ThinkFast: April 3, 2008
ThinkFast: April 3, 2008
“For a man who came into office as the nation’s first M.B.A. president, Mr. Bush has sometimes seemed invisible during the housing and credit crunch,” writes The New York Times. Even Bush’s conservative allies say that the President “is being eclipsed and is in danger of looking out of touch.” As Congress scrambled to “produce a bill to help struggling homeowners,” Bush left for Eastern Europe.
“For at least 16 months after the Sept. 11 terror attacks in 2001, the Bush administration believed that the Constitution’s protection against unreasonable searches and seizures on U.S. soil didn’t apply to its efforts to protect against terrorism,” according to “a secret Justice Department legal memo dated Oct. 23, 2001.” The memo’s existence was disclosed “Tuesday in a footnote of a separate secret memo” about interrogation policy.
More than 1,000 people attended a rally Wednesday in support of a Oklahoma Rep. Sally Kern (R) , who was “widely criticized” for a saying homosexuality is “the biggest threat our nation has.” Kern said the rally affirms the rights of those “who want to stand up for the truth of God’s word.”
Recent surveys by the National Patient Advocate Foundation and the Kaiser Family Foundation found that “[p]eople with health insurance are having more trouble paying for prescription drugs as higher out-of-pocket costs for medications and a slowing economy strain family budgets.”
According to a recent Defense Department Inspector General report, “[t]he Army can’t be sure some of its body armor met safety standards” because “nearly half of the Army’s contractors did not perform the most basic test on the body armor before it was sent to our troops fighting overseas.”
Yesterday, a bipartisan group of seven senators proposed legislation that would “improve health care for female soldiers returning from duty in Iraq and require the Veteran Administration’s mental health staff to be trained to counsel victims of sexual assault.”
Iraqi Shi’ite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr called on Thursday for a million-strong demonstration against U.S. ‘occupation,’ a potentially destabilizing show of force after his followers battled U.S. and government troops. The demonstration would take place next Wednesday April 9, the fifth anniversary of the fall of Baghdad, when the U.S. commander in Iraq is also scheduled to brief Congress in Washington about progress in the war.”
Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne refused to testify yesterday to a Senate committee “seeking an explanation” on the delayed decision whether to “list polar bears as threatened under the Endangered Species Act.” Instead, he sent a letter to the committee and pledged to testify once his decision was made, “now three months late.”
Just before the March recess, “House Democrats thought they were close to getting a deal on an immigration package.” But according to Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI) “a senior Republican came to him” to derail the bill, saying that Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) “didn’t want to deal with immigration this year.”
And finally: Edward Gabriel was the U.S. ambassador to Morocco from 1997 to 2001. Yesterday, an “in memoriam” ad ran in The Washington Post titled “Ed Gabriel: A Partner for Life.” Gabriel, however, is not dead. The ad was an April Fools’ Day prank by an old friend, J. Peter Segall. Gabriel fielded calls all day from people who thought he had passed away, including one woman who had cried for two hours after seeing the ad. Segall later admitted that his joke was “very stupid.”
What did we miss? Let us know in the comments section.
Paulson’s Fixit Plan for Wall Street: Less regulation, More Power to the Fed
Treasury Secretary and his pals at the Fed close to achieving unlimited power with zero accountability
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/13801
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:00 amThe Bush administration believed that the Constitution’s protection against unreasonable searches and seizures on U.S. soil didn’t apply to its efforts to protect against terrorism,”
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:09 am.
That’s it. The terrorists have won. They have succeeded in destroying our Constitution.
Art Says:
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:09 am
The Bush administration believed that the Constitution’s protection against unreasonable searches and seizures on U.S. soil didn’t apply to its efforts to protect against terrorism,”
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That’s it. The terrorists have won. They have succeeded in destroying our Constitution.
Yep, the real terrorists, Bush and Cheney won, since it was their intention when (s)elected to destroy the Constitution and raid the treasury.
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:15 amBut according to Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI) “a senior Republican came to him” to derail the bill, saying that Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) “didn’t want to deal with immigration this year.”
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What’s going on here? Are we dumbing down the game for McCain so he won’t have to answer any hard questions? Or flip-flop on yet another issue?
I predict that whether there is an active bill in Congress or not, McCain will still be asked his position on immigration at some point.
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:16 amYesterday, a bipartisan group of seven senators proposed legislation that would “improve health care for female soldiers returning from duty in Iraq and require the Veteran Administration’s mental health staff to be trained to counsel victims of sexual assault.”
How about we start holding the mother f_ckers who do this kind of thing to women accountable so it stops happening?! WTF? This bullshit band-aid crap has got to stop! Legislation is meaningless if the laws already made are not enforceable.
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:19 amDoes anybody have a copy of Bush’s Master’s Thesis? Maybe this is how He envisioned running a country years ago. Perhaps he has taken the unregulated market concept into government: He does have an unregulated Presidency, thanks to the fact that Pelosi and Conyers took impeachment off the table.
Under His unlimited powers as “commander-in-chief” He can do whatever He wants. He is no longer impeded by having to recognize the “constitutional rights” of the people.
Regulation and oversight only apply to the working class. The privileged class, the “haves, and the have-mores” are free to continue their plunder of America.
But don’t worry, McCain will boldly lead us into further sustained war, increasing the wealth of the ruling class; and conscripting the sons and daughters of the working class and poor. Our loss of freedoms will be purchased with the blood of our children. Eventually, you, too, will love Big Brother.
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:19 am“For at least 16 months after the Sept. 11 terror attacks in 2001, the Bush administration believed that the Constitution’s protection against unreasonable searches and seizures on U.S. soil didn’t apply to its efforts to protect against terrorism,” according to “a secret Justice Department legal memo dated Oct. 23, 2001.”
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I have a couple of observations here.
1) Why have a system of checks and balances in our government (or even a constitution!) when the president can legislate by memo?
2) Why is the fourth amendment being trampled on in the name of “fighting terrorism” while the second amendment remains sacred? Thanks to that, terrorists can still buy weaponry in this country, but this is apparently of no concern to anyone.
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:21 amthe Bush administration believed that the Constitution’s protection against unreasonable searches and seizures on U.S. soil didn’t apply to its efforts to protect against terrorism..
So, which of his obviously talented lawyers told them this bit of news? Where in the constitution does it say that “all provisions therein no longer apply when it comes to fighting terrorism”?
You gotta love the irony. This is the belief held by the biggest terrorists on earth, the Bush Crime Family.
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:21 amYesterday, an “in memoriam” ad ran in The Washington Post titled “Ed Gabriel: A Partner for Life.” Gabriel, however, is not dead. The ad was an April Fools’ Day prank by an old friend, J. Peter Segall.
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Um…”yesterday” was April 2, not April 1. Doesn’t Segall have a calendar?
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:22 amKern said the rally affirms the rights of those “who want to stand up for the truth of God’s word.
No Ms. Kern, all it shows is that there are 1,000 wackadoodle bigots in Oklahoma.
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:22 amWhat would you expect from a guy who bought his way through college and was stoned half the time.The CHIMP is a moron with an M.B.A.
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:24 amRep. Sally Kern from Okla. needs a bib.All of her crying about gays is pathetic, these are the kind of people that if they don`t like it, LEAVE. Homosexuality has been around a lot longer than the Bible and will not be going any time soon.Instead of worrying about something she can`t do anything about why doesn`t she do her %#@!& job in Washington for which our TAX DOLLARS pay her.People like her and her neoconservative values are what`s a danger to our country not GAYS.
Iraqi Shi’ite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr called on Thursday for a million-strong demonstration against U.S. ‘occupation,’ a potentially destabilizing show of force after his followers battled U.S. and government troops. The demonstration would take place next Wednesday April 9, the fifth anniversary of the fall of Baghdad, when the U.S. commander in Iraq is also scheduled to brief Congress in Washington about progress in the war.”
DAMN PATRIOTS! i mean DAMN INSURGENTS!
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:25 ammisshusseinmolly Says: April 3rd, 2008 at 9:16 am
What’s going on here? Are we dumbing down the game for McCain so he won’t have to answer any hard questions? Or flip-flop on yet another issue?
I predict that whether there is an active bill in Congress or not, McCain will still be asked his position on immigration at some point.
Agreed, missmolly, he can run, but he can’t hide. Given the fact Chertoff’s latest actions violate many environmental laws, the ‘fence’ issue is not dead, and Arizona is part of this fiasco, McPanderer is bound to be asked immigration questions.
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:26 amHe found out 2 years ago that this was a highly volatile issue, and got burned by it. He wants to strut around like some mystical war hero while Rome burns…ain’t gonna happen.
According to a recent Defense Department Inspector General report, “[t]he Army can’t be sure some of its body armor met safety standards” because “nearly half of the Army’s contractors did not perform the most basic test on the body armor before it was sent to our troops fighting overseas.”
That’s what happens when you give people no-bid cost-plus no oversight contracts. I wonder how many deaths in Iraq are attributable to greedy contractors who cut corners? We already know that many deaths are due to the fact that the military didn’t get up-armored vehicles. They didn’t get the vehicles because the Bush Crime Family wanted them to wait until 2010 so that a FOB company could make the vehicles.
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:26 amKern said the rally affirms the rights of those “who want to stand up for the truth of God’s word.”
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If people REALLY wanted to “stand up for the truth of God’s word,” I would be the first one to defend their right to do so. However, they would have to stand up for the truth of ALL of God’s word — not just the cherry-picked parts twisted to suit their bigoted agenda. I suggest they start with “judge not, lest ye be judged.”
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:28 amYesterday, a bipartisan group of seven senators proposed legislation that would “improve health care for female soldiers returning from duty in Iraq and require the Veteran Administration’s mental health staff to be trained to counsel victims of sexual assault.”
Considering the fact that female soldiers are more likely to be raped by a fellow soldier in Iraq than to be killed, I would think that the counseling sexual assault victims would be a top priority. I also wonder what happens to the soldiers to assault their fellow female soldiers. Somehow I doubt they are prosecuted the same as they would be if they were civilians.
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:29 amU.S. Constitution/Bill of Rights = Bush/Cheney toilet paper.
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:29 amIraqi Shi’ite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr called on Thursday for a million-strong demonstration against U.S. ‘occupation,’ a potentially destabilizing show of force after his followers battled U.S. and government troops.
Do you suppose having a million people in Iraq saying “get the hell out of our country” would be enough for Bush. Nah… he could care less what the people in Iraq think. He has his puppet Maliki and as long as Maliki thinks it is in his own best interests, he is not going to ask us to leave.
But, I wonder what’s up with the Iraqi Parliament. Last I heard they were voting to ask us to leave. That was some time last year.
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:31 am….he sent a letter to the committee and pledged to testify once his decision was made, “now three months late.
These people really do think they are answerable to no one, don’t they. Hopefully Obama will bring us back to a government of accountability with checks and balances.
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:33 amfor a saying homosexuality is “the biggest threat our nation has.”
These idiots are still reading cold stats from the 1950s. And a thousand people showing up cannot be extrapolated to mean “our nation.”
Linking same-sex relationships — a harmless pact if I ever saw one — to terrorism is potential terrorism in itself. The minds of these people are apparently unstable. I’d have restraining orders drawn on all of ‘em.
Listening to Colmes last night, not on the topic of gay marriage, I heard two callers make threats. One said it was a good idea to bomb Dearborn, Michigan. The other said it was a good idea to kill all liberals — including Colmes.
Liberals, of course, are held to another standard. If we rightly compare the threat of Global Warming, a scientifically -proven effect, to the threat of terrorism by arguing the merits — that it has the ability to do harm to us on an even broader scale than terrorism — we’re just a herd of crazy loons.
But when the reich does it through bible thumping, it’s an outrage for them to be called on anything.
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:34 amBut according to Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI) “a senior Republican came to him” to derail the bill, saying that Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) “didn’t want to deal with immigration this year.
Of course he doesn’t. And I expect that the Democrats are going to leave it alone too. There are way too many people out there, democrats and republicans alike, who think that undocumented workers are the reason for all the problems in this country. They are wrong, but there’s no convincing them of that fact.
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:35 amClinton Foundation donors remain shrouded in secrecy
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April 3rd, 2008 at 9:36 amAs Congress scrambled to “produce a bill to help struggling homeowners,” Bush left for Eastern Europe.
Clueless. Disgusting. Boob.
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:37 amMore than 1,000 people attended a rally Wednesday in support of a Oklahoma Rep. Sally Kern (R), who was “widely criticized” for a saying homosexuality is “the biggest threat our nation has.” Kern said the rally affirms the rights of those “who want to stand up for the truth of God’s word.”
I spent 30 years in Oklahoma, between 1994 and 2000. If it weren’t for I-40, I wouldn’t set foot there again, for love or money…
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:41 amSilly burro, welfare is only acceptable for the rich.
To a republican, a rich person becoming middle class is FAR worse than a poor person starving to death.
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:43 amThese arguments would be valid in most contexts. But given Clinton’s unusual circumstances, gifts to his foundation could rightly be seen as a back door into the good graces of someone who could be a key adviser to the next president. The stakes are simply too high not to have principles of open government take precedence over common fundraising practices.
And if ever there was a reason for Hillary Clinton to NOT be our next President, this is it.
I wonder how many people have made Hillary and Bill personally rich in the anticipation of Hillary being our next President.
I would rather have a President who is beholden to over 1 million Americans donating small amounts of money to his campaign than one who is beholden to big money interests and corporations.
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:46 amMcWars Says:
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:34 am
Listening to Colmes last night, not on the topic of gay marriage, I heard two callers make threats. One said it was a good idea to bomb Dearborn, Michigan. The other said it was a good idea to kill all liberals — including Colmes.
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I seem to remember a time when anyone who advocated wide-spread killing such as the two callers you mention would never have been allowed a media soapbox from which to express those views publicly. What’s going on here? I have a couple of guesses. One — our press and our airwaves have been getting filled with people like Ann Coulter (who advocated bombing the New York Times building) and Michael Savage (who wants to kill all Muslims, 100 million at a time), whose stock in trade is being hateful. This gives hatred an aura of acceptability. The other thing is that these calls make it through the vetting process now. Why? Ratings?
Somehow, I see this mindset as a far bigger threat to our society than gay marriage is or ever could be.
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:47 amAs for Mr. Yoo, this is a suggestion from a fellow commenter at CB and I completely agree.
The idea is to write Yoo’s colleagues and superiors at UC - Berkeley and ask them what they think about their reputations being soiled, as well as that of the university itself, by association with Yoo.
I applaud the effort and hope that you guys might, too. Addresses are available through the above link.
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:48 amIsn’t Bill irate over Richardson’s endorsement, and is Hillary pleading to select superdelegates that Barack “cannot beat McCain” ?
Is Hillary truly intent on making this an all-or-nothing for the dems?
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:51 amIn GDumbya’s case, I think that MBA stands for “My Brain’s AWOL”. These republicans who are concerned that he is “in danger of looking out of touch” are about seven years late to the party. Please — can anyone tell me of an instance when this presi-dunce actually looked like he was in touch?
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:51 amI spent 30 years in Oklahoma, between 1994 and 2000. If it weren’t for I-40, I wouldn’t set foot there again, for love or money…
Only a thousand showed up? Hell, they’d get more than that with a football camp. That’s Oklahoma’s real religion.
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:52 amQ: What’s the best thing to ever come out of Oklahoma?
A: I-40
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:55 amIf 10% of our population is homosexual then that means that 100 of their thousand was statistically gay.
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:59 amfrom the “HUH?” dept.:
Strategists say Gore not likely to serve in Obama cabinet
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:04 amBoston Herald - 59 minutes ago
By Jessica Fargen Political strategists say it’sa near impossibility that Al Gore, a Nobel Prize winner, former vice president and Hollywood darling, would ever serve in Barack Obama’s cabinet, should the Illinois senator win the White House.
Obama Would Find Cabinet Post for Gore The Associated Press
Obama says would consider Gore for a Cabinet post Reuters
# misshusseinmolly Says:
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:47 am
Good morning, Miss Molly.
Alan Colmes, unlike the rest of Faux news radio, does not screen his callers for political affiliation. They simply give their names and where they live. And he utilizes the free marketplace of dissent to his advantage, and it works wonders for him because he has good stamina in dealing with possibly more conservative than liberal callers. It makes him look real good. The caller who threatened to kill liberals had to be cut off when he started using profanity.
As for Michael Weiner, Mark Levine, a neocon, actually pointed out that while he brags about driving a $180,000 Mercedes and making millions a year, he’s asking out of his listeners funds for the legal defense of his crap lawsuit against CAIR.
The right advocates stopping terror when they need to take a shot against the left. Other than that, they expect others not to be listening in when they advocate terrorist attacks within our own borders to improve the outlook of their smoke-and-mirrors agenda.
As always miss molly, you’re the king and queen and logic. I’ll keep saying that as long as I’m here at TP.
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:05 amIf 10% of our population is homosexual then that means that 100 of their thousand was statistically gay.
And cheering louder than the rest, I’d wager. If there is one thing in great supply in Oklahoma, it’s hypocrites.
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:06 amCorzine, of NJ, may reconsider his nomination of Clinton — was he present for the recent Bill Clinton tirade?
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:07 amSally Kern’s family must be so proud that she is becoming the grand marshall of her own KKK knockoff.
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:08 amThe United Nations has designated April 2 as World Autism Awareness Day. To mark this historic occasion, the Autism Society of America, the World Autism Organization and the Co-Chairs of the bipartisan Congressional Coalition for Autism Research and Education (C.A.R.E.), Rep. Chris Smith and Rep. Mike Doyle, will hold a press conference on the Cannon Terrace to build support for critical legislation that would provide needed autism services in the U.S. and around the world.
In February 2008, a bi-partisan group of legislators joined Congressmen Smith and Doyle in introducing the Global Autism Assistance Act, (HR 5446). This landmark legislation will establish a global health and education grant program related to autism spectrum disorders and provide support to families, educational institutions, clinics and medical centers in developing nations
It about time they did something to help all of us and our children. When my son was diagnosed with Autism, it was 1 in every 10,000 children effected (2/3 of them boys). Now it is 1 in every 150 children effected. There is no excuse for it to have taken this long to try and help these children, teenagers and adults. It is hard enough that they get labeled from the misinformed or the unaware, as being bad behaved children.
I consider my son my hero, he was had to conquer so many obsticles to be able to adapt and learn. If given the proper tools the sky is the limit for these children and adults.
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:09 amAs a nation, we need to have war crimes trials once this administration is out of power.
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:10 amAnd these are the uncounted millions of people who are underinsured in America. This is a great way to keep a lid on the fact that MOST Americans are really at financial risk because of health care costs.
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:12 amBelieve TP forgot to mention that Rep. Kern had received more that 30,000 emails, many of them vulgar, intimidating, and threatening. Her family has been threatened and there has been the ever popular insinuation that her son is a homosexual.
Since her statements reached the media she has had State Trooper escort around the capital.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60580
This woman didn’t give up her First Amendment rights because she is an elected official.
Though the woman didn’t call homosexuals terrorists, they seem to be proving that they are.
BTW, is the need for so-called “jamming” also “inborn?”
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:14 amGhost of 9/11 Says:
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:17 am
When will the true perpertrators of the attack on 9/11/2001 be brought to account?
Never. I don’t care if Obama or Feingold (who I think is one of the most honest people out there) is elected. If it is ever determined that Americans (high level Americans, at that) had either complicity or direct culpability in 9/11, there is no way in any living person’s lifetime that we would ever know about it. That would never happen.
These criminals will never pay for their crime. Unless a foreign entity takes the lead and forcibly leads Bush et al out in chains. And that, too, will never happen.
Sad, very sad, but true.
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:15 ambarfly Says:
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:06 am
If 10% of our population is homosexual then that means that 100 of their thousand was statistically gay.
And cheering louder than the rest, I’d wager. If there is one thing in great supply in Oklahoma, it’s hypocrites.
Your 10% is a dated number. Try 2.4% of the males and %1.4 of the females.
References in the article at
http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2553
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:16 amI read this last night and I have to say it’s scaring the crap out of me.
Someone please tell me I am being paranoid for no reason!
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:17 amWow, that is a startling statistic….any insight as to cause.
We just have to do something soon to help our people who are struggling and suffering needlesly. This is unaccepable. Best wishes and luck to you and yours Freedom Rebel.
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:18 ambitblt Says: Your 10% is a dated number. Try 2.4% of the males and %1.4 of the females.
A closer examination will reveal to you that it was Fred who quoted the 10% figure.
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:18 amAnd bitblt (from your link):
Homosexuals enjoy the same civil rights everyone else does.
Except the right to marry, and a long list of other things.
Not exactly an unbiased site, going by their language.
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:24 amJust 25 percent of the public approves of the way Mr. Bush is handling the economy
Good thing the presidunce doesn’t govern according to polls… oh, wait… this isn’t a poll about citizens’ attitudes toward polkicy; it just measures how much Americans think Dumbya sucks.
Need another talking point, STAT!
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:27 ambit bit is making up facts…
the cherrypicked link for your fake data also has this bit bit of disinformation by the same author of your made up facts quoted earlier:
Lots of dumb people have phd’s bibbby….hell even your hero has an mba……means little when taken out of context, just like your made up facts.
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:30 amThat’s so cute. No, technically Oklahoma Rep. Sally Kern (R) didn’t say homosexuals are terrorists, she said they’re worse than terrorist!
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:31 amIt is estimated that only 2% of Americans have natural red hair, less than the number of homosexuals by any estimate. And yet, these abnormal people are allowed to marry, to teach our children, and to preach from our pulpits. And, now, look at how many blondes and brunettes are giving up their natural hair color to become redheads. Where is the outrage? We need a national movement against this. “Better dead than red”, I say. Are you with me?
/snark off
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:31 amThanks for pointing out that Ms. Kern’s remarks drew much more scorn than praise, bitblt.
I guess 30,000 neatly undercuts the numbers of those who showed up to cheer for intolerance.
What’s that you say? Many of them were “vulgar”and “threatening”? You don’t say. I wonder if any of them compared bigotry unfavorably to terrorism. Really? That bad, huh?
Shocking.
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:32 amadditionally bit bit,
Get used to being called out on your hate, whether it is against homosexuality, race, class, religion, doesn’t matter. The reign of terror is about over so you should wake up to that fact.
If kerns and yourself were really religious this would not be an event.
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:35 amBut, PLC, what abut those sinister LEFT-HANDERS??? They comprise about 10% of the population and they demand special scissors! They’re far worse than terrorists, yet they walk freely among us!
One of them even approached me in a bathroom and asked if I ever thought about “switching”!
You know where the word “sinister” comes from, don’t you? It means LEFT-HANDED!!!
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:36 amFred: Lots of dumb people have phd’s bibbby….
Here’s a rhyme to always remember(especially when talking to Righties):
A phd is no guarantee of intellectual integrity.
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:39 am#47 Fred
If you ask the parents of children with Autism, they will say the vaccines. That is because they contained a preserative called Thirmisol. What is Thirmasol, it has mercury in it. What does it do when you use it on lab rats. Most DIE. Alot are never the same. Robert F Kennedy Jr. received many letters from parents begging him to look into the matter. What he found was startling, the panel of 10 who approved Thirmisol in Multi-pack vaccines, most were lobbying for the pharmecutical companies. What a surprise!!!
The single dose vaccines do not use Thiramsol as a preserative. He spoke after a meeting with one of the doctors on the panel who had pre-school grandchildren. He told Mr. Kennedy that he wouldn’t allow his grandchildren to get vaccinated til much later. Starting at 3 or 4 years of age. It ruined an entire generation of children in the 90’s when they were heavily using this in the MMR vaccine. It seems to affect the children who ran high fevers and had other complications with the MMR vaccine.
A doctor won a landmark case against a pharmacuetical company that caused his daughters Autism. It was a combination of things and vaccines. Of course the drug companies deny all of this. The parents they say want to lash at someone or something. Sorry, but I’m not one to have knee jerk reactions like that.
Thanks Fred…
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:40 amPosted on TP by a canadian on the topic of homosexuality:
biddy and his group need to start being producive citizens. Tearing our society apart with hate is worse than terrorism.
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:41 amFreedom Rebel @ 58
That information follows what my wife and I understood to be a big part of the problem…..was just wondering what your thoughts were since you are living it…..thanks.
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:45 amWhat I mean by ruined is many of these children now suffer from gastro issues, allergies, ADHD, Hyper sensitivity to loud sounds, pancreas issues and more. One study says it will take them many years to know the full effects of what all the ramifications are going to be. Alot are medically fragile because of it. To me that is ruining someones life, when they have to get tested many times a year.
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:47 amFred Says:
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:35 am
On the influence of divorce on a stable society…
It’s common to hear Conservative Christians (CCs) say that if the heterosexuals were behaving themselves the homosexuals would simply go back into the closets. If this is not clear it means the general moral decline is caused by heterosexual behavior – specifically the lack of respect for marriage. CCs know that Christ said the Creator’s intended was that a man and woman would be “one flesh.” This is a relationship that can only be between an man and a woman.
Believe this and profit. Ignore it and suffer the consequences.
There’s not been a new rule that supercedes this one.
Unfortunately, the suffering is seldom limited to the two people in the marriage. They suffer; their children suffer; their friends suffer; society suffers. Often society pays and pays and pays.
However, it is the case that people tend to keep the events associated with divorce, and remarriage, quiet and private. Whenever TP decides to post an article on the cost – real and emotional – of divorce, you and bitblt will be very prepared.
Regardless, this doesn’t change anything about the societal decline caused by homosexuality.
If Fred wants to start a campaign to strengthen marriage, bitblt wants to join. One man one woman forever.
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:51 amDick Durbin is on C-Span now, and one startling statistic (at least for me) he quoted, was that 2 million homeowners who default on their homeloans will drag down the appraised values of an additional 40 million homes. That’s staggering.
Since defaulted homes are usually sold at less than fair market value, if someone’s home, blocks away from you, goes into foreclosure, it will likely mean a decrease in your home’s appraised value.
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:53 amHa, 21’st century rhyme too…..funny.
I found out the truth shortly after college. A girl I dated during school eventually obtained her PHD and became a marriage and family counselor.
She was still “helping” people work through thier marriage problems even after 3 divorces of her own…….I don’t know, I have a problem with folks who can’t run their own lives trying to tell me how to live…..
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:55 amIt’s my belief that many of these haters are very insecure about their own sexuality and the most vehement anti-gay are probably just one Brokeback Mountain matinee away from total flaming homosexuality.
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:59 amHow else would gay people be any threat to some right-winger’s marriage? Is it that shaky?
Regardless, this doesn’t change anything about the societal decline caused by homosexuality.
Anbd what do you see as this decline?
Please tell us why you think open homosexuality (and not the closeted behavior forced upon some to exist in a heterosexual world) fosters “societal decline.”
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:59 ambitbit,
you are a religios zealot and part of the problem, not part of the solution…..what do you want? Should we round them up and execute them?
Get over your offensive self and read my post at 55 again….oh yeah, you don’t read other peoples posts or you would never have posted that drivel at post 62.
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:59 amIraqi Shi’ite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr called on Thursday for a million-strong demonstration against U.S. ‘occupation,’ a potentially destabilizing show of force after his followers battled U.S. and government troops.
Dickhead Cheney: SO?
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:02 am#60 Fred-My thoughts-
Early intervention- Heavy on Speech Therapy and Occupational Therapy. OT is great for helping these kids with fine and gross motor skills. Also with socializing, they have a very difficult time with that. Most have severe speech deficts like my son.
Repetition is a big thing also. It helps them so much. Having a very structured home life is absolutely essential. They need structure more than the average child. For example my son takes a bath everyday no matter what at 8:30. This helps them cope better with the variables in everyday life. Concepts are very hard for them also. They don’t understand. I take my son hiking everyday. The reason, the joint compression for these kids is excellent it helps them to focus.
Most have a hard time in public and the reason for that is they can not tune out all the noise. For example you are at the Mall, they will hear everybody who is rattling change, talking on cell phones and everything else all at once. The brain is getting too much stimulation. That is when you will see them putting their hands over there ears. Some make noises at the same time. It is their way of self regulating. Most get very good at it.
If you need more information, no problem. I also work with several teenage boys through our local MRDD.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:03 amInterior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne refused to testify yesterday to a Senate committee “seeking an explanation” on the delayed decision whether to “list polar bears as threatened under the Endangered Species Act.” Instead, he sent a letter to the committee and pledged to testify once his decision was made, “now three months late.”
I’m glad Plastic Man is not just Idaho’s problem anymore.
Sheesh…
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:04 amThere is no doubt about it. The hate stems from fear of facing their own sexual issues. Look at the gop hypocrits who have been closeted homosexuals all of their lives but have mounted major legislative assults on the homosexual community…..
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:04 amFred Says:
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:41 am
Posted on TP by a canadian on the topic of homosexuality:
Our country ( Canada ) has passed laws allowing gay marraige. Hang on one sec,….let me look out the window and see if our society is coming apart…back in one sec…
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I have a friend who recently was in Canada to see to her husband who got hurt skiing up there. She came back rather perplexed and puzzled. All she could say was, “But… but… everyone was SO nice. I don’t understand it…”
I also have a friend who’s very important in the Canadian film business. After a trip to California, he once asked me, “Why is everyone so hostile out there?”
I didn’t know what to say.
It must be the bacon…
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:04 amralph, I’m sorry but I can’t condemn the sinister left handers. I was sired by one and produced one. I, I, I guess that’s why, why, I have to attack, you know, the, the, the red heads…Oh, no, I just remembered! My grandmother, who died when I was young was a flaming red head. I’m doomed! I’m genetically cursed - red head, left handed.
I’ll be over here in the corner on the floor, rocking, if you need me.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:05 amMore than 1,000 people attended a rally Wednesday in support of a Oklahoma Rep. Sally Kern (R) , who was “widely criticized” for a saying homosexuality is “the biggest threat our nation has.” Kern said the rally affirms the rights of those “who want to stand up for the truth of God’s word.”
She can exercise her First Amendment rights, and we exercise our own First Amendment right in response.
B!tch.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:07 amFreedom Rebel: Some make noises at the same time. It is their way of self regulating. Most get very good at it.
Sort of like using a Buddhist chant? I wonder if the regimen might offer them a tool to deal with the distractions.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:09 amFred Says:
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:30 am
bit bit is making up facts…
the cherrypicked link for your fake data also has this bit bit of disinformation by the same author of your made up facts quoted earlier:
Had you actually scanned these numbers – 2.8% of the males and 1.4% of the females are homosexuals - at the linked referenced in
bitblt Says:
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:16 am
you would see that they come highly recommended.
These numbers, and their source, were referenced in an amicus curiae (“friend of the court” brief) to the 2003 Texas Sodomy case, heard by SCOTUS. This brief was given to the court by a GLBT type organization. This means a homosexual organization endorsed these numbers.
Feel free to offer the source of any numbers you might present in this area.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:11 amFreedom Rebel
My wife and I have raised our kids….that is to say that the last two of three are now finishing college. That being said, we are not free from problems that strike our children…..we look forward to grandchildren.
We must change the way we treat health care in America…..how can it be ok for each of us to go off in our own corner and fight these catastropic health problems alone.
What kind of society have we become when people die in their homes of preventable health problems just because they can’t afford to see a doctor or buy a prescription.
Calling all Christians…..Jesus has a job for you.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:13 amGeorge W. Bush, MBA - Wholly purchased and paid for by good ole’ moneybags hag, Pappy Bush. Duh! This man doesn’t have the first clue about anything resembling fiscal policy. It’s clear that he never went to class and his degree was paid in full.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:13 amFred: Thanks to The Chimp it’s now a case of “every man for himself”. We have no government working for us - to protect us (FDA, DOJ, etc. all defunct due to gutting of resources by Bush). It’s going to take decades to undue the damage wrought by this fool posing as a diplomat/commander.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:15 amHaving joined the thread late and only skimmed the early posts, can anyone clue me in:
has bitblt actually explained the breakdown of the social fabric caused by gay marriage?
‘Cause I ain’t seein’ it.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:16 ambitblt Says:
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:11 am
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perhaps *&%$? (can’t be spoken…) would care to trot out his patronizing hypocrisy for the Log Cabin Republicans, see what they have to say…
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:18 amPhoto Comment. Can’t that moron even wave right? I freaking hate that dumb ass freaking wave he gives. What is up with that dickass wave?
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:19 amralph, bitblt considers “the breakdown of the social fabric caused by gay marriage” to be another self-evident truth, which is why he thinks there should be a Constitutional ban.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:20 ambit bit
percent of population that is homosexual.
“No one will ever know what it really is,” he said. “People lie about their sexuality more than anything else. People are afraid to say they’re gay, and who can blame them?”
I am done debating numbers with you. If you wish to continue a discussion of this issue you will have to address some of our questions…..you have refused to do that so far…..please respond to my post at 55.
I don’t care if the percentage is less than one percent…..you are still on the wrong and hate filled side of the issue…..
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:24 amFreedom Rebel
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:40 am
I don’t know if Thimerosol caused my son’s autism, but as soon as I heard about the potential problem, my youngest son never got another vaccination until he was an adult. It was too late for my eldest — I was such a good mom, getting all those vaccinations on time…it does make me wonder sometimes.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:27 amNo Ralph, I apologize for letting the troll keep us off topic with zany and ever fluctuating stats….
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:27 amIf my offspring is any indication, 50% of our population is gay. I hope they are both able to marry, should they choose to :)
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:29 amNow “bitbit” is denying the prevalence of homosexuality?
Zooey thinks bitbit has a screw loose. There is lots of teh gay out there, and chances are, if bitbit was fruitful and multiplied, teh gay is in bitbit’s house!
Run and hide, bitbit!!
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:29 amI hereby confess, under threat of retaliation by those ‘others’,
that, yes, I am left handed. I faced the wrath of every
K-6 teacher as I struggled to produce penmanship in their style.
My Dad would ask, ‘why can’t you do it the ‘right’ way?
My Mother would say, ‘use the ‘proper’ hand, please’.
It’s tough growing up left-handed…then I had an epiphany…
I’m left wing! And proud of it!
One my actualization occurred, I was comfortable with me.
In fact, I’m leaning to the left as I keyboard.
If I used both hands equally, would I be amphibious?
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:30 amitttybittytittyblt should know that referencing comic books to justify hatred is not persuasive and it makes you look stupid.
You CC’s are absolutely disgusting to me. I have had several weekend mornings interrupted by these sick perverts trying to save my soul. They leave pretty quickly when I tear a page from their comic book and pick up dog crap from the lawn.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:30 am“[t]he Army can’t be sure some of its body armor met safety standards”
They can spend $10,000,000 dollars in pork on wood product like veneers, and research (For what we already know). And didn’t test the body armor to meet safety standards. Do we need to pay them twice to get done what should have been tested in the first place?.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:32 amPatrioticLiberalChristian Says:
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:20 am
ralph, bitblt considers “the breakdown of the social fabric caused by gay marriage” to be another self-evident truth…
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Say, mebbe that’s who Britney Spears or Newt Gingrich can blame next time one (note use of the word ONE, implying it is just ONE of several) of their marriages implodes.
“Dang, honey… it musta bin tha GAYS! We didn’t do nuttin’ wrong… whew… it’s tha GAYS!”
I know, I know, Britney’s only been married once… but whatta entertaining fiasco, ‘n you just KNOW there’s more ta come.
‘N don’t get me started ’bout her little sister…
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:32 amZimzone Says:
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:30 am
If I used both hands equally, would I be amphibious?
I believe the word you’re looking for is “ambihoosis.”
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:32 amPeople are afraid to say they’re gay, and who can blame them?”
How could one believe any poll that relies on people to self-identify themselves as members of a group that the majority of Americans (sadly) consider aberrent behavior? If one is using polling to achieve this statistic, I’m curious what the stat is for pedophiles?
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:33 amAw, Zooey, You’re making me cry. I know you gals are good mothers. We grew up understanding that we could trust our doctors. They changed that behind our backs. We no longer allow any of our family members, especially really sick or fevered, to see a doctor alone….it is really sad.
We need real health care!!
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:34 amI don’t give a crap if the entire state of Oklahoma showed up for Sally Kern. They are wrong.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:35 ambarfly Says: April 3rd, 2008 at 11:33 am
If one is using polling to achieve this statistic, I’m curious what the stat is for pedophiles?
11 out of 10 Neocons are pedophiles is what I’ve heard.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:35 amFred
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:34 am
You’re a sweetie, Fred. I stopped feeling guilty about that a long time ago, but I know parents who haven’t forgiven themselves. It’s sad…
Later all!
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:40 amTROS, I almost hate to admit that I know this, but Spears has been married twice. She had that one or two day marriage performed late one night in a Las Vegas “chapel”. And, of course, she’s a Bush supporter (there must be an “athletic supporter” joke in there somewhere).
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:41 amHuh. WorldNetDaily…?
Aren’t those the same folks who brought us “Bat Boy”…?
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:42 ambitblt Says:
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:51 am
Regardless, this doesn’t change anything about the societal decline caused by homosexuality.
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You state this as if it’s a fact, yet you give nothing to support this statement. Care to justify it?
Since homosexuality has been around for a long, long time, does this mean society has always been “declined”?
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:44 am“a senior Republican came to him” to derail the bill, saying that Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) “didn’t want to deal with immigration this year.”
The Pander Express would be derailed if any immigration solution were actually voted on, approved and implemented.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:45 amSocietal decline? We got no stinkin societal decline!
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:45 am#85 Zooey-
It’s not your fault, we did what we were told to do. I did the same thing. We can’t blame ourselves for their experimenting. There is no excuse. That preservative saved them money. It didn’t test well in the labs, they should have known better.
It is shame on them again for putting money ahead of the welfare of our children.
As a FOOTNOTE: They are using Thirmasol in Flu Vaccines for children. I couldn’t believe it when I heard it but it’s true. I have never let my children get flu vaccines. But that was because my grandparents had such bad reactions to them.
I wish you the best with your son. They are truly special people.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:48 amralph the wonder llama Says:
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:36 am
PatrioticLiberalChristian Says:
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:31 am
It is estimated that only 2% of Americans have natural red hair, less than the number of homosexuals by any estimate. And yet, these abnormal people are allowed to marry, to teach our children, and to preach from our pulpits.
But, PLC, what abut those sinister LEFT-HANDERS??? They comprise about 10% of the population and they demand special scissors! They’re far worse than terrorists, yet they walk freely among us!
Dang, Ralph!!
I am BOTH red-haired AND left-handed. :o/
I had better surrender myself at Gitmo IMMEDIATELY.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:48 amt]he Army can’t be sure some of its body armor met safety standards” because “nearly half of the Army’s contractors did not perform the most basic test on the body armor before it was sent to our troops fighting overseas.”
Perhaps the contractors should perform “before and after” tests, with themselves as the “before” subjects, to see if they could stop bullets “before” donning the body armor.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:49 amLeftside Annie, I must confess, I have this ‘thing’ for left handed redheads!!!
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:50 am#95 Fred
I agree with Zooey you are a real Sweetheart. Thanks for caring…
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:50 ammisshusseinmolly Says:
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:44 am
Since homosexuality has been around for a long, long time, does this mean society has always been “declined”?
Of course, it’s been declining! Back in the good old cavemen days, marriage was the way God intended and all was right with the world. The Bushmen are just trying to restore the rightful place of women as the property, pleasure vessel, and heir maker of men as the Good Lord planned. Only then shall there be heaven and peace on earth. Amen.
/snark off. (that one hurt - I bit my tongue it was so firmly in cheek)
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:53 amAnd NATO told the chymp to stuff it with regards to allowing Ukraine and Georgia to join.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:53 amBut they do love his missile shield!
1. If the body armor issue isn’t bad enough, the Veterans Hospitals are deplorable.
2. They have needed updated for years.
3. And denying the veterans benefits for post tramatic shock syndrome. They are saying the they had a mental condition prior to entering the Armed Forces.
Oh! so let me get this straight, they were mentally sound to fight your battle. But, now that you need us …so long…
I consider that cruel and unusual punishment..
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:57 amHey, we have children too. I understand some of what you guys are going through….it is what real family values are, that’s all……
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:58 amFR, and the real beauty of the system is that by lowering the standards so much, many of the newly minted soldiers would have mental conditions prior to enlisting. Works for the Army, doesn’t it!
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:59 amRUCerious Says:
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:53 am
And NATO told the chymp to stuff it with regards to allowing Ukraine and Georgia to join.
But they do love his missile shield!
Is his missile shield similar to his codpiece?
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:00 pm#113RUCerious
That is so TRUE!!!
We need to send them all out in the new improved untested body armor!!!
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:05 pmThis administration’s lawyers completely ignored this phrase in the U.S. Constitution, Article II, Section 1. Instead, they concentrated on Section 2 of that same Article (The Commander in Chief bit)
“Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:–”I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:06 pmDoes anybody have a copy of Bush’s Master’s Thesis? Maybe this is how He envisioned running a country years ago. Perhaps he has taken the unregulated market concept into government: He does have an unregulated Presidency, thanks to the fact that Pelosi and Conyers took impeachment off the table.
I was just thinking about his MS thesis this morning. The person who wrote it for him may still have a copy.
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:09 pmDon’t we already have legislation in place that addresses the crime of rape?
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:13 pmIn Tom Robbins book, “Still Life With Woodpecker”, the protagonist is a red haired left handed bomb expert.
L. Hussein Annie, your room at Gitmo is ready.
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:13 pmI would have never imagined this country free-falling into the dark abyss so quickly! It only takes an idiot and 2 stolen elections, fueled by a never ending failed criminal war. And there we have it folks! America cursed beyond belief. Way past the point of no return!
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:16 pmMs_Joanne Says:
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:17 am
I read this last night and I have to say it’s scaring the crap out of me.
This brings us to the leaked news of the next US attack that is still pending against Iran, scheduled for 4 am on the morning of April 6th that is scheduled to last until 4 pm of that same day. “The first reactor at the Bushehr nuclear plant, where Russian engineers are working, is supposed to be spared from destruction. The US attack plan reportedly calls for the Iranian air defense system to be degraded, for numerous Iranian warships to be sunk in the Persian Gulf, and for the most important headquarters of the Iranian armed forces to be wiped out.
Someone please tell me I am being paranoid for no reason!
I hope this is paranoia and not reality, that’s for sure. But it could explain Admiral Fallon’s swift departure, because he has sworn this wouldn’t happen on his watch.
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:45 pm“What did we miss? Let us know in the comments section.”
GOP Rep.Issa under fire from everywhere after 9/11 comments
New York Daily News
Thursday, April 3rd 2008,
WASHINGTON - The California congressman who called the Sept. 11 attacks “simply” a plane crash ran for cover Wednesday under a barrage of ridicule from fellow Republicans, first responders and victims’ families.
San Diego GOP Rep. Darrell Issa was under siege for suggesting the federal government had already done enough to help New York cope with “a fire” that “simply was an aircraft” hitting the World Trade Center.
“That is a pretty distorted view of things,” said Frank Fraone, a Menlo Park, Calif., fire chief who led a 67-man crew at Ground Zero. “Whether they’re a couple of planes or a couple of missiles, they still did the same damage.”
“New York was attacked by Al Qaeda. It doesn’t have to be attacked by Congress,” added Long Island Rep. Pete King, a Republican.
Lorie Van Aucken, who lost her husband, Kenneth, in the attacks, slammed Issa’s “cruel and heartless” comments.
“It’s really discouraging. People stepped up and did the right thing. They sacrificed themselves and now a lot of people are getting really horrible illnesses,” she added…
“It seems that with the passage of time, something happened along the way where the scope of the problem and the real extent of the problem has not drifted out to California,” fumed Staten Island GOP Rep. Vito Fossella.
http://www.nydailynews.com/ news/ 2008/ 04/ 03/ 2008-04-03_gop_rep_darrell_issa_under_fire_from_eve.html
April 3rd, 2008 at 1:06 pmThanks for picking up on this Ex.
April 3rd, 2008 at 1:52 pmbarfly Says:
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:24 am
And bitblt (from your link):
Homosexuals enjoy the same civil rights everyone else does.
Except the right to marry, and a long list of other things.
Not exactly an unbiased site, going by their language.
It’s not an unbiased site. The writings at this site are from a Christian world view.
Marriage is not a civil right. Law did not establish marriage.
Government doesn’t permit it, and a man and a woman who are to be married don’t ask permission of the government.
It’s incidental but marriage is older than either government or religion.
Government keeps a record and requires some health tests- this is in the interest of the government, but a man and a woman can be married without either.
The government record – the marriage license – is somewhat more advanced than simply recording the record of the marriage in the parish Bible. It’s still a marriage whether you have to go to the court house or to the parish church.
A man and a woman are married when they declare they are married.
April 3rd, 2008 at 1:55 pmL. Hussein Annie Says:
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:48 am
I am BOTH red-haired AND left-handed. :o/
I had better surrender myself at Gitmo IMMEDIATELY.
Left-handed ginger!? **runs screaming from room**
April 3rd, 2008 at 1:58 pmF_ck off, bitbit.
Marriage is a legal contract — just try getting (legally) married or (legally) divorced without the state being involved.
Or just try DECLARING you’re divorced to the IRS, bill collectors, etc.
April 3rd, 2008 at 2:02 pm#123,
Thanks, RUCerious….I went to the Daily News (my old hometown paper) Web site to read up on my Mets and saw this…I couldn’t believe what I was reading. Issa is an insensitive fool.
April 3rd, 2008 at 2:12 pmbitblt
no one is interested in your religious philosophy. We are interested in people who make a lifetime commitment to each other….something that most religious marriages seem unable to be sucessful at……should be able to share bank accounts, health care, social security, etc.
It really has nothing whatsoever to do with your religion…..you don’t need a religion to get married. You just want to control peoples lives and you can’t even run your own………..
April 3rd, 2008 at 2:26 pmFred Says:
April 3rd, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Sorry you misunderstood, Fred. The reference to the Parish Bible was not about religion. It was about record keeping.
It must have not been very plain.
Since bitblt said that marriage was older than either religion or government, it must not have anything to do with either.
Believe this means we agree.
It really has nothing whatsoever to do with your religion…..you don’t need a religion to get married.
And as to the
You just want to control peoples lives and you can’t even run your own………..
You’re about as mistaken as you could possibly be. bitblt only wants to control his own life. On the other hand, he’s not interested in having perversion be an influence in his life or in the lives of the people he cares about.
April 3rd, 2008 at 2:33 pmRandi Rhodes suspended from Air America
http://airamerica.com
April 3rd, 2008 at 2:45 pmMarriage is not a civil right. Law did not establish marriage.
In America, we have the right to equal protection under the law. That means there are no “second-class citizens,” who can be denied the rights we all enjoy. And who cares who “established” marriage. The point is that in America, constitutional law trumps all - and gays should be afforded the exact same rights as everyone else - which isn’t the caes today.
April 3rd, 2008 at 2:47 pmOn the other hand, he’s not interested in having perversion be an influence in his life or in the lives of the people he cares about.
And a case can well be made that your views on gays are in fact a perversion of Christianity, so “perversion” is in the eye of the beholder.
April 3rd, 2008 at 2:49 pmGovernment doesn’t permit it, and a man and a woman who are to be married don’t ask permission of the government.
So what are marriage licenses? Just semantic niceties? Or do they carry the force of law?
April 3rd, 2008 at 2:52 pmbitblt Says:
I guess you don’t see how contradictory your statements are…….
April 3rd, 2008 at 4:23 pmPerversion is in the eye of the beholder isn’t it bitethebullet? I think the Crusaders who come by and disturb my peace on a Sunday morning to tell me I am going to hell are much more perverted than my next door neighbors who are both female and quite happy.
What this great country needs is a nuisance law that would allow a citizen who is disturbed by these religious perverts to tazer and pepper spray them when they leave the curb.
You, bitblt, are a twisted pervert who should not be allowed near other humans in case the sickness in your thought structure spreads.
April 3rd, 2008 at 4:35 pmATLANTA - About 1 in 50 U.S. infants is a victim of nonfatal child abuse or neglect in a year, according to the first national study of the problem in that age group.
The study focused on children younger than 1 year, and found
nearly a third were one week old or younger when the abuse or neglect occurred.
“It is a particularly vulnerable group,” said study co-author Rebecca Leeb, of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
The researchers counted more than 91,000 infant victims of abuse and neglect in the period Oct. 1, 2005 to Sept. 30, 2006.
The information came from a national data base of cases verified by protective services agencies in 45 states, the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico.
This is very, very alarming. I grew up like many without any how-to books. It had to do with COMMON SENSE. If you weren’t sure call your MOM or the Doctor to double check. How could anyone possibly neglect a baby that is less than one week old or any age for that matter….makes me want to cry..
April 3rd, 2008 at 4:37 pmbarfly Says:
April 3rd, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Government doesn’t permit it, and a man and a woman who are to be married don’t ask permission of the government.
So what are marriage licenses? Just semantic niceties? Or do they carry the force of law?
A marriage license is sort of the modern version of the parish Bible where births, deaths, and marriages were recorded. Also, people use to record this information in family Bibles. Now licenses are recorded at the country courthouse.
A marriage license is more of a record of the declaration of intent to live together as man and wife than anything.
If there is never a dispute over property, other assets or responsibility for the children, one c