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	<title>Comments on: Elizabeth Edwards: Americans Are &#8216;Left Outside The Clinic Doors&#8217; With McCain&#8217;s Health Care Plan</title>
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		<title>By: batteries</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/01/elizabeth-edwards-eakin/comment-page-2/#comment-5284724</link>
		<dc:creator>batteries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’ve said it before and will say it again. Competition in health care does NOT drive down costs. It escalates them. It’s an area that the “free market” should not be a controlling factor. Single-payer is the solution.

Exactly. It’s just the same old Republic rhetoric–competition, competition will drive prices down. Isn’t this what Reagan said about the airline industry (when you could fly round trip to europe for $300)?

And last time I looked there were lots of oil companies. Has that driven down the price of oil? And &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.batteryfast.com/sony/pcga-bp71.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sony pcga-bp71 battery&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.batteryfast.com/sony/pcga-bp71a.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sony pcga-bp71a battery&lt;/a&gt; the competion between the cable and satellite TV industries–how’s that working out for you, folks?

Republic dictionary definition: competition=greed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve said it before and will say it again. Competition in health care does NOT drive down costs. It escalates them. It’s an area that the “free market” should not be a controlling factor. Single-payer is the solution.</p>
<p>Exactly. It’s just the same old Republic rhetoric–competition, competition will drive prices down. Isn’t this what Reagan said about the airline industry (when you could fly round trip to europe for $300)?</p>
<p>And last time I looked there were lots of oil companies. Has that driven down the price of oil? And <a href="http://www.batteryfast.com/sony/pcga-bp71.htm" rel="nofollow">sony pcga-bp71 battery</a>,<a href="http://www.batteryfast.com/sony/pcga-bp71a.htm" rel="nofollow">sony pcga-bp71a battery</a> the competion between the cable and satellite TV industries–how’s that working out for you, folks?</p>
<p>Republic dictionary definition: competition=greed.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5284724', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Arctic Ghetto</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/01/elizabeth-edwards-eakin/comment-page-2/#comment-4940610</link>
		<dc:creator>Arctic Ghetto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 09:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain&#039;s health plan &quot;trickles down&quot; rubbing alcohol into the wound...in a shed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain&#8217;s health plan &#8220;trickles down&#8221; rubbing alcohol into the wound&#8230;in a shed.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4940610', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: PeiLi</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/01/elizabeth-edwards-eakin/comment-page-2/#comment-4819112</link>
		<dc:creator>PeiLi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 00:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to get off topic, but I look forward to Elizabeth Edwards blog comments on the state of Medicare and the supplemental insurance scam offered by many notable organizations including AARP.

And I&#039;m waiting for someone candidate or not to address what for me is the real issue, the overall cost of medical care.  But again there is a bigger picture.  When the medical industry in some areas is the major employer reforms could have a trickle down effect.  

Too bad John and Elizabeth are not in the White House, I think they&#039;re smart enough to figure it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to get off topic, but I look forward to Elizabeth Edwards blog comments on the state of Medicare and the supplemental insurance scam offered by many notable organizations including AARP.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m waiting for someone candidate or not to address what for me is the real issue, the overall cost of medical care.  But again there is a bigger picture.  When the medical industry in some areas is the major employer reforms could have a trickle down effect.  </p>
<p>Too bad John and Elizabeth are not in the White House, I think they&#8217;re smart enough to figure it out.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4819112', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: justanurse</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/01/elizabeth-edwards-eakin/comment-page-2/#comment-4697690</link>
		<dc:creator>justanurse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>99 Luf Balloons--  At least you have an idea.  The bottom line is that any and everything costs. I don&#039;t care how we pay the bill, as long as anyone who uses the system pays the price.  For those of you who think having &quot;free health care&quot; is the answer, your eyes may pop out your head when you see how fast we develop a significantly two tiered system.  That is the reality in any country with national health care.  Quality will utlimately suffer.  Medical professionals aren&#039;t all in it just for fun and to donate their time, though that is what non health care people feel they should be &quot;obligated&quot; to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>99 Luf Balloons&#8211;  At least you have an idea.  The bottom line is that any and everything costs. I don&#8217;t care how we pay the bill, as long as anyone who uses the system pays the price.  For those of you who think having &#8220;free health care&#8221; is the answer, your eyes may pop out your head when you see how fast we develop a significantly two tiered system.  That is the reality in any country with national health care.  Quality will utlimately suffer.  Medical professionals aren&#8217;t all in it just for fun and to donate their time, though that is what non health care people feel they should be &#8220;obligated&#8221; to do.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4697690', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: cybercitizen</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elizabeth puts herself out there for us--bless her! She&#039;s doing the heavy lifting for Hillary and Barack. They should be doing the heavy lifting on attacking McCain and keeping his numbers down.

McCain does not do his homework. He is gullible, rash, and simplistic....Like John Edwards said, McCain is &quot;George Bush on steroids.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth puts herself out there for us&#8211;bless her! She&#8217;s doing the heavy lifting for Hillary and Barack. They should be doing the heavy lifting on attacking McCain and keeping his numbers down.</p>
<p>McCain does not do his homework. He is gullible, rash, and simplistic&#8230;.Like John Edwards said, McCain is &#8220;George Bush on steroids.&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4694790', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: 99Luf Balloons</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/01/elizabeth-edwards-eakin/comment-page-2/#comment-4694088</link>
		<dc:creator>99Luf Balloons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 12:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>justanurse NOT mumbled:
&quot;We all need to get our priorities straight and quit asking someone else to pay the way. I propose that everyone should have to have proof of health insurance or a significant health care savings account before being able to apply for a loan of any sort or a credit card.&quot;

Here let me fix that for you.

We all need to get our priorities straight and quit asking the corporations to provide a god given right of health. I propose that everyone should have to have proof of paying INTO the Congressional healthcare system or Medicare, and outlaw ALL health insurance and health care savings accounts fore they are nothing but immoral vehicles to suck money from sick people, And proof of such should be provided before being able to register as a stupid fu(king Republican who believes that banks and credi companies should wnjoy protection when they take the RISK to give you a loan or a credit card. This is incorrect, and banks and credit companies are scumsucking pieces of shit, and deserver NO protection because THEY ARE CAPITALISTIC ventures and the market forces should prevail. Why do companies need the government to protect their investments or business dealings. Oh WAAA WAAA WAAA friggin WAAA. SHUT THE FU(K UP, YOU STUPID FU(KING WHORPORATE WHORE. Corporations should NOT be allowed to deduct their business expenses, thusly putting these personhood entities on par with the very HUMANS they need to step on to make their money. Fu(king scumsucking pigs.

There that fixes that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>justanurse NOT mumbled:<br />
&#8220;We all need to get our priorities straight and quit asking someone else to pay the way. I propose that everyone should have to have proof of health insurance or a significant health care savings account before being able to apply for a loan of any sort or a credit card.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here let me fix that for you.</p>
<p>We all need to get our priorities straight and quit asking the corporations to provide a god given right of health. I propose that everyone should have to have proof of paying INTO the Congressional healthcare system or Medicare, and outlaw ALL health insurance and health care savings accounts fore they are nothing but immoral vehicles to suck money from sick people, And proof of such should be provided before being able to register as a stupid fu(king Republican who believes that banks and credi companies should wnjoy protection when they take the RISK to give you a loan or a credit card. This is incorrect, and banks and credit companies are scumsucking pieces of shit, and deserver NO protection because THEY ARE CAPITALISTIC ventures and the market forces should prevail. Why do companies need the government to protect their investments or business dealings. Oh WAAA WAAA WAAA friggin WAAA. SHUT THE FU(K UP, YOU STUPID FU(KING WHORPORATE WHORE. Corporations should NOT be allowed to deduct their business expenses, thusly putting these personhood entities on par with the very HUMANS they need to step on to make their money. Fu(king scumsucking pigs.</p>
<p>There that fixes that.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4694088', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: 99Luf Balloons</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/01/elizabeth-edwards-eakin/comment-page-2/#comment-4693962</link>
		<dc:creator>99Luf Balloons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 12:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, while the two &quot;Dem Contenders&quot; are having the battle of the preachers, the true fight for America is left to severely sick woman. How despicable of the Dems to allow McCain to get away with all this bullshit. I don&#039;t expect the Repulotraitors of anything less, but the dems need to get over this fight and get on with the show. HOWARD do something. Kick Hilary to the curb already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, while the two &#8220;Dem Contenders&#8221; are having the battle of the preachers, the true fight for America is left to severely sick woman. How despicable of the Dems to allow McCain to get away with all this bullshit. I don&#8217;t expect the Repulotraitors of anything less, but the dems need to get over this fight and get on with the show. HOWARD do something. Kick Hilary to the curb already.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4693962', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: woodguy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 06:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NURSERATCHET @55, 

With all due respect, no need to shout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NURSERATCHET @55, </p>
<p>With all due respect, no need to shout.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4689544', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: NURSERATCHET</title>
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		<dc:creator>NURSERATCHET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 05:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>justanurse, A NURSE HAS AN OBLIGATION AS A PATIENT ADVOCATE NOT JUDGE AND JURY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>justanurse, A NURSE HAS AN OBLIGATION AS A PATIENT ADVOCATE NOT JUDGE AND JURY!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4689096', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: NURSERATCHET</title>
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		<dc:creator>NURSERATCHET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 05:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BRAVO! ELIZABETH!  I HAVE BEEN FIGHTING THE INSURANCE COMPANY SYSTEM FOR 35 YEARS. OUR YOUNGEST SON, OUR FOURTH, WAS DIAGNOSED AT 19 MONTHS WITH AUTISM.  THERE WERE NO &quot;PUBLIC SCHOOL&quot; FACILITIES FOR HIM AND PRIVATE MONTESSORI TYPE SCHOOLS WERE FINANCIALLY OUT OF OUR RANGE. OUR HEALTH INSURANCE WOULD NOT PAY FOR THE EARLY CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT CLASSES HE NEEDED TO PROGRESS. I DID HIS THERAPY AT HOME UNTIL THE PASSAGE OF PL 142. HE WILL BE 36 SOON AND IS NOW ON S.S. BUT I STILL HAVE TO FIGHT FOR EVERY LITTLE THING FOR HIM. AMERICANS NEED HELP BADLY!  IT IS DESPERATE OUT HERE! THANKS FOR TAKING A STAND ELIZABETH.  YOU AND JOHN ARE A GREAT TEAM. HAPPY TO SEE YOU ARE WELL AND ABLE TO FIGHT ON!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BRAVO! ELIZABETH!  I HAVE BEEN FIGHTING THE INSURANCE COMPANY SYSTEM FOR 35 YEARS. OUR YOUNGEST SON, OUR FOURTH, WAS DIAGNOSED AT 19 MONTHS WITH AUTISM.  THERE WERE NO &#8220;PUBLIC SCHOOL&#8221; FACILITIES FOR HIM AND PRIVATE MONTESSORI TYPE SCHOOLS WERE FINANCIALLY OUT OF OUR RANGE. OUR HEALTH INSURANCE WOULD NOT PAY FOR THE EARLY CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT CLASSES HE NEEDED TO PROGRESS. I DID HIS THERAPY AT HOME UNTIL THE PASSAGE OF PL 142. HE WILL BE 36 SOON AND IS NOW ON S.S. BUT I STILL HAVE TO FIGHT FOR EVERY LITTLE THING FOR HIM. AMERICANS NEED HELP BADLY!  IT IS DESPERATE OUT HERE! THANKS FOR TAKING A STAND ELIZABETH.  YOU AND JOHN ARE A GREAT TEAM. HAPPY TO SEE YOU ARE WELL AND ABLE TO FIGHT ON!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4689044', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: curmudgeon</title>
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		<dc:creator>curmudgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 02:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: justanurse 

This must be the nurse I heard about who keeps their patients&#039; bedpans in the freezer just prior to use, or played one of the shadowy roles in the movie &quot;Coma.&quot;

Or, perhaps on only a slightly more comforting note, perhaps Nurse Mildred Rached in &quot;One Flew Over the Cuckoo&#039;s Nest&quot; was not just a fictional character...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: justanurse </p>
<p>This must be the nurse I heard about who keeps their patients&#8217; bedpans in the freezer just prior to use, or played one of the shadowy roles in the movie &#8220;Coma.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or, perhaps on only a slightly more comforting note, perhaps Nurse Mildred Rached in &#8220;One Flew Over the Cuckoo&#8217;s Nest&#8221; was not just a fictional character&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4687018', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: woodguy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>justanurse Says: 
April 1st, 2008 at 7:49 pm 
By the sound of the comments, it appears that not many health care workers have time to play on this site. For fifteen years I have been involved in the care of “unfortunate people who can’t afford health care.” A classic example: 30 year old construction worker, laid off in winter, drives a new truck, has a 10,000 dollar snowmobile, feeds both gas guzzlers without a problem, can afford to buy adequate booze to get hammered, then accidentally tests how fast the sled can go from 80 to zero. Poor poor man. He got major surgery, weeks of hospital time, months of rehab. Cost to him? Zip zero nadda.
We all need to get our priorities straight and quit asking someone else to pay the way. I propose that everyone should have to have proof of health insurance or a significant health care savings account before being able to apply for a loan of any sort or a credit card. Perhaps then we would all make our health care the priority everyone claims it is. We would have to make choices such as type of vehicle or homes. If this were the case then consumers would be more selective about what is NEEDED and what is WANTED, especially in health care. Finally the laws of supply and demand could even things out.
Stop blaming others for the situation and step up to the plate guys.

Wow. You can tell all that about a patient from his chart? What kind of truck he drives and what gas mileage it gets? How much he drinks? You must be one clairvoyant nurse. Or a liar, one of the two. Hmmm, I choose the latter.</description>
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April 1st, 2008 at 7:49 pm<br />
By the sound of the comments, it appears that not many health care workers have time to play on this site. For fifteen years I have been involved in the care of “unfortunate people who can’t afford health care.” A classic example: 30 year old construction worker, laid off in winter, drives a new truck, has a 10,000 dollar snowmobile, feeds both gas guzzlers without a problem, can afford to buy adequate booze to get hammered, then accidentally tests how fast the sled can go from 80 to zero. Poor poor man. He got major surgery, weeks of hospital time, months of rehab. Cost to him? Zip zero nadda.<br />
We all need to get our priorities straight and quit asking someone else to pay the way. I propose that everyone should have to have proof of health insurance or a significant health care savings account before being able to apply for a loan of any sort or a credit card. Perhaps then we would all make our health care the priority everyone claims it is. We would have to make choices such as type of vehicle or homes. If this were the case then consumers would be more selective about what is NEEDED and what is WANTED, especially in health care. Finally the laws of supply and demand could even things out.<br />
Stop blaming others for the situation and step up to the plate guys.</p>
<p>Wow. You can tell all that about a patient from his chart? What kind of truck he drives and what gas mileage it gets? How much he drinks? You must be one clairvoyant nurse. Or a liar, one of the two. Hmmm, I choose the latter.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4686394', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>justanurse
You&#039;re not a nurse.....I have my doubts whether you are even human.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>justanurse<br />
You&#8217;re not a nurse&#8230;..I have my doubts whether you are even human.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4685958', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: curmudgeon</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: comment #35 -- 

Great point.  Yes, trolls, the next time you stop at the gas pump, tell the attendant that you won&#039;t make a purchase unless they beat the lowest price in town and see what kind of response you receive.  And absolutely refuse to make a purchase unless they &quot;play ball&quot; with you.  

And then, just for fun, extend this policy to all other areas, such as your phone bill, gas service, cigarettes, beer, groceries, mortgage payment, insurance coverage, etc.  

The 1960s era television series &quot;Candid Camera&quot; could fill a whole season with scenarios such as the above.

Entrepreneurs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: comment #35 &#8212; </p>
<p>Great point.  Yes, trolls, the next time you stop at the gas pump, tell the attendant that you won&#8217;t make a purchase unless they beat the lowest price in town and see what kind of response you receive.  And absolutely refuse to make a purchase unless they &#8220;play ball&#8221; with you.  </p>
<p>And then, just for fun, extend this policy to all other areas, such as your phone bill, gas service, cigarettes, beer, groceries, mortgage payment, insurance coverage, etc.  </p>
<p>The 1960s era television series &#8220;Candid Camera&#8221; could fill a whole season with scenarios such as the above.</p>
<p>Entrepreneurs?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4685774', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: curmudgeon</title>
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		<dc:creator>curmudgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s say you have a pre-existing condition (e.g., Type II diabetes) and, in the spirit of competition, send out bids for insurance companies to provide you with a certain package of healthcare benefits and wait for the results to arrive. You will die of old age waiting for your first response.  

If McCain truly means what he says, why doesn&#039;t he forgo taxpayer-funded healthcare insurance and go it on his own?  And conceal his identity and income when applying for coverage, publishing the results of his efforts for all to see.  His income last year was $3.9 million, so if he couldn&#039;t find any takers, he could more easily afford to self-insure than 99.9% of his fellow citizens.  

Competition does not truly exist when little vital information is available.  So, quickly, off the top of your head, what is a colonoscopy going for these days?  Is that with or without sedation?  Which gastroenterologist has the best track record for identifying tumors (especially those that are flush or nearly flush with the inner wall of the colon)?  Which doc is willing to allow you time to go under sedation before commencing with the procedure or if you regain consciousness during the procedure (a painful experience), is willing to provide you with additional sedation (which may mean that you tie up a bed in the recovery room for a few additional minutes)?  Where do you find a reliable medical equivalent to &quot;Consumer Reports&quot;?

Oh, yes, and then there&#039;s the matter of locating medical care following an emergency.  For example, let&#039;s say that your child (or grandchild) falls, cutting themselves badly.  Do you rush to the nearest physician&#039;s office, urgent care clinic or emergency room?  What about the competition aspect?  Perhaps you could send out a broadcast text message to all available providers, informing them that you&#039;ll take your loved one to the lowest bidder?  

For those who claim that market forces can fix everything, please provide some definite answers regarding the above-cited questions for all of us to consider.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s say you have a pre-existing condition (e.g., Type II diabetes) and, in the spirit of competition, send out bids for insurance companies to provide you with a certain package of healthcare benefits and wait for the results to arrive. You will die of old age waiting for your first response.  </p>
<p>If McCain truly means what he says, why doesn&#8217;t he forgo taxpayer-funded healthcare insurance and go it on his own?  And conceal his identity and income when applying for coverage, publishing the results of his efforts for all to see.  His income last year was $3.9 million, so if he couldn&#8217;t find any takers, he could more easily afford to self-insure than 99.9% of his fellow citizens.  </p>
<p>Competition does not truly exist when little vital information is available.  So, quickly, off the top of your head, what is a colonoscopy going for these days?  Is that with or without sedation?  Which gastroenterologist has the best track record for identifying tumors (especially those that are flush or nearly flush with the inner wall of the colon)?  Which doc is willing to allow you time to go under sedation before commencing with the procedure or if you regain consciousness during the procedure (a painful experience), is willing to provide you with additional sedation (which may mean that you tie up a bed in the recovery room for a few additional minutes)?  Where do you find a reliable medical equivalent to &#8220;Consumer Reports&#8221;?</p>
<p>Oh, yes, and then there&#8217;s the matter of locating medical care following an emergency.  For example, let&#8217;s say that your child (or grandchild) falls, cutting themselves badly.  Do you rush to the nearest physician&#8217;s office, urgent care clinic or emergency room?  What about the competition aspect?  Perhaps you could send out a broadcast text message to all available providers, informing them that you&#8217;ll take your loved one to the lowest bidder?  </p>
<p>For those who claim that market forces can fix everything, please provide some definite answers regarding the above-cited questions for all of us to consider.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4685452', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: justanurse</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/01/elizabeth-edwards-eakin/comment-page-1/#comment-4684082</link>
		<dc:creator>justanurse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the sound of the comments, it appears that not many health care workers have time to play on this site.  For fifteen years I have been involved in the care of &quot;unfortunate people who can&#039;t afford health care.&quot;  A classic example:  30 year old construction worker, laid off in winter, drives a new truck, has a 10,000 dollar snowmobile, feeds both gas guzzlers without a problem, can afford to buy adequate booze to get hammered, then accidentally tests how fast the sled can go from 80 to zero.  Poor poor man.  He got major surgery, weeks of hospital time, months of rehab.  Cost to him?  Zip zero nadda.
     We all need to get our priorities straight and quit asking someone else to pay the way.  I propose that everyone should have to have proof of health insurance or a significant health care savings account before being able to apply for a loan of any sort or a credit card.  Perhaps then we would all make our health care the priority everyone claims it is.  We would have to make choices such as type of vehicle or homes.  If this were the case then consumers would be more selective about what is NEEDED and what is WANTED, especially in health care.  Finally the laws of supply and demand could even things out.
     Stop blaming others for the situation and step up to the plate guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the sound of the comments, it appears that not many health care workers have time to play on this site.  For fifteen years I have been involved in the care of &#8220;unfortunate people who can&#8217;t afford health care.&#8221;  A classic example:  30 year old construction worker, laid off in winter, drives a new truck, has a 10,000 dollar snowmobile, feeds both gas guzzlers without a problem, can afford to buy adequate booze to get hammered, then accidentally tests how fast the sled can go from 80 to zero.  Poor poor man.  He got major surgery, weeks of hospital time, months of rehab.  Cost to him?  Zip zero nadda.<br />
     We all need to get our priorities straight and quit asking someone else to pay the way.  I propose that everyone should have to have proof of health insurance or a significant health care savings account before being able to apply for a loan of any sort or a credit card.  Perhaps then we would all make our health care the priority everyone claims it is.  We would have to make choices such as type of vehicle or homes.  If this were the case then consumers would be more selective about what is NEEDED and what is WANTED, especially in health care.  Finally the laws of supply and demand could even things out.<br />
     Stop blaming others for the situation and step up to the plate guys.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4684082', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shayne</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/01/elizabeth-edwards-eakin/comment-page-1/#comment-4682468</link>
		<dc:creator>Shayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw that Fred.  I&#039;m still waiting for the troll to tell us what kind of insurance he has.  Well Right Stuff?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw that Fred.  I&#8217;m still waiting for the troll to tell us what kind of insurance he has.  Well Right Stuff?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4682468', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/01/elizabeth-edwards-eakin/comment-page-1/#comment-4682330</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shayne, click on right stuffs link and click on the link on the left that say policy issues.......read thier mission statement.



&lt;blockquote&gt;The NCPA&#039;s mission is to seek innovative private-sector solutions to public policy problems. By using innovative and unique approaches to these problems, the NCPA encourages individual rights, free enterprise and self-government.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shayne, click on right stuffs link and click on the link on the left that say policy issues&#8230;&#8230;.read thier mission statement.</p>
<blockquote><p>The NCPA&#8217;s mission is to seek innovative private-sector solutions to public policy problems. By using innovative and unique approaches to these problems, the NCPA encourages individual rights, free enterprise and self-government.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: NOLIESPLEASE</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/01/elizabeth-edwards-eakin/comment-page-1/#comment-4682244</link>
		<dc:creator>NOLIESPLEASE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>US SYSTEM = Family of 4 coverage $12,500 per year. 

Canadian System = Family of 4 Coverage $1600 per year based on a income of $50,000 per year. The payments are automatically deducted from your pay. If you don&#039;t work, you don&#039;t pay, but you still get full coverage. 

How do i know this, I&#039;m Canadian. I have never had to fill out a form for health care. In my 44 years in this country, I have never had to speak to a government represenative about health care. I just book an appointment with my doctor. If she is not in , I go to the emergancy room. COST $0. 

You (Americans) are corporate slaves. Don&#039;t be fooled about higher taxes. The differences between our taxes and yours, WE GET SOMETHING IN RETURN FOR THE TAXES WE (CANADIANS)PAY. 

Is human dignity more important than any insurance companies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>US SYSTEM = Family of 4 coverage $12,500 per year. </p>
<p>Canadian System = Family of 4 Coverage $1600 per year based on a income of $50,000 per year. The payments are automatically deducted from your pay. If you don&#8217;t work, you don&#8217;t pay, but you still get full coverage. </p>
<p>How do i know this, I&#8217;m Canadian. I have never had to fill out a form for health care. In my 44 years in this country, I have never had to speak to a government represenative about health care. I just book an appointment with my doctor. If she is not in , I go to the emergancy room. COST $0. </p>
<p>You (Americans) are corporate slaves. Don&#8217;t be fooled about higher taxes. The differences between our taxes and yours, WE GET SOMETHING IN RETURN FOR THE TAXES WE (CANADIANS)PAY. </p>
<p>Is human dignity more important than any insurance companies?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4682244', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shayne</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/01/elizabeth-edwards-eakin/comment-page-1/#comment-4682240</link>
		<dc:creator>Shayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The_Right_Stuff Says:
April 1st, 2008 at 4:00 pm

The United States has survival rates of 90 percent or higher for five cancers (skin melanoma, breast, prostate, thyroid and testicular), but there is only one cancer for which the European survival rate reaches 90 percent (testicular).

http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba/ba596/

Why do we want to drag ourselves down to their level?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You quote The Lancet but your figures are off selected pages from different years garnered by your &quot;think tank&quot;.  What kind of insurance do you have?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The_Right_Stuff Says:<br />
April 1st, 2008 at 4:00 pm</p>
<p>The United States has survival rates of 90 percent or higher for five cancers (skin melanoma, breast, prostate, thyroid and testicular), but there is only one cancer for which the European survival rate reaches 90 percent (testicular).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba/ba596/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba/ba596/</a></p>
<p>Why do we want to drag ourselves down to their level?</p></blockquote>
<p>You quote The Lancet but your figures are off selected pages from different years garnered by your &#8220;think tank&#8221;.  What kind of insurance do you have?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4682240', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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