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Gregory: Bush ‘didn’t jump to invade Iraq’ after 9/11.»

Yesterday, on MSNBC’s Hardball, David Gregory exonerated President Bush for his misguided invasion of Iraq, saying there’s “not a lot of argument” that Bush “had the right response to 9/11.” Gregory commended Bush for not immediately “jump[ing] to invade Iraq” and instead waiting until March 2003 to do so:

If [Obama] talks about what you do in response to a crisis, either you have the right intelligence and you have the right response. Well, there’s not a lot of argument that Bush had the right response to 9/11. He didn’t jump to invade Iraq even though there was some argument that he should do that in the room.

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70 Responses to “Gregory: Bush ‘didn’t jump to invade Iraq’ after 9/11.”

  1. robbez_92107 Says:

    The librul media strikes again!


  2. RUCerious Says:

    Uh, Davey, you haven’t read about the fact that he’d mentioned invading Iraq BEFORE 9/11??


  3. RUCerious Says:

    David, why didn’t he attack Saudi Arabia?


  4. hellinabucket Says:

    Initially there wasn’t a great outrage for our response to Afghanistan. Iraq had more question marks than the Riddler’s outfit on Batman.


  5. WaltTheMan Says:

    Quick, give this man an EEG - he appears brain dead - call in Doctor Frisk!


  6. McWars Says:

    Talk about an indirect shilling for McCain.

    Turn around, Gregory. That’s where Obama’s going to be working some long nights and sleeping very little to put this country back in order.


  7. Shayne Says:

    Bush couldn’t attack Iraq until he escorted the bin Laden family and all his other Saudi friends out of the country. He had to make sure to keep the cash flow going to the terrorists to justify his never ending war.


  8. ForTruth Says:

    Sure Davey, I saw you at the Presidential dinner being a suck up when Rove Rapped.


  9. RUCerious Says:

    Sucking at the teat of Power. Price? Your integrity.


  10. raynman Says:

    He couldn’t do it because the Congress hadn’t rolled over and played dead yet…


  11. A Patriot Acting Says:

    Gregory also misses the major point that there was no credible justification for actualy invading Iraq and pulling our troops out of Afghanistan. He also neglects to mention all the plans that Bush made for going into Iraq before 9/11 even happened. Or that his Administration went on a cherry picking expedition right after 9/11 to justify invading Iraq.


  12. Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:

    Something evil happened to David Gregory the night he danced with Karl Rove. It’s like Rove’s evil spirit reached out and grabbed David Gregory.

    It makes no sense what Gregory is doing. How can he think it is a good idea to align himself with Bush at a time when it’s pretty apparent that the Republicans are going to lose their power.


  13. Badmoodman Says:

    Instead of filed under “Iraq” shouldn’t this be under “Braindead Media”?


  14. Zimzone Says:

    I used to have a little respect for Gregory.

    That was then, this is now…


  15. sashimi Says:

    first, getting cozy with GWB, then dancing with Rove-or without- nowhe’s got he’s own show. Ah ha!! disgusting.


  16. hussein toasterhead Says:

    RUCerious Says:
    April 3rd, 2008 at 3:15 pm
    Uh, Davey, you haven’t read about the fact that he’d mentioned invading Iraq BEFORE 9/11??

    ______

    And that the neocons had been planting the forged evidence of Iraq seeking uranium in Niger before Bush was even inaugurated…


  17. kindness Says:

    Look—the dictionary. It has a new definition for “Dumb Mother Fuc**r”. And it even includes a picture of David Gregory. Geez, he sure looks dumb…


  18. Keltoi Says:

    Wow…what the heck has got into him? That is not like him at all, I have heard him being very critical of Bush and very combative when he was WH press for MSNBC. He has his own show now….could that be the cause?


  19. Wayne Says:

    After reading all of the threads today, I have come to the conclusion that Republican stupidity and dishonesty knows no bounds.

    That includes Republican pundits, reporters, representatives and the dumb f_cks that vote Republican.


  20. fletc3her Says:

    While invading Afghanistan may have been the “right” response to 9/11, the job was never completed. Osama bin Laden is still on the loose. We’ve been told time and again he’s somewhere in the hills of Tora Bora in Afghanistan or nearby in Pakistan.

    We’re told that we shouldn’t rush things in the Iraq war. That five years is not too long to wage this battle. The “surge” alone is going to last for longer than a year. But, somehow, eighteen months was deemed plenty long to attempt to bring those who committed the worst terrorist attack on U.S. soil to justice.

    I admire results. Bush has zero. He cannot defend our country. He cannot prosecute those who attacked our country. He cannot respond to natural disasters here at home. He cannot manage the budget. He cannot manage the financial and housing markets. He cannot even successfully accomplish the goals he set out in his war of choice.


  21. pete Says:

    To be fair, it takes some time to fabricate 935 lies.


  22. jpopphan Says:

    Let me get this straight: He’s “commending” Bush for not invading Iraq immediately after 9/11? Given that there was (and still is) ZERO evidence that Saddam Hussein or anyone else in Iraq had anything to do with the 9/11 attacks, why the hell should Bush have invaded? Hell, I still can’t find a justifiable reason for him to invade Iraq in 2003!

    Give me a break. MSNBC really made a mistake giving Gregory his own show.


  23. hanshiro Says:

    I could barely understand Gregory, what with his lips firmly glued to bush’s @ss….


  24. Tired Of Fighting Says:

    Stick to dancing David and leave the reporting thing to the pros, ooh you are a pro, yea a prostitute for the BFEE.

    Idiot.

    RIP
    SGT Stephen R. Sherman
    C CO 1-5 In (STRYKER)
    KIA 3 Fenb 2005
    Mosul, Iraq


  25. stewarjt Says:

    Why would the US go to war with Iraq after 9/11? They weren’t involved in attacking the US! The numb nuts deserves credit for that?


  26. Uosdwis Says:

    Didn’t Rachel rebut?

    This is the ruining of another semi-legitimate fact-gathering reporter by making him pontificate to fill up time, just like Schuster.


  27. misshusseinmolly Says:

    What in the world is the “right” way to invade another country in the wake of being attacked — if this country had nothing to do with the attack?

    Well, to do it “right”, you have to manufacture some evidence that an attack is warranted, you have to conflate this country with the attackers convincingly enough to sway America to your side, and you have to get the support of Congress — none of which can be done overnight.

    Bush was successful in getting Iraq invaded. But it can be argued that invading Iraq, destabilizing that country and getting stuck in the resulting quagmire, exhausting the goodwill of the rest of the world, breaking our military, borrowing heavily from China, not capturing OBL, and allowing Al Qaeda to flourish wasn’t the “right” response.


  28. paleolib Says:

    Perhaps he is polishing the nob in anticipation of his next job working as a docent at the Bush LIEberry. As for his “restraint in waiting a whole year and a half to invade Iraq:

    1) His defense department and the OVP were packed with PNAC signatories who openly advocated regime change in Iraq long before 9/11.

    2) He allowed troops to rotate out of Afghanistan prematurely to prepare for an Iraqi invasion thus allowing Al Qaeda leaders to escape Tora Bora.

    3) He needed the time leading up to the invasion to spin the myth that Iraq was a danger to the U.S. because no evidence supported a link between Saddam and 9/11.

    Since Gregory is not a complete idiot I am assuming his argument is that Bush somehow gains credibility by not attacking Iraq immediately when we know from Richard Clarke’s book that on 9/12 a number of aides advocated immediate action regardless of the lack of evidence. This strikes me as an indication that Bush had lousy judgment in picking advisors, not that he showed restraint. He failed to devote the resources necessary to capture bin Laden, persisted in attacking Iraq despite the lack of credible evidence and refused to admit let alone rectify that error.


  29. TXProgressive Says:

    What do you mean? He did jump - he jumped and invaded the WRONG country! What could be more misguided and ignorant than that?? C’mon David, don’t tell us you’re a Bush hoser now too.


  30. mary Says:

    “He (Bush) was thinking about invading Iraq in 1999,” said author and journalist Mickey Herskowitz. “It was on his mind. He said to me: ‘One of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as a commander-in-chief.’ And he said, ‘My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it.’ He said, ‘If I have a chance to invade….if I had that much capital, I’m not going to waste it. I’m going to get everything passed that I want to get passed and I’m going to have a successful presidency.”

    http://atheism.about.com/ b/ 2004/ 11/ 01/ bush-wanted-to-invade-iraq-in-1999.htm

    please allow me to repeat:
    “if I have a chance to invade” = Bush quote.

    Oh Yippee! A chance to invade!


  31. RUCerious Says:

    progressisgreat Says:
    April 3rd, 2008 at 3:36 pm
    the truth hurts a little!!

    Right. You wouldn’t know the truth if it smacked you upside the head with a 2X4, twice.


  32. mary Says:

    ‘According to Herskowitz, George W. Bush’s beliefs on Iraq were based in part on a notion dating back to the Reagan White House – ascribed in part to now-vice president Dick Cheney, Chairman of the House Republican Policy Committee under Reagan. “Start a small war. Pick a country where there is justification you can jump on, go ahead and invade.”’

    http://www.gnn.tv/articles/article.php?id=761


  33. mary Says:

    ‘President Bush and his senior aides began plotting the invasion of Iraq just days after he took office in January 2001 and not, as the administration has indicated, after terrorists struck against the United States eight months later, according to former Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill, who was forced from his post in December 2002.’

    http://www.boston.com/ news/ nation/ articles/ 2004/ 01/ 11/ bush_began_iraq_plan_pre_911_oneill_says/

    Okay, thanks guys for letting me vent. I’ll stop now. I get so pissed at these people who call themselves journalists!


  34. DRxJ Says:

    misshusseinmolly is correct.
    Bush actually did not “jump” to an invasion.
    He had to have time to mislead the country into an illegal invasion, of a government that had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11.
    If he would have “jumped” into a conflict with those that attacked us, then we would have OBL by now, the world would respect us, we wouldn’t be in debt to China, and gas would not cost us our damn paycheck.
    Oh, and most importantly, 4000 brave men and women would be alive today interacting normally with their family.
    FUKC YOU, BUSH!
    FUKC YOU, GREGORY!


  35. pete Says:

    Actually, the truth hurts a lot. That truth being that the American government has been seized by treasonous scum. Americans, yet unborn, will be paying the bills for Bushco’s reckless adventures. All too often they will pay with their lifeblood.


  36. RobertSeattle Says:

    No, Bush said “F Saddam, we are taking him out”. It just took 16 months and a whole lot of BS to get the military ready and the American People to support his pack of lies.


  37. buzzbomb Says:

    My God the mainstream media is brain dead. How can Gregory find the time to wax both Bush’s and McCain’s balls on a daily basis?


  38. VerbalKint Says:

    I get the feeling that Rove has some dirt on Gregory.


  39. nanlichi Says:

    Well, in all fairness, Afghanistan just didn’t have enough targets for a truly Shock and Awe operation. 9/12 was the start of the attempt to pin Iraq to 9/11.

    And Sadam shot at Daddy, there’s that motive.

    Eat shit and die Gregory. Iraq is Bush’s War. His and his alone. There was no and is no justification for that bloody mess and to say in any way that this fiasco is anything but the worst blunder in the history of the US is lying.


  40. Buckie Boy Says:

    Gregory: Bush ‘didn’t jump to invade Iraq’ after 9/11.»

    No, he didn’t ‘Jump’, the term is ‘Lied’, he ‘lied to invade Iraq’ after 9/11.
    He also is quoted as saying before 9/11 that he wanted to invade Iraq, even before he stole the office of president and made it into a dictatorship.

    I truly hate Bush, first person ever that I truly hate.

    IMPEACH BUSH CHENEY
    Hague Trials ‘09

    Had a flat going to work today with my corvette, good thing I have insurance on those tires…it was ruined and they are replacing it ($350 tire) but can’t get a new one for 3 days, not a stock item…my poor little red had a boo boo.


  41. Keltoi Says:

    VerbalKint Says:
    April 3rd, 2008 at 4:22 pm
    I get the feeling that Rove has some dirt on Gregory.

    HMMM! That would explain much. But will MSNBC tolerate this type of commentary? Why bother replacing Tucker if you going to get this?


  42. S.D. Says:


    Honestly, I’m stunned.

    David Gregory should know that there is ample evidence that GW bush linked Iraq to 9/11 in the first few days after the attack.

    Since when did David Gregory become the GOP spokesman??


  43. MCMetal Says:

    Gregory: Bush ‘didn’t jump to invade Iraq’ after 9/11.

    Taking your time before heading full-bore into a colossal mistake somehow alleviates or removes any and all blame for that mistake ?

    Does that mean I would be forgiven for killing someone if I thought about it for a couple of years before actually proceeding with it ?

    WTF kind of rationale is that !?!?!?!?!?!?


  44. Zooey Says:

    Gregory has finally lost all credibility.

    Shut up and take Rove dancing…


  45. mary Says:

    Very well put McMetal!

    I thought journalists were supposed to be intelligent.


  46. texaslady Says:

    Well when you like to rub shoulders with the haves and have mores in Martha’s Vineyard and Kennebunkport how can you report objectively. Gregory has sold out like many other journalists.


  47. judyinnm Says:

    I have it good authority that there is something added to the water (koolaid, anyone?) in the White House briefing room that affects reporters’ ability to function as intelligent human beings. David Gregory overindulged several years ago. (Only Helen Thomsa is immune.)

    Anyway, what MCMetal said….


  48. SP Biloxi Says:

    Tsk, tsk, tsk.. Gregory inhaled the GOP pollution. And I used to respect David Gregory for his reporting. It is a shame the word “honest reporting” is out the window these days.


  49. angeranddespair Says:

    The Fourth Estate has the blood of all our Murdered and Maimed soldiers on their hands, as well as all the blood of all the murdered and maimed uncounted Iraqis …because they don’t count. (by the way that blood ain’t ever washing off.) The Media, main stream and otherwise stood lock step with this Lying administration repeated the lies, upon lies upon lies, until they became the truth, repeated and sanctioned at every turn by the media. Tell us again why did we invade a country that never attacked us? None of the 9/11 criminals were from Iraq. Hers is another question for the media to ask; Why are we not in prison as accomplices? If someone lies (lets say President Bush) to get permission to commit a crime are not all the auxiliary events that happen under the commission of that crime also criminal? The murder and theft of an innocent countries people - men, women, children, and theft of their culture, arts, natural resources and livelihood. Hey you all in the Media take a hard look at the Invasion and Occupation you allowed and fostered to happen. Don’t forget your glorious march up the middle of Iraq bombing her to smithereens while you were embedded(in bed with) the most corrupt lying administration ever.


  50. stateofthedivision Says:

    This sounds a bit fishy, which is also what David ate while dining at the Bush White House with Queen Elizabeth. With the Republican version of the Clinton Lincoln Bedroom staring him in the face, apparently all David could do is chew.

    Gregory isn’t a credible journalist.


  51. MCMetal Says:

    “If [Obama] talks about what you do in response to a crisis, either you have the right intelligence and you have the right response. Well, there’s not a lot of argument that Bush had the right response to 9/11. He didn’t jump to invade Iraq even though there was some argument that he should do that in the room.”

    This has to be among the most insane statements I have ever read………..

    Isn’t the sign of a “right response” how events effect the future and the eventual outcome of said action ?

    Because Chimpy waited to stupidly (and illegally) invade Iraq somehow exonerates him because “everyone in that room” (whatever the hell that means) , wanted to do it immediately ?

    The result has been identical , regardless of any time frame ; which is what most everyone with any viable brain matter inside their skull stated before our invasion of Iraq.

    Gregory’s argument is that Shrub deserves some sort of ‘credit’ for waiting longer than others wanted , to screw up completely anyway ?

    What in the hell is that !?!?!?!?!?


  52. calloy Says:

    gregory the “Journalist”…what did you expect from karl rove’s dancing partner?


  53. FunMe Says:

    What a sell out ho.

    I remember when he used to ask hard-hitting questions in the press conferences, but they got him too.

    Kinda like the movie Stepford wives - where at the end they all get to them


  54. texaslady Says:

    What a crock of manure ! How many in the administration have to tell us that Saddam and Iraq were the agenda PRIOR to 9/11 before Gregory and his ilk will just shut up.


  55. The Shadow Says:

    Mr. Gregory forgot one important thing: Irag had nothing whatsoever to do with 9-11. So why would Bush need to invade Iraq after 9-11. That’s like saying: Bush didn’t invade Canada immediate after 9-11. Apparently this idiot has been drinking too much of the McCain kool-aid. I mean how stupid can he be. And he also in his quick defense of the Bush administration seems to forget we did invade Iraq for no reason.

    He also forgets the reports of former Bush administration officials who say he planned to invade Iraq right after taking office. These same official (Mr. Clark and Sec. Paul O’Neal) both say he was obsessed with overthrowing Sadam. David apparently can’t get past the idea of a black man becoming President so he losses his mind and starts defending the worst President in American history. If David can’t use what brains he has then MCNBC needs to fire him.

    This is worst that Bill Clinton saying: It depends on what the meaning of “is” is. I mean not even the liars in the Bush administration still try to sell us on the idea that Iraq had something to do with 9-11 except Cheney. David is so caught up in his support for Israel that he can’t see facts for what they are. He needs to stop being Jewish first and start being an American journalist.


  56. JMOHR Says:

    Greggory is right. Bush had the right response after 9/11 and did not immediately attack Iraq. But that really begs the question, doesn’t it. The real question then becomes why Bush fu__ed it thereafter. Was it:

    1. A calculated delay to give him time to drum up and invent public support for an action against a oountry that had nothing to do with 9/11?

    2. Was this a weak willed person who realized that Iraq was not the target immediately after 9/11 but was buldozed by his less intelligent advisers?

    3. Did Bush really show great restraint when he pulled resources from Afghanistan and sent them to Iraq for an uneccessary war?

    4. Did Bush really show great intellect when he rushed to war inspite of the fact that UN inspectors were on the ground saying that there were no WMD stashes or sites? Was this not really just evidence of a child who wanted to upset the board before everyone knew that he was losing?

    Who would not have attacked Afghanistan. Bin Laden publicly took responsibility, the Taliban refused to surrender him or permit the US to get him, the entire world supported action and any idiot knew what needed to be done. That was the easy part. The hard part is long term judgment and the patience to finish the job and to really guage what the threats were. God, I may not agree with the invasion, but it should have been a cake walk. It took real stupity to assume flowers in the face of consistent State Department and DoD studies anticipating what happened. It took real stupidity not to see the need for a well planned and implemented rebuilding program after the problems observed in Afghanistan. The village idiot gets the simplest part right but screws up every single thing thereafter and we are to praise him?


  57. texaslady Says:

    One of bush’s points was Saddam tried to kill my dad. Well last week it came out that no evidence of that plot existed. So chaulk up another lie for georgie. One of his Professors made a comment that georgie couldn’t tell the truth way back in college and when proved to be a liar, say he didn’t say the first lie. People don’t change just get elected.


  58. Freedom Rebel Says:

    Even though I was a little girl when Walter Kronkite did the news, at least you could trust him to give you accurate information.

    Then came Shock Jocks on the radio, some of those guys are very scary….

    Now it’s Shock News Reporting, what will inflame the audience the most and get the biggest response.

    My example is: Beck defending WAL-MART; calling the Media and Citizens, Blackmailers and Terrorists. And today Gregory is trying to outdo Beck by exonerating Bush, how can I incite as many people as possible. Well he achieved his goal. They both have something in common, absolutely no shame…


  59. MCMetal Says:

    Kilo Says:
    April 3rd, 2008 at 6:28 pm
    texaslady Says:
    April 3rd, 2008 at 5:58 pm

    One of bush’s points was Saddam tried to kill my dad. Well last week it came out that no evidence of that plot existed. So chaulk up another lie for georgie.

    The same “lie” was in the 1998 resolution to overthrow Saddam. GW shares a surname with that target, what was Clinton’s excuse for lying about it ?

    He was attempting to mimic every GOP politician ………


  60. MCMetal Says:

    Kilo Says:
    April 3rd, 2008 at 6:33 pm
    RUCerious Says:
    April 3rd, 2008 at 3:15 pm

    Uh, Davey, you haven’t read about the fact that he’d mentioned invading Iraq BEFORE 9/11??

    Wow didn’t you miss the point. Did you think this makes him look worse or better ?

    So GWB wanted to invade Iraq before 9/11, 9/11 happened and his Def Sec and VP immediately started pushing for an invasion of Iraq as a response but instead GWB appropriately attacked Afghanistan and not Iraq.
    Getting any closer to a clue here are you ?

    So what changed exactly that Chimpy felt the incurable need to illegally and stupidly invade Iraq ?


  61. texaslady Says:

    Kilo - why is Bin Laden not on FBI’s most wanted list ? Why were the Taliban wined and dined here in Sugar Land, Texas just prior to 9/11 by the oil companies? And tell me just where does it say Bin Laden claimed he orchestraed 9/11 ? I would like to check that out.


  62. texaslady Says:

    Osama Bin Laden’s 9/11 “confession” has been debunked as not even being him on the tape. Also, other tapes have been traced back to the Pentagon and Donald Rumsfeld. Gee, wonder why maybe so bush and cheney and feith could illegally enter Iraq for the oil ??????


  63. MCMetal Says:

    Kilo Says:
    April 3rd, 2008 at 6:44 pm
    MCMetal Says:
    April 3rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm

    So what changed exactly that Chimpy felt the incurable need to illegally and stupidly invade Iraq ?

    You’re asking me in 2008 ? Why ?
    Were you in a coma when for 6 months the US media carried nothing but this case being made by the administration ?

    What “case” ? It was all a bunch of bullshit (as everyone who isn’t a GOP/Chimpy stooge knew)that has since been documented as a pack of lies with no substance……….

    So , my question remains ; what changed exactly ?


  64. flavorino Says:

    David Gregory is typical of today’s so-called “journalists”, He’s about a half step up from Jeff Gannon.
    “Cable news” is a bad joke.
    It is a huge pile of worthless crap.
    David Gregory’s job is to take that huge pile of worthless crap and try to sell to the American public for the corporate owned media that pays him to do so.

    After he disappears I will remember Gregory not as a journalist, but as Karl Rove’s dance partner and hype -man.


  65. Max-1 Says:

    Why didn’t David Gregory just say that Bush had the right response sitting in front of the children reading MY PET GOAT by not shitting his pants? That would be a correct statement based in similar facts… NO?

    What a whore Gregory is.

    WHAT WMD’S?
    WHAT YELLOW CAKE URANIUM?
    WHAT MOBILE BIO-CHEM WEAPONS PLANTS?
    WHAT TIES TO AL-CIA-DUH?
    WHAT ALUMINUM TUBES?
    WHAT IMMINENT THREAT?
    WHAT SUITCASE NUKE?
    WHAT MUSHROOM CLOUDS?
    WHAT TRUTH?
    WHAT FACTS?

    So, one cam surmise that Gregory seems to think that somewhere Bush was justified to attack Iraq because of WHAT FACTS!


  66. Keith Says:

    Max1, I might add
    What meeting in Prague?
    What drones capable of delivery?
    What shack in the north? That was always under our control.
    935 recorded lies.

    Noone has mentioned that Iraq has the #2 (a few say #1) OIL reserves in the world. Iran (next target) has the #3.
    PNAC said in the early 90’s that as the world’s sole superpower we should take control of the Middle East because of the importance of OIL — but that it would take a “new Pearl Harbor” to get the people to go along.

    The pentagon laid out its “Lily Pad” stategy in the Middle East before 9/11.

    A friend of mine was designing video games of the bombing of Baghdad for the Air Force in the Summer of 2001.


  67. Exit Stage Left Says:

    David Gregory is a shill. I never thought I’d refer to Bowtie Tucker at 6 as “the good old days”.


  68. Robt Says:

    David also stated in the clip something a bit misleading of Al Qaida in Iraq. He says right at the end of the clip that, “Al Qaida IS STILL in Iraq”. Insinuating Al Qaida was all over Iraq prior our invasion…!

    But David did this as one of the White House Press corps.
    Bush’s buddy like the lobbyists on McCain’s bus………..


  69. texaslady Says:

    Kilo - Google Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI…”there is no hard evidence connecting Osama with 9/11″ June 6, 06.
    Also the government will NOT authentic the tape of Osama claiming he was the leader for 9/11.

    You know start checking your beliefs before portraying them as facts.


  70. DallasNE Says:

    Gregory is just like the rest of the Washington journalist. There access to sources is their lifeblood. With those kinds of conflicts, what do you expect? Certainly not the truth.


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