is a Bush clone and will continue to divide us. Hillary is divisive as well. Obama is the only one who has a chance of bring the country together.
It does matter. If you give a shit about America that is.
March 27th, 2008 at 5:11 pmThank you for that intelligent response SM. I wouldn’t read too much into the polling numbers re the hostility between Clinton and Obama supporters at this time (if it goes to the convention all bets are off). That kind of talk is born of the emotion of the moment and somewhat tracks the reaction of a number of right wing Republicans who threatened to bolt or stay home if McCain won the nomination. As you say, they will mostly vote for him because they always vote Republican. The difference I see is that the unseemly playground fight on the D side is basically a personality dispute between two candidates whose platforms don’t deviate too far from each other or their party’s core policies. Once a nominee is chosen everyone can at least buy into the message. McCain has to deal with party operatives who may vote for him but have entusiasm for working for him or contributing to him because they don’t think he is conservative enough. Thus he has to pander to the base when he should be attracting the less ideological undecideds. His solution seems to be to sound moderate one day (”we need to listen to our allies”) and conservative the next (Graham’s comments to CNN today). Doesn’t sound like a winning strategy to me but I couldn’t see 2004 coming after Bush was proven wrong on all counts about Iraq so what do I know.
March 27th, 2008 at 5:12 pmSM; democrat party?
What if everyone called the GOP the republic party?
You better write that letter to Santa Claus right now asking for some smarts.
McBush = 100 year occupation Iraq + bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.translation: A vote for McCain is a vote to kill American soldiers.
Amerika has sewn the wind with it’s neo-Nazi war of aggeression, and will reap the whirlwind-deservedly so.
March 27th, 2008 at 5:40 pmSouthern Man, Of course you care for this country, we all do. If I recall, there are four little Southern Children that will inherit the results of wherever we take this country.
Hopefully, we will leave them a more united and stronger country than we have now. And I hope we don’t saddle them with a huge tax bill and a devalued dollar.
I have two younger nanlichis, both in their early Twenties and I can tell you that they and their friends are excited and engaged in politics like I haven’t seen since Vietnam days. And the reason is Obama. They are hopaholics.
I can’t see the future of this country being left to tired old men with tired old ideas. The last seven years have taken a real toll, 4 more might be too much.
Suck a crawdad for me SM. I mean that in a nice way.
March 27th, 2008 at 6:09 pmSouthern Man Says:
March 27th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
I hear “democrat or democrats” from democratics and republicans around me. It’s not in disdain. The top of the hour ABC news report on the radio says “democrats” when they are talking about them. It’s getting so common lately that I don’t ever notice it anymore.
You DO know the difference between a “noun” and an “adjective”, don’t you?
“Democrat” is perfectly acceptable when talking about a member of the Democratic Party. In fact, it’s proper.
You see the difference?
A Democrat.
The Democratic PARTY.
“Democrat” is a NOUN. “Democratic” is an adjective.
Let’s try a short exercise:
“A Democrat is an enthusiastic member of the Democratic Party”.
Can you identify the nouns?
Right! “Democrat”, “member” and “Party” are the nouns.
Can you identify the adjectives?
Excellent! “enthusiastic” and “Democratic” are the adjectives. Well done.
I think we’ve made progress here today.
March 27th, 2008 at 6:19 pmSouthern Man Says:
March 27th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
I saw a “Family Guy” episode the other night where Stewie goes back in time and alters parts of history and Gore is the president instead of Bush. All was good in the world. I had to laugh and say “what if”.
Your point?
March 27th, 2008 at 6:20 pmOf course McCain, I mean McBush isn’t that different from Bush. This is clearly an attempt at a third Bush term. What’s sad is that half the fools who vote want a third Bush term. I guess their slogan should be, “BUSH-MCCAIN, NO WAR NOT PAIN, THE ECONOMY, WHAT A SHAME, WE EXCEPT NO BLAME, WAR IS OUR GAME AND CLAIM TO FAME”.
Who knows, “The Shadow” knows!
March 28th, 2008 at 9:54 am