Rice Concedes She Didn’t Think Iraq ‘Would Be This Tough,’ Blames Iraqis For Continued Violence
Rice Concedes She Didn’t Think Iraq ‘Would Be This Tough,’ Blames Iraqis For Continued Violence
Speaking to a group of journalists yesterday, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice admitted that she didn’t think the war in Iraq would be as “this tough“:
Looking back on the last five years and the war in Iraq, Rice admitted: “I thought it would be tough, but I didn’t think it would be this tough.” She added, “It’s a society that’s only now beginning to emerge.”
But just like any other good Iraq war supporter, Rice deflected blame for the “long, hard slog” in Iraq away from the Bush administration and onto other pre-war factors. Rice said the United Nations sanctions killed Iraq’s agricultural sector and the “structural problem” of Saddam Hussein’s regime is dissuading Iraqis from making political progress:
– On the continuing struggle in Iraq Rice said she thought it was more of a “structural problem.” [...] The secretary warned that “authoritarian regimes are not going to create the condition for the emergence of moderate parties [in the Middle East].”
– “What we didn’t know was how truly broken the society was,” she said. Although Saddam Hussein’s regime was mostly to blame for that, she said that U.N. sanctions contributed as well, because as a result of them, “agriculture is virtually dead in Iraq.”
Apparently, the “shock and awe” bombing campaign had little responsibility for “breaking” Iraqi society. Blaming Iraqis for the continued violence in Iraq is a fairly common strategy for those who advocated for the invasion of Iraq and are now trying to distance themselves from the disaster that ensued.
War hawk and AEI fellow Danielle Pletka recently wrote in the New York Times that she “was wrong” to think that “once free,” the Iraqis “would use it well” adding that “[t]here is no freedom gene, no inner guide that understands the virtues of civil society, of secret ballots, of political parties.” Like Rice, Pletka also blamed Saddam, saying he “conditioned Iraqis to accept unearned leadership, to embrace sect and tribe over ideas, and to tolerate unbridled corruption.”
Perhaps one casualty of the Iraq war has been the conservative belief in personal responsibility.
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If you’re looking for someone to assign some blame, look in the friggin mirror.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:34 am“What we didn’t know was how truly broken the society was,” she said. Although Saddam Hussein’s regime was mostly to blame for that, she said that U.N. sanctions contributed as well, because as a result of them, “agriculture is virtually dead in Iraq.”
Wow. This reads like a child who knocks an expensive vase off a table, and then tries to explain to his parents that the vase’s faulty design is what caused it to break.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:35 amDoggone those Iraquis for not being grateful that we bombed the hell out of them, hunted down Saddam in his hidey hole, killing and injuring hundreds of thousands of innocent citizens…what is their problem, anyway? We have completely destroyed their infrastructure…What did these people expect? Of course, the fact that we should never have invaded Iraq and we were completely unprepared when we did has nothing to do with the failures.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:39 amMs. Rice, you and this administration will be saddled with the largest share of blame. For as bad as Saddam was and as hard as the UN sanctions may have hurt them it was this administration that didn’t take any of that into account. Add to that, the absence of any evidence to support any one of the trumped up charges on why we needed to invade Iraq and the responsibility is at the door of the president.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:39 amKind of reminds me that LBJ thought that all we had to do was show the flag in Vietnam and the VC would be so scared and would run all the way back to the Chinese border.
Ain’t going to happen. Natives get royally pissed off when they are bombed, invaded, and occupied by barbarians. Thus, they tend to fight back.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:40 amThe conservative “belief” in personal responsibility is a phony talking point, disproven time and again by their actions. To them Clinton deserved to be impeached, but Nixon deserved to be pardoned.
To conservatives, personal responsibility is reserved for democrats. Just like criminal charges.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:42 amPerhaps one casualty of the Iraq war has been the conservative belief in personal responsibility.
Ben, you’re too polite.
Another ideological log on the 9/11 bonfire of conservative values, is more like it.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:42 am“It’s a society that’s only now beginning to emerge.”
WTF ? ? ? ? ?
I THOUGHT SHE WAS SOME KIND OF “HISTORIAN”!!!
O GOD, IF YOU ARE REAL, YOU WILL STRIKE DOWN THESE
EVIL PERSONS. NOW!
…
…
well, see… just what i thought…
March 28th, 2008 at 11:44 am…
The Iraq war is an International crime! Iraq was attacked in two ways: By the USA/UK lead UN sactions, which were responsible for the death of hundred of thousands iraquis and by violence, when the USA illegaly invaded and occupied the country in 2003, which killed nearly one million of civilians and displaced another two. The War Criminal Rice should be behind barrs and waiting for execution for war crimes commited by the USA and its league of criminals (Coallition of the willing).
March 28th, 2008 at 11:45 amOf course the Iraqis are causing the violence. We invaded them! We bombed them! We are patrolling their streets in our Hummers. We detain them at checkpoints all over their city. We occupy their palaces with our embassy and bases! We are an invading power occupying their nation. You bet there’s violence.
This is EXACTLY what people warned of before the war. That we would not be greeted as liberators and scattered with flowers while all the Iraqis played Kumbaya, but that we would be an occupying force trying to quell an insurgency and acting as referee in a civil war while foreign terrorists streamed in from all corners to give the United States a black eye.
Can you imagine an occupying power patrolling the streets of your town? I don’t believe in this war, but you can be sure that if an Iraqi Hummer was driving up and down my street I wouldn’t be sitting on my hands.
We need to draw down the military in Iraq and ratchet up the aid so that the Iraqis can rebuild their country and reclaim their own destiny. You cannot force someone to participate in a democracy at the barrel of a gun. Outsiders cannot rebuild infrastructure while being sniped at. We should be training the Iraqis to rebuild their own infrastructure. We should be encouraging them to reconcile their nation differences. It would help if there was one less group fighting in the streets.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:45 amAnd the compliant corporate media cooperates in letting these juveniles pass this bongwater off on the public. Would it be too much trouble to, I dunno, CALL THEM ON IT???
“Sooo, Ms Rice….you don’t think that bombing the crap outta them for a lie, stealing their resources, destroying any infrastructure, causing untreated sewage to flow in the streets, wiping out their commerce, kicking-in their doors, murdering their citizenry by the millions, allowing roaming, unregulated Blackwater death squads, and turning a country into a DU radioactive waste dump might make the Iraqis a tad uncooperative with an illegal occupying force?
Ms Rice?…Would you like to continue this when you’re sober?”
March 28th, 2008 at 11:46 amGive it a rest, Condi. Go buy some shoes and leave us alone — leave the whole world alone.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:48 am“Rice Concedes She Didn’t Think Iraq ‘Would Be This Tough,’ Blames Iraqis For Continued Violence”
Maybe you should blame yourself for your own ineffectiveness, and the rest of the administration, especially your Chimp Leader Bush, for being thundering morons.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:49 amStupid, stupid, stupid beyotch.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:50 amLike Rice, Pletka also blamed BUSH, saying he “conditioned AMERICANS to accept unearned leadership, to embrace PARTY over ideas, and to tolerate unbridled corruption.”
Now that is a much truer statement.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:50 amWar hawk and AEI fellow Danielle Pletka recently wrote in the New York Times that she “was wrong” to think that “once free,” the Iraqis “would use it well” adding that “[t]here is no freedom gene, no inner guide that understands the virtues of civil society, of secret ballots, of political parties.”
Wow. WOW. That’s- wow.
I don’t know whether to characterize this as ignorant racism or arrogant imperialism or what. This is the same mentality that people used in the 18th Century to defend slavery – those West Africans didn’t understand morality and salvation, so we had to enslave them and convert them to Christianity.
I wonder if Ms. Pletka has actually met any Iraqis, or any Arabs, for that matter. Anyone who has would never even dream of imagining that they are lacking an “inner political guide.” The entire conflict in Iraq is about political parties and civil society, you thinktank meathead!
March 28th, 2008 at 11:50 am“It’s a society that’s only now beginning to emerge.”
I thought Mesopotamia was thousands of years old. Jeez, those archeologists are full of it.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:51 amSuch a bright lady…..
Had she been in power during Ghandi’s lifetime, she would have served him roast beef at the state dinner.
“who would have anticipated that someone would reject a steak?”
March 28th, 2008 at 11:52 amTo say you didn’t know this is just an evil rationalization for your malicious, greedy actions.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:53 amPletka also blamed Saddam, saying he “conditioned Iraqis to accept unearned leadership, to embrace sect and tribe over ideas, and to tolerate unbridled corruption.”
Let me fix that for you, Mr. Pletka:
Pletka also blamed George Bush, saying he “conditioned Americans to accept unearned leadership, to embrace evangelical Christianity and party over ideas, and to tolerate unbridled corruption.”
There. Much more accurate.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:55 amPerhaps one casualty of the Iraq war has been the conservative belief in personal responsibility.
Since “Personal Responsibility” is nothing more than another Sound Bite Talking Point, a tool to sway the weak minded to be stupid enough to vote for them, of course that the first thing to be tossed.
Similar to the “Family Values” actually meaning nothing to them.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:57 amWow, is she ever stupid.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:57 amAnd that is precisely why no one actually qualified to be President would ever have made you Secretary of State, Ms Rice.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:57 amHeh. That’s pretty creepy Buckie & Annie. :D
March 28th, 2008 at 11:57 amSince when is this woman relevant?
March 28th, 2008 at 11:59 amRumsfeld still needs intelligence. That’s a no-brainer!
March 28th, 2008 at 12:00 pmI think Condi’s statements would be more accurate if, instead of blaming others and saying, “We didn’t think,” she said “We didn’t listen.”
History shows there were a number of experienced, knowledgeable, and credible people, including top military officials and those inside the State Department, who tried to warn this administration of the probable difficulties and enormous size and variety of the problems that would be created during and after an invasion and regime overthrow.
Those credible people were all ignored, swept aside, even discredited, by Rumsfield, Wolfowitz, Condi, and the President in their hell-bent-for-leather desire to attack Iraq and oust Saddam.
A lot of people knew of and could accurately foretell of the problems. The administration did not listen. And here we are five years later and no end in sight.
Shut up, Condi. Don’t blame others. You were warned. You knew. You, and this administration, didn’t listen.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:01 pmIs it possible that these morons actually do not understand that when they speak, the words go out across the tubes and wires of the air waves and internets, and right into our tortured brains?
March 28th, 2008 at 12:01 pmForTruth Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
Rumsfeld still needs intelligence. That’s a no-brainer!
Pun intended, I presume?
March 28th, 2008 at 12:03 pmZooey Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Is it possible that these morons actually do not understand that when they speak, the words go out across the tubes and wires of the air waves and internets, and right into our tortured brains?
Now now – the U.S. doesn’t torture. Our brains have only been interrogated enhancedly.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:03 pmSounds to me like she’s asking for pity and/or sympathy. Bless her heart.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:05 pmI’m astounded that this lunatic will even speak about this now….She and the other bush gang-o-thieves have had a LONG time to think about this and every time they do something else WORSE happens..It’s clear they have NO CLUE what they’re doning …. but I’m beating a dead horse here…
Is she worried they won’t have any good shoe stores where she’s going?? Ooopps…too bad RUSSIA (who she has allegedly been a student of for 500 years) HATES HER TOO!! HA!
March 28th, 2008 at 12:05 pm27 How does it feel to be a true Hatriot, and a Jingo Jihadi??
March 28th, 2008 at 12:06 pmlegendinhisownmind says “Donald Rumsfeld needed intelligence”.Apparently so do you!
March 28th, 2008 at 12:06 pmTypical comment from this administration.
And it was the people of New Orleans fault that the levees failed and flooded the city.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:07 pmWhat ever happened to people being grateful?
The blacks aren’t grateful for their free passage to the Land of Opportunity™, the Iraqis aren’t grateful for all we’ve done for them…
sheesh.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:07 pmThe so called intellectuals have convinced themselves they are smarter than their predecessors.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:08 pm“Anyone’s Fault But Ours” = the new GOP motto.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:08 pmIt’s
, just ask bush
March 28th, 2008 at 12:09 pmArt Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
And it was the people of New Orleans fault that the levees failed and flooded the city.
And that they were living on such potentially-lucrative real estate.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:10 pm“It’s a society that’s only now beginning to emerge.”
Would someone take the time to inform this ’scholar’ that she is referring to MESOPOTAMIA!!!
March 28th, 2008 at 12:10 pm“shock and awe” was literally a terror campaign. That’s an uncomfortable truth.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:10 pmformat screwup at post 42….sorry.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:11 pmRe: #27
Mr Pee, back with a new moniker, who wants to join in a pool to see how soon it gets banned?
March 28th, 2008 at 12:11 pmprogressinourminds Says:
Blah blah blah stiuoidd pro’s!!! Blah blah blah!
(ralph pats troll on his little head, fetches him a glass of water and guides him toward his airplane bed)
That’s wonderful. Isn’t he a funny li’l feller? But you’re supposed to be napping now.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:11 pmDr. Rice, welcome to the reality based community.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:12 pmstewarjt Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Dr. Rice, welcome to the reality based community.
I think you’re being a bit premature here…
March 28th, 2008 at 12:14 pmhussein toasterhead Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Now now – the U.S. doesn’t torture. Our brains have only been interrogated enhancedly.
Heh, yeah, kinda like electrodes clamped to the testicles are only intended to stimulate muscle activity.
Being stuck in a cell 24/7, prisoners need some form of exercise.
8/
March 28th, 2008 at 12:14 pmDonald Rumsfeld needed intelligence and he made the right decision in doing so -PIOM
No, YOU think he made the right decision. I think he made a bad decision with his ’shock and awe’ technology will prevail thinking.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:14 pmhussein toasterhead Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Now now – the U.S. doesn’t torture. Our brains have only been interrogated enhancedly.
But, but, but…..
Help! Help! I’m being repressed!
March 28th, 2008 at 12:16 pmRUCerious Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
Re: #27
Mr Pee, back with a new moniker, who wants to join in a pool to see how soon it gets banned?
As lame as Pee is, he always made sure his spelling and grammar were acceptable. :D
March 28th, 2008 at 12:18 pmRice is a War Criminal through and through.
She’ll have all the gals after her when she’s in her orange jumpsuit.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:19 pmshock and awe…..15 minutes. country with 90% of worlds military might defeats a country with .01% of worlds military might.
Next…..4 years of boots on the ground which was never mentioned yet inevitable.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:19 pmZ #55, Yeah, so who’s the new masked troll with the daily name change?
March 28th, 2008 at 12:23 pmWhat did she expect, a cake walk when you unvade a country that does not want or need Neocon democratic values(dogma).
March 28th, 2008 at 12:32 pmPut aside whether the info. was good, bad, made up or any other angle about going into Iraq. This administration failed to prepare, plan and guide after destroying a 3rd world military. They failed the Iraqis by leaving a vaccum. They failed by not trying to understand the people they were now going to give democracy to. They failed the military by not giving a clear objective after the initial conflict. They failed by not providing the proper equipment and the proper logistical support.
They failed the american people by ignoring all of the above failures while pushing the idea of fear.
Ms. Rice has no idea how tough history will be to this administration. But tough it will be.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:32 pmRUCerious Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Z #55, Yeah, so who’s the new masked troll with the daily name change?
Don’t care. ;)
March 28th, 2008 at 12:40 pmStupid Iraq…and it’s stupid innocent citizens. Why do innocent dying Iraq children always make it ‘hard work’ for Master McBush?
March 28th, 2008 at 12:46 pmfrom the article link:
“What we didn’t know was how truly broken the society was,” she said.
Although Saddam Hussein’s regime was mostly to blame for that, she said that U.N. sanctions contributed as well, because as a result of them, “agriculture is virtually dead in Iraq.”
“As necessary as they might have been to try to put pressure on the regime, they also did a lot of damage,” Miss Rice said of the sanctions.
________
Although it’s somewhat refreshing that Rice concedes how damaging the sanctions were – weren’t those sanctions imposed on Iraq due to the urging of the U.S. (and the U.K.)?
Here’s a quote from an article that asserts that those sanctions were, in fact, illegal (under the Geneva Protocol) (#24 in particular):
23. From the inception of the blockade/sanctions regime, all goods intended for Iraq have without exception been required to win the approval of the UN sanctions committee established for that purpose by SCR 661. The committee has fifteen members, including the five permanent members of the Security Council. The meetings of the Sanctions Committee are held in closed session. Decisions cannot be appealed and Iraq is allowed no voice in the proceedings. Any single member of the committee can block an application or delay it indefinitely by asking for further details. Accordingly, de facto, every individual committee member has a veto and can place on hold any particular application for export to Iraq.
24. It is clear that that veto has been used extensively by the US representative in particular to cause long delays and cancellations of shipments. To give just two examples, on 7 September 1990 (before food was fully exempted), the US representative vetoed a request by Bulgaria for permission to ship baby food to Iraq on the grounds that the food might be consumed by adults (5). In 1997, the US representative blocked forty contracts for food and essential medical supplies required for humanitarian purposes, including twenty contracts from the World Health Organisation priority list (6).
http://www.zmag.org/CrisesCurEvts/Iraq/sanctions.htm
March 28th, 2008 at 12:47 pmThis statement, coming from the same person who, as “National Security Advisor,” never anticipated that terrorists might drive planes into buildings,” should not surprise anyone.
What’s next? Who could have predicted that fire is hot? Who could have anticipated that ice is cold?
How clueless do you have to be to get fired from the Bush administration? Do ask the president, he doesn’t have a clue.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:50 pmSpeaking to a group of journalists yesterday, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice admitted that she didn’t think the war in Iraq would be as “this tough“:
Looking back on the last five years and the war in Iraq, Rice admitted: “I thought it would be tough, but I didn’t think it would be this tough.” She added, “It’s a society that’s only now beginning to emerge.”
You of course , being such a military expert and all , Condiliesalot………
March 28th, 2008 at 12:53 pmHow did this fool earn a PHD ? Nope…she got it in a cracker jack box. The worst, the worst, an embarassment to the USA.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:58 pmBut she does know what shoes will go with her orange jumpsuit.
March 28th, 2008 at 1:02 pmErmmmmm… Republican personnal resposability, anyone?
March 28th, 2008 at 1:02 pmRice is lying again. she had the best advisor’s in the world. they only listened to the ones that said what she wanted to hear because they were going to war, for the oil, no matter what.
“It just sticks in my craw every time I hear them say it’s an intelligence failure. It’s an intelligence failure. This was a policy failure,” Drumheller tells Bradley.
Drumheller was the CIA’s top man in Europe, the head of covert operations there, until he retired a year ago. He says he saw firsthand how the White House promoted intelligence it liked and ignored intelligence it didn’t:
“The idea of going after Iraq was U.S. policy. It was going to happen one way or the other,” says Drumheller.
Drumheller says he doesn’t think it mattered very much to the administration what the intelligence community had to say. “I think it mattered it if verified. This basic belief that had taken hold in the U.S. government that now is the time, we had the means, all we needed was the will,” he says.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/04/21/60minutes/main1527749.shtml
March 28th, 2008 at 1:09 pmtombaker Says:
“Anyone’s Fault But Ours” = the new GOP motto.
It’s ALWAYS been Clinton’s fault – remember?
March 28th, 2008 at 1:15 pm“Rice said she thought it was more of a “structural problem.”
Is this something like the “birth defect” you were talking about with regards to the race issue, Condi?
March 28th, 2008 at 1:18 pmFrom the Middle East Times article:
Could she really not realize that she’s describing the Bushies here?
March 28th, 2008 at 1:19 pm73 – Could she really not realize that she’s describing the Bushies here?
“Dr” Rice is too stupid to realize anything. This is an idiot who condemns Hamas’s right to resistance but endorses Israel’s right to occupy.
March 28th, 2008 at 1:30 pmregular_joe Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
How clueless do you have to be to get fired from the Bush administration? Do ask the president, he doesn’t have a clue.
Actually, you have to be clueful to get fired from this administration. Just ask Admiral Fallon.
March 28th, 2008 at 1:31 pmprogressinourminds Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 11:59 am
All of you are a bunch of racist pigs!If the evidence is strong that this administration has committed all these war crimes why are they still in power? Why hasn’t the Dems stepped in and pulled out the troops? Donald Rumsfeld needed intelligence and he made the right decision in doing so. That’s how war works its an ugly thing!
Any English grammar tutors out there? History teachers? How about current event buffs?
No? Sorry, guess you’re out of luck.
March 28th, 2008 at 1:33 pmAny English grammar tutors out there? History teachers? How about current event buffs?
His best hope is with a lobotomist.
March 28th, 2008 at 1:36 pmcaption:
“Cough… cough….
March 28th, 2008 at 1:38 pmI hope I’m not coming down with Blackwater flu…”
Convenient but this is not war. This is naked, unjustified agression.
March 28th, 2008 at 1:39 pmprogressinourminds Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Yall we’re right this whole time. I just watched the PBS film “Bushes War” I am now moving to Canada!! Later, good luck with everything! I will never doubt a pro again!
Don’t flatter yourself. Canada doesn’t want your sorry ass any more than we do.
March 28th, 2008 at 1:40 pmKay Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
But she does know what shoes will go with her orange jumpsuit.
I’ll bet she’s hoping it’s Chimpy……..
March 28th, 2008 at 1:45 pmI was at work and the guy behind me, National Guard weekend warrior, says he has been to Iraq was commenting on the experience. He seemed surprised that when he was there that you couldn’t drink the water and that there was garbage, sewage and dead bodies floating down the river.
I turned around a looked at him and gently reminded him that there was a war going on and that these conditions didn’t just happen in a vaccuum. At that point I turned back around and just shut up because I didn’t want to end up calling him a fool or some other such nonsense.
I coulnd’t believe I heard that crap coming out of his mouth.
March 28th, 2008 at 1:50 pmOn the continuing struggle in Iraq Rice said she thought it was more of a “structural problem.”
Well that’s because the structures are being bombed flat.
March 28th, 2008 at 1:55 pmSorry Condi, the Iraqi society has existed far longer than you might be aware of. In fact they have a beautiful history a few thousands of years of existence.
March 28th, 2008 at 2:02 pmAnd when you speak of authorian regimes, just look at the authorian regime of which you are such a big part of.
And don’t lay blame on others that can’t defend themselves because of your own incompetences.
Do us all a favor and shut up!
Rice: “It’s a society that’s only now beginning to emerge.”
Ummm, it’as actually the cradle of civilization, but don’t let historical facts stop you.
March 28th, 2008 at 2:07 pmReally, what they all missed from day one was that Iraq was a made-up country from the start. Created by treaty after World War I when Britain and France took their booty from the defeat of the Ottoman Empire. Iraq was an arrangement the British thought “convenient” for administrative purposes. Bad bet and all that. Three groups with blood hatred for one another placed into a “nation.” A strongman had always been necessary to keep Iraq together. Saddam Hussein wasn’t the first and wouldn’t have been the last. Crack that egg and all sorts of stuff would come rolling out. Like opening Pandora’s Box.
The damn fools still don’t get it.
March 28th, 2008 at 2:11 pmThe neocons have discovered why they have not had “victory” in Iraq. The Iraqis do not have the “freedom gene”. Who could have known? It certainly wasn’t Condi and her husband’s fault that Baghdad doesn’t look like a Young Republicans meeting by now!
March 28th, 2008 at 2:13 pmThe radical and extremist war criminal Rice should be hanged for crimes against humanity!
March 28th, 2008 at 2:22 pmAt the risk of upsetting some here, I agree with Dr. Rice.
After all, when I drove my car off that cliff, no one could have foreseen that it would crash at the bottom. When it did, naturally the blame belonged to the faulty design of the car and the unusual hardness of rocks below. As for the passengers that were killed in the accident, it is clear it was their fault for deciding to ride along with me, a fact for which they must accept full, personal responsibility, were they still alive.
March 28th, 2008 at 2:26 pmCondi then proceeded to blame rape victims for being women and abused children for being children. Now she’s ready to run for VP. You go girl.
March 28th, 2008 at 2:51 pmmjshep:
March 28th, 2008 at 3:11 pmAll the passengers were volunteers too, weren’t they?
mjshep Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Don’t worry. They’ll keep driving more cars off that particular cliff, because they don’t want to embolden gravity by admitting defeat.
March 28th, 2008 at 3:47 pmShe’s soooo Condiscending.
March 28th, 2008 at 4:08 pmA misguided idea, a poor plan, mismanaged throughout — what did she expect? Chocolates and flowers? She won’t even get that from Cheney!
March 28th, 2008 at 4:51 pmIt’s tougher than she thought — she never thought!!
She still can’t accept responsibility — it’s Saddams’ fault!
wah, wah, wah!
She makes me sick.
.
What CONdi Rice meant was:
March 28th, 2008 at 4:59 pm“How dare you SOB’s complain about this liberation we gave you. You can’t even keep it together.”
“I regret that the Iraqi people were so thoroughly incapable of living up to my expectations of them.”
“I regret that my brillian ideas were so imperfectly executed by my intellectual inferiors.”
“I regret the occurrence of events which no one could have foreseen, and for which no one is to blame.”—–Tom Tomorrow
March 28th, 2008 at 6:59 pmWho could have anticipated? (images)
http://www.light-to-dark.com/unanticipated.html
And she’s V.P. caliber? We still don’t know about her involvement in the Brewster Jennings/Plame outing.
That,and she is a consummate liar, a zero product diplomat, and corporate operative. Her associates should be brought up on charges of treason. Does she not understand that we out here in reality have memories?
http://www.light-to-dark.com/fleet.html
Dr. Rice is damaged goods and would be a lead weight around McBush’s neck.
March 28th, 2008 at 7:51 pmSo we send in armed soldiers with the most up to date munitions; we invade; we topple their government; we put in our puppet government; we destroy their infrastructure; we destroy their utilities; we destroy their businesses so that they can’t get jobs.
But they are responsible for the aftermath ?
March 28th, 2008 at 9:20 pmThe neocons believed their own BS. They never faced up to the fact that they were invading and occupying, and inevitably facing an insurgent war. They actually believed they were going to war in a WWII way, with some treaty-signing ceremony at the end.
Occupations don’t end like that.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:07 pm>The damn fools still don’t get it.
Nope they dont… anything that can’t be boiled down to a catchy one sentence slogan is lost on Bush and his followers..now something nice and simple, like “the iraqis want freedom”…now THAT makes sense to them..
March 29th, 2008 at 1:09 amI was at work and the guy behind me, National Guard weekend warrior, says he has been to Iraq was commenting on the experience. He seemed surprised that when he was there that you couldn’t drink the water and that there was garbage, sewage and dead bodies floating down the river.
I turned around a looked at him and gently reminded him that there was a war going on and that these conditions didn’t just happen in a vaccuum. At that point dell inspiron 9300 battery,dell inspiron 9400 battery I turned back around and just shut up because I didn’t want to end up calling him a fool or some other such nonsense.
October 15th, 2008 at 4:50 am