Get it now? The reduction is purely dell inspiron 5000e battery,dell inspiron 2600 battery nominal, and is coming from a level that is near the all-time high.

“I never said things were great, I said there not as bad or as you write, ” a dismal failure”. Much progress is being made and it’s mostly being ignored by the media. And the garbage they do write, is only the negative garbage. Kind of like Iraq…”

I’ve gotta say that I was trying hard to give you the benefit of the doubt in reading this thread but you really lost me with the Iraq point of view. Yeah that’s it, Iraq is incredibly stable and prosperous, the media are just distorting the situation through their coverage, right?
You’ve lost all credibility with me.

Iraq is the worst blunder in American history. We have destabilized a critical area of the world and have strengthened the hand of Iran, our arch enemy whereby we have no good options whatsoever, we cant leave and we cant stay, and you are of the perspective that reporting from Iraq or about Iraq is what, not rosy enough?

That cracks me up. Acknowledging the drop, without acknowledging the primary cause of that drop, (bribery of former enemies on a massive scale) is counterproductive.

Its like someone reporting how good a cancer patient is feeling while failing to mention that all the doctor did was shoot him up with massive doses of morphine. Without that critical piece of knowledge one might be mistakenly lead to believe that whatever the doctor did was actually addressing the problem instead of finding a temporary solution .

Personally, I would have taken a different tact. I would have acknowledge the reduction in violence but show how is was achieved only by turning what is the logistical equivalent of the Iraqi Taliban into multimillionares.
But I dont run this board, and in my mind, not acknowedging fasle and misleading “reductions” is the second best tact.

iraq will be a beacon of freedom and democracy in 6 months

6 months after that we will be turning a profit on iraqi oil

we have more than enough money to keep 140000 troop is in the middle east indefinitely

it won’t matter when the dollar is worth half a Euro

Anything else you require capitulation on, smart guy??

That Bush, Cheney, McCain, and Rush Limbaugh all agree on Iraq ain’t sayin’ a hell of a lot.

That’s the same as saying that all the salesman at the car lot told you it would be really smart to go ahead and buy a car from one of them, therefore there was a “general acceptance” that buying a new car is what you should do.

If I knew of some dumb liberals you could go practice your stuff on before trying it here I’d do it, but I don’t know of any.

Your grandchildren’s future is being pissed away, while other people’s grandchildren and grandparents are dying for no good reason. Our wealth and our military are finite things – I know some people take that as treason, but it’s just a brute fact. Will you be ready to leave when the dollar is finally worth the same as a peso? A rupee? Will you be ready to leave after reading about another young soldier losing his mind after years of stop-loss and 10 combat tours?

My point was – no matter how long you wait, and apply gauze, and administer antibiotics and salve and prayers and whatever-else-you-can-think-of, when that arrow gets pulled out it will not – ever – leave behind a healed wound.

proof he is wearing an ear piece…
always thought so anyway…
just sayin…

There’s no pretty way to pull an arrow out of your ribcage.

tom. I would agree that if we knew that our efforts in Iraq were a waste of time and that a more profound civil war and genocide will eventually occur, I would agree that we should pull our troops out today (yesterday).

But, the problem is; we don’t know that.

The elected leadership of Iraq seems to want us there (at least for now). And even the democratic candidates for president won’t commit to a hasty troop withdrawl, regardless of the circumstances. And that’s their position during the primary.

There is real concern that if/when we bring our troops home, we will leave a vacuum filled with even more violence than we have now.

If it was easy, it would have happened by now. We can listen to Obama, Clinton, and McCain and decide who has the best plan for the situation. And then watch and hope, whoever it is, will make the best decisions for us and the Iraqi people.

Not many here, but there seems to be a general acceptance that the surge has promoted some stability in Iraq (for whatever reason).

Wouldn’t that be a measure of success?

If the surge was intended to promote stability, is it possible that the situation is stable enough that the surge troops can redeploy?

I’m open minded enough (and skeptical enough) to understand that Bush may be spinning a need to bring troops home as success. Are you open minded enough to consider the possibility that the surge troops have done the job they were sent for and can now be brought home?

The chimp speaks. And it’s like a dog whistle only the dumb can hear or understand.

BUT, there had not been so much success that the US troops could also return home to their kid’s birthday parties. Turns out that WE were so successful, we had to stay to hold on to that success. To leave would have jeopardized those hard fought and bloody gains.

Huh? Why is success sometimes a reason to go, but also a reason to stay?

And know we hear this again. It’s yet another example of the rhetoric and twisted Alice-in-Wonderland-like logic that befuddles us all and continues to be spewed by this foul President and his administration.

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And you know this how? From first hand experience? You down here helping re-build the many lives effected by Katrina Fred?

I’m not in Iraq either but I know more about what is going on there than most Americans….sad but true.

I don’t have to see a robbery to know one has been committed. Please tell us more about how every one that was in NO has moved back into their old neighborhood and everything is getting back to normal for our American citizens who suffered the loss of everything……

Funny how your first hand information fly’s in the face of everyone else’s first hand information.

I will not rely on any one person’s word that everything is going great in NO any more than I would rely on any one person’s word that the surge is working in iraq.

Where? New Orleans, New Jersey?

If you see Tony Soprano, flip him off for me, k?