Right wing rejoices over ThinkProgress’ mistake.
Right wing rejoices over ThinkProgress’ mistake.
The right wing has been jubilantly celebrating the fact that ThinkProgress made an error in claiming John McCain had plagiarized a speech by Adm. Timothy Ziemer. Drudge, Weekly Standard, National Review, and Instapundit have all referenced our mistake. On its “political grapevine” segment this evening, Fox News reported our error as well. Fox host Bret Baier said, “The left-wing blog ThinkProgress has had to eat its words.” Watch it:
The actions we took in the wake of our mistake demonstrate this site’s commitment to maintaining credibility and transparency. Unlike many of our critics, we took responsibility for our actions once we realized that it was Ziemer who had plagiarized McCain. We immediately issued a correction, apologized for our error, and expressed our regret to the McCain campaign.
At the end of the segment, Fox News referenced this website as “ThinkProgress.com” in an on-screen chyron. Note to Fox: we’re actually ThinkProgress.org. It’s ok — we all make mistakes.
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“Good” news is so hard to come by for FoxSnooze these days so it’s no surprise that they jumped on this.
Of course, if they were inclined to own up to their mistakes, the “Daily Retraction Show” would take up an hour of programming time or more.
No fear of that, though. FoxSnooze has no commitment to maintaining its credibility or transparency. Its credibility is zero and its agenda already is transparent.
March 28th, 2008 at 7:07 pm.
I’m sure O’LIEly will need to shower with his loofah AGAIN!
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March 28th, 2008 at 7:07 pmHow about the newly publicized Anthrax attack “breakthrough” regarding the 2001 Anthrax attacks? Funny how we have this right when the repukes are on their way out. Don’t want the appearance of impropriety.
March 28th, 2008 at 7:08 pmDid Fox do the .com instead of .org on purpose to limit all the hits they would generate for TP?
March 28th, 2008 at 7:09 pmI cant even begin to count the amount of times FOX and the rest of the irrelevant class were wrong and still wrong.
March 28th, 2008 at 7:10 pmDoes anyone want to even try and count the amount of times that Faux has been wrong?
Thought not.
March 28th, 2008 at 7:13 pmFOX Slews and their parasitic parrots still refuses to admit that Obamas Church was Christian, not Muslim.
Will they eat those words? Naw, they have no integrity or morals and wont admit to being wrong.
March 28th, 2008 at 7:13 pmYep, I saw it — they were gloating. They have so little to praise in and among themselves, so when the opposition errs, it’s cause to shout it from the mountaintops. Even though the opposition corrected their error within hours! (Something they are loathe to do themselves on their many occasions of error.)
March 28th, 2008 at 7:13 pmThis is actually great news for ThinkProgress.org. FOX and the other right-wing outlets are merely confirming the fact that ThinkProgress has become an important generator and disseminator of news! The more people who watch this site for story ideas the better.
March 28th, 2008 at 7:14 pmTP simply misspoke, and we all know that when you simply misspeak there are no words to eat.
As Rove says ‘Nice Try’
March 28th, 2008 at 7:15 pmYou must be pretty damn good if they worry about what you do…. Take it as a complement! of the first kind….
Your immediate response to correct….shows me you can be trusted…Can we say the same for them???
Keep up the good work….
March 28th, 2008 at 7:17 pm.
#9 fletc3her Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Yep, PRAVDANEWS just confirmed that TP is a credible source of news.
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March 28th, 2008 at 7:18 pmAnd how many US military lives did this mistake cost? How many people were killed by Clinton having sex with an intern?
March 28th, 2008 at 7:19 pmThis is a sign of success for TP.
March 28th, 2008 at 7:20 pmFux Snooze’s version of correcting the blatant lies and mistakes that they spew is to simply “delete” any reference to them from their website and transcripts.
I’m still blown away from O’Lielly’s Malmady nonsense!
March 28th, 2008 at 7:21 pmStavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Ha ha ha!
That’s what happens. FoxSnooze keeps doing the propaganda technique and it blows up in their face! FoxSnooze just broadcasts lots of lies and then repeats them over and over to their cult followers as if they were true!
There you go. I fixed it for you, pant-load.
March 28th, 2008 at 7:23 pmwell, you’ve hit the big time, TP… woo hoo!
get ready for a trooll fest now…
that “.com” gaff will hold ‘em off for a bit though… ah hahaha!
March 28th, 2008 at 7:26 pm.
Keep up the good work TP. Accept your responsibility when you commit mistakes, unlike the cowards that just deny they ever said what they said.
Stavrakios Says: blah blah blah Care to back up what you’re claiming?
March 28th, 2008 at 7:27 pmYes wingnuts! TP making a mistake means the surge is working!!
Look!! the dollar is now worth 5 Euros, and gas is a buck and a half a gallon!!
Hurrah the winguts are victorious!
Now go outside and wait for the mailman – he’ll be bringing your victory cookies right over.
March 28th, 2008 at 7:29 pmbut…but….what do the Moonies over at the Washington Times have to say about it!?
March 28th, 2008 at 7:30 pmmight i suggest not feeding them…
correct the inevitable mistakes, but, let ‘em blow…
and, please please please! don’t copy the garbage… please…
March 28th, 2008 at 7:31 pmStavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Ha ha ha!
That’s what happens TP keep doing the Propaganda technique and it blows up in your face! TP just posts lots of lies and then emails it to it’s cult follower as Talking Points!
Since when has Think Progress ever e-mailed any of its followers ? Much less “propoganda” , you GOP stooge ?
You’re hopeless…………
March 28th, 2008 at 7:33 pmStavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Uosdwis,
How many dead Serbians were killed by Clinton?
Hint 20,000!
I know you are an idiot Stavrakios, but tell us: How do you kill an already dead Serbian? Your grammar is lousy, your points are lousy, your IQ is sub-negative, your patriotism sucks, your worship of Bushco tells the planet all they need to know about you: Chickenhawk puke. If you call yourself an American – please stop doing so. You are being disrespectful to my country.
March 28th, 2008 at 7:35 pmOoooooooooooooooooooo Think Progressssssss!
Whataburn! Whataburn!
March 28th, 2008 at 7:35 pmYou get cookies too Mongo, but only if you get out there to watch for the mailman!!
March 28th, 2008 at 7:37 pmThey’re really scraping the bottom of the troll barrel these days.
Great job TP. Perhaps you should make a few of these mistakes every week if you’re going to get all that free press.
March 28th, 2008 at 7:38 pmThis is a lie that you can’t prove. You can’t just lie here you are not in church.
March 28th, 2008 at 7:38 pmStill don’t give a rat’s ass Gin – about this, or drudge, or your opinion of anything.
March 28th, 2008 at 7:38 pmStavrakios? We have a Greek troll? Must be Mr. P and CT, cough.
March 28th, 2008 at 7:40 pmTP could screw up their next 6 months worth of posts, and still not be half as wrong as the typical Righty is in one day. I truly fail to see the significance of any of it.
I do understand you Righties have had a real tough time of it for a long time though, so I’m not really surpised at the eruption of misplaced juvenile glee over this opportunity to “turn the tables”.
Maybe you guys should make up some MoveOn flags and Kos effigies and go burn them in the street while chanting “death to moonbats” or somesuch. It would really fit in nicely with your worldview and preferred methodology.
March 28th, 2008 at 7:43 pmFox News reported, repeatedly, that former Democratic consultant and current CNN talking head Paul Begala was going to join the Hillary Clinton campaign.
Corrections?
March 28th, 2008 at 7:45 pmDrudge falsely claimed Soros funds Media Matters
Corrections?
March 28th, 2008 at 7:48 pmOhh, TP.
Maybe if you just had illegally invaded a sovereign country, the right wing would be cheering you.
March 28th, 2008 at 7:48 pmDr. Hussein Matt Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
When will herr dubyah apologize to America for his failures?
The Hague in 2009 ……………..
March 28th, 2008 at 7:52 pmThis is how much you threaten these people. The slightest mistake (for which you quickly issued a correction) and they must trumpet it to the skies.
March 28th, 2008 at 7:52 pmStavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
This website is pure propaganda.By the way I hate Bush more than you so called Progressives. He’s a Saudi Stooge. I was for McCain in 2000 not Bush and I haven’t voted in a General Election since ‘96, for Perot. I’m an Independent Rightwinger, not a Corporate/Globalist/Free Trade Conservative. I detest them even more than you Progressives. On Economics I’m actually a Protectionist and believe in Universal Healthcare and a Minimun Wage adjusted to Inflation. I favor Nationalizing our resources and prosecuting Blackwater and Halliburton for war profiteering.
So you’re little labels don’t fit me.
Sure it does ; I figured you for a jerkoff.
And I’m 100% correct ………..
March 28th, 2008 at 7:54 pmThis website is pure propaganda -Stavrakios
If that were so they wouldnt have apologised for or corrected the error but used a FOX news tactic and simply ignored making any corrections
March 28th, 2008 at 7:59 pmhow funny. when the right wing blogs do nothing but make calculative errors ten times a day. jesus…
check out this interview i found of Helen Caldicot about making
Nuclear Power/waste/warfare a thing of the past.
slinky
March 28th, 2008 at 8:01 pmThey’re really scraping the bottom of the troll barrel these days.
The troll supply on the open market has dwindled significantly in the past week. Limpballs has hired the semi-comatose ones (the highest possible ranking on the troll cognitive ability scale) to work on Operation Chaos.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:03 pmWow — we made the “big time”?
Actually, I think that what Fox News found newsworthy was the apology for disseminating incorrect information. This is such a foreign concept to them that, to them, it was probably an earth-shattering, hard-to-wrap-the-mind-around event.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:03 pmStavrakios is one of those Greek Cypriot Anarcho-Syndicalists that were once popular in the political thriller literary genre (though they were usually protrayed as terrorists). Congratulations on that – very “retro”.
If, in fact, “the right wing” is so jubilant, it can only demonstrate how very easily amused they are, and how relieved they are not to be on the receiving end of this particular embarrassing item. Those righties do commit more than their fair share of plagiarism though – just look at that poor coulter woman.
Propaganda flows from the seat of power to the public – not from “some blog on the internet to the seat of power”.
If you believe Think Progress is a threat to the common good for disseminating bad information you’re one real paranoid mofo.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:05 pmStavrakios Says
You have already been caught in one lie…..why keep it up?
March 28th, 2008 at 8:05 pmStavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
MCMetal,
Nope Try Bush here. Not in some Globalist court. He’s done their bidding. He’s betrayed America. I could care less about the rest of the world. America 1st!
Stavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
This website is pure propaganda
Stavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Uosdwis,
How many dead Serbians were killed by Clinton?
Hint 20,000!
Stavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Ha ha ha!
That’s what happens TP keep doing the Propaganda technique and it blows up in your face! TP just posts lots of lies and then emails it to it’s cult follower as Talking Points!
Yeah , I can tell by your scintillating and insightful comments above that you’re being truthful ………
March 28th, 2008 at 8:08 pmXisithrus,
This website is Propaganda. It’s anti-American, Pro-Globalist and Pro-Islamic.
Thats YOUR opinion, it is not a truth. People here are fighting for the bill of rights and the fourth amendment thats hardly un-American. As for pro-islamic, wasnt it Bush that wanted to FREE the Islamics in Iraq?
March 28th, 2008 at 8:09 pmStavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Xisithrus,
This website is Propaganda. It’s anti-American, Pro-Globalist and Pro-Islamic. The Hadith post is Pro-Islamic propaganda. Haditha was an Islamic hoax. The difference between you Progressives and the Bushbots, is that you guys are Leftwing Globalist, and they’re Corporate Globalists. Either way I’m an American Nationalists and care only about the well being of my country and all it’s citizens, residents and Undocumented Immigrants who live here. We should focus on home and tell the world to take a hike.
America 1st!
What the hell is a “Leftwing Globalist” ?
March 28th, 2008 at 8:10 pmFluoridation is a Communist plot!!!!
March 28th, 2008 at 8:11 pmtombaker Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
“If, in fact, “the right wing” is so jubilant, it can only demonstrate how very easily amused they are…”
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It also demonstrates how very rare it is that we’re wrong. If we were wrong as often as — oh, say, Bill Kristol? Bill O’Reilly? Fox News in general? John McCain? …it would hardly be newsworthy.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:11 pmWell, be fair TP. After a long string of failures by idiot right wing television, radio and blogs, it was your turn.
That’s one…
March 28th, 2008 at 8:12 pmStavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
Read my posts. I’m a Protectionist and Isolationist.
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And I’m sure you’ve read up on the late U.S.S.R. See how isolationism worked out for them.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:12 pmXisithrus,’Read my post, I HATE BUSH! He’s a Globalist Corporate Traitor. He should be impeached and dealt with as traitors should. Read my posts. I’m a Protectionist and Isolationist.
I read your post and did NOT accuse you of anything, did I?
March 28th, 2008 at 8:13 pmStavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
MCMetal,
“What the hell is a “Leftwing Globalist”
Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.
Hillary and Obama are about as “Leftwing” as you are intelligent ………Which is to say , not at all.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:13 pmBroccoli Begets Bolshevism!!
March 28th, 2008 at 8:13 pmStavrakios
March 28th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
Hi, Mr Pee.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:14 pmThe picture looks like it says, “ThinkProgress.Cum.” AT least on my monitor anyway.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:15 pmStavarkios is Sacco and Vanzetti’s other cousin.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:15 pmIf they did the .com thing vs the .org thing on purpose, once you type in .com, you are redirected to .org, so I think their mission was unaccomplished.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:17 pmIf your trying to view globalisation thru left and right political ideologies, I think that would be a mistake as its really Capitalist driven, which as we know funds both parties.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:21 pmIt’ those damned “zionists” we’re always hearing so much about, isn’t it, Stav?
March 28th, 2008 at 8:21 pmThe posts here are by Americans at large, including yourself. By your reasoning….you are a propagandist…..I agree.
You say you are progressive but you accuse many of much….
being propagandists, being Anti-American, being pro-Islamist(what the f does that even mean?).
You say Haditha was a hoax…..my, I guess you are just like the bush gang who keep telling us they know things we don’t know…how about some legitimate investigations and some justice for a change instead of you just telling us how it is?
Which is one of the scariest things you can be as far as I am concerned. That was the mentality of the Soviets and the Nazi’s
March 28th, 2008 at 8:23 pmme thinks someone doth protesteth waaay too much! ha!
much too “concerned” too!
and talk about bouncing off the walls! wooo!
hitting some of the right notes though… entertaining…
March 28th, 2008 at 8:24 pm.
74 – So.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:25 pmoh – anyone know where keith is tonight?
March 28th, 2008 at 8:25 pmi don’t even know who keith is tonight.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:26 pmStavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
tombaker,
I’m Pro-Israel!
My condolences…………
March 28th, 2008 at 8:27 pmFred Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
Stavrakios Says
You have already been caught in one lie…..why keep it up?
Silly Fred… that’s how a career as a right-wing stink tanker is built.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:27 pmkaty – u mean our keith h. that posts? have not seen him.
sorry – didn’t mean to snark ya back there – more making fun of myself there for a sec.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:29 pmCan anyone explain to me what is so evil about Gerge Soros?
I musta missed it.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:31 pm70 – Stav – I guess you’d have to ask the people who voted in the primaries. I like Edwards, too. I like all the D’s way better than any of the R’s even though none of them are ever going to do anything much to impress me. I just don’t want things perpetually run into the ditch, which is all that ever happens when R’s get behind the wheel.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:31 pmRalph – Didn’t you know he arrogantly survived the Holocaust, and then earned a lot of money himself, rather than inheriting it!?
March 28th, 2008 at 8:32 pmGin Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
Xisithrus Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
Drudge falsely claimed Soros funds Media Matters
Corrections?
Soros funds OSI which in turn funds Tydes Foundation which has funded Media Matters, so you’re right Soros doesn’t directly fund them.
However Soros does fund the Center for American Progress which of course funds this little website.
But George isn’t all bad, he also put 100 million into the Carlyle Group with the Bush and Bin Laden family.
Carlyle was founded in 1987 by Stephen L. Norris, and David M. Rubenstein They later hired Dan D’Aniello, William Conway and Greg Rosenbaum. Rosenbaum left in 1987; Norris left in 1995. The three remaining founders are reported to collectively own around a 50% interest in the group’s general partnership. The California Public Employees Retirement System (or CalPERS) is the only US institution which owns a stake in the partnership, holding 5.5% of Carlyle for which it paid $175 million in 2001. In 2007 Mubadala Development, an investment vehicle for the Government of Abu Dhabi, purchased a 7.5% stake for $1.35 billion..
As they wanted the firm to outlive them, Norris and Rubenstein named the firm after the Upper East Side area hotel in New York City, the Carlyle Hotel, where they first met to discuss the idea. Carlyle’s current chairman is Lou Gerstner, former chairman and CEO of IBM and Nabisco.
Carlyle has only allowed two outsiders to buy into its partnership. The first is the California Public Employees’ Retirement System (CalPERS), who “own a 5.5% stake in the company that is estimated to be worth about $1 billion.” The second is Mubadala Development Company – “an investment group owned by the government of Abu Dhabi, which is part of the United Arab Emirates.” In September of 2007, they bought a “7.5 percent share of [Carlyle's] general partnership for $1.35 billion.”
Do you enjoy making up completely unsubstantiated stupid shit ?
March 28th, 2008 at 8:33 pmas for soros – if it’s true, it’s about goddamn time the wealthy people –
and doesn’t it seem it is the ones who have to WORK for it – to step up
and make a healthy monetary investment toward TRUTH , JUSTICE ,
AND THE AMERICAN WAY .
good on ‘em!
March 28th, 2008 at 8:34 pmWell, TP, you asked for it. I predicted this would happen. But I never did get answers to my other questions, about the rush to print. Did Tp think they would get scooped? Is that why you guys couldn’t bother to check with the McCain campaign first? Did you think McCain would had it off to one of his fanboys in the media?
March 28th, 2008 at 8:35 pmStavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
MCMetal,
Better that being Pro-Muslim! Israel is a dagger at the throat of Islam. For that I support them.
Because Judaism and/or Christianity aren’t just as idiotic ?
I’m sure the Jews will be positively relieved that a feeble-minded dope like yourself supports them………..
March 28th, 2008 at 8:35 pm87 – well, good luck on that whole thing. i’d advise not getting your hopes way up there though.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:36 pmtombaker – keith olberman… he is not on countdown tonight…
March 28th, 2008 at 8:36 pmwondered why…
But George isn’t all bad, he also put 100 million into the Carlyle Group with the Bush and Bin Laden family. -=Gin=-
Yes, I knew that…it was however a buyout fund he chipped into.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:37 pmPeople, you’re missing the point.
ThinkProgress makes mistakes. Honest, simple mistakes. And then they apologize and take responsibility for them.
Fox News and their masters the Bush Administration tell lies. Big, bold, blatant lies. They don’t apologize or take responsibility for them, because the kind of lies they tell are often felonies.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:37 pmPlease. In the course of their daily misrepresentations, disingenuous statements and bold-faced lies, these a-holes make plenty of “mistakes” all of the time.
-AF
Andrew Sullivan Is A Fraud
March 28th, 2008 at 8:39 pmwell if i was that keith i’d be somewhere awesome with my 24-year-old girlfriend
March 28th, 2008 at 8:41 pmYeah, you guys got to have your boogie man…..commies not a problem anymore…..we killed em all ya know….now it’s someone else’s turn to be the hated enemy against which we will throw our young people’s lives and our money.
I hope you nuts are able to stop them before they swim across the Atlantic and come ashore in Miami.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:42 pmBetter that being Pro-Muslim! Israel is a dagger at the throat of Islam. For that I support them.-=Stav=-
They are all abrahamic religions stav. If you go back and look at what happened in religious history its basically a family [tribal] battle that started well before America came into being. I know my GOD and Im not getting involved in that thwo thousand year old squabble that never ends.
I am not anti-religion, just tired of the religious infighting.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:43 pmStav,\
In linguistics and ethnology, Semitic (from the Biblical “Shem”, Hebrew: ??, translated as “name”, Arabic: ?????) was first used to refer to a language family of largely Middle Eastern origin, now called the Semitic languages. This family includes the ancient and modern forms of Amharic, Arabic, Aramaic, Akkadian, Ge’ez, Hebrew, Phoenician, Maltese, Tigre and Tigrinya among others.
As language studies are interwoven with cultural studies, the term also came to describe the extended cultures and ethnicities, as well as the history of these varied peoples as associated by close geographic and linguistic distribution. The late 19th century term “anti-Semitism” refers specifically to hostility toward Jews, further complicating the understood meaning and boundaries of the term.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:45 pmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic
Stav – it’s been Lefties getting beaten by cops at WTO meetings. Is the Battle of Seattle already forgotten?
March 28th, 2008 at 8:46 pmHey it’s good to see we can disagree respectfully. I also notice some here aren’t that far off from my anti-Globalist viewpoint. It shows that the Patriotic Right and Patriotic Left can cooperate if we look at the big picture. -Stav
I agree, but you have to admit you came in swinging pretty hard =)
March 28th, 2008 at 8:46 pm104 – again I say, “So.” Do you even have a point, or are you just a gossipy, parsimonious old hen out to sow ill will however you can?
March 28th, 2008 at 8:47 pmYeah, the Israelie’s are such peace loving easy to get along with people and all….real nice friends you got there. You talk about masters and you are owned by Israel…they brag about owning America and the fact that we do their bidding.
The worst part is that you probably claim to be a christain and the Israelie’s don’t even think you are human. They don’t think you will even be allowed into heaven.
Who’s the slave to a demon master?
March 28th, 2008 at 8:48 pmDrudge, Weekly Standard, National Review, and Instapundit have all referenced our mistake. On its “political grapevine” segment this evening, Fox News reported our error as well.
who cares what any of those scabs thinks, says, or does. they comprise the worst, vile vermin possible to inhabit human skin.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:50 pm.
I understand trade and the need for capitalism to create jobs for people, what I dont agree with is this radical capitalism that puts money before everything else. If their is ever a global order it should come about naturally and not thru wars or unfair trading practices and outsourcing of jobs that undermine our society.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:50 pmtombaker at 8:41 pm
well if i was that keith i’d be somewhere awesome with my 24-year-old girlfriend
oh no! say it ain’t so! … he didn’t fall for THAT one, did he?
damn, keith… i mean, i understand, but that’s just too easy… gawd…
you men… it’s too bad you get two heads… must be confusing…
…
i’m joking… … kidding on the square… if you will…
March 28th, 2008 at 8:52 pm.
Xisithrus,
I aplogize if I came off wrong.
No problem Stav and no apology needed.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:52 pmOthers here can tolerate it if they want but I find that the only use for a republican is as the minority obstructionist.
History shows that if they become more than that we will have problems. They want you to think they are good managers but facts prove them wrong.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:54 pmPundits tend to paint people into groups and demonise them as a whole, its rather unfortunate that many people take their words as truth. Ironically the pundits think they are helping to save America when in fact they are doing more harm than good by creating partisanship based on nothing more than personal bias thats really not grounded in reality at all.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:55 pmStavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
MCMetal,
Betetr the Jews than the Muslims and their Saudi masters.
You believe the Saudis have any influence whatsoever on Turkish Muslims ?
And what makes Jews “Better” than anyone or at anything ?
They are all the same pieces of shit we all are ; that whole “God’s chosen people” is a myth on a par with Ronnie Retard’s GOP-concocted ‘terrific’ presidency.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:57 pmAnti Israelie is not anti-semite. You know this and still beat the war drum. You are nothing but a hate filled war monger.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:58 pmI also thing that we should have tariffs to even the playing field with foreign competitors.
Well, thats basically what NAFTA and CAFTA did was to remove tariffs. Heres some facts http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Free_Trade_Agreement
March 28th, 2008 at 8:58 pmStavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
Fred,
Hey This isn’t Stormfront. I’m sorry your still upset about the Fuhrer’s defeat. Hey did you know in 1982 Isrraelis helped the Christians in Lebanon and Israel allows Church bells to ring, unlike the Muslims. Since you love Islam so Much as your Fuhrer did, why not move to Iran or Saudi Arabia?
Since you love Judaism so much , go to Israel right now……..And take Joe Lieberman with you (and don’t ever come back)
March 28th, 2008 at 8:59 pmGin Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
MCMetal Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
Do you enjoy making up completely unsubstantiated stupid shit ?
Soros isn’t a partner, just an investor like Bush and Albright and the rest.
BTW David M. Rubenstein is one of Jimmy Carters buddies from his treasury dept.
You of course , have access to paperwork on Soros’ investments ………Shut up , dipshit.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:01 pmGuess a person’s just not “hardcore” if they don’t have a huge chip on their shoulder about some broad swath of humanity somewhere.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:04 pmStavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
MCMetal,
I’m Catholic, not Jewish. They are better than the Muslims. Women and Gays have rights there. Christians are allowed to practice their religion there without harrasment unlike Muslims countries where they are considered Dhimmis.
As for the Turkds, how about the Armenian genocide and their occupation of Constantinople.
And when the hell was that ?
It isn’t known as “Constantinople” any more , you twit.
BTW
What “rights” do women and gays have here in the eyes of “Christians” ?
PS
You are no one to be claiming a particular group as being “better” ; you are hardly any type of arbiter that bases anything upon sound reasoning.
Not to mention that “better” is a relative term and completely inapplicable when used to characterize religions ; they are all frauds and have their blatant contradictions.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:05 pmGlobilization of our economy had been under way for 12 years before it was dumpted into Clintons lap. You can’t blame everything on Clinton and remain credible.
Democrats do some bad things too, I admit. Johnson was an example. By comparison though, the republicans are the most Anti-American people on the earth.
I know you will somehow find a way to disagree but I contend that every time the republicans get in office there is a huge economic scandal and a recession…..
I don’t think any democrat would ever have taken us to Iraq. I also believe that something would have been done by now to address our health care crisis if a democrat had been elected. So don’t try to say they are the same….they are not.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:06 pmAFK
March 28th, 2008 at 9:07 pmStavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
MCMetal,
I’m Catholic and AMerican. However I detest Islam and Is upport Israel, India, Russia and Serbia. An enemy of Islam is my friend.
Let’s drop this and discuss Globalization’s destruction of America.
You support India ? The country with the highest population of practicing Muslims ?
Yeah ………You’re retarded……….
March 28th, 2008 at 9:08 pmStavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
MCMetal,
You’re obviously an anti-Christian bigot. I laugh at hypocrites like that claim tolerance but in reality are the real Fascists. I respect real Leftists, not Leftwing Fascist like you.
Being anti-religion makes me anti-Christian in a way , I guess ; but you have no clue what a “bigot” is , do you , moron ? (Not that you understand what a “Facist” is , either)
BTW
I’m a “real American” , unlike your delusional silly stupid self.
I believe in the separation of church and state ; whereas your warped views are fueled by your hatred of a particular religion in Islam.
How narrow-minded and sad.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:12 pmStavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Fred,
Did I blame everything on Clinton? No but in his last year the recession began as the Tech Bubble burst and he did allow China to begin imposting here on a massive scale. Tell me how would solving Healthcare restore Industrial and Tech jobs? explain. Also there have been recessions under Democrats. Remeber Jimmy Carter’s 79/80 Recession? The Democrats are no better. Only John Edwards understood the problem and I believe he would’ve put Tariffs on Foreign good and Tax ompanies that Outsources our jobs. Heck even Huckabee understood the issues. But notice they went nowhere? Wake up the Globalist agenda is being carried out because we’re busy arguing over petty stuff. We need a new Patriotic Party for the American People!
It was Carter’s economic plan that saved this country ; and which was almost destroyed when his shitty successor , Ronnie Retard , implemetned his “Trickle Down(your leg) Economic Theory” , you ignoramus……….
BTW
You believe someone wanting to re-word the Constitution to coincide with the Bible , “understands the issues” ?
You’re insane…………..
March 28th, 2008 at 9:16 pmThe label that fits is confused.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:18 pmStavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
If you believe in the seperation of Church and state why do some of you Progressives support Havard’s decision to allow a segregated Gym for Muslims that has sepearet Hours for Men and Women?
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Quite frankly, this comment doesn’t make the least bit of sense.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:19 pmStavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
MCMetal,
India is 95% Hindu. Get your facts straight. They are enemies of Pakistan. The Muslims that live in India know their place and act up. If you believe in the seperation of Church and state why do some of you Progressives support Havard’s decision to allow a segregated Gym for Muslims that has sepearet Hours for Men and Women?
Sorry , I was incorrect ; but you were more incorrect (no surprise there)
80.5% of the people are Hindus, India, with 13.4% of its population Muslim, is also home to the third-largest Muslim population in the world after Indonesia and Pakistan.
As for you asinine comment on Harvard ; it is a PRIVATE INSTITUTION , birdbrain.Not a state school.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:21 pmStavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
McMetal,
“How narrow-minded and sad”
This is the Pot calling the Kettle black! Yoiu hate Christians so what makes you better? Nothing!
I don’t hate “Christians” ; I hate all religions for their fraudulence , hypocrisy , and blatant contradictions.
Can your pea-brain comprehend that yet , nitwit ?
March 28th, 2008 at 9:22 pmyou guys better go back to your madrassa and fake your own wounds with Kerry’s mistress.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:22 pmLike a Dog looking at a Computer – the Right wing looks at someone admitting they were wrong.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:24 pmWhat makes you so smart….that you put words into other people’s mouths? Metal never said that and it is disingenuous of you to imply that he did.
Religions have cause most of the worlds problems. they are all superstition. An easy answer for the weak minded. You accuse people of hate when you belong to an organiztion responsible for most of the hateful things that have occured on the earth in it’s entire history. Spare us your self-ritchous platitudes.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:24 pmStavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
MCMetal,
OK so if a Private institution bans Muslims from attending would you support that?
I simply don’t care what a private institution does ; that’s why it’s referred to/called PRIVATE , you dipshit.
BTW
If public schools started teaching Christian and Catholic ideological classes , would you be okay with adding Muslim , Judaism , Hindu and all other religions ?
March 28th, 2008 at 9:25 pmcage free brown Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
you guys better go back to your madrassa and fake your own wounds with Kerry’s mistress.
Will your AWOL chickenshit hero and 5 deferrment pansy coward VP be joining us ?
March 28th, 2008 at 9:26 pmStavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
ROS,
Here’s what I’m talking about! A leftist supporting Sharia!
Okaaaay… that explains NOTHING. Let’s try again…
A private educational institute decided to accomodate some of its’ students needs.
How does that turn into a “separation of church and state” issue?
March 28th, 2008 at 9:27 pmcage free brown
Is this a new brand of crank that has hit the streets?
March 28th, 2008 at 9:29 pmCan anyone here understand what this idiot Stavrakios is ranting about?
Now he’s on to “atheist idols”… WTF????
March 28th, 2008 at 9:29 pmyou compare 2 athiest in a 50 year span to centuries of killing by religious zelots? Not going to fly. Another thing, catholics are just one religion. I include you alongside of all the rest of the superstitious fools. Apparantly the 7th Centruy Jihad was about religion…..guess you are the one who is wrong.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:34 pmStavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
MCMetal,
“If public schools started teaching Christian and Catholic ideological classes , would you be okay with adding Muslim , Judaism , Hindu and all other religions ?”
No.
I’m against any Religions instructions taught in schools. I have no problem if the history and beliefs of all religions is taught as part of History, but not indoctrination in schools. I’m a Political Secularist. Politics and Religion don’t mix. Religion is a persoanl and Cultural matter.
Then you need to recant the crap you posted about Gomer Pyle Huckleberry ; that squid doesn’t understand shit , much less real “issues”.
He and the rest of the Bible thumpers are equally responsible in foisting Chimpy McDumbass on us………..
March 28th, 2008 at 9:34 pmStavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
The Republic of Stupidity,
It’s ceeping sharia law. Don’t you get it. Muslims are asking for special priveledges. I’m sorry thius is America, Men and Women are equal. Public and Private institutions should encourage this idea.
Ok so when Christians start making demands on private institutions, I don’t want to hear a peep out of Leftists.
Try telling that to Regent University 1st , jackass……….
March 28th, 2008 at 9:36 pmYou mean like the special privleges we give women by having mens and womens rest rooms instead of making them use the same one we use…..they are equal right?
March 28th, 2008 at 9:36 pmStav, the catholic, wants McMav, whose “spiritual advisors” think the pope should be locked up, to be the President.
Wonders never cease. What crossed purposes people are able to bend themselves to.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:41 pmStavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
The Republic of Stupidity,
It’s ceeping sharia law. Don’t you get it. Muslims are asking for special priveledges. I’m sorry thius is America, Men and Women are equal. Public and Private institutions should encourage this idea.
Ok so when Christians start making demands on private institutions, I don’t want to hear a peep out of Leftists.
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No, it’s not creeping sharia law. The students asked for something. The University decided to accomodate them. I’d call it cultural sensitivity.
You still haven’t explained how this an issue of Church and State separation.
Jewish folks can ask for kosher food. Is that a Church and State issue?
When Christians start making demands? Are you kidding?
You spend way too much time in Mummy’s basement.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:42 pmI think people conflate the freedom operation in Iraq with the war on terror all to often/easily. I, of course, am against fighting terrorism, but Iraq was a mistake, and like (R) Brent Scowcroft think that Iraq actually undermines the war on terror.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:48 pmhey guys, tell stavo the one about how IRAN was so outraged and helpful
right after 9/11 and the US turned down their good intentions…
and then spit in their faces…
that’s always a good story…
March 28th, 2008 at 9:50 pmStavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
MCMetal,
You hate the Bible thunpers but support the Koranimals. Explain this logic? WHen Mentioned Huckabee I was reffering to his populist vies not his social views. I’m a Social Libertarian. I could care less what people do in their homes.
There is no such thing as “populist views” in comparison to “social views” when discussing a Bible-thumping chucklehead ; a religious zealot views them all as one and the same.
As for the “Korananimals” ; lemme’ know when Rep Keith Ellison asks for the Constitution to be re-worded to mirror the Koran , and I’ll say the same things about him………………
March 28th, 2008 at 9:50 pmLIAR
And if I wasn’t sure before this has your finger prints all over it P.
Flag this heinous troll.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:51 pmStavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
Fred,
That’s a starw man argument. Very silly and just makes me laugh. Read about SHaria law. Ask your self this, why don’t Hindus and Buddhists don’t act up like Muslims?
Ask yourself this : why don’t Christians act more like Christ , like they’re supposed to ?
March 28th, 2008 at 9:52 pmActually, it’s not.
“Kosher foods are those that conform to Jewish law.”
That’s from Wiki.
What’s the difference between jews wanting kosher food and Muslims wanting some privacy in the gym?
None, as far as I can tell.
BTW, Nazism is a political system, not a religion.
You come across as hopelessly confused.
Who said I was defending Islam?
You don’t know anything about me, other than by the fact I said you seem to be very confused, but you’re ASSUMING you understand what I’m “against”.
“you Leftists”… talk about self-serving, meaningless, impossible-to-define generalities.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:52 pmI got it.
This is “The Joker”.
Same blanket hatred of Muslims. Same tortured grammar and spelling.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:53 pmStavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
The Republic of Stupidity,
If you’re not Pro-Islam I apologize. I just notice some ( not all) Leftist ahve a thing against Christians, but make excuses for Islam.
I bet me and you agree on keeping politics Secular?
Right?
You believe you’re keeping politics “secular” by singing the praises of a Bible-thumping jackass like Gomer Pyle Huckleberry ?
Are you retarded ?
March 28th, 2008 at 9:56 pmThat’s why it’s called “separation of church and state”.
You might not have noticed, of late, the number of Christians **cough..** calling for the Constitution to be brought in line w/ the Ten Commandments.
What s/b a fascinating moment in this country is when the Muslim population of a defined electoral district, local, state, or otherwise, decide to LEGALLY enact some Sharia based laws. THAT will be sooooo interesting when it happens, and it is coming.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:58 pmStavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
MCMetal,
I was reffering to his Populist views, not social views. Raed what I wrote then come back and speak. Can you read correctly? Anyway I’ll be in the JD threat. I hate the KKK and he’s one of them!
Read what I wrote about how their views being all-encompassing and as one , and then try and come back with another stupid ass comment , skid mark.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:59 pmThis is an old progressive name around here and it looks like Mr. P has started his namejacking again.
March 28th, 2008 at 10:00 pmStavrakios Says:
March 28th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
I’m not the Joker either! Keep guessing, your so far off!
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Well, that reply pretty much cinches it. “The Joker”, for sure.
March 28th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
March 28th, 2008 at 10:03 pmL I A R !
Any attempt to introduce sharia law as US law will be deemed unconstitutional and shot down. Pretty plain and simple.
March 28th, 2008 at 10:09 pm*Chuckle*
March 28th, 2008 at 10:13 pmAh give it to the right wing. I mean after 8 years we’ve become mired in an unnecessary and awful war, a pitiful and still tanking economy, a bad reputation around the world, thousands of Americans losing their homes and god knows what else. All mainly thanks to Republicans and right wing conservatives. Such Republican Neandrathals have so little to cheer about, give ‘em this.
March 28th, 2008 at 10:25 pmThe comments on this site are a stark example of groupthink. Any divergent comment or thought is ridiculed or pushed away in order to reinforce the status quo.
Because of this groupthink, the journalistic shortcomings that brought embarrassment to this site today will not be repaired. This failure is seen not as a symptom of a greater problem, rather it is viewed as a partisan attack from a vast right-wing conspiracy.
Two wrongs do not make a right. Exampling Fox News or any other media’s lack of integrity does not validate the actions of this site. If you kill your gardener and I kill my gardener, it doesn’t make your actions any less murderous because I did so as well.
When you are preparing a story on a political figure that alleges the candidate plagiarized his speech material, you should contact that candidate to get their side of the story. This is also true when you’re writing a story about someone like Condi Rice and making claims from anonymous sources about her aspirations for the office of VP.
When posting a retraction the false information should be removed from the site. I commend you for posting the correction, but the author left the invalid information along with a hint at a conspiracy theory in which it was alleged the original McCain speech somehow magically appeared on the web after the story broke.
A quick role reversal might help you to see that this has less to do with partisan politics, and more to do with core journalism principles. If this had been your favorite candidate or a relative, you would have hoped the reporter would have thoroughly research the story before posting such conjecture.
I urge you do drop the self righteous attitude and examine what went wrong today. If your primary goal is to bring more people into the fold and introduce them to your progressive ideology then it would behove you to find your journalistic integrity before its too late.
March 29th, 2008 at 12:07 ammutual, get off your self-righteous, sanctimonious, fake soapbox…
March 29th, 2008 at 12:47 am“what went wrong” happened YESterday…
TP’s taken care of it… without your help.
.
If the Bush administration made a similar mistake, they’d classify it so that no one could learn about it. This is one of the wonderful differences between the left and the right.
March 29th, 2008 at 12:54 am“The actions we took in the wake of our mistake demonstrate this site’s commitment to maintaining credibility and transparency.”
An admirable goal and claim. Unfortunately, it is belied by the fact that ThinkProgress has yet to acknowledge its error of March 17 when it embarrassingly confused Ayman al-Zawahiri with Abu Musab al-Zarqawi AND its inaccurate reporting of Eric Alterman’s erroneous claim that only two newspapers reported information regarding the 4000th US military death in Iraq.
Until ThinkProgress acknowledges and corrects these other egregious errors, its claim that it has a “commitment to maintaining credibility and transparency” ring hollow.
March 29th, 2008 at 1:03 amkaty: mutual, get off your self-righteous, sanctimonious, fake soapbox…“what went wrong” happened YESterday… TP’s taken care of it… without your help.
If this problem has been taken care of, why has the same reporter made the same mistakes today? The Condi Rice story used anonymous sources and never contact Miss Rice to confirm her side of the story. Instead, the author posted conjecture about Condi’s motivations for the office of vice president.
This is going to be a reoccuring theme I fear.
March 29th, 2008 at 1:05 amStavrakios & MC Metal,
Get a room already.
-AF
Andrew Sullivan Is A Fraud
March 29th, 2008 at 1:19 amWhen ‘Scientific American’ makes a retraction, the ways of the world remain, mostly unchanged! You shouldn’t be so entertaining, ThinkProgress.org! NOW, GET RIGHT BACK TO WORK!!lol
March 29th, 2008 at 1:43 am> Unfortunately, it is belied by the fact that ThinkProgress >has yet to acknowledge its error of March 17 when it >embarrassingly confused Ayman al-Zawahiri with Abu Musab al->Zarqawi
how about that time your heroes “embarasingly” confused saddam with someone who had WMD’s and ties with Al-queeda?
March 29th, 2008 at 2:37 amWhat’s embarrassing is Elmer McFud reading his speeches.
March 29th, 2008 at 3:05 amIt was probably intentional that Fox said “thinkprogress.com”; after all, why direct people to your actual page when they can slam you and then try to limit the web hits you get in response?
March 29th, 2008 at 7:31 amI agree, third party.
March 29th, 2008 at 9:24 amThis is a common mis-direction ploy.
Remember when BillO said there were no homeless people under the bridge in New Orleans?
No, I don’t and nobody does.
Keep up the good work, TP. This is a CREDIBLE site, heck most everything is just from the major newspapers but finding the most eye-popping articles and saving TP readers time. There’s hardly any opinion or editorializing.
YOU are the fact-checker, it’s too bad you didn’t find this hidden little speech from 13 years ago, uncited by the Admiral.
March 29th, 2008 at 10:10 amOf course the articles are not favorable to the right, if people want a pure news feed with any mention of politics they can use Google news or something.
March 29th, 2008 at 10:12 amThe comments on this site are a stark example of groupthink. Any divergent comment or thought is ridiculed or pushed away in order to reinforce the status quo.
Fried baloney. I took TP to task for it’s error almost immediately, and I’ve been here since TP was founded. I challenge you to post any one of my comments that remotely resembles groupthink.
Just one.
Or apologize, for making such an obviously ridiculous statement.
March 29th, 2008 at 10:21 ammmm… i haven’t had fried balony is ages…
guess it’s best…
i see 40ish comments are scrubbed… but not this one:
“If you kill your gardener and I kill my gardener, it doesn’t make your actions any less murderous because I did so as well.”
these people crack me up… have you heard this one? … from C&L:
“I’m sure at some point Jeffrey Dahmer ate peanut butter sandwiches doesn’t make the fact that he ate people any less wrong.” -elizabeth hasselbeck
what causes this malady? is it as simple as being mis/un-informed?
what’s WRONG with these people???
March 29th, 2008 at 10:37 am…
this hidden little speech from 13 years ago, uncited by the Admiral.
This is perhaps the most disturbing factor of the whole controversy.
March 29th, 2008 at 10:39 amFor McCain and his speech-writer pal to be rehashing concepts so far out of date clearly demonstrates a delusional and archaic mindset.
The Soviet Communists called themselves “progressive”… get it?
March 29th, 2008 at 10:48 amThe Soviet Communists called themselves “progressive”… get it?
Nope. Please explain.
March 29th, 2008 at 10:57 amI guess Fox News has to get excited. When they make fifty mistakes to thinkprogress one. Yea, they’re excited alright.
March 29th, 2008 at 10:58 ammmm… i haven’t had fried balony is ages…
guess it’s best…
Bar-b-qued is best!
March 29th, 2008 at 10:59 amwhat causes this malady? is it as simple as being mis/un-informed?
Willfully mis-informed. They know they’re getting a selective editing of the news – that’s why they watch Fox. No other network consistently reinforces their stereotypical thinking – and with neato graphics!
…… Zoom! Flash! Boom! Fox News!……
March 29th, 2008 at 11:06 amBoy, trying to read through this troll fest was very interesting. It looks like a lot of posts were deleted because people frequently refer to the post number that is ahead of the actual posters post number. What happened here?
March 29th, 2008 at 12:06 pmit must’ve gotten ugly, bilbo… when i left last night it was just the usual…
March 29th, 2008 at 12:22 pmobnoxious, and dumb, but tolerable… thinking back, it could’ve been that it’s
anti-islam hate speech may have gotten serious…
not sure of it’s original incarnation that evidently had been banned…
…
bbq bolony? i just cut slits in it and plop it in a hot skillet…
March 29th, 2008 at 12:26 pmsometimes with a fried egg… and cheese… on toast… mmm… those were the days…
had to change my diet, but occasionally i backslide…
if i had any bologna, i would be on a backslide today… right now…
Paraphrase of ever Fox News story, “The war? It’s going great… Hey! Look over there!”
March 31st, 2008 at 4:45 pm