Fox’s Chris Wallace Echoes White House Spin, Claims Basra Violence Is ‘Good News’
Fox’s Chris Wallace Echoes White House Spin, Claims Basra Violence Is ‘Good News’
On Thursday, President Bush declared that the violence currently engulfing the southern Iraqi city of Basra is “very positive” because it shows that the Iraqi government “is willing to take on elements that believe they are beyond the law.” On the same day, White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe said that clashes in Basra are “a credit not only to the Iraqis, but to the success of the surge.”
On Mike Gallagher’s radio show yesterday, Chris Wallace, the host of Fox News Sunday, echoed the Bush administration’s spin and declared that violence in Basra is “good news”:
We’re going to talk about Iraq and the Iraqi offensive, which I think, in a sense, is good news. Because it’s the Iraqi government, who’s mostly Shi’ite, taking on Shi’ite outlaw militias in the southern part of the country and this is after all what the whole point of the surge and our efforts there was supposed to be all about, was to get the Iraqis to stand up and control their own country.
Listen here:
Both Wallace and the White House are making “a dangerous oversimplification” when they cast the violence as a government-versus-militia, good-versus-bad struggle. In fact, as national security analyst Anthony Cordesman says, the clashes in Basra are “more like a mini civil war between competing Shiite groups vying for power.”
Additionally, the Iraqi government is having difficulty establishing control over the city. Earlier this week, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki gave the militants 72 hours to surrender, but now he has been forced to extend that deadline to April 8.
The New York Times reports today that the “violence has spread to Shiite districts of Baghdad and other places in Iraq,” which is “raising fears” that recent security gains “could be at risk.” It’s hard to see how this amounts to “good news.”
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wow, wintermd is almost as big an idiot as Wallace. Let’s get Bill Clinton to go on FOX and make Chris cry and pee his pants again. That was funny.
March 29th, 2008 at 8:04 pmWow, I didn’t expect to see you here wintermd. What up?
March 29th, 2008 at 8:17 pmBloodshed in Iraq is good news and my $hit doesn’t stink. Everybody knows what a fool’s errand the whole Iraq misadventure has been, is and will be until we leave the country to the Iraqi people. Fox mouthpieces have no credibility and everybody knows it. There are those willful ignorant few, but even they know in their hearts what a fiasco the GOP has perpetrated on the world.
March 29th, 2008 at 8:20 pmMazda75 is in the house!
March 29th, 2008 at 8:28 pmOh yeah Gin is here too
March 29th, 2008 at 8:32 pmWe have successfully captured and prosecuted the perpetrators of the 1993 attack on the world trade center. But now for the 2001 attack we have attacked the wrong country, mainly as an excuse for corporations, like Halliburton, KBR, Blackwater, etc. to steal from the US treasury. This is what passes for patriotism from the GOP. All problems in the world can not be solved by shock and awe. Witness the last five years in Iraq.
March 29th, 2008 at 8:34 pmIf we had followed Carter’s policy toward energy independence instead of Reagan’s pandering to oil and auto industries…..followed by Iran-contra, more innocent blood spilled, followed by alzheimer’s defense….irresponsible pardons of criminals like Olie North and Poindexter.
March 29th, 2008 at 8:40 pmWow, the trolls sound all kinds of pissy and resentful about something tonight.
Anyway, on topic, it’s been pointed out many times that, to the administration and its media leg-humpers, less violence in Iraq is good news, and more violence in Iraq is good news.
Makes one wonder… what would constitute bad news?
Judging by the way they argue against it, my guess is that withdrawing the troops is the only thing that they would consider bad news.
And that’s because the Carlyle Group and the BushCo military-industrial partners wouldn’t have an open spigot of money flooding them up to their armpits.
March 29th, 2008 at 8:44 pmCan we please get better trolls in here?
Can we at least get some who make sense some of the time? I realize that’s a tall order, as cross-referencing “wingnut” and “people who make sense some of the time” yields a really small pool of applicants, but they don’t have to make a lot of sense.
March 29th, 2008 at 8:48 pmJust heard on NPR a few minutes ago that al-Maliki had to abandon his HQ or office or whatever he’s got because his safety couldn’t be guaranteed any longer. He said that maybe this push may have been a bad idea.
Now that is progress and could only be considered “Good news”. Chris Wallace is right again. How does he do it time after time after time?
March 29th, 2008 at 8:49 pmIt’s this type of lazy thinking by the republicans/neo-con artists that leads to the arrogancy of those in power to try to evoke 1984-ish logic.
March 29th, 2008 at 8:49 pmMazda75
March 29th, 2008 at 8:51 pmDo you like out Run DMC stuff?
old
March 29th, 2008 at 8:52 pmMazda75, how does this violence make the surge myth plausible?
March 29th, 2008 at 8:52 pmWait, so is it a myth, or not? The New York Times and Thinkprogress.org just claimed that this Shiite violence was harming the progress made by the surge -=Mazda75=-
I dont work for either one and never claimed the surge made any progress. Try again.
March 29th, 2008 at 8:55 pmViolence = good
Decreased violence = good
Increased violence = good
Garbage = good
Media garbage = good
WTF?????
March 29th, 2008 at 8:57 pmI can only shake my head…I can only pity Liberals. -=Mazda75=-
How are you liking the Bush deficits, the 3 trillion dollar budget that doesnt include Afghanistan or Iraq, the debasement of your dollar, the bigger government? I can only shake my head at the bamboozled.
March 29th, 2008 at 8:58 pmw00t!
here’s MORE good news! … found at C&L:
29/03/08 — – MOSCOW, March 27 (RIA Novosti) – Russian military intelligence services are reporting a flurry of activity by U.S. Armed Forces near Iran’s borders, a high-ranking security source said Tuesday.
“The latest military intelligence data point to heightened U.S. military preparations for both an air and ground operation against Iran,” the official said, adding that the Pentagon has probably not yet made a final decision as to when an attack will be launched.
He said the Pentagon is looking for a way to deliver a strike against Iran “that would enable the Americans to bring the country to its knees at minimal cost.”
He also said the U.S. Naval presence in the Persian Gulf has for the first time in the past four years reached the level that existed shortly before the invasion of Iraq in March 2003.
Col.-Gen. Leonid Ivashov, vice president of the Academy of Geopolitical Sciences, said last week that the Pentagon is planning to deliver a massive air strike on Iran’s military infrastructure in the near future.
A new U.S. carrier battle group has been dispatched to the Gulf.
The USS John C. Stennis, with a crew of 3,200 and around 80 fixed-wing aircraft, including F/A-18 Hornet and Superhornet fighter-bombers, eight support ships and four nuclear submarines are heading for the Gulf, where a similar group led by the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower has been deployed since December 2006.
March 29th, 2008 at 8:59 pmPoor Gin, kinda hard to get a word in edgewise tonight, eh?
March 29th, 2008 at 8:59 pmDon’t get too discouraged, the hopped up compact will blow it’s head gasket soon, then we’ll have time for you.
So, why are you posting Liberal rhetoric on a Liberal site that claimed that the surge is working -=Mazda=-
Why are you posting as a conservative when Bush outspent Clinton?
March 29th, 2008 at 9:01 pmmazda75 Says:
March 29th, 2008 at 8:2
“mindless, Liberals, complete and utter idiocy from the left.”
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Here, let me straighten out your painfully confused thinking for ya, li’l feller.
“Mindless trolls, complete and utter idiocy from the right, endlessly…”
There! Makes PERFECT sense now, no?
(You can thank me later… and NO, not the way that KKKarl thanks you for yer trollin’ efforts… don’t want any **cough** “communicable diseases”, now…)
March 29th, 2008 at 9:03 pm“You get an ‘A’ for being able to spew out mindless left wing talking points.”
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You did not refute anything. Go ahead — convince me (us.)
March 29th, 2008 at 9:04 pmYou have the Liberal talking points down to a T. Good for you. You get an “A” for being able to spew out mindless left wing talking points. =-Mazda=-
WASHINGTON — George W. Bush, despite all his recent bravado about being an apostle of small government and budget-slashing, is the biggest spending president since Lyndon B. Johnson. In fact, he’s arguably an even bigger spender than LBJ.
“He’s a big government guy,” said Stephen Slivinski, the director of budget studies at Cato Institute, a libertarian research group.
Thats a libertarian conservative talking point Mazda, nice ‘mindless’ try.
heh
March 29th, 2008 at 9:05 pmLet’s make sure we get this White House spin right: the Iraq violence is up–the surge is working. The Iraq violence is down–the surge is working. I wonder what Petraus will say during his testimony?
March 29th, 2008 at 9:06 pm“continue with your mindless, robotic, droolish, left wing talking points.”
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How convincing. Not.
March 29th, 2008 at 9:07 pmWhy should I repeat your group-think imagination Mazda?
First you need to prove I ever said any of those things [Katrina etc] but you cant. Which, well, makes you look like a fibber with a wide paint brush.
March 29th, 2008 at 9:08 pmwhy do I need to refute anything? it would be like explaining Calculus to a 4 year old.
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Hm. Somebody defined the word “Calculus” for you. Still not convincing — sorry.
March 29th, 2008 at 9:09 pmmazda75 Says:
March 29th, 2008 at 8:37 pm
Gin Says:
March 29th, 2008 at 8:27 pm
Robo-troll doesn’t even read what it is reacting to.
March 29th, 2008 at 9:10 pmLOL
PS, mazda, Gin has a much broader vocabulary than you do, be nicer to your compatriot trolls.
Looks like some nationalistic Iraqis are staging a little surge of their own… against the puppet regime installed and propped up by the Bush gangster regime…
We need to get the fark out of Iraq now and let the Iraqis run their own country their own way. Same goes for Afghanistan…
March 29th, 2008 at 9:10 pmmazda75 Says:
March 29th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Holy Cheney?!?!
Is this twit actually trying to pretend Botch DIDN’T run up a multi-trillion dollar deficit in his 2 terms? That it’s just a talking point?
Wow… new Spring troll techniques being tested tonight.
First, it was that idiot down on the “Turn Out The Lights” thread, demanding someone show him JUST ONE page on the entire Internet that supported “global warming”, and now this moron, claiming “the deficit” is just a talking point.
It would appear the new strategy is make an absolutely insane suggestion and then demand someone prove it wrong over and over again, no matter what.
“The deficit is just a talking point”.
And that garbled syntax… this one is somewhere overseas, or from overseas.
It’d be just… like… the RNC… to hire illegals to do their trolling.
After all, their treasurer just ripped ‘em off good. They’re BROKE!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA… man, that’s funny.
March 29th, 2008 at 9:10 pm“Gosh, I love my mindless, lazy Liberals like you. My own little pet.”
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Yet, you’re still unconvincing — which ought to be easy for you, given your confessed target audience.
Tell us — why are you such a failure?
March 29th, 2008 at 9:15 pm“continue with your mindless, robotic, droolish, left wing talking points.” -=Mazda=-
First I need to explain to you that opinions, such as this string of imaginative bloviating of yours, is not a fact nor a truth. Secondly, I would like to point out its a strawman, an argument in and of your imagination, and not worth debating [Nanna nanna boo boo poopy diaper wearer lol]
Now, since I am a conservative in the true sense of the word [conserve fuel, energy, money, forests etc etc] I will point out some other FACTS.
Under Bush it’s grown on average by 5.7 percent a year. Under LBJ — who had a war to fund, too — it rose by 4.9 percent a year. Both numbers are adjusted for inflation. …”
March 29th, 2008 at 9:15 pmThe Republic of Stupidity Says: “Wow… new Spring troll techniques being tested tonight.”
It’s either the same one, or a symbiotic tag team.
I’m guessing they’ve been sicced on us ’cause of all the attention we’ve been getting from the MSM lately.
Damn, we’re good!
PS, I’m flagging mazda. Join the party.
March 29th, 2008 at 9:16 pmSo, Mazda, since you likely voted for Bush and/or support the current GOP spending madness by calling it ‘conservative’, you are actually more liberal than the liberals. But hey, I know its easy to be duped by the bone-headed pundits, its their job, and you should be angry for listening to them.
March 29th, 2008 at 9:20 pmHEY! I SAID:
29/03/08 — – MOSCOW, March 27 (RIA Novosti) – Russian military intelligence services are reporting a flurry of activity by U.S. Armed Forces near Iran’s borders, a high-ranking security source said Tuesday.
“The latest military intelligence data point to heightened U.S. military preparations for both an air and ground operation against Iran,” the official said, adding that the Pentagon has probably not yet made a final decision as to when an attack will be launched.
He said the Pentagon is looking for a way to deliver a strike against Iran “that would enable the Americans to bring the country to its knees at minimal cost.”
He also said the U.S. Naval presence in the Persian Gulf has for the first time in the past four years reached the level that existed shortly before the invasion of Iraq in March 2003.
Col.-Gen. Leonid Ivashov, vice president of the Academy of Geopolitical Sciences, said last week that the Pentagon is planning to deliver a massive air strike on Iran’s military infrastructure in the near future.
A new U.S. carrier battle group has been dispatched to the Gulf.
The USS John C. Stennis, with a crew of 3,200 and around 80 fixed-wing aircraft, including F/A-18 Hornet and Superhornet fighter-bombers, eight support ships and four nuclear submarines are heading for the Gulf, where a similar group led by the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower has been deployed since December 2006.
W T F ? ? ? !!!
March 29th, 2008 at 9:20 pmCalling people “my pet”…
I don’t recall the troll… just the phrase.
This one has been here before.
Yeah.. flag away! This one is about as toxic as it can get.
Yer prolly right, Nevar.
First the wingnuttery getting into a tizzy about the McCain speech silliness, and now the NYC television station picking up TP comments.
I have to say, I haven’t seen hyperactive trolling like this in months.
March 29th, 2008 at 9:22 pmGo my little pet, type again. I promise I’ll give you a treat. yeah…c’mon boy, c’mon -=Mazda=-
Well, I can see Mazda has gone all irrational. No sense in debating the pseudo conservative Limbaugh Liberal anymore.
March 29th, 2008 at 9:22 pmneed someone to really challenge my 180 IQ. Mazda
Yes, calling people pets is such invigorating intelligent discussion.
March 29th, 2008 at 9:23 pmThanks katy, I’m looking for more on this.
March 29th, 2008 at 9:24 pmNot very comforting news.
Is Cheney back from the Middle East yet?
We know he won’t give the order to fire till he’s safe in his bunker.
I said ‘likely’ Mazda, which means I wasnt assuming. Werent you here last night under a different name?
March 29th, 2008 at 9:25 pmLook at this new site!
TP the Right is after you!
http://thinkprogresswatch.wordpress.com/
March 29th, 2008 at 9:25 pmMazda won’t be happy till the USA is broke, our military is weakened beyond repair and the world sides against us.
March 29th, 2008 at 9:26 pmSo what do you think of the Tokamak reactor experiments Mazda?
March 29th, 2008 at 9:26 pm“Tell us — why are you such a failure?”
“Oh look at that people….my little pet knows how to obey orders well. NO wonder he is a Liberal.”
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You didn’t tell us. Perhaps you can’t. Why have you failed so miserably? You’ve convinced no one. Why do you suck so hard at what you think you’re doing?
Are you wholly incompetent? Or do you NOT want to convince anyone? Are you a McGuffin? Or don’t you know??
March 29th, 2008 at 9:27 pmWhat passes for Conservative these days deserves hatred. Party above country, greed and corruption wrapped in a flag and carrying a Bible.
March 29th, 2008 at 9:28 pmdon’t like it….TOUGH!!! don’t be such great hypocrites. -=Mazda=-
I wasnt being a hypocrite I was pointing out the hypocrisy of the used to be ‘fiscally responsible’ conservatives.
March 29th, 2008 at 9:29 pmWhat’s “Affermative” mean?
Where is this thing from? Is this IQ the sad consequence of home schooling?
Or is it FOB? ESL classes are readily available.
March 29th, 2008 at 9:30 pmUmm, Mr 180 IQ, you misspelled Pinocchio.
March 29th, 2008 at 9:31 pmThank you, Think Progress.
March 29th, 2008 at 9:32 pmAvshar Says:
March 29th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Look at this new site!
TP the Right is after you!
http://thinkprogresswatch.wordpress.com/
Scary blog! Look at the first item in the blogroll. No surprises there.
March 29th, 2008 at 9:32 pmThe Right has TP targeted! You’re all doing a good job!
Look at the hate on this site!
http://thinkprogresswatch.wordpress.com/
March 29th, 2008 at 9:32 pm“I treat Liberals as they treat conservatives.”
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You haven’t yet. You’ve displayed the left end of the Bell curve. That is all.
Why are you such a failure? DNA or environment? Help explain.
March 29th, 2008 at 9:32 pmXisithrus… it misspelled more than just Pinocchio.
Its grasp of basic English is nonexistent.
Come on, Mazda… you can tell us… where you from?
March 29th, 2008 at 9:33 pmhttp://thinkprogresswatch.wordpress.com/
Thats Mr P with a new blog.
The most recent post is, of course, wrong because Sadr and Maliki are both Shia.
March 29th, 2008 at 9:35 pm*
March 29th, 2008 at 9:35 pmno way i’m giving that “watch” site any hits…
.
Its grasp of basic English is nonexistent. -=TROS=-
Amusing thing isnt it?
March 29th, 2008 at 9:37 pmWow… ThinkProgressWatch… how weirdly flattering… we’ve hit it big, boys!
They DEFINITIVELY see us as a threat!
The wingnuttery know their getting their Cheneys kicked on line, but they don’t understand why, as evinced by the quality or trolls showing up here today.
First, it was “Conservapedia” ***echoing reverb voice, flickering lights***
Now, they’re rolling out the BIG guns… “ThinkProgressWatch”…
Saaaay… think those folks will let us go over and post there the way their fruitcakes git ta come over ‘n post here?
March 29th, 2008 at 9:39 pmXisithrus Says:
March 29th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Amusing thing isn’t it?
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In a weird way, yeah. Damned near incoherent posts.
All the trolls have been wacky today. Spring fever?
OMG… please don’t tell us the trolls are gonna go into a mating frenzy…
MUST* WASH* EYES* out… over and over and over again…
March 29th, 2008 at 9:42 pmLet’s post over there and refute their lies!
March 29th, 2008 at 9:42 pmoh yea… just reminded… here’s one to bookmark:
http://www.straighttalkmccain.com/
“…keeping an eye on that man…”
March 29th, 2008 at 9:44 pmWhat Chris Wallace fails to note is that Iraq is corrupt from stem to stern and the very corruption in Basra runs all the way back to Baghdad. What we are seeing is a battle for the control of oil.
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OMG… please don’t tell us the trolls are gonna go into a mating frenzy… -=TROS=-
Heating up a hot red poker to jab into my eyes…
March 29th, 2008 at 9:44 pmAFK for a bit
March 29th, 2008 at 9:45 pmSorry, X…
Guess I shouldn’t have said that last one…
When yer done, mind keepin’ it hot so’s I can use it next?
March 29th, 2008 at 9:46 pmAvshar Says:
March 29th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
Let’s post over there and refute their lies!
Or let’s pretend it doesn’t exist and that the blogger wouldn’t come over here with a sock puppet suggesting that we waste our time adding hits to Mr Pee’s blog. How about that?
March 29th, 2008 at 9:47 pmYeah, gummitch… I was wondering about that one too.
Again, that stilted language.
ya hafta admit, that site is a hoot.
March 29th, 2008 at 9:48 pmTROS, Mr Pee and his buddies are always a hoot. Nuts, but a hoot.
March 29th, 2008 at 9:51 pmTP watch is very vile. I hope TP takes action against them!
March 29th, 2008 at 9:53 pmSon of a gun… there is someone on duty at TP tonight.
All of Mazda’s posts are gone!
Thank you, TP!
That was a particularly virulent troll.
Yeah, gummitch… nuttier than a Clark Bar… and entertaining, until they go psychotic on us.
I just HAD to go look at that site. It is hysterical.
Strange, when you click on “About”… there’s no meaningful info there what so ever… ***scratching head***… gee, I wonder who’s behind it?
March 29th, 2008 at 9:55 pmFlagging works, by golly! Thanks everyone.
March 29th, 2008 at 9:57 pmIt’s nearly 8 P.M. Mountain Time, I’m going to go sit outside for awhile in the dark!
Avshar Says:
March 29th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
TP watch is very vile. I hope TP takes action against them!
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Another troll… no doubt about it. Kinda like “The Wild and Crazy Guys” from SNL years ago, huh?
“Your BIG American breasts…” “We are wild and crazy guys!!”
March 29th, 2008 at 9:57 pmGeorge W. Bush is suffering from another severe case of premature Iraq elation. That’s the inescapable diagnosis after a week which featured sunny statements from the President even as Baghdad and Basra descended into chaos.
Five years after “mission accomplished,” Bush is now portraying setbacks as proof of success and escalating violence as a sign of a healthy democracy.
For the details, see:
March 29th, 2008 at 10:09 pm“Bush’s Premature Iraq Elation.”
um… please click on the mccain link i left above, @64…
what do you get?
i’ve gotten a pop up that says it cannot connect to that server,
and, another time, i got the yaf.org site that i checked out earlier (rove thread)…
what’s goin’ on???
March 29th, 2008 at 10:11 pmI just tried, katy and got the same thing.
Mebbe someone is having server problems tonight.
March 29th, 2008 at 10:14 pmI think Chris Wallace is kind of a poster child for whats wrong with FOX…failing upwards.
March 29th, 2008 at 10:21 pmwhich did you get, tros?
March 29th, 2008 at 10:24 pmTold ya!!
March 29th, 2008 at 10:34 pmI just got the same error message at the crookedgibberishMc Bush site. Maybe he’s out of money again. Time to break out those taxpayers’ dollars–and deny he wants them. Or maybe take out another phony and illegal loan.
March 29th, 2008 at 10:34 pmMethinks we have a concern troll on the loose…
March 29th, 2008 at 10:42 pmAs for Wallace, what a shameless parroting of the Bush administration spin of the facts.
Obviously, given the dearth of good news out of Iraq, they have to turn whatever news into “good” ones; even if they have to spew transparent lies.
Transparent to anyone with a brain. That would exclude anyone still supporting the American occupation of Iraq.
March 29th, 2008 at 10:45 pmFlag this concern troll.
March 29th, 2008 at 10:46 pmTruthfully?
Whoever is behind that ding-dong site is indeed copying comments from here and posting them over there, completely out of context.
Can’t tell if they’re altering them to make them read worse, but they are copying off of TP and posting over there.
Kinda creepy, actually. Is that you, P?
March 29th, 2008 at 10:49 pmWhat site, TRoS?
March 29th, 2008 at 10:52 pmThe Republic of Stupidity – March 29th, 2008 at 10:49 pm
Of course it’s Mr. P. And the concern troll is either him or one of his many split personalities.
Who else is obsessive and creepy enough to devote so much time and energy to a website like that?
The last thing that person needs is a website. What he really needs is urgent professional help, before he goes on a shooting rampage.
March 29th, 2008 at 10:54 pmToo bad we can’t post over there like Troll Avshar is suggesting. The moderators here should put that site up to immediately go to spam.
March 29th, 2008 at 10:55 pmTo Chris Wallace: Thanks for this brilliant insight — violence in Iraq is a good thing.
How much more good news can we take, before we admit that Bush’s Iraq Fiasco is the worst disaster in US history?
March 29th, 2008 at 10:55 pmThe TPWatch site being espoused by Troll Avshar. Flag him.
March 29th, 2008 at 10:56 pmSure Chris, less is more and more is more. Whatever!
March 29th, 2008 at 10:56 pmShayne, what site?
March 29th, 2008 at 10:58 pmDon’t comment on that TP watch site, they’ll have access to your email address.
Just sayin’
March 29th, 2008 at 11:01 pmNow, hypothically speaking, if someone were to go post offensive stuff on this alternate website, it would naturally be understood by all (especially the Rush Limbaugh listeners, who would recognize the tactic as one Rush himself frequently employs) that it had been done strictly for its entertainment value, right?
March 29th, 2008 at 11:02 pmShayne Says:
March 29th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
The TPWatch site being espoused by Troll Avshar. Flag him.
“Espoused”? Is it big word night?
Avshar is a sock puppet. The blog is another one of P’s pathetic cries for attention. He can copy and paste comments all he wants, but other than his BFFs, CT and The Joker, no one will read them.
March 29th, 2008 at 11:02 pmAvshar Says:I did as America Patriot to make them look bad!
Do tell!
March 29th, 2008 at 11:03 pmkaty Says:
March 29th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
HEY! I SAID:
29/03/08 — – MOSCOW, March 27 (RIA Novosti) – Russian military intelligence services are reporting a flurry of activity by U.S. Armed Forces near Iran’s borders, a high-ranking security source said Tuesday.
This is very interesting. Do you suppose Fallon was correct?
March 29th, 2008 at 11:04 pmZooey Says:
March 29th, 2008 at 11:01 pm
Don’t comment on that TP watch site, they’ll have access to your email address.
Just sayin’
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Thanks, Zooey, good call.
March 29th, 2008 at 11:07 pmNevar Says:
March 29th, 2008 at 11:07 pm
Thanks, Zooey, good call.
Thanks, Nevar. :)
March 29th, 2008 at 11:09 pmI am not sure what the goal of this concern troll is, or what is the point of that website.
Maybe they are tring to collect IP & email addresses, or push malware & spyware onto other people’s computers.
Whatever the case might be, I’d stay clear from that site.
March 29th, 2008 at 11:12 pmI see Zooey already said that.
Oh, well. It was worth repeating… ;-)
March 29th, 2008 at 11:13 pmTroll Asshar stole my big word to spew his hate speak at his other site. From now on gummitch I’ll be more careful to not feed the trolls big words.
March 29th, 2008 at 11:16 pmkaty- the story about Russian military intelligence and U.S. military build-up along Iran border is from March 2007. Was there something more?
March 29th, 2008 at 11:21 pmWind Chris up. Watch him spin.
Christ, I can get a ballerina toy to do that. Cheaper.
March 29th, 2008 at 11:22 pmi’ve no idea if the 2 could be connected, but right after i posted the link above,
to a new blog called “Straight Talk McCain”, started by C&Ls john amato & friends, the server quit conntecting to it…
naahhh…
March 29th, 2008 at 11:23 pmleftcoast – i found it at C&L earlier… wasn’t able to round up the link myself…
i thought it sounded familiar…
click on the C&L link @22…
want to catch SNL…
later
March 29th, 2008 at 11:26 pmHey, Rahsva, up yours, and your TP WitchHunt site.
March 29th, 2008 at 11:30 pmARN is direct and to the point…….and always 100% accurate.
March 29th, 2008 at 11:31 pmAvshar is threatening posters, isn’t that supposed to get him kicked out of here?
March 29th, 2008 at 11:33 pmShayne, there’s a reason they started this shit on the weekend.
Flag him.
March 29th, 2008 at 11:39 pmIt is the current administration that is playing right into the hand of Al Quaida.
March 29th, 2008 at 11:47 pmGOP is the best recruiter Osama ever had.
March 29th, 2008 at 11:48 pmGOP is running the US Military into the ground and bankrupting our economy. Osama sits laughing at our stupidity.
March 29th, 2008 at 11:50 pmOooh, someone is paying attention. Quickest troll disappearing act ever.
March 29th, 2008 at 11:52 pmSNL is a repeat… with hillary…
i heard from C&L, and they did have server problems…
doesn’t seem to be up yet though…
how it got started:
March 29th, 2008 at 11:55 pmStraight Talk McCain Speech on economy: Open Thread
By: John Amato on Tuesday, March 25th, 2008 at 10:24 AM – PDT
OK, since he’s admitted that he’s not into economic issues, I guess we’ll probably hear he wants to put together a Blue Ribbon panel of experts to sort it all out…
A few of us have just started a new blog called “Straight Talk McCain”
…
Osama is laughing that Leftists like you support the Islamization of America.
If anything, he’s laughing at cowards like you, who decry the islamitization of America, yet sit comfortably at home, rearranging the deckchairs as his failed ideology sinks beneath the electoral waves.
March 29th, 2008 at 11:56 pm# TP Watcher Says:
March 29th, 2008 at 11:52 pm
TP Watcher?
March 29th, 2008 at 11:56 pmWhere did you get that from, Wayne’s World?
Do you watch it till it goes all the way down?
And retroactive apologies for the horribly mixed metaphor.
March 29th, 2008 at 11:58 pmIn this country we have the freedom to practice whatever religion one believes in. Nobody has the power to force a religion on another. I personally pray to the FROG GOD that lives under the birdfeeder.
March 29th, 2008 at 11:58 pmOne more attack and the Mosques will burn!
Not while you’re sitting home running a chickenshit blog, it won’t.
March 29th, 2008 at 11:59 pmBye, TP Watcher. :-)
March 30th, 2008 at 12:02 amOnly a coward, and an historically ignorant person, would suggest that America would ever surrender to a bunch of religious fanatics – unless they’re Christian.
March 30th, 2008 at 12:02 amI personally pray to the FROG GOD that lives under the birdfeeder.
Bacchus!
March 30th, 2008 at 12:04 amI personally pray to the FROG GOD that lives under the birdfeeder.
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Praise RANA!
March 30th, 2008 at 12:04 amI pray for the wrath of FROG to be set upon the practitioners of the inferior religions. One day FROG will swallow whole churches, steeples and all.
March 30th, 2008 at 12:06 amBye, TP Watcher. :-)
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dusted that one…
March 30th, 2008 at 12:06 amNevar Says:
March 30th, 2008 at 12:06 am
dusted that one…
It will be back.
March 30th, 2008 at 12:08 amSee Barfly and Nevar are followers of the great and powerful FROG.
March 30th, 2008 at 12:08 amThe trolls better FEAR the Frogification of the US empire.
March 30th, 2008 at 12:09 amOddly, it still hasnt penetrated the thick-skulls of the trollips that Obama was attending a Christian church and not a mosque.
March 30th, 2008 at 12:10 amthe great and powerful FROG.
I’m more a fan of the great and powerful GROG.
March 30th, 2008 at 12:10 amLong Live Xenu!
March 30th, 2008 at 12:13 amThe trolls better FEAR the Frogification of the US empire.
Perhaps it’s the licking of the eucarist…
The Lord is Frog, and Kermit is his prophet…
March 30th, 2008 at 12:13 amWhat about the all powerful Ceiling Cat?
March 30th, 2008 at 12:14 amInstead of sheeple there shall be tadpoles!
March 30th, 2008 at 12:15 amThe Followers of Frog will leap with joy as the fruit of our fearsome leaders frognostications come to bear.
March 30th, 2008 at 12:15 amYes, GROG is real and it moves my spirit.
March 30th, 2008 at 12:16 amMaybe tadproles is more appropo.
Oh frogger it.
March 30th, 2008 at 12:16 amThe French shall be indeed humbled, for the blashemy of their cooking…
March 30th, 2008 at 12:17 amYea, and the prophet Kermit, arrayed in a wet suit of the finest Frog hair, did mount the Holy Lily Pad, and spake thusly:
March 30th, 2008 at 12:19 am“Bar-room”
http://www.neave.com/games/frogger/
March 30th, 2008 at 12:20 amPlease forgive this poor convert; religious fervor overcame my editing abilities, and I typed “blashemy,” when everyone knew I meant “yukiness.”
Apologies.
March 30th, 2008 at 12:22 amVery powerful comments and some even have links to other sites….the truth will out.
March 30th, 2008 at 12:23 amIn some circles the French are known as “FROGS”. I have no idea whether that relates to their religious convictions or their willingness to jump on anything.
March 30th, 2008 at 12:29 am“In some circles the French are known as “FROGS”.”
I believe that started back in Napoleons day, in reference to the uniform coats of Army officers, which had such long tails they were known as frog coats.
Or maybe I’m just imagining this.
March 30th, 2008 at 12:33 am[High frog]…And his will be done, on Earth, as it is on
Pee…Bee…Ess….
[choir] …Ri-i-bit…
March 30th, 2008 at 12:33 amNevar Says:
March 30th, 2008 at 12:33 am
“In some circles the French are known as “FROGS”.”
I believe that started back in Napoleons day, in reference to the uniform coats of Army officers, which had such long tails they were known as frog coats.
Or maybe I’m just imagining this.
Careful there Nevar, you’re approaching the fringe of reason.
March 30th, 2008 at 12:36 am…hey guys, I just got back from dinner and –
WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED IN HERE?
It looks like a goddamn cyclone hit the place. Did you kids have trolls over? How many times have I told you about having trolls over when I’m not around? Now who’s gonna clean up this mess?
Shayne?
gummitch?
barfly?
What do you have to say for yourselves?
March 30th, 2008 at 12:37 amAftr a while, the Kool-Aid is poisonous. The logic of the fools at Fox and the white house is really insanity.
March 30th, 2008 at 12:41 amjust don’t look in the closet, ralph, OK?
March 30th, 2008 at 12:42 amMarie Says:
March 30th, 2008 at 12:41 am
A few are still drinking the kool-aid and still standing. Just when you think they are done….of they go again. I just hope that the people are sober enough to let McCain fade into obscurity.
March 30th, 2008 at 12:48 amoff not of, sorry.
March 30th, 2008 at 12:49 amNevar Says:
March 30th, 2008 at 12:33 am
“In some circles the French are known as “FROGS”.”
I believe that started back in Napoleons day, in reference to the uniform coats of Army officers, which had such long tails they were known as frog coats.
Or maybe I’m just imagining this.
“Frogs” is short for “frog eaters.” Pertaining to the French penchant for the legs of zee froggies.
March 30th, 2008 at 12:55 amjb Says:
March 30th, 2008 at 12:49 am
off not of, sorry.
Flag the typoist!
No, seriously, apologizing for a typo? Relax.
March 30th, 2008 at 12:55 amHow can Wallace possibly know that, you can’t read or watch television and it is hard to hear when you nose is up Dubya’s ass.
March 30th, 2008 at 12:56 amIt really doesn’t matter anymore as this country is WAY beyond hope and redemption. The only thing worse than people believing this idiocy is that people who know better peddle it. This country is loaded with evil people in power.
March 30th, 2008 at 1:00 amralph the wonder llama Says:
March 30th, 2008 at 12:37 am
…hey guys, I just got back from dinner and –
WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED IN HERE?
Eat shorter dinners, Ralph. Sheesh.
Let me recap. Hmmm. First there was a really nasty “you libs are stupider than dirt” troll (probably CT). That one was whisked away. Then there was a sockpuppet troll trying to lure everyone over to a Mr P blog for hits. Whisked. And then, for about three comments, the troll known as The Joker, et al. That one lasted about three minutes. All in all, kudos to the staff at TP. It appears they hired a weekend shift on troll whisking duty.
March 30th, 2008 at 1:00 am“Frogs” is short for “frog eaters.” Pertaining to the French penchant for the legs of zee froggies.
Is that kosher?
March 30th, 2008 at 1:02 amTo see the current regime FROG marched off to jail would truly be a spiritually uplifting event.
March 30th, 2008 at 1:07 amNevar Says:
March 30th, 2008 at 1:02 am
“Frogs” is short for “frog eaters.” Pertaining to the French penchant for the legs of zee froggies.
Is that kosher?
I think so. Nothing in Leviticus about frogs. Unless they talk about one of the plagues visited on Egypt. Of course, it wouldn’t be a plague in France — unless the garlic had all dried up. Oh, that’s creepy. A plague of dead garlic!
March 30th, 2008 at 1:17 amWell, they don’t have cloven hooves… and they are tasty…
March 30th, 2008 at 1:24 amOh crap, ralph busted us for not cleaning up. You should have seen it before!
March 30th, 2008 at 1:39 am.
There’s a killin’ to be had at makin’ war!
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March 30th, 2008 at 1:49 amOf course it’s “good news”. Our soldiers are being given target practise, and diaperheads are being “terminated”. Ammo is beign expended, and businesses will be paid to replenish it. Wouldn’t any racist RWA Republican rejoice at such?
Cheers,
March 30th, 2008 at 2:27 amFrom Today’s NY Times:“Unfortunately we were expecting one thing but we saw something else,” said Ali Hussam, 48, a teacher, who said that after Saddam Hussein the people of Basra had hoped for peace. “But unfortunately with the presence of this new government and this democracy that was brought to us by the invader, it made us kill each other.”
“And the war is now BETWEEN US,” he said.
Bush has got America choosing sides, in an INTERNAL Iraqi Shiite civil conflict, while Al Qaeda plots the next 911 in the caves of Pakistan.
March 30th, 2008 at 7:31 am>What about the all powerful Ceiling Cat?
Beware.Ceiling Cat watches you masterturbate (without a warrant)
March 30th, 2008 at 9:26 amPatrick Cockburn, writing in the Independent:
The timing of this week’s attack may also be explained by the decision this month, at the prompting of US Vice-President Dick Cheney, on a visit to Baghdad, to hold provincial elections. The US aim was to allow the Sunnis, who boycotted the last polls in January 2005, to win control of their provinces. But elections also threatened the SIIC’s grip on councils in southern Iraq because the party has become increasingly unpopular and the Sadrists were EXPECTED to win at the polls.
That’s SIIC… as in the Supreme ISLAMIC Iraqi Council…that our troops are fighting for over there!
March 30th, 2008 at 9:52 amAnd remember folks, in Cheneys eyes, Basra is as good as it gets..a “sucess story”
Cheney says British Basra withdrawl is “sign of progress”
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=2891738
Make no mistake, this is a perfect example of the iraqi government not being able to stand up….Basra is supposed to be a model and yet they STILL need our help.
And now apparently the seige is stopping as soon as Sadr makes a vauge statement agreeing to play nice . Reports were that Mailiki was getting his @ss handed to him, so this is probably a way for the tough talking maliki to call off his disastrous campaign while saving face. THere was negotiations going on saturday night, somehow I wonder if maybe just maybe they involved another of our infamous “aid packages” to sadr..
How much longer are we going to keep paying for peace and calling it progress?
March 30th, 2008 at 10:06 am> That’s SIIC… as in the Supreme ISLAMIC Iraqi
> Council…that our troops are fighting for over there!
What do you expect from a bunch of wingnutters who are perfectly happy to send our soldiers to die so the iraqis can democratically choose to have a constition which says that “there shall be no law which contradicts islam”?
March 30th, 2008 at 10:08 amSo, what does Osama look like agian? The CHIMPS on the reich love the violence. It`s good for the WAR. These guys will do or say anything to deflect what is really going on or what is not going on with Osama Bin Hiding.
March 30th, 2008 at 10:11 amYes, the surge is working. It will guarnatee that American forces will be in Iraq longer than we can dream. After all, is this not what the surge was really supposed to do?
March 30th, 2008 at 10:15 amBush and the repigs are the wusses of the world, afraid to stand up to domestic terrorism in the form of oilmen stealing the people blind. the most pathertically treasonous administration in US history, and the least competent at anything but theft and mass-murder of innocents.
March 30th, 2008 at 12:05 pmMike Wallace must be wondering “Where the h*ll did I go wrong?!?!?”
Cheers,
March 30th, 2008 at 3:02 pmWell, I see Wallace is now completely back in the fold with Fox. It didn’t take him long to toe the line either.
March 30th, 2008 at 5:34 pmWallace is a news “commentator.” How is it that his comments on the workings of politics and war in Iraq have any credibility? He reads news! What bona fides give him the privilege of sounding like an expert on any of this stuff? We are mistaking face time on camera with the idea that this mouthpiece knows something.
March 31st, 2008 at 4:29 amHe said the Pentagon is looking for a way to deliver a strike against Iran “that would sohbet
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