In his new Vanity Fair piece on torture, international lawyer Philippe Sands interviews former Pentagon official Doug Feith, who “played a major role in developing the interrogation policy for Guantanamo Bay.” Feith tells Sands that he shouldn’t be concerned with torture and America’s “moral authority,” because then he is “siding with the assholes“:
“This year I was really a player,” Feith said, thinking back on 2002 and relishing the memory. I asked him whether, in the end, he was at all concerned that the Geneva decision might have diminished America’s moral authority. He was not. “The problem with moral authority,” he said, was “people who should know better, like yourself, siding with the assholes, to put it crudely.”
Does Feith therefore think Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) is an “asshole”?
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Only *ssholes would defend the *ssholes who support torture.
April 2nd, 2008 at 6:10 pmWell, I proudly proclaim myself to be an @sshole. By torturing our enemy, we have gone down a very slippery slope and given up any moral authority we ever had.
Just wait until there is news that one of our soldiers was captured and tortured by the insurgents. You will hear howls of protests from the right. Then we will have to ask them, “why is it OK for us to torture but not ok for them to torture”.
If I was a parent of a child in the military today, I would be terrified for my child and angry beyond words at my government for making torture acceptable.
April 2nd, 2008 at 6:13 pmAnd of course we all know what Gen. Tommy Franks called Dougie Feith, right kids?
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:04 pmConsidering His and George Bush’s concern for torture in Iraq was a justification for invading them, is Feith admitting that both he and GW are assholes or hypocrites? It’s so difficult to tell with Republicans! ;) ROTFL!!
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:04 pmthey’re both assholes
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:04 pmI wonder how Douggie “Faith” would answer that question while strapped to a board with water gushing over his face.
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:05 pm“@ssholes”? Everyones got one, it’s just that Feith is a huge one (as are the trolls).
So most of Americans are @assholes because we KNOW that TORTURE is immoral, illegal, and just old UNAMERICAN is that what you’re saying Feith the @SSHOLE?
Man I do so just can’t fking stand Fascists NeoCon @SSHOLES.
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:06 pmvoalse Says:
- - Nothing further on this board, is my guess.
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:09 pmPlease Ban Voalse’s IP.
by the way V - The Closeted Repukes need the Levitra/Viagra/Xanax, so you’re on the wrong site to advertise that stuff.
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:09 pmThere may be something I like about the Military Commissions Act.
Read the article. At the end of the article he quickly mentions a discussion with a EU judge and prosecutor and they both felt the MCA provides a big legal opening for other nations to make the argument to try these people in other countries because we have immunized them from prosecution in our country.
“‘That is very stupid,’ said the prosecutor, explaining that it would make it much easier for investigators outside the United States to argue that possible war crimes would never be addressed by the justice system in the home country—one of the trip wires enabling foreign courts to intervene.”
We can only hope true justice will be done.
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:11 pmThe Closeted Repukes need the Levitra/Viagra/Xanax, so you’re on the wrong site to advertise that stuff.
And anyway, this blog is about the rear of the torso.
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:13 pmBadmoodman, and what goes on in the rear of the torso? You would know being a republican, now wouldn’t ya? When was the last time you tapped your toes in an airport bathroom stall?
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:16 pmGo figure! Everyone that ever called me an @sshole was right!
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:16 pmWhen people like Richard Clarke shake their heads over Feith’s intelligence, this just confirms it.
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:20 pmUh, KayInMe, Badmoodman isn’t a reichwinger…
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:21 pmThe stupidest freaking person in the world is calling someone an a-hole?
As Five Deferment Dick said, “So?”
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:26 pmBadmoodman, and what goes on in the rear of the torso? You would know being a republican, now wouldn’t ya? When was the last time you tapped your toes in an airport bathroom stall?
- - Ahem, in my best Strother Martin impersonation, “What we have here….is a failure…to communicate.”
Hat tip, RU.
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:29 pmThese neocon policy makers astound me with their open, in your face middle finger. This is the first administration to do this, as far as I know. Not even Nixon did this. The obvious hate and anger they express is simply a cover for the massive feelings of inadequacy they feel. I suspect the hidden envy of those who are truly “men” and are brave, must eat them alive even as it drives the chicken hawks to “play soldier” from the safety of their contrived deferment.
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:29 pmThese disgusting pigs aren’t even attempting to polish the turds which they are. They’re disgusting demons obsessed with personal power and flagrant disrespect for anything resembling morality, truth, and what used to be the American Way. They’re the largest group of Anti-Americans we have.
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:32 pmToo bad that the chickenhawks that support torture don’t have the guts to put themselves in a situation that might possibly lead to being tortured.
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:32 pmAhhhhhhhhh
So the mask falls off, finally.
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:33 pmdumbstruck: The universe (karma) has a way of catching up with evil doers like Doug Feith. I suspect that he will someday experience some of his own Feith-based torture techniques firsthand. And what sweet justice that will be.
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:33 pmThe mask falls off and guess who’s under it: Lucifer himself!
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:34 pmYup. “The dumbest SOB I’ve ever met”.
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:34 pmNo problem Cool Hand BMM…
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:34 pmRUCerious Says:
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:21 pm
Uh, KayInMe, Badmoodman isn’t a reichwinger…
Oh. I thought he was insinuating that this blog is a gay blog. My mistake. LOL ;-)
Sorry Badmoodman! Ooopsie-do.
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:36 pmBadmoodman Says:
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:04 pm
And of course we all know what Gen. Tommy Franks called Dougie Feith, right kids?
Yup “The dumbest SOB I’ve ever met”. There, fixed #24.
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:37 pmThese neocon policy makers astound me with their open, in your face middle finger.
These goobers are predisposed to this kind of behavior. Remember who recruited/appointed them — they aren’t the sharpest knives in the drawer to begin with. Then, consider their role model for success. After all, GDumbya poked the whole world in the eye with a sharp stick when he started his dirty little avoidable war in Iraq. So all these former (and current) minions continue to emulate him.
This is all very predictable . . . and sad.
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:39 pmArrogance, hubris and a few other qualities that I’d better not get into.
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:42 pmWood: And of course we all know what Gen. Tommy Franks called Dougie Feith, right kids?
- - Yup “The dumbest SOB I’ve ever met”. There, fixed #24.
- - Actually, Franks wasn’t that kind. Substitute the “F-bomb” for SOB and you’ve got it.
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:46 pmI’d really like to hear what information Sibel Edmunds has about Feith (who btw is or was a PNAC member9
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:55 pmtom Says:
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Remember who recruited/appointed them — they aren’t the sharpest knives in the drawer to begin with. Then, consider their role model for success.
We agree on the result, but I differ in who is leading whom. I believe that the true policy makers are the neocons like Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Perle, Armitage, Kristol, Krauthammer, Feith, etc. Bush was chosen by them and he follows their marching orders, not the other way around. Bush is not a neocon in reality. He is a dry drunk failure that is no more than a sock puppet for the neocons. He is truly sick, as his hypocritical “belief” in christianity shows, with, as Justin Frank has shown in his book “Bush on the Couch,” megalomania. His delusions of grandure exude from his every utterance. His grasp of reality is missing as is evidenced almost daily in his public remarks.
So, no. Bush is not the role model for these neocon criminals. They are his master.
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:56 pmThen Feith and the whole Cheney-Bush gang should be very concerned!
April 2nd, 2008 at 8:11 pmMr. Dual Citizenship Feith has much bigger problems than this one.
April 2nd, 2008 at 8:40 pm“America did not invent human rights. In a very real sense human rights invented America.”
“Human rights is the soul of our foreign policy, because human rights is the very soul of our sense of nationhood.”
“It is difficult for the common good to prevail against the intense concentration of those who have a special interest, especially if the decisions are made behind locked doors. ”
“Republicans are men of narrow vision, who are afraid of the future. ”
“The best way to enhance freedom in other lands is to demonstrate here that our democratic system is worthy of emulation.”
-Jimmy “@sshole” Carter
April 2nd, 2008 at 9:01 pmAh, torture American style! Another Feith-based initiative!
April 2nd, 2008 at 9:10 pmThis prick, Yoo and Addington all deserve the business end of a noose…effing traitors! No quick drop either…let ‘em hang long and slowlike. I hope the war crime trials will be televised.
Why are you holding my comment,TP. Because I use the word A#$HOLE. I figured since you used it first it was O.K.
April 2nd, 2008 at 9:21 pmNow when the other countries apply the Bush/Cheney torture Policy to US soldiers and Americans let’s see how Feith thinks then. It’s seems so easy for Americans to accept what the White House is doing yet when it’s done to Americans you’ll hear the out cry loud and clear. What goes around comes around.
April 2nd, 2008 at 9:23 pmAgain to quote Dark Helmet…”I knew it,I’m surrounded by @ssholes…Keep firing @ssholes!” I guess true patriots are @ssholes now? There is that better?
April 2nd, 2008 at 9:33 pmRepublicans are afraid indeed.
April 2nd, 2008 at 9:34 pmWhen it comes to taking a substantive stand on torture, the only person McCain really seems concerned about being tortured is himself.
-AF
Andrew Sullivan Is A Fraud
April 2nd, 2008 at 9:42 pmBadmoodman Says:
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:46 pm
Wood: And of course we all know what Gen. Tommy Franks called Dougie Feith, right kids?
- - Yup “The dumbest SOB I’ve ever met”. There, fixed #24.
- - Actually, Franks wasn’t that kind. Substitute the “F-bomb” for SOB and you’ve got it.
Thanks Badmoonman,
It seemed a little askew when I responded. Accuracy counts, thanks.
April 2nd, 2008 at 10:13 pmBadmoodman…you are now the *butt* of a joke. :-D
April 2nd, 2008 at 10:33 pmI’d like to see Feith go through 54 days of torture like detainee #063. And say we shouldn’t be concerned about Torture.
April 2nd, 2008 at 10:46 pmHe’s a Pharisee. Wow what a nut.
April 3rd, 2008 at 7:48 amHis Office of Special Plans cooked up the bad intelligence, resulting in 1,104,000 deaths. Stick a red hot poker up his and see if it concerns him.
April 3rd, 2008 at 1:05 pmWhoops … my paragraph breaks evaporated. Sorry.
April 3rd, 2008 at 2:22 pmThat’s one of the dumbest and most morally contemptible statement I’ve ever heard uttered by someone who has worked for a president…and that is saying a LOT. No wonder Tommy Franks called him the “dumbest human being I’ve ever met”
April 3rd, 2008 at 6:37 pm