Comments on: Ignoring Uptick In Iraq Violence, Lieberman And Graham Accuse War Critics Of ‘A Crisis Of Credibility’

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By: George C.

George C. — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 01:23:24 +0000

While I believe its a given that Graham is a corrupt confidence man, i have enormous contempt for Leiberman. He is the worst kind of politician because he is both corrupt and is driven by a Israeli-centric, neo-con agenda. The suffering of our own troops and the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians caused by this misguided war means NOTHING to him. This is a true creep.

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March 26, 2008
AMBASSADOR CROCKER: “Well, let me start by saying that the premise that drives what we do right now is the principle of conditions based withdrawals, that we look at conditions and then decide whether and how that permits us to reduce our force levels. And as you know, by this July, we’ll be basically back to where we were before the surge started, not nec e2000 battery,nec op-570-75303 battery exactly but close. That’s what conditions based withdrawals mean.”

By: rondank

rondank — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:31:59 +0000

It seems logical that violence will decrease if everyone is dead.

Lieberman will set next to Bush & Cheney at the Hague during their war crimes trial.

By: Robt

Robt — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 06:43:24 +0000

Hey,
Some send the memo to Lindsey that informs him that President Bush says ” I don’t think you can win IT “…

By: Don Bacon

Don Bacon — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 03:54:40 +0000

from US embassy Baghdad
March 27, 2008
This is to notify all U.S. citizens in Iraq that the U.S. Embassy has announced that, until further notice, all personnel under the authority of the Chief of Mission are required to wear body armor, helmet and protective eyewear anytime they are outside of building structures in the International Zone. In addition, Chief of Mission personnel in the International Zone have been advised to remain inside of hardened structures at all times, except for mission essential movements. The Department of State continues to strongly warn U.S. citizens against travel to Iraq, which remains very dangerous.
http://iraq.usembassy.gov/warden_message_03282008.html

from March 2008 Report to Congress
Anbar Province, supposedly a surge-success because of The Awakening, is only “Partially Ready For Transition.”
http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/pdfs/Master%20%20Mar08%20-%20final%20signed.pdf

Crocker says the conditions in Iraq are no better than they were a year ago.
March 26, 2008
AMBASSADOR CROCKER: “Well, let me start by saying that the premise that drives what we do right now is the principle of conditions based withdrawals, that we look at conditions and then decide whether and how that permits us to reduce our force levels. And as you know, by this July, we’ll be basically back to where we were before the surge started, not exactly but close. That’s what conditions based withdrawals mean.”"
http://iraq.usembassy.gov/remarks_com_03262008.html

By: robert.waldmann

robert.waldmann — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 23:34:03 +0000

The claim of a 90% decline is not consistent with data from independent sources. Iraq body count has a 50% decline from June 2007 to December 2007.

Importantly, deaths as reported to congress by Petraeus (that is from coalition and Iraqi government sources) are reported with a lag. Thus the final number for a given month is higher than the number calculated one month later. This means that a constant true death rate would always give reported deaths which have declined in recent months.

On September 11 2007, Petraeus compared the most current death rate (August 2007) to a peak in late 2006. Now the peak appears to be June 2007. No honest person would report the final count for the distant past and deaths counted so far for the recent past.

By: I. B. Leary

I. B. Leary — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 23:18:57 +0000

Coo Coo, Coo Coo

By: Nashoba nowa

Nashoba nowa — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:11:50 +0000

It seems that we have now turned from a War of Occupation to fighting in the Civil War among the Iraqi Peoples on behalf of the puppet government supported by the Bush Administration. Absolutely sickening to keep hearing their spin placed on this debacle. This farce will continue with us spending 12 billion dollars a month to keep it going, as well as more deaths and wounding of American soldiers, not counting many many more dead Iraqi people. The lies, arrogance, and deceit continue unbated out of Washington.

By: BrianFL

BrianFL — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:42:30 +0000

I know Lieberman is not technically a Democrat anymore, but he is a member of the Democratic Caucus. Can’t he be kicked out of the Democratic Caucus? The Democrats should seriously consider it. Remove his committee assignments. Stip away whatever power they can from this absolute traitor. Don’t let the Republicans use him at their convention to endorse McCain the same way Bush used Zell Miller.

At this point, Lieberman is probably leaking any information he hears in the Democratic Caucus to Republicans like McCain and Bush.

By: conniptionfit

conniptionfit — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:08:52 +0000

Those two are so full of sh*t, their eyes are brown. (With apologies to all you lovely brown-eyed folks out there!)

By: tombaker

tombaker — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:53:08 +0000

36 – Don’t forget the Iraqi Christian community, which is also now shattered and displaced.

By: regular_joe

regular_joe — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:52:22 +0000

Before accusing their political opponents of “a crisis of credibility,” Lieberman and Graham should make sure their arguments don’t undermine their own credibility.

Lieberman and Graham have credibility??

Since when?

By: tombaker

tombaker — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:52:21 +0000

To whom are Lieberman and Graham “credible”? The credulous, perhaps?

By: galmud

galmud — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:48:54 +0000

#5 McWars Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 11:20 am

What did putting thousands of additional troops into harms way have to do with the temporary reduction in violence? You had to pay people to stop killing. Face it wingnuts, that was your strategy.

As I understand it the extra American troops completed the forced ethnical seggregation of Baghdad during the summer of 2007.

Baghdad used to be a mixed city Sunnis and Shiites living side by side. Now Bagdhdad is a Shia city, very few Sunnis living in Sunni-only pockets, and the neighborhoods are enclosed by walls. So obviously secterian violence dropped, because there are no more Sunnis to kill, or Sunnis fighting Shiites

By: Freedom Rebel

Freedom Rebel — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:44:15 +0000

“We are no longer staring into the abyss of defeat, and we can now look ahead to the genuine prospect of success,” McCain said in a speech prepared for delivery Monday.

They are all three smokin’ some pretty powerful stuff.. Is this like the Wizard of Oz were Dorthy clips her heels together three times.?

By: Chuck U. Farley

Chuck U. Farley — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:39:06 +0000

721 casualties in February to 1,082 in March is a 50% increase, not 25% 0r 30%…and who is “Smith?”

By: MCMetal

MCMetal — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:26:06 +0000

Writing in the Wall Street Journal today, Sens. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) accuse critics of the Iraq war of facing “a crisis of credibility” because they “confidently predicted the failure of the surge.” But in their effort to argue that anti-war critics have “been proven decidedly wrong,” Lieberman and Graham undermine their own credibility on the issue by ignoring recent developments in the war-torn country.

And in the meantime , let’s ignore the first 5 years and what occurred in Iraq and those of us who have been Chimpy leg humpers from the get-go ………….

By: Fred

Fred — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:22:12 +0000

Kilo Says:

Kilo, you obviously aren’t too worried about your own credibility either…..is that a requirement to be a right winger? flagged on sight.

By: hgs3

hgs3 — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:19:55 +0000

In the words of James Carville ” If you’re explaining you’re losing “