Despite His Votes To Cut Veterans Funding, McCain Says We Owe Vets ‘A Debt We Can Never Repay’
Despite His Votes To Cut Veterans Funding, McCain Says We Owe Vets ‘A Debt We Can Never Repay’
Today, Sen. John McCain spoke to the Veterans of Foreign Wars in Kansas City, MO. He spoke at length about the sacrifice paid by U.S. soldiers in Iraq, acknowledging “how little has been asked of others compared to their service” and declaring that the nation owes veterans “a debt that we can never fully repay.”
He also said that veterans should have access to “the highest quality health…care in the world” upon returning:
As President, I will do everything in my power to ensure that those who serve today and those who have served in the past have access to the highest quality health, mental health and rehabilitative care in the world. The disgrace of Walter Reed must not be forgotten. … Whatever our commitments to veterans cost, we will keep them, as you have kept every commitment to us. The honor of a great nation is at stake.
Watch it:
Not only has he refused to support the 21st Century GI Bill, which the Veterans of Foreign Wars endorsed last June, he has consistently voted against increasing funding for the Veterans’ Administration, which oversees all medical care for veterans:
– Voted AGAINST an amendment providing $20 billion to the VA’s medical facilities. [5/4/06]
– Voted AGAINST providing $430 million to the VA for outpatient care “and treatment for veterans,” one of only 13 senators to do so. [4/26/06]
– Voted AGAINST increasing VA funding by $1.5 billion by closing corporate loopholes. [3/14/06]
– Voted AGAINST increasing VA funding by $1.8 billion by ending “abusive tax loopholes.” [3/10/04]
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Voted AGAINST FOR a $650 million increase in veterans’ medical care funding.[8/1/01]
Though McCain has derided progressive universal health care plans as “a government takeover,” he is mum on the success of the VA, a government-run, integrated approach that, as Paul Krugman put it, is “one of the few clear American success stories in the struggle to contain health care costs.”
McCain’s zero-regulation, every-man-for-himself approach to health insurance would in effect “dismantle” the VA — what Krugman calls “a completely wrongheaded approach to health care.”
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He says he for the troops, but only as long as they don’t cost money, then they have bridges for them to sleep under. And of course he is more than willing to give as much money as he can for war, I mean, jeez, Five deferment Dick needs to make those WAR PROFITS.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:13 pmThe hypocrisy of this man is astounding.
If the main stream media didn’t have a woody for him, he’d be laughed out of the race…..
April 7th, 2008 at 1:15 pmMcStupid :”Why do these Vets need anything ? They should follow in my footsteps and go out and marry a cash cow like I did ; even if it means leaving their present wife and/or family”…………….
April 7th, 2008 at 1:16 pmSo what McCain is really saying is “we can’t repay the debt we owe to our vets, so why try?”
April 7th, 2008 at 1:17 pmIs it not possible to get anyone close enough to this liar at an event to ask him these questions?Preferably with a camera so we can document his lies.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:18 pmGrampus McBush sez, “I support the troops —- because I SAY I do!!!!! So STFU, you young whippersnappers!!”
April 7th, 2008 at 1:19 pmA debt they chose not to repay unless they can figure how to dump it on future generations of WORKING CLASS AMERICANS.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:20 pmEvery man for himself health insurance is a dump on the greater public, not just the VA. Employers want badly to jettison that pesky health insurance benefit and a bi-partisan team of Senators lined up last year to grease the skids. McCain’s plan builds on that intended profit boost for U.S. corporations.
As for the effectiveness of government contracting, what makes McCain think the VA can design and execute better contracts than the Pentagon? How about those cost plus, indefinite quantity, indefinite delivery contracts? Or those 5 year emergency contracts?
John, first you have to execute with what you have now! Not credible…
April 7th, 2008 at 1:20 pmMcCain’s zero-regulation, every-man-for-himself approach to health insurance would in effect “dismantle” the VA — what Krugman calls “a completely wrongheaded approach to health care.”
Of course he does.
McShitstain married a wealthy , empty-headed bim , and he also has comprehensive medical care thanks to his being a politician ; health care that is perhaps 2nd to none in the US today.
It’s the old “I got mine , go get yours”
April 7th, 2008 at 1:22 pm, philosophy ; how quaint and genteel ……..
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As long as McTORTURE is on the job, we will ALWAYS have a debt that can never be repaid.
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April 7th, 2008 at 1:23 pmJudging from hos voting record, McWirestouching is bummed that so many of the soldiers in Iraq survive those horrible head injuries and limb severed injuries and will continue to remind Americans for years to come of the real cost of Bush’s War.
In his day, those kids would have died in the jungle and would have served their God given purpose as propoganda to push for more kids dying so the previous ones didn’t die in vain.
Now the bastards survive, we have to pay for their care forever and a day, and worse yet, they are able to express their opinion that Bush sucks and anyone who supports his war should rot in Hell.
Sorry John, we are going to elect a Democrat for President. Someone who cares for the kids, not the oil.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:23 pmSo hey, Wrong_Stuff …how about you tell us why you support torture…?
Until then, STFU.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:24 pmThe_Right_Stuff Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
This is oversimplified and misleading. Just take the first example:
“– Voted AGAINST an amendment providing $20 billion to the VA’s medical facilities. [5/4/06].”
There were 58 other NAY votes in the Senate including Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Ed Kennedy, Harry Reid, etc….
In fact, most of the YEA votes were Republicans.
http://www.senate.gov/ legislative/ LIS/ roll_call_lists/ roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00111#position
So why did the Democrats vote against the Veterans? Care to explain?
Care to explain why you zeroed in on that 1 particular bill only , Powder Puff ?
How many of those Dems you cited voted “Nay” on the other bills listed , skid mark ?
April 7th, 2008 at 1:24 pmMcCain is delusional, out of touch, jingoistic, OLD goofball. Fit for drinking partner of Homer Simpson, not POTUS.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:24 pmThe debt we can never repay is a romanticized debt of a romanticized war. It is has no basis in reality and that is why he likes it so much. It does not exist and by its definition we can’t repay it so he can pay lip service to it and do nothing.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:25 pmMcCorpse is just another marionette whose strings will be pulled by the PNAC and free market neocons.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:26 pmThe_Right_Stuff Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
I think we should elect a President who actually has a kid serving in Iraq. Don’t you?
Not if it’s Duncan Hunter……….And No , BTW
Iraq was and always will be a lie ; why is it a necessity to have a president whose child is serving there ?
I’d prefer someone who has kids that were smart enough to not fall for propogandist bullshit ………..
April 7th, 2008 at 1:27 pmShorter McSame: I got mine, y’all f_ck off.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:28 pmPerhaps a bit more thought would be in order before taking on such a debt, Mr. “Bomb, bomb, bomb”.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:28 pmSorry John, we are going to elect a Democrat for President. Someone who cares for the kids, not the oil.
you’re kidding, right?
unless the troops come home from iraq covered in ‘victory,’ as the ww ii vets were, the ‘people’ will piss all over ‘em…just as they did after my war, 40 years ago…
johnson got the gi bill for my generation. nobody–not hrc, nor bho, and certainly not McStain–will work that hard for vets today…
April 7th, 2008 at 1:29 pmMcCain sez:Although I’m a vet, I’ve got mine. So F**K YOU!
April 7th, 2008 at 1:29 pmThe_Right_Stuff Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
I think we should elect a President who actually has a kid serving in Iraq. Don’t you?
Oh yeah, especially a guy who calls his wife a “trollop” and “c*nt.”
I can see why you’d like him.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:30 pmROFL. Is this the new reich-wing litmus test for electing a president? No wonder herr dubyah turned out to be an utter and complete failure. You “people” have zero insight to what it takes to be president. Thanks for proving that.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:31 pmj swift; anyone who has a romanticized view of war has seen way too many John Wanye/Rambo movies.
war sucks.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:32 pm.
Why should Johnny McTorture care, he’s already received his GI benefits.
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April 7th, 2008 at 1:32 pmZooey Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
The_Right_Stuff Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
I think we should elect a President who actually has a kid serving in Iraq. Don’t you?
Oh yeah, especially a guy who calls his wife a “trollop” and “c*nt.”
I can see why you’d like him.
Didn’t McStupid make that comment ?
Umm , he doesn’t have a kid serving in the military , does he………..?
April 7th, 2008 at 1:32 pmmanicare Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
We need a president who doesn’t want his kid punished with a baby!!
Don’t worry ; neither Hillary nor Obama want to adopt Chimpy ……………
April 7th, 2008 at 1:33 pmHiya Zooey; I didn’t read the other posts before I stuck my 2 cents in. Great minds think alike. (:-D)
April 7th, 2008 at 1:33 pm17 - yes - let’s elect Webb.
But let’s not elect someone who votes against the very thing he says is so important, no matter who his kid happens to be.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:36 pmAnother reich-winger who “thinks” they speak for the masses
April 7th, 2008 at 1:36 pmMCMetal
April 7th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
I thought the troll was talking about McCain. I thought McCain had a kid in Iraq, or at least he was there at some point. I could be wrong.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:37 pmUncle Ho
April 7th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
The greatest!!
April 7th, 2008 at 1:38 pmPresident Obama.
Has a good ring to it doesn’t it? You trolls might need to practice some, but you’ll get used to it. And after 8 years of saying President Obama, you will get real good at it.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:39 pmThe_Right_Stuff Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Interesting that Democrats/Liberals/Progressives/Socialists have been calling Republican leaders “Chickenhawks” for years saying that they can’t express a view on Iraq unless they have served in war and have a kid on the front lines. Now we have 3 candidates”
1. Mccain - decorated veteran and POW and has a kid on the front lines in Iraq;
2. Clinton - never served. No kids in Iraq.
3. Obama - never served. No kids in Iraq.
Now suddenly, none of that matters. IOKALAYAD
What the hell are you talking about ?
Which “kid” of McStupid’s is on the “front line in Iraq” ?
The black one that he had out-of-wedlock ?
April 7th, 2008 at 1:39 pmI think what Little Johnny McNumbNuts means is “we owe these vets a debt that we can’t and don’t intend to repay”.
He will introduce some fluffy, meaningless legislation about it . . . probably something called “No Soldier Left Behind”.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:39 pmSo? He’s still a terrible politician and a terrible American.
You reich-wingers blasted John Kerry’s veteran status. You reich-wing filth hate Vets. That is a fact.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:39 pmThe_Right_Stuff Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Interesting that Democrats/Liberals/Progressives/Socialists have been calling Republican leaders “Chickenhawks” for years saying that they can’t express a view on Iraq unless they have served in war and have a kid on the front lines. Now we have 3 candidates”
1. Mccain - decorated veteran and POW and has a kid on the front lines in Iraq;
2. Clinton - never served. No kids in Iraq.
3. Obama - never served. No kids in Iraq.
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I don’t recall anybody on either side of the ideology fence calling McCain a chickenhawk — his military record and his experience as a POW is well-known. It’s also known that he has one son serving in the military as a lance corporal in Iraq, and another one going to naval school.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:42 pmZooey Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
MCMetal
April 7th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
I thought the troll was talking about McCain. I thought McCain had a kid in Iraq, or at least he was there at some point. I could be wrong.
If it is , it’s from his 1st marriage ; you remember that , don’t you ?
The woman he left after cheating on repeatedly (and who was seriously ill at the time) and who cared and nurtured their children while he was away …….
April 7th, 2008 at 1:42 pmWrong Shit;
John Kerry-served in combat
GW Bush- deserter
Dickhead Cheney- never served-5 draft deferments
Billy bob Kristol-never served-another draft-dodging coward.
John soaring eagle-never served 7 draft deferments
Rush Limpdick-never served(pimple on ass- which others had & served)
should I continue?
April 7th, 2008 at 1:42 pmThe_Right_Stuff Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Interesting that Democrats/Liberals/Progressives/Socialists have been calling Republican leaders “Chickenhawks” for years saying that they can’t express a view on Iraq unless they have served in war and have a kid on the front lines. Now we have 3 candidates”
Ahhhh, the right stuff, huh? Um, no - the wrong stuff. Try to follow along with the adults:
Chickenhawks are the politicians who send other people to fight the wars they start - without fighting them themselves. Who on your list wants to invade Iraq and Iran?
April 7th, 2008 at 1:44 pmThe_Right_Stuff Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
30. Yes, McMetal, he does have a kid in the military. Lance Corporal McCain enlisted in the Marines at 17, served a tour in Iraq and is heading back. Sen. McCain generally keeps quiet about this.
http://www.nytimes.com/ 2008/ 04/ 06/ us/ politics/ 06mccain.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
Yeah , the stupid old skid mark “keeps quiet” about him because the kid feels the same way towards his scumbag father the way Fruity Rudy Drooliani’s feel about their piece of shit old man …………
April 7th, 2008 at 1:45 pmThe right wing loves Vets who help perpetuate the myth of staying in Iraq. They however equate any Vet who speaks against the war with suicide bombers. How very nice of them.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:45 pmMCMetal
April 7th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Oh yeah, the woman who was in a serious car accident while McCain was in the POW camp, but didn’t tell him because she wanted to protect him from the worries of home.
I remember her. I can see why The Wrong Stuff admires him.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:46 pmMcLame is, by definition, a warmongering senile anti-American lowlife that is incapable of being president. He was failed as a pilot in war, he’s a failure as a politician, he is a failure for the Vets, and he is a failure for this country.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:46 pmYou reich-wingers blasted Kerry’s service. You hypocrite.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:47 pmMcCain is not a chickenhawk, he’s simply a WARMONGER.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:47 pmThe_Right_Stuff Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
44. Sure, Uncle Ho. Keep going until you reach Clinton and Obama and their lack of service.
If I were a flag-humper like you, I’d avoid the subject of a “lack of service.”
Your chimp in Chief deserted, and his puppet master got by on 5 deferments.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:47 pmMc100yearwar has been consistently wrong on Iraq. America knows this. Mc100yearwar is unfit to lead this country.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:49 pmwrong shit says keep going until you reach Clinton and their lack of service
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So?
April 7th, 2008 at 1:49 pmThe_Right_Stuff Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
47. Apparantly, you didn’t take time to read the article. So typical for a “Progressive.”
And so typical of a GOP/Chimpy leg humping sycophant , you post a link to an article glowing about McStupid penned by the Times’ friggin’ ART EDITOR.
Anything to make your group of incompetent nitwits appear relevant and electable , eh Powder Puff ?
BTW
Why is it that you never hear anything about McShitstain’s “other” kids ?
You remember them ? From his 1st wife that he cheated on and left …………..
April 7th, 2008 at 1:51 pmLast time I checked neither Obama, or Clinton were planning on perpetuating the war for a 100 years. Obama has been consistent about speaking against the Iraq war. Sorry labeling him a chickenhawk doesn’t work. Bush,Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Rush, et al on the other hand…
April 7th, 2008 at 1:53 pmWRONG SHIT is now defending the swift boaters. What a miserable excuse for an American.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:53 pmThe_Right_Stuff Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Not true. The Swift Boat Veterans blasted Kerry for the many lies he told about his 4 months of service in Viet Nam.
Well, well, it’s goon_golly reposting for the nth time the thoroughly discredited claims.
Did you think we’d all forgotten this?: http://swiftvets.eriposte.com/
April 7th, 2008 at 1:54 pmThe_Right_Stuff Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
The_Right_Stuff Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
44. Sure, Uncle Ho. Keep going until you reach Clinton and Obama and their lack of service.
You reich-wingers blasted Kerry’s service. You hypocrite.
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Not true. The Swift Boat Veterans blasted Kerry for the many lies he told about his 4 months of service in Viet Nam.
http://www.swiftvets.com/index.php
Yeah , it’s just too bad that the Swift Bpat Liars for Shrub were even more full of shit themselves ……..
BTW
The money that group make collectively worth smearing a known combat veteran in favor of an AWOL chickenshit moron ?
April 7th, 2008 at 1:55 pmjb Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
McCain is not a chickenhawk, he’s simply a WARMONGER
And as such, I can see nothing which qualifies him to live in our White House. Absolutely nothing. I admire his service, but that does not qualify him to be our next POTUS.
Now, if “right stuff” thinks McSame is qualified, so what? right stuff needs war mongers to provide his ‘glory’. if right stuff were patriotic, he wouldn;t be blogging here, now would he - he would be fighting for his country in the romantic battles which await him over there in the ME.
April 7th, 2008 at 1:55 pmmisshusseinmolly Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
The_Right_Stuff Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Interesting that Democrats/Liberals/Progressives/Socialists have been calling Republican leaders “Chickenhawks” for years saying that they can’t express a view on Iraq unless they have served in war and have a kid on the front lines. Now we have 3 candidates”
1. Mccain - decorated veteran and POW and has a kid on the front lines in Iraq;
2. Clinton - never served. No kids in Iraq.
3. Obama - never served. No kids in Iraq.
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Sorry, I accidentally hit the “submit” button before I was done.
You miss the point. McCain isn’t a chickenhawk, and nobody is calling him one. However, many Republicans and other warmongers are. And it’s not that they “can’t express a view on Iraq” — it’s beating the drums for war at a cost of American lives when they skated out of dangerous duty themselves that we find reprehensible. Cheney had five deferments. Dubya got a coveted position in the National Guard learning to fly a plane that had virtually no chance of being used in Vietnam. Limbaugh got exempted because of a pimple on his butt, of all things. Bill O’Reilly. Donald Rumsfeld. The list is long. Just because you find one war hawk who actually served in combat doesn’t nullify the term.
As far as the service records of Clinton and Obama — Obama came of age during peacetime, and neither Obama nor Clinton were subject to the draft. Furthermore, both Obama and Clinton oppose the war in Iraq, so they are not morally obligated to serve or have their children serve to fight a war they are against (besides, Obama’s kids a just a BIT young to serve).
I believe you were asked to provide a link that proved McCain’s son was actually fighting on “the front lines”. It’s known that Jimmy McCain is currently serving in Iraq, but we don’t know where, due to a news blackout to protect him. Are you just making an assumption that he’s fighting on the “front lines”, or can you prove that?
April 7th, 2008 at 1:56 pmgummitch Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Well, well, it’s goon_golly reposting for the nth time the thoroughly discredited claims.
That’s who that is.
Sheesh…
April 7th, 2008 at 1:56 pmIt doesn’t matter that he has a kid in the war. That’s a political means to an end - an option that few soldiers will ever get. He wants soldiers to be retained in the service - he, and the other warmongers in the military industrial complex, want to limit the economic freedom of military families. Just like drug dealers hooking their junkies on a life of dependency.
http://comedianforpresident.com/
April 7th, 2008 at 1:56 pm.
Hea y’all,
The_Right_Stuff is going to vote for a Commander in Chief while Americans are going to vote for a President of the United States of America because TRS thinks that the president IS the CIC of America.
What a frigging dolt!
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April 7th, 2008 at 1:57 pmOMG the wrong stuff still believes the swift-boaters…WHAT A ‘TARD! LMAO at this maroon.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:00 pmMcCain would most likely be dead without the fancy schmancy healthcare he gets from the GOVERNMENT. Is that an argument in favor or against Government managed healthcare?
April 7th, 2008 at 2:00 pmThe_Right_Stuff Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
60. McCain is not “planning on perpetuating the war for 100 years.” That is a horribly misconstrued mis-quote that Dean has chosen to make the Democratic party talking point/lie. What McCain said was it was not the amount of time we were in Iraq that mattered to the American people (one hundred, one thousand or one million years). What matters to the American people is the amount of American casualties, according to the discussion that has so-often been misquoted.
When your “plans” and vision(s) include permanent bases in a foreign land that you were not invaded by nor invited you to help , what are the odds that you will not suffer casualties for a century ?
About the same as you not being a completely stupid , nut hugging GOP tool , I’d guess……….
April 7th, 2008 at 2:00 pmIs McShame in favor of Chinese or Saudi bases on US soil?
April 7th, 2008 at 2:02 pmYup….typical reich-winger….claim you were taken out of context or blame the media. Predictable.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:03 pmThe_Right_Stuff Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
MissMolly:
http://www.nytimes.com/ 2008/ 04/ 06/ us/ politics/ 06mccain.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You post a link that has McStupid making claims about how the Dems’ plans for withdrawal are “reckless” ?
Because McInsane is what ?
A war historian ?
A veteran in ground warfare , or an expert of the same ?
How successful was he as a pilot , that he crashed 4 or 5 DIFFERENT PLANES , dipshit ?
That isn’t exactly the actions of a Patton or MacArthur there , GI Joke ……….
April 7th, 2008 at 2:04 pmThe SmearBoats have been thoroughly and completed discredited. Reich-wigners, in addition to SmearBoats, blasted Kerry’s service to this country. These are facts….you can’t deny them.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:05 pmThe_Right_Stuff is going to vote for a Commander in Chief while Americans are going to vote for a President of the United States of America because TRS thinks that the president IS the CIC of America.
What a frigging dolt!
That is the exact truth. right stuff wants to be told what to do, where to go, how to live, etc…The last gasp 19%r’s are the lousy americans who cannot think for themselves - they simply cannot. Without the words of their ‘leaders’ (limbaugh, o’reilly, hannity, beck, coulter, etc) they would not have one word to say. The right side used to be filled with brave and couragegous people, now they are all hiding under beds, scared of the furriners. A pathetic coward is all the right stuff is. He is a good spokesperson for the rest of the fraidy cats. Boo! See he just wet his pants….
April 7th, 2008 at 2:05 pmIt is not a war, never was. Invasion of a weak country and prolonged occupation for corporate control of resources.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:05 pmMcCain: 100 years in Iraq “would be fine with me”
April 7th, 2008 at 2:07 pmmanicare Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
misshusseinmolly Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Are you implying that anybody not fighting on the frontlines of the war is not putting their life in danger? I guess that’s easy to say sitting in the A/C eating cheetos!
Are you implying that you and Powder Puff aren’t chickenshit chickenhawks yourselves , rooting on an illegal (and stupid) invasion and occupation , yet refusing to participate in it ?
Afraid the “enemy” (whoever the hell they are) , will see the pair of yellow streaks , running up your acne-covered backs ?
Keep being part of that invaluable 82nd Keyboard Brigade , pansy ………..
April 7th, 2008 at 2:07 pmWhat does he care? McWalkingCane doesn’t go to the VA. He has free Blue Cross/Blue Shield.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:08 pmHe never told any lies. You are blasting and perverting his record right now! Thanks for proving to us you hate Vets.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:09 pmThe_Right_Stuff Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Kerry was not “blasted for his service to this Country.” He was blasted for the many lies he told about “his service to this Country.” If he would have just stuck to the truth, he would have been fine.
Prove that he lied.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:10 pm#84,
April 7th, 2008 at 2:10 pmWhy do you hate US war heros?
The_Right_Stuff Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Kerry was not “blasted for his service to this Country.” He was blasted for the many lies he told about “his service to this Country.” If he would have just stuck to the truth, he would have been fine.
Yeah
He should have just told everyone how he kept the whole country safe from the impending VC invasion by patrolling the Texas and Alabama borders , before going AWOL…………
April 7th, 2008 at 2:11 pmThe_Right_Stuff Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Kerry was not “blasted for his service to this Country.” He was blasted for the many lies he told about “his service to this Country.” If he would have just stuck to the truth, he would have been fine.
The only liar here is yourself. Please read the rebuttal information already posted on this thread before posting any more garbage about Kerry. When you’re done, we’ll all accept your apology.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:11 pmMcShame is bending to expound the propaganda of his Neo-Con captors.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:12 pmIf Johnny McMaverick and his supporters can’t take what they dished out for John Kerry, they have no business in the race.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:12 pmHere are classic examples of reich-winger ridiculing Kerry’s service.
http://img144.imageshack.us/ img144/ 9311/ 169bandaidf20d82evu1.jpg
http://img168.imageshack.us/ img168/ 121/ republicanpurpleheartf2wr7.jpg
The wrongstuff is exposed as an idiot….once again.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:13 pmOT, as usual the right wing is fine with troops, as long as those troops don’t ask for anything when they get shot up. After all we don’t want socialized healthcare. The thing is, if the VA was run effectively then it might give pause for the rest of the US to consider why we don’t have universal healthcare. Better that returning troops deal with injury and mental problems then allow the HMO’s to not make massive profits.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:13 pmThe Swift Boat pukes are accepted to be pure liars, by everyone but the 25%ers that still swear allegiance to their God Bush. It’s even accepted as a verb, as in “to be Swift Boated.”
Your credibility, Reich-Stuff has been flushed and is swimming with the Trojans and floaters. The same place the Swift Boat BS came from.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:14 pmmanicare Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
McCain has made less money than any candidate currently running! Obama and Hilary are both multi-millionaires!
That’s because only GOP tools like yourself and Powder Puff are interested in the bullshit ramblings of a below-average fighter pilot who insists on drooling out “My Friends” 500 times during every one of his boring speeches………..
April 7th, 2008 at 2:14 pmSorry wrongstuff, you blew it again. The smearboats have been discredited. You are liar and are quoting a liar. You can’t find any independent proof because none exists.
You are now *flagged*. You’ll be deleted soon.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:14 pmStart *flagging* the_wrong_stuff. Her time is up.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:15 pmThe_Right_Stuff
April 7th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Thoroughly discredited.
Nice try.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:15 pmThe_Right_Stuff Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
You try to prove a group’s legitimacy by providing a link to their web-site ?
That’s a real novel idea …………Stupid as hell , but novel , nevertheless.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:16 pmMore smearing of a vet by the reich-wing:
http://www.rantical.com/rantpix-02/bandaid.jpg
April 7th, 2008 at 2:16 pmmanicare Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
McCain has made less money than any candidate currently running! Obama and Hilary are both multi-millionaires!
McCain never did anything for himself with regard to his wealth. He left his wife on her death bed to marry a beer heiress. If it was left up to McSame, he wouldn’t have had enough money to even run for political office. His new wife’s wealth allowed him to do it.
BTW, there used to be a time in America where acquiring wealth - the legal kind - was a positive attribute. Now, it seems the more money a person accumulates, the more they have to explain. Dude, where’s my country?
April 7th, 2008 at 2:17 pmYou only have to explain where your money came from if your a democrat. Repblicans are allowed a free pass on that question.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:19 pmThe_Right_Stuff Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
shoeless Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
#84,
Why do you hate US war heros?
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I don’t. I admire them. Why do you hate US war heroes and POW’s like Sen. McCain? Why do you question Bush and his daughters “not serving” but fail to mention that Sen. McCain served and that his son has served and will serve in Iraq?
Because McShitstain isn’t the president (and never will be) , nor is his family the 1st family.
They also didn’t illegally invade and occupy a sovereign nation with no provocation based upon lies………….
April 7th, 2008 at 2:19 pmherr dubyah lost the popular vote too against Al Gore.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:20 pmMANICURE! ISSUES! Try to stay focused on the issues! I don’t give one rat shit how much candidates make, from selling books to speaking, to administering hospitals.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:20 pmI am a VietNam veteran, and this issue is extremely important to myself and both my brothers, who are also veterans.
So stay focused and address the issue of why McCain would utter such outright lies. Why do you give him a pass and focus on non-issues?/? When were you diagnosed with ADD?
He owes the vets “a debt we can never repay” and he has already begun not paying it – he won’t sign the GI bill, has already voted to cut benefits to veterans. If the debt cannot be repaid then there must be no sense to pay anything, right, John?
April 7th, 2008 at 2:20 pmBut support for the war industry? Give them anything they want; start wars everywhere that the machinery will be needed. Bring in the troops, but let’s not pay them too much, we have a budget to contend with. Right, John?\
You’re another reich-winger that “thinks” you speak for the masses. How typical of your delusional crowd.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:21 pmThe_Right_Stuff Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Kerry lost the popular vote. Apparantly, people believed the Veterans.
And the country has neve been in better shape, right? You are such a moron. You gleefully tell us about Kerry losing the pop vote, and then we see your idiot in chief ruin this once fine country. Just how out of touch are you? You cannot take pleasure in kerry losing, if the result of that loss was that Dumbya was installed by the SCOTUS as our king. Geez, do try and keep up.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:21 pmMc100yearwas isn’t a “war hero”. He failed in war. He was shot down. He didn’t and couldn’t complete his mission. He’s a failure.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:22 pmmanicare Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
MCMetal Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
I guess it’s easier for filthy rich people to understand everyday middle class struggles.
Obama funded his own way through school ; Hillary was married to a former president who was from a dirt-poor enviroment , who became a Rhodes Scholar.
McShitstain’s father and grand-father were both Navy admirals , and McSkidmark finshed 3rd from the bottom of his naval graduating class of almost 600 , I believe.
Who is it that understands the “middle class” better , chucklehead ?
April 7th, 2008 at 2:22 pmthis thread offers a couple of Krugman quotes.
Krugman is known for his partisanship. Many liberals would name Paul Krug-man of The New York Times as perhaps the most consistent and courageous—and unapologetic—liberal partisan in American journalism. He has made his perspective on the Bush administration and the contemporary right, and on the need to see politics as a battle, manifestly clear in column after incendiary column. Indeed, of all the ways he could have concluded The Conscience of a Liberal, he chose to do so with a short essay that appears under the headline “On Being Partisan,” which notes:
The central fact of modern American political life is the control of the Republican Party by movement conservatives, whose vision of what America should be is completely antithetical to that of the progressive movement. Because of that control, the notion, beloved of political pundits, that we can make progress through bipartisan consensus is simply foolish….
To be a progressive, then, means being a partisan—at least for now. The only way a progressive agenda can be enacted is if Democrats have both the presidency and a large enough majority in Congress to overcome Republican opposition.
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April 7th, 2008 at 2:23 pmWouldn’t it be more credible if the threads could use other (or maybe multiple) economists, as credible sources?
The_Right_Stuff Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Kerry lost the popular vote. Apparantly, people believed the Veterans.
So , because people are easily duped makes the side that duped them truthful ?
How “truthful” were Chimpy’s lies about Iraq/Saddam , shithead ?
You’re friggin’ brainless ………..
April 7th, 2008 at 2:24 pmsorry, tried to make a link of the Krugman info, but screwed it up.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:24 pmCan any of our trolls explain why mccain voted to cut veterans funding?
I’m flagging any trolls from this point on that aren’t on topic. You have dominated this thread with your bs long enough..
April 7th, 2008 at 2:24 pmStuffedRightNot obviously is too young to remember how the rethugs persecuted Bill Clinton for not serving in Viet Nam starting the whole issue of service in the millitary. Of course they also persecuted him for admitting he tried marijuana and then embraced the AWOL, drunken, coke head, W. Of course IOKIYAR.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:25 pmI guess McCain believes we owe vets a debt we cannot ever repay so why even try!
April 7th, 2008 at 2:26 pmbackup Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Wouldn’t it be more credible if the threads could use other (or maybe multiple) economists, as credible sources?
What economist beholden to the GOP and Chimpy’s administration specifically , is going to deviate away from their message that all is still wonderful and rosey , and how is that in any way relevant or even worth viewing ?
For the inherent comedic value ?
April 7th, 2008 at 2:27 pmbackup
don’t start trying to label liberals as partisan……there has never been a more divided time in the history of the united states and that includes vien nam era. All thanks to the bitter partisanship of the gop….get back on topic.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:28 pmIt is truly amazing, and a testament to the incredible thick-skulled arrogance of the few remaining Bush worshippers that they still continue to spout the completely debunked lies of the despicable Swift Boaters long after their name has entered the general lexicon to define those who would tell any lie in order to smear honorable people.
Swiftboating is American political jargon that is used (primarily) as a strong pejorative description of some kind of attack that the speaker considers unfair or untrue—for example, an ad hominem attack or a smear campaign. It is now in mainstream use.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:28 pmmanicare Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
StratRat Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
You Progressive ideologue seams to contradict your statements about wealth. I’m just using the negative connotation your side has given wealth in America.
Hey Corky
The bulk of the Clinton’s wealth has been amassed by Bill , from all his speaking engagements .
Regardless of what you (stupidly) may think of him , he is easily the best speaker as far as politicians go , since JFK.
No one progressive is “upset” at someone EARNING their fortune ; what has Chimpy ever “earned” , if you would care to answer …………………..
April 7th, 2008 at 2:30 pmSwiftboating means lying to hide the facts……same thing the bush admin does every day…
it’s a right wing skill……they put it on their resume instead of evidence that they can do anything constructive.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:31 pmBy crashing 5 US planes, McCain is a North Vietnamese Ace.
no wonder he wants to cut VA funding, he’s a commie agent!
April 7th, 2008 at 2:32 pmI think we should elect a President who actually has a kid serving in Iraq. Don’t you?
Sure, how about President Jim Webb.
WTF does having a kid in Iraq have to do with who we should vote for? Typical troll logic.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:35 pmI didn’t know that. Thanks Uncle Ho.
McCain lost five U.S. Navy aircraft
Navy pilot John Sidney McCain III should have never been allowed to graduate from the U.S. Navy flight school. He was a below average student and a lousy pilot. Had his father and grandfather not been famous four star U.S. Navy admirals, McCain III would have never been allowed in the cockpit of a military aircraft.
During his relative short stunt on flight status, McCain III lost five U.S. Navy aircraft, four in accidents and one in combat.
Robert Timberg, author of The Nightingale’s Song, a book about Annapolis graduates and their tours in Vietnam, wrote that McCain “learned to fly at Pensacola, though his performance was below par, at best good enough to get by. He liked flying, but didn’t love it.”
April 7th, 2008 at 2:37 pmThat’s right, McCain’s wife has the money. After all the classes self admitted “worst student” is hardly going to make any money writing books. W inherited from his parents and McCain married it, too bad he dumped the first loyal wife to do it. Good thing you rethugs have absolutely no morals.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:37 pmShoeless, where can I send him the bill for those five aircraft? It’s about time he did something for his country besides occupying a cell at the Hanoi Hilton.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:40 pmHis tour ended in Feburary.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:42 pmThat’s right, McCain’s wife has the money. After all the classes self admitted “worst student” is hardly going to make any money writing books. W inherited from his parents and McCain married it, too bad he dumped the first loyal wife to do it. Good thing you rethugs have absolutely no morals.
Yeah, that’s the wife that raised his children and waited for him to come home from captivity. Then he starts an affair with Cindy and dumps his wife and children to marry into money. Nice… Not someone I want as my President.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:43 pmFunny how the rightards rail on and on about everything except for the fact that McStain is happy to leave veterans out on the street, as all republicans are. whether he’s a war hero (he isn’t, he’s a loser and a songbird) in irrelevant to the question. he hates veterans, and would rather his rich war-profiteer friends get the money the vets need. that’s all that needs to be known about him, along with the fact that his service record shows what a horrible CiC he would be. he’s incompetent and dangerous.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:44 pm“And so, my friends, since we can never fully repay our veterans, we should not even begin to try. For any attempt we may make at repayment, will be simply inadequate, and thus may be an insult to these brave men and women who have seen and given so much. So, my friends, I will not try to repay them in an inadequate way.
P.S. I still support our troops.”
Thanks, John.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:45 pmNow, how many presidential candidates can boast on their resume’ that they are a North Vietnamese ace?
Clinton? No.
Obama? Nope.
McCain? Absolutely.
did the navy ever bill him for those 5 planes lost?
The government is charging our troops for loss/damages of their equipment in combat today, you know, for their flak jackets, helmets, etc.
5 planes at their cost + >50 years interest ought to be a tidy sum.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:47 pmDr. Hussein Matt Says:
Mc100yearwas isn’t a “war hero”. He failed in war. He was shot down. He didn’t and couldn’t complete his mission. He’s a failure.
There is some controversy as to whether he was actually shot down. There is the theory that he crashed his plane like he crashed the 5 other planes. What a hero. Crashes his plane and then is held prisoner for 5 years. I’m not exactly what it is about being held a prisoner that makes him a hero, though.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:50 pmmanicare Says:
McCain has made less money than any candidate currently running! Obama and Hilary are both multi-millionaires!
You are right. McCain is not smart enough to make money and become a multi-millionaire. He married the money. Much quicker that way.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:51 pmmanicare Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Shayne Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
So rich people are smart now? I thought rich people were Republicans with friends making backdoor Laws so they were the only ones making money.
There is no one “standard” when it comes to the wealthy , dipshit.
Steve Jobs is brilliant ; Prescott Bush was a traitor and a dealer with the Nazis.
Which one would fall into the “smart” category ?
Well , knowing what a Chimpy adoring , anti-American suckhole you are , I’d presume you are probably going to claim the latter is…………..
April 7th, 2008 at 2:52 pmUncle Ho Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
Now, how many presidential candidates can boast on their resume’ that they are a North Vietnamese ace?
Clinton? No.
Obama? Nope.
McCain? Absolutely.
did the navy ever bill him for those 5 planes lost?
The government is charging our troops for loss/damages of their equipment in combat today, you know, for their flak jackets, helmets, etc.
5 planes at their cost + >50 years interest ought to be a tidy sum.
Yeah , the nerve of those soldiers ; how dare they get shot at in a shithole and get struck by enemy fire …………
April 7th, 2008 at 2:53 pmOh, good. Another incoherent troll.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:55 pm3. Obama - never served. No kids in Iraq.
Yeah, Obama should have sent his 5 & 6 year old girls to serve. Shame on him for not doing that.
Would you care to show us any right wing politicians who are Obama’s age who served in the military?
April 7th, 2008 at 2:56 pmAfter reading about McCain’s son, it’s apparent the military are making sure he isn’t even close to being “in harm’s way,” so it’s just for show. I’d be in more danger walking the streets of South San Diego.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:59 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Oh, good. Another incoherent troll.
I think it’s the same incoherent troll.
April 7th, 2008 at 3:00 pmBilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
You are right. McCain is not smart enough to make money and become a multi-millionaire. He married the money. Much quicker that way.
And yet, John Kerry was vilified constantly by the Right for “marrying money.” Funny how that works.
April 7th, 2008 at 3:01 pmIf you’re making the point that McCain was not a great pilot or that he somehow should pay for the aircraft he damaged, okay.
But, if you’re reasonable, you’ll admit that the criticism of Clinton, Cheney, and Bush of draft dodging doesn’t apply to McCain. And because he didn’t avoid Vietnam, he has a credibility that the aforementioned don’t share.
Give the devil his due.
April 7th, 2008 at 3:02 pmThe_Right_Stuff Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Kerry lost the popular vote. Apparantly, people believed the Veterans.
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First — do you have some inside information that the reason Bush squeaked by with a hairline victory was because of the Swift Boat Veterans? An argument can be made that it was because of people scared to death of gays kissing (and the fact that anti-gay initiatives were on the ballots in many states got the homophobes out voting in force). Another argument can be made that voter caging and other irregularities tipped the balance ever so slightly in Bush’s favor.
Second — what in the world does this have to do with McCain’s position on funding the needs of veterans?
April 7th, 2008 at 3:05 pmAre you really sure that you want to equate making money (or being rich) with intelligence?
April 7th, 2008 at 3:07 pmbackup Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
If you’re making the point that McCain was not a great pilot or that he somehow should pay for the aircraft he damaged, okay.
But, if you’re reasonable, you’ll admit that the criticism of Clinton, Cheney, and Bush of draft dodging doesn’t apply to McCain. And because he didn’t avoid Vietnam, he has a credibility that the aforementioned don’t share.
Give the devil his due.
What “credit” does the senile old fool “deserve” ?
Why would I give a shit about the bullshit spewed by a sub-standard NAVY PILOT on a GROUND WAR or his non-support of current vets , when he himself isn’t reliant on governement funds to those who served because he married into money after dumping his 1st wife and the coverage he receives as an elected official ?
Oh wait ; that’s right , I don’t ……………Nor should anyone else.
April 7th, 2008 at 3:09 pmbackup Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
You are right. McCain is not smart enough to make money and become a multi-millionaire. He married the money. Much quicker that way.
Are you really sure that you want to equate making money (or being rich) with intelligence?
Only if and when it’s applicable.
In Chimpy’s case , we know intelligence has never been present , so it’s a moot point ………..
April 7th, 2008 at 3:10 pmMcLame is a tool. Apparently, “A debt we can never repay,” means simply ‘don’t pay.’ I despise his flag-waving with one hand while snatching away the very funds veterans need with the other. This tool’s hypocrisy in unending.
A vet in California
April 7th, 2008 at 3:12 pmOK, OK — I have read enough comments on wealth, and whether it’s a good thing or a bad thing.
My two cents: I don’t really care whether a candidate is wealthy or not. I don’t even really care if he earned his wealth or if he got it through marriage or inheritance. And this applies whether the candidate is a Democrat or a Republican.
I DO care if a candidate or an office-holder is wealthy and strikes an “I got mine” posture when it comes to taking care of the less fortunate. When I see a rich politician voting down funds to help people pay medical bills, to help the homeless, to provide job training, or any other program that helps people make it, I find this politician to be truly out of touch. And it’s especially galling when this “I got mine” attitude is coming from somebody who never earned it on their own. And yes — this also applies whether the politician is a Democrat or a Republican.
McCain married money. Kerry married money. Bush inherited money. Big deal — there’s no real sin in this. What matters is how they take care of those who didn’t luck out that way.
April 7th, 2008 at 3:17 pmSounds selective and less credible.
There are plenty of bright people that aren’t rich. And plenty of bright people with money.
But, when you’re considering Kerry or McCain; it is hard to argue that these aren’t bright men that understand the importance of money. Sad but true.
April 7th, 2008 at 3:20 pmMc100yearwar should be ashamed of himself.
April 7th, 2008 at 3:22 pmmolly. I agree with what you say with one caveate.
Many people really believe that by accomadating someones needs, is not necessarily the best way to help them.
I’m not saying it’s right or wrong. But, it could be a difference in ideology and not an ‘I’ve got mine’ mindset.
April 7th, 2008 at 3:23 pmSee? John McCain is a man of principle. He believes so strongly that the veterans are owed ‘A Debt We Can Never Repay’, that he’s not even going to try and repay them.
April 7th, 2008 at 3:24 pmWe could give you plenty of examples that McCain is not to bright. Al Qaeda in Iran ring any bells? But please feel free to give us examples of his brilliance.
April 7th, 2008 at 3:24 pmI love it! According to a few antagonists here, we shouldn’t vote for a candidate based on his position of topics that directly affect us. Instead, we should vote based upon their children’s military experience? Geez, what’s next? Base your vote upon what a candidate’s pastor preached about years ago?
April 7th, 2008 at 3:28 pmMc100yearwar should be ashamed of himself.
April 7th, 2008 at 3:29 pmI hear you backup, kicking somebody in the nuts when they’re down, that’s the best way to help them according to you rethugs. Accommodating someone’s needs! Heaven forbid! And once they’re out of the military, well what have they done for you lately?
April 7th, 2008 at 3:29 pmMy bad: 5 1/2 years as a POW.
April 7th, 2008 at 3:29 pmThe_Right_Stuff Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
MissMolly:
http://www.nytimes.com/ 2008/ 04/ 06/ us/ politics/ 06mccain.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
Now, McSenile DID sing: “Bomb Bomb Iran”, right?
Not a “joke”, but a SERIOUS comment from a “presidential” candidate??
Not for ME or REAL Americans, who know that McSenile would be a DANGER to Americans with HIS finger on the nuke button.
No MORE SENILE “presidents”, like TRAITOR Ronnie Reagan.
Nor AWOL coward WAR CRIMINAL punks like TREASONOUS Bush.
April 7th, 2008 at 3:29 pmbackup Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Only if and when it’s applicable.
In Chimpy’s case , we know intelligence has never been present , so it’s a moot point
Sounds selective and less credible.
There are plenty of bright people that aren’t rich. And plenty of bright people with money.
But, when you’re considering Kerry or McCain; it is hard to argue that these aren’t bright men that understand the importance of money. Sad but true.
No
A lot of people had to earn their wealth ; Chimpy inherited his , which is an accident of birth.
He has proven he has no intelligence , these last 7+ years ; that isn’t “selective” on my part.
More like yours (which isn’t a surprise)
April 7th, 2008 at 3:34 pmbackup Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Mc100yearwar should be ashamed of himself.
Okay. The guy (self admittedly) was not a great pilot. He probably only got to (and thru) the Naval Academy because his dad was an admiral.
But, come on, he willingly went into combat. He spent 5 1/2 years in combat.
He doesn’t need to ashamed of his service. The only appropriate response to his military service should be: Thank you for your service to the country.
If you disagree with McCain’s vision for the future, you should oppose him.
But, to try to discredit his military service would be a counter productive exercise that strains credibiity.
Funny
I never see you questioning his credibility when it comes to assessing a ground war , even though he was a sub-standard NAVY PILOT , who doesn’t have the tiniest inkling of what a ground war is about.
I wonder why that is ………………..
April 7th, 2008 at 3:37 pmYou can accomadate someone’s needs to their detriment. (teach a man to fish) (Millionaire Next Door - and the fate of their overaccomadated offspring) I’m not saying that’s what happening with veterans. I’m only saying that it is a possible alternate explanation to a ‘I’ve got mine’ mindset.
Republicans could be wrong on the issue. I suggest that it’s not due to an incompassionate unwillingness to respond to someone’s needs, but more of a difference in ideology.
If we stop trying to accuse each other of malice and focus on the merits (or weakness) of the opposing ideologies, maybe we’ll get to a better solution, quicker.
April 7th, 2008 at 3:37 pmbackup Says:
April 7th, 2008 at 3:37 pm