Comments on: Graham: McCain not all that ‘different’ from Bush.

By: The Shadow

The Shadow — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:54:02 +0000

Of course McCain, I mean McBush isn’t that different from Bush. This is clearly an attempt at a third Bush term. What’s sad is that half the fools who vote want a third Bush term. I guess their slogan should be, “BUSH-MCCAIN, NO WAR NOT PAIN, THE ECONOMY, WHAT A SHAME, WE EXCEPT NO BLAME, WAR IS OUR GAME AND CLAIM TO FAME”.

Who knows, “The Shadow” knows!

By: ralph the wonder llama

ralph the wonder llama — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:20:14 +0000

Southern Man Says:
March 27th, 2008 at 5:29 pm

I saw a “Family Guy” episode the other night where Stewie goes back in time and alters parts of history and Gore is the president instead of Bush. All was good in the world. I had to laugh and say “what if”.

Your point?

By: ralph the wonder llama

ralph the wonder llama — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:19:20 +0000

Southern Man Says:
March 27th, 2008 at 5:12 pm

I hear “democrat or democrats” from democratics and republicans around me. It’s not in disdain. The top of the hour ABC news report on the radio says “democrats” when they are talking about them. It’s getting so common lately that I don’t ever notice it anymore.

You DO know the difference between a “noun” and an “adjective”, don’t you?

“Democrat” is perfectly acceptable when talking about a member of the Democratic Party. In fact, it’s proper.

You see the difference?

A Democrat.

The Democratic PARTY.

“Democrat” is a NOUN. “Democratic” is an adjective.

Let’s try a short exercise:

“A Democrat is an enthusiastic member of the Democratic Party”.

Can you identify the nouns?

Right! “Democrat”, “member” and “Party” are the nouns.

Can you identify the adjectives?

Excellent! “enthusiastic” and “Democratic” are the adjectives. Well done.

I think we’ve made progress here today.

By: nanlichi

nanlichi — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:09:28 +0000

Southern Man, Of course you care for this country, we all do. If I recall, there are four little Southern Children that will inherit the results of wherever we take this country.

Hopefully, we will leave them a more united and stronger country than we have now. And I hope we don’t saddle them with a huge tax bill and a devalued dollar.

I have two younger nanlichis, both in their early Twenties and I can tell you that they and their friends are excited and engaged in politics like I haven’t seen since Vietnam days. And the reason is Obama. They are hopaholics.

I can’t see the future of this country being left to tired old men with tired old ideas. The last seven years have taken a real toll, 4 more might be too much.

Suck a crawdad for me SM. I mean that in a nice way.

By: Uncle Ho

Uncle Ho — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:40:46 +0000

SM; democrat party?
What if everyone called the GOP the republic party?

You better write that letter to Santa Claus right now asking for some smarts.

McBush = 100 year occupation Iraq + bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.translation: A vote for McCain is a vote to kill American soldiers.

Amerika has sewn the wind with it’s neo-Nazi war of aggeression, and will reap the whirlwind-deservedly so.

By: paleolib

paleolib — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:12:14 +0000

Thank you for that intelligent response SM. I wouldn’t read too much into the polling numbers re the hostility between Clinton and Obama supporters at this time (if it goes to the convention all bets are off). That kind of talk is born of the emotion of the moment and somewhat tracks the reaction of a number of right wing Republicans who threatened to bolt or stay home if McCain won the nomination. As you say, they will mostly vote for him because they always vote Republican. The difference I see is that the unseemly playground fight on the D side is basically a personality dispute between two candidates whose platforms don’t deviate too far from each other or their party’s core policies. Once a nominee is chosen everyone can at least buy into the message. McCain has to deal with party operatives who may vote for him but have entusiasm for working for him or contributing to him because they don’t think he is conservative enough. Thus he has to pander to the base when he should be attracting the less ideological undecideds. His solution seems to be to sound moderate one day (”we need to listen to our allies”) and conservative the next (Graham’s comments to CNN today). Doesn’t sound like a winning strategy to me but I couldn’t see 2004 coming after Bush was proven wrong on all counts about Iraq so what do I know.

By: nanlichi

nanlichi — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:11:42 +0000

Bush divided the country. By design. He and KKKarl played the politics of division and hate and fear to the detriment of our country. McCain is a Bush clone and will continue to divide us. Hillary is divisive as well. Obama is the only one who has a chance of bring the country together.

It does matter. If you give a shit about America that is.

By: ralph the wonder llama

ralph the wonder llama — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:04:14 +0000

Southern Man Says:
March 27th, 2008 at 4:57 pm

I don’t care who wins. It doesn’t matter who you elect president anymore, they are all the same. The country is to divided to have a president make a difference.

That’s bullshit.

Anyone who thinks that Gore would have been the same president as Bush turned out to be, doesn’t deserve to have a say in who represents him.

By: nanlichi

nanlichi — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:54:44 +0000

SM,

You are correct that McCain is the winner in this Democratic food fight, and Hillary is showing a nasty streak right now. But when the dust settles, there aren’t going to be any D’s voting for McCain and very few I’s either. This country has seen enough of the ruination of Bush and the Boyz. The R’s would be smart to denounce the Chimp openly and publicly. McCain is killing any chance he might have by associating himself with that loser. And that association is exactly what Graham is doing.

By: ralph the wonder llama

ralph the wonder llama — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:51:35 +0000

Southern Man Says:

Um… SM? Didn’t think I needed to point this out AGAIN, but there is no “democrat party”.

You see, “Democrat” is a noun. “Democratic” is the adjective you’re after. Democratic Party.

I only say this because I know some of your political ilk seem to think it’s funny to use an improper form of the party name. I don’t know whether it’s an expression of disdain, or some private joke, or just another example of the Republican antipathy toward education, but it seems kind of childish to me.

Anyway, I know you’re not one of those, and you probably just picked it up subconsciously when you were hanging around that crowd. I figured you’d appreciate being set straight.

By: paleolib

paleolib — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:32:37 +0000

Must be some obscure law that says Lindsey has to tell the truth once a week whether he feels like it or not. Bummer for Johnny that he had a CNN camera on his face when his turn came up this week. Still don’t get it S&M Man. How do you conflate a Republican senator denying differences between McCain and the worst president in U.S. history into progressive “spinning”? Graham’s comments won’t vanish into the ether the day (assuming it ever comes) when McCain has the opportunity to try to move towards the middle. If McCain is still trying to convince the right wing to vote for him a month after sewing up the nomination then he is in far more trouble than I thought.

By: Bilbo Hussein Baggins

Bilbo Hussein Baggins — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:24:23 +0000

Once the dems end their fighting and they know who the dem candidate will be, he is going to move toward the center( where I believe he has always been, except for the war) and begin attracting the moderates, and some disenfranchised dems. 2 in 10 democrats are already stating that if their candidate does not win the nomination, they will vote for Mc Cain.

You can only hope. But when all is said and done, no self-respecting Democrat is going to vote for a Republican. They know that this country could not survive another 4 years of Republican rule. Also, the Democrats are outvoting the Republicans 3-1 and there are lots of new young voters out there who are not going to vote Republican. The Democrats would have to do something really stupid to lose this election. I doubt they are going to do it.

By: sacopenapa

sacopenapa — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:05:18 +0000

a socialist policy is abhorrent to the British ideas of freedom. Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the object worship of the state. It will prescribe for every one where they are to work, what they are to work at, where they may go and what they may say. Socialism is an attack on the right to breathe freely. No socialist system can be established without a political police. They would have to fall back on some form of Gestapo, no doubt very humanely directed in the first instance.
Churchill
That is why we currently have FACISM in America!

By: mary

mary — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:03:31 +0000

Not sure how relevant socialism is to a thread on how Graham (man he is all over the place these days!) said that McCain is not that different from Bush (they both do and say as they’re told?), but, my understanding is that countries like Canada & Sweden, both considered quite socialist, both have very high qualities of life.

By: lthuedk

lthuedk — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:01:44 +0000

http://www.light-to-dark.com/McBush.html

By: Uncle Ho

Uncle Ho — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:00:58 +0000

progressinourminds @ 2:56

To each, according to their needs.
From each, according to their talents.

Karl Marx

By: Evil Spaniard

Evil Spaniard — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:45:02 +0000

Attack of the Clones!

By: Max-1

Max-1 — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:41:23 +0000

M c B U S H !

By: Uncle Ho

Uncle Ho — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:40:14 +0000

Southern Idiot; your mother is calling you, return to her basement immediately.

By: Xisithrus

Xisithrus — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:35:33 +0000

progressinourminds Says:
March 27th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
McCian only wishes he had the fortitude and American solidarity that Bush has!

Huh? You forget that the Rove-Bush agenda is to divide America, not consolidate it.