Petraeus Hedges On Whether Iraq War Makes U.S. Safer: ‘It Can Only Be Answered By History’
Petraeus Hedges On Whether Iraq War Makes U.S. Safer: ‘It Can Only Be Answered By History’
In last September’s hearing, Gen. Petraeus was asked whether the Iraq war makes the U.S. safer. “I don’t know,” Petraeus responded. Today, Sen. John Warner (R-VA) pressed Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker again. “Is all this sacrifice bringing about a more secure America?” he asked.
But Petraeus — seemingly glancing at his notes — did not directly answer. “There is no longer a ruthless dictator in Iraq,” he said. “Ultimately, it can only be answered by history, once the outcome in Iraq has been determined. … I believe the more important question is at this point how to achieve our our important interests in Iraq.”
Warner, noticing Petraeus’s hedge, pressed again:
WARNER: It was a fairly simple question: does that translate into a greater security for those of us at home? … Can you now just tell us in simple language tell us yes it is worth it, and it is making us safer here at home?
PETRAEUS: Senator, I do believe it is worth it, otherwise I would have not accepted. … I took on the task of, the privilege of command of MNF-Iraq because I do believe that it is worth, and I do believe the interests there are of enormous importance, again, to our country, not just to the people of Iraq and the people of that region and the world.
When Warner asked Crocker the same question, Crocker praised efforts against al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI), saying AQI has been “lessened.” “I do believe that makes America safer,” Crocker said. Watch it:
Petraeus and Crocker refused to admit that fighting in Iraq does nothing to decrease the threat from the global al Qaeda terrorist network. FBI Director Robert Mueller recently cited the “three-tiered threat” that al Qaeda poses to the West, but Iraq is not referenced in that analysis:
The top tier was the core of the organisation which had established new sanctuaries in Pakistan’s tribal areas. The middle tier was the most complex, consisting of small, self-directed groups like the London bombers of 7/7 who had some ties to al-Qaeda’s leadership. The bottom tier, said Mr Mueller, was made up of homegrown extremists who met on the internet instead of in foreign training camps.
Similarly, the New York Times reported today that fears of Iraq becoming a terrorist incubator “appear to be overblown,” as “the number of fighters going to Iraq [from Europe] has been extremely small,” according to French intelligence. But the longer the U.S. occupies Iraq, the danger that Iraq may become an incubator will increase.
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If I change my name to Ragnar Ulysses History, can I say:
It was the most colossal foreign policy blunder in the history of this nation.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:23 pmWith liberty and justice for oil !
April 8th, 2008 at 1:29 pmDee_History_O’baser agrees that ‘It was the most colossal foreign policy blunder in the history of this nation.’
(History is my middle name)
April 8th, 2008 at 1:29 pmSorry, General Betrayus - that answer is NOT acceptable.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:30 pm“General Petraeus, can you tell me, as we fall from this cliff, whether or not when we land it will hurt?”
“I’m sorry, Senator, at this time… um.. I think that only history will tell if this fall off the cliff will hurt.”
April 8th, 2008 at 1:31 pmI have heard just about enough bullsh!t from these neocon clowns.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:31 pmWake me up when the impeachment hearings start.
The government needs terrorist to keep the morons all askeerid. Otherwise how is their up coming false flag attack on the USA (again) going to work?
They need someone to point the finger at, after all that is what fascist government does.
IMPEACH BUSH/CHENEY
April 8th, 2008 at 1:32 pmHague Trials ‘09
I love it. Permission to yoink and re-use?
April 8th, 2008 at 1:34 pmIsn’t Petraeus Bush’s 2nd or 3rd field general in this war?
That should tell me a lot about who Bush picks for leading this fight.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:35 pmSmoking for 50 years could lead to poor health later in life.
Ultimately, it can only be answered by history
April 8th, 2008 at 1:36 pmfreeman Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
With liberty and justice for oil !
When was the last time that your life was affected by a recent terrorist attack? If you haven’t been through a recent terrorist attack, keep your sarcasm to yourself and thank military officers and soldiers like Gen. Petraus for protecting us. You are not a true patriot, traitor.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:36 pmraynman Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
“General Petraeus, can you tell me, as we fall from this cliff, whether or not when we land it will hurt?”
“I’m sorry, Senator, at this time… um.. I think that only history will tell if this fall off the cliff will hurt.”
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It took a while for us to win many battles in history, but, in the long run, by conquering each war, we left a positive effect on the world. Eventually, we will be able to say the same thing about the Iraq war.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:39 pmAnd up pops Daryll! Uh, Having our troops in Iraq is spending our nation into bankruptcy, all to keep us safe from a couple thousand rag tag Saudis. Didn’t you learn your history>? Empires fall from overextending their military. Dufus.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:39 pmDaryll Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
If you haven’t been through a recent terrorist attack, keep your sarcasm to yourself and thank military officers and soldiers like Gen. Petraus for protecting us. You are not a true patriot, traitor.
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Explain exactly how our troops doing police work in Baghdad and bumping off the Dawa party’s political opponents in Basra keeps America safe, Daryll. Please.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:40 pmDaryll, you sycophantic toady, STFU.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:40 pmbushco misdirected, mishandled and misplaced the focus after the failed attempt to capture or kill bin laden at Tora Bora. bushco has wasted 6 years, 4000 plus brave souls, tens of thousands of maimed Americans, not to mention the countless iraqi lives lost. All to kill one man, Sadam. Well he’s dead, while bushco continues to try to put the broken shards back together with duct tape, blood and tears.
Bush is not only the worst American president, ever, he’s the worst leader of a Democracy since ancient Greece.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:40 pm“Petraeus Hedges On Whether Iraq War Makes U.S. Safer: ‘It Can Only Be Answered By History’”
April 8th, 2008 at 1:43 pmBetrayus/Bush Administration/Neoscum: “Just trust us…we wouldn’t lie to you.”
I have watched at least 4 or 5 trolls vanish into thin air this morning……maybe it’s time daryll moved on too..
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April 8th, 2008 at 1:44 pmDaryll Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
It took a while for us to win many battles in history, but, in the long run, by conquering each war, we left a positive effect on the world. Eventually, we will be able to say the same thing about the Iraq war.
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Where did we leave a positive effect, exactly? Vietnam? Cambodia? Guatemala? El Salvador? Chile? Iran? Nicaragua? Honduras? Angola? Argentina? Do tell…
April 8th, 2008 at 1:44 pmWhat helenahandbasket just said…
April 8th, 2008 at 1:45 pmRUCerious Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
And up pops Daryll! Uh, Having our troops in Iraq is spending our nation into bankruptcy, all to keep us safe from a couple thousand rag tag Saudis. Didn’t you learn your history>? Empires fall from overextending their military. Dufus.
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This is a sacrifice that must be made to ensure that we, as well as the future generation, is safe and secure from those who want to attack various countries. One thing President Bush and future President McCain must do is to continue to appeal to the UN and various countries for support by showing statical improvement, which has occured within the past 8-12 months. This war will benefit each continent.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:45 pmRedstate would welcome St D with open arms. Isn’t Red Satan’s favorite color?
April 8th, 2008 at 1:45 pmSince Elizabeth Edwards is soon to be participating here maybe TP will clean house a little. No sense in trying to deal with the children when the level of intelligent conversation is being raised here.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:46 pmHump it over to Red State Daryll, you got no traction.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:46 pmExplain how chasing the neocon dream of a democracy in a country that does not have the social/economic/cultural underpinnings necessary for a democracy to survive, let alone flourish, is going to be provided via invasion and occupation.
Go ahead. Or take it to SatanState.
I’ve never met History and I’m not sure that he, or she, has ever commented publicly. Historians, on the other hand, have already judged and Bushco has been found lacking.
http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html
April 8th, 2008 at 1:47 pmL. Hussein Annie Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Daryll, you sycophantic toady, STFU.
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I guess you refuse to hear the truth about improvements in Iraq. You want to see the demise of Iraq, America, Israel, etc. Your comment reflects that you need alot of prayer.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:47 pmFred, good point. I’d be embarrassed for Mrs. Edwards to be exposed to Daryll, the world’s most self loathing toady.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:47 pmDaryll Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
This is a sacrifice that must be made to ensure that we, as well as the future generation, is safe and secure from those who want to attack various countries.
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I agree. America must be kept safe and secure from John McCain.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:47 pmLOL.The head troll has landed on the site…OH! better be careful what you write, the troll say’s he and his bible will bite…..Get the salt out now and pour on the troll slug….We still have freedom of speech, even though the troll doesn’t want us to..Blessings
April 8th, 2008 at 1:48 pmAmerica is a fast sinking ship because of herr dubyah’s failed foreign policies. Herr dubyah has not protected our country and has acted foolishly.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:48 pmSo if even now there is no way to measure if we are safer or not, wasn’t it pretty stupid to jump into an illegal invasion ? Especially since even after the fact no one could tell you if we are safer or not ?
April 8th, 2008 at 1:49 pmIt just don’t get any dumber than this.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:49 pmFred Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
I have watched at least 4 or 5 trolls vanish into thin air this morning……maybe it’s time daryll moved on too..
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I know the truth is painful to the Democratic party. Gen. Petraus is completely correct. Statistics have proven that violence has decreased within the past 8-12 months. Eventually, democracy will be accepted by all Iraqi provinces.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:50 pmDaryll works for the congressional industrial military complex and will go to any extent to preserve HIS PAYCHECK. It’s not for love of country, it’s for his love of money.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:51 pmDaryll. You’re an effing liar. Unless God lied to you about “President elect Huckabee”. So, which is it. God lied to you, or, you lied to us. There are no other options.
BTW, if our military weren’t being spent, in a useless occupation of a country which did us no harm, they could seal our borders against all those scary Third-worlders who are here to steal our jobs, bankrupt our medical system and buy houses with risky mortgages.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:51 pmLet’s see, Illegal invasion, USA loses respect worldwide, botched occupation, bankrupting the US Treasury, worn out military, massive debt…..oh yes, much safer.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:52 pmHYooooooooooooooooooooo! What’s up everybody? It’s nice to see that, after a short(long?)hiatus from TP, RUC is still here keeping em’ honest, and Daryll has resurfaced yet again, rolling back that perpetual stone door to spout “the truth”…
So, General P. and the Crock are saying wait and see? hmmm…
I just KNOW I’ve heard that somewhere before…
Did they ask for a Friedman?
April 8th, 2008 at 1:53 pmDaryll Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
This is a sacrifice that must be made to ensure that we, as well as the future generation, is safe and secure from those who want to attack various countries. One thing President Bush and future President McCain must do is to continue to appeal to the UN and various countries for support by showing statical improvement, which has occured within the past 8-12 months. This war will benefit each continent.
Easy for you to yap about “sacrifice” when you’re hiding behind a desk, Daryll.
But what’s up with “President McCain”? You were very clear that it was to be “President Huckabee” and that it had been ordained by God. Surely God hasn’t changed his mind, has he?
April 8th, 2008 at 1:53 pmWARNER: It was a fairly simple question: does that translate into a greater security for those of us at home? … Can you now just tell us in simple language tell us yes it is worth it, and it is making us safer here at home?
Talk about leading a witness. He is making PETRAEUS say what he wants to hear. Translation: So he can tell the American People “SEE I’M RIGHT”.
Crocker praised efforts against al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI), saying AQI has been “lessened.” “I do believe that makes America safer,” Crocker said.
What a Kiss As*.. Are you going to bend down and Kiss John Warner’s shoes also? None of them no how to tell the truth..
April 8th, 2008 at 1:54 pmDaryll Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
I know the truth is painful to the Democratic party.
Sure Daryll, the False Prophet. Why don’t you tell us about “President-elect Huckabee” again?
April 8th, 2008 at 1:54 pmwhiteyfresh Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Did they ask for a Friedman?
I think it’s a QuarterFriedman, for review. Because no one has done any review, apparently. Or maybe, like McCain and the Veterans bill, they just haven’t gotten around to reading it.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:55 pmAnd the moment alSadr calls off his truce, the violence flares up in Basra and Baghdad, despite the increased number of American troops drawn into the Shiia on Shiia violence.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:55 pmYou must be a heckuva crappy tester, Daryll, if you can’t see cause and effect any better than that.
RUCerious Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Hump it over to Red State Daryll, you got no traction.
Explain how chasing the neocon dream of a democracy in a country that does not have the social/economic/cultural underpinnings necessary for a democracy to survive, let alone flourish, is going to be provided via invasion and occupation.
Go ahead. Or take it to SatanState.
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By having a non-violent Iraq, Iraqis will be to create and own businesses, share experiences of anguish and success with other Iraqi people from various Iraqi factions. Allow Iraqis to freely practice various religious beliefs. It can happen by planting that seed. We are planting that seed, which will flourish into a beautiful tree.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:56 pmI don’t know or it will only be answered by hisory may be more honest answers than either, ‘the effort is making us safer’ or ‘the effort is making us less safe.’
I think the answers to the question today are pretty subjective and based mostly on differing partisan views on the issue.
Maybe it will take an absense of the highly partisan atmosphere to really make an objective assessment.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:56 pmI’m sorry, I don’t think you know nearly as much as you have convinced yourself that you know…….self-deluded sad example of a pawn with all the paint rubbed off.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:56 pmHey whitey! Nice to read ya. St D is polluting the thread with his Xianic nonsense, nothing new.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:56 pmSo, Daryll, do tell, big boy — what the hell are you doing wasting God’s time chastising us sinners here - instead of being down on your no-doubt ever-so-calloused knees praying for all of us…?
April 8th, 2008 at 1:56 pmDaryll don’t do cause and effect, but he pray good.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:57 pmUmmm, St D, planting bodies is about all we’re accomplishing.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:57 pmRead some history, sociology of the middle east, will ya?
Between Bushco cronies and the generals historians will have quite a full plate deciding the fate of Iraq. History is already here though. Five years in and Iraq is still a mess with no end it site. Their’s your history. We basically replaced Saddam as the Iraq strongman. Now we’re stuck and smiling Bushie boy rides off to Texas over all the bodies and Iran wins the war.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:57 pmhussein toasterhead Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Daryll Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
This is a sacrifice that must be made to ensure that we, as well as the future generation, is safe and secure from those who want to attack various countries.
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I agree. America must be kept safe and secure from John McCain.
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What’s wrong with future President McCain?
April 8th, 2008 at 1:58 pmDaryll Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Statistics have proven that violence has decreased within the past 8-12 months. Eventually, democracy will be accepted by all Iraqi provinces.
Another lie Daryll. Violence, in Iraq, has INCREASED in each of the last three months and factions within the Iraqi government are squaring off against each other.
If you continue to lie, in the name of Jesus, God might not wait untill you are sent to Hell. He just might smite thee for the good of His creation. You, in addition to being a serial lier, are a clear threat to human existence. Get thee an education or STHU!
April 8th, 2008 at 1:58 pm.
Objectives in Iraq = BUMPER STICKER SLOGAN
Support the troops = BUMPER STICKER SLOGAN
Planting the seeds of Democracy = BUMPER STICKER SLOGAN
Let history judge = BUMPER STICKER SLOGAN
Achieve OUR interests in Iraq = BUMPER STICKER SLOGAN
Progress has been made = BUMPER STICKER SLOGAN
Stay the course = BUMPER STICKER SLOGAN
It is worth it = BUMPER STICKER SLOGAN
Al-CIA-DUH in Iraq = BUMPER STICKER SLOGAN
In the sum of it all, this defense of the continued occupation of a sovereign nation that NEVER posed a threat to the USA can be printed on a bumper sticker(made in China).
Petraeus, put that on your Hummer.
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April 8th, 2008 at 1:58 pmDaryll Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
By having a non-violent Iraq, Iraqis will be to create and own businesses, share experiences of anguish and success with other Iraqi people from various Iraqi factions. Allow Iraqis to freely practice various religious beliefs. It can happen by planting that seed. We are planting that seed, which will flourish into a beautiful tree.
You’re certainly spreading the fertilizer.
But it’s more like Jack & the Beanstalk: pure fantasy. We’ll have a nice safe Iraq and then the Iraqis can iron out their differences — which are the very differences that keep them fighting each other. Brilliant plan.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:58 pmDr. Hussein Matt Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
I guess you refuse to hear the truth about improvements in Iraq. You want to see the demise of Iraq, America, Israel, etc. Your comment reflects that you need alot of prayer.
America is a fast sinking ship because of herr dubyah’s failed foreign policies. Herr dubyah has not protected our country and has acted foolishly.
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Why, because he refuses to talk to ambassadors of rogue nations? You are sad.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:59 pmbackup
No it doesn’t backup. You guys act like 5 years is not some history…..history has been written and you have come down on the wrong side of it.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:00 pmHey, St D! Can I borrow some of that manure you’re spreading?
April 8th, 2008 at 2:00 pmMy lawn needs some greenin!
Trolls only come out because they know they WILL get the fight and attention they seek. Let’s just flag ‘em and move on… K?
April 8th, 2008 at 2:00 pmAnswer the question Daryll. Did God lie to you, or, did you lie to us. There are no other options.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:02 pmDaryll Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
What’s wrong with future President McCain?
What happened to you saying God told you it was “President-elect Huckabee”?
April 8th, 2008 at 2:02 pmDoes God lie Daryll, or do you?
backup Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
I don’t know or it will only be answered by hisory may be more honest answers than either, ‘the effort is making us safer’ or ‘the effort is making us less safe.’
I think the answers to the question today are pretty subjective and based mostly on differing partisan views on the issue.
Maybe it will take an absense of the highly partisan atmosphere to really make an objective assessment.
More of backup’s sophomoric “yeah, but what if?”
If you think the answer can possibly be “the effort is making us safer”, you’ll need to provide some evidence beyond “no one has blown us up lately.” Because the evidence on the other side has piled up so deeply it’s no longer possible to ignore — without willful ignorance.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:02 pmFred Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Daryll Says:
This war will benefit each continent.
It just don’t get any dumber than this.
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It will. Because of our future win against terrorism, I believe that the economic situation of each country within our continents will bolster because of are effort to not just protect Iraqis and America, but to ensure that the world is much safer.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:04 pmDaryll Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
When was the last time that your life was affected by a recent terrorist attack? If you haven’t been through a recent terrorist attack, keep your sarcasm to yourself and thank military officers and soldiers like Gen. Petraus for protecting us. You are not a true patriot, traitor.
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It’s true that I have not been affected by a recent terrorist attack. I also haven’t been personally bonked on the head by a falling meteorite. Who do I thank for that?
Contrary to the belief of some, terrorism is not the biggest threat to us. I run a much bigger risk of being killed by a drunk driver or getting caught in the crossfire of a robbery gone wrong than I do of getting killed by a terrorist. Yet what are our leaders doing about that? Where’s the “war on drunk driving”?
Now, as far as keeping America safe from terrorists — not even Petraeus can confidently and unequivocally say that we are more secure for our efforts in Iraq. Maybe that’s because while we are making little bits of progress against AQI, AQI wouldn’t have even been an issue if we had just left Iraq alone and focused on the true perpetrators of 9/11.
Oh, and your use of the words “patriot” and “traitor” just demonstrates you have no clue what either of them means.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:05 pmHow bout that war on drugs, too St D? Are we winning that yet?
April 8th, 2008 at 2:06 pmAnd how about the war on Christmas, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy?
We gotta win those wars to save the world for X.
Max-1 Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Trolls only come out because they know they WILL get the fight and attention they seek. Let’s just flag ‘em and move on… K?
Sorry Max. This particular subhuman POS really makes me angry. I can’t help but think of all the good people of Faith who may be defined by turds like Daryll. It makes me sick to see ANYONE lie in the name of Faith.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:06 pmAre we really going to keep daryll around for entertainment? His tripe is really old and has lost any zip that it ever had. He is just cluttering our threads with his delusion…..
TP has shown that they will get rid of them if we flag them……it appears to be up to us.
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April 8th, 2008 at 2:08 pmHey, Daryll, I know a great cult de-progammer you could get some help from. How about it?
April 8th, 2008 at 2:08 pmDaryll Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Fred Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
I have watched at least 4 or 5 trolls vanish into thin air this morning……maybe it’s time daryll moved on too..
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I know the truth is painful to the Democratic party. Gen. Petraus is completely correct. Statistics have proven that violence has decreased within the past 8-12 months. Eventually, democracy will be accepted by all Iraqi provinces.
So what your saying is, If Gen. PETRAEUS said that jumping off a bridge would decrease the violence, you would believe him??? Your statistics are wrong.
And who are we to tell Iraq that democracy is the best thing for them???? That is up to the Iraqi people to decide that don’t you think??/ It is their country, remember.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:08 pmDaryll, you’re a F-ing genius. You’re gonna be a General some day.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:09 pmApologies to Forest Gump.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:10 pmAnswer the question Daryll. I’ll even break it down for you.
You used to refer to Mike Huckabee as “President elect” and assured us that God told you he was going to be our next President.
Since he dropped out of the race, your statements have been proven to be untrue.
So, logically, one of two things occurred.
1. God lied to you.
2. You lied to us.
Which is it Daryll? Your silence increases your irrelevance and marginalizes your celestial master.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:11 pmWe must ensure that this world is much safer. Not just our country, the world.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:11 pmPlease see the words of George Washington.
Arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of liberty abused to licentiousness.
pete Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
But you DID FLAG ‘em… NO?
April 8th, 2008 at 2:12 pmWell, that’s not insignificant. It’s been 6 1/2 years without a jihadist attack on American soil. If you listen to bin Laden, he (and the rest of al-Qaeda) seem focused on Iraq.
You’re desire to discount the lack of attacks seem similar to dismissing the benefit of blood thinning drugs on a heart attack patient. “Just because you haven’t had another heart attack, it doesn’t mean the blood thinners are working.”
Let me throw it back at you. What would make a better measure?
April 8th, 2008 at 2:12 pmDaryll got a shitload of god rampaging through his brain.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:13 pmThe sign of a successful TROLL…
April 8th, 2008 at 2:13 pm1 comment = 50 responses
Trolls are on crack today. My flagging button is wearing out, lol
April 8th, 2008 at 2:14 pmI know Max-1, I have a soft spot for Xian-insanity trolls.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:15 pmpete Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Daryll. You’re an effing liar. Unless God lied to you about “President elect Huckabee”. So, which is it. God lied to you, or, you lied to us. There are no other options.
BTW, if our military weren’t being spent, in a useless occupation of a country which did us no harm, they could seal our borders against all those scary Third-worlders who are here to steal our jobs, bankrupt our medical system and buy houses with risky mortgages.
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It could have been my flesh speaking to me. But I am confident in God’s word. But Govenor Huckabee is in contention for the VP spot.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:15 pmI see Daryll is out peddling its bull again.
I also see that Daryll’s trotting out the same bull that Patreus got called on by a Republican if the article is to be believed. The wheels are coming off the cart but neither Patreus nor Daryll can see it. Like the rest of the 20%ers, these tools continue to peddle their crap even though the rest of us ain’t buyin’.
The sad thing is that they’re not even trying anymore. They’re going through the motions, their hearts no longer in it. Paid Troll “I art so holy my eyes belong in thy bedroom” Daryll isn’t even staying in character. Fire! Brimstone. Come on, man. *claps hands* snap to it. Thar be heathens in them hills in eye-rak. Grab yer pitchfork and go on a little crusade! Yeeehaww! We won’t buy your bull, still, but at least it’ll be entertained.
I’m noticing that the hardcore republicans are desparate now. My Dad just tried to link H-1B Visas to Illegal Immigration. I laughed behind my hand. He then said that Republicans would be tough on illegal immigration. I then asked: “Oh, you mean Republicans like George ‘Let’s Make Them Legal Then Build a Fence…what do you mean closing the barn doors after the horse has already gotten out….horse?! ACK!’ Bush and John ‘We’ll come down on Illegals like a ton of bricks but won’t go after the businesses that hire them because that’s free market’ McCain? And what does Illegal Immigration have to do with big IT companies deliberately disqualifying American workers so they can get H1Bs? Those people are on _VISAs_…making them LEGAL, until they return to India and China, and take our work because they work for 1/5th our wages and even their wages + long-distance connections is cheaper than hiring one of us, customer satisfaction be damned.” He gave up after that.
I’m gonna address the Troll directly here. We’re not buying your crap. Go somewhere where you can sell your crap. You’ll find that there are fewer people who wish to buy your crap than there are people who don’t wish to buy your crap. You and your fellow 20%ers will remain just that, lamers caught in an echo-chamber filled with a handful of voices all screaming the same thing. McCain may win (thanks to Dem infighting in the Primary…if Hillary and Obama were to team up on McCain, his ass would be grass), but it’s almost a foregone conclusion…the Congress is going SHARPLY blue, possibly to the point of McCain being powerless, facing a Veto-Proof Majority in the House and a Filibuster-Proof Majority, if not a Veto Proof Majority, in the Senate. I’ll take those results, though I’d rather Obama for Pres and your goons all second-string has-beens lamenting about “We were so close! Victory was within our grasp!” Much like Gul Dukat and the Cardassian Union and Dominion, your days are numbered. Soon you’ll be going for whackier and whackier fringe Christian derived religions searching for power from On High much like Gul Dukat in DS9 searched for the Pagh Wraiths after the ‘inevitable victory’ of the Dominion was broken by hard work and dedication. I wonder if you’ll find your Pagh Wraith? Hint: They gave their worshippers power over fire. Perhaps you might know them by another name…and remember that that particular Fallen Angel who fell through his Pride that he was right and everyone else, including the Almighty itself, was wrong, loves to seduce Christians who lust for power. :)
April 8th, 2008 at 2:15 pmDaryll won’t be happy till all the shiites and sunnis are praying to jesus or they are dead.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:15 pmI think that is utter crap and the facts on the ground do not reflect a subjective result…….
to try to render the results of the disaster in Iraq to subjective or opinion is just dishonest. Nothing positive has resulted from this mistake.
Our own troops are supporting candidates who want to find a way out of this “QUAGMIRE”. Are their opinions subjective?
April 8th, 2008 at 2:16 pmSay, Daryll - as you’ve noticed, I need a LOT of prayer. A whole HELL of a LOT. In fact, I think you should make me your full-time prayer project. You know, pray for me every single day, 24/7/365…?
I need all the prayer I can get.
So - how ’bout it, D? Get busy!! What are you doing still here, Daryll?? God’s waiting to hear from you on my behalf!
April 8th, 2008 at 2:17 pmThe problem with this whole line of questioning is that these questions are above Petraeus’ pay grade. Petraeus is responsible for implementing a strategy, not for making that strategy. George Bush should be addressing the questions which are being asked of Petraeus. Unfortunately, George Bush is just running out the clock.
Congress needs to take control of this situation. When the Commander in Chief absolves himself of his responsibilities then the Congress needs to step forward to fill the leadership vacuum.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:18 pmFred. If you’re asking me if I think wars are unpopular, I would agree with you.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:19 pmRUCerious Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
And the moment alSadr calls off his truce, the violence flares up in Basra and Baghdad, despite the increased number of American troops drawn into the Shiia on Shiia violence.
You must be a heckuva crappy tester, Daryll, if you can’t see cause and effect any better than that.
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Al Sadr is not powerful. Neither is his weak militia. I am just waiting for him to rescind the cease fire. This is when you will see our troops shine. The destruction of his militia will be like a kid stepping on ants.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:19 pm# Max-1 Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
pete Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
But you DID FLAG ‘em… NO?
I flag every single one of this troll’s posts. I’ve been flagging it since the first time I saw it’s bile filled rants.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:20 pmDaryll prays for death of Iraqi people. Satan loves Daryll
April 8th, 2008 at 2:21 pmDarkside Daryll writes:
Al Sadr is not powerful. Neither is his weak militia. I am just waiting for him to rescind the cease fire. This is when you will see our troops shine. The destruction of his militia will be like a kid stepping on ants.
One word…BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH!
April 8th, 2008 at 2:21 pmDaryll Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Al Sadr is not powerful. Neither is his weak militia. I am just waiting for him to rescind the cease fire. This is when you will see our troops shine. The destruction of his militia will be like a kid stepping on ants.
Your ignorance is astonishing, Daryll. Do you never read a newspaper that isn’t the Washington Times? What happened last week with Al Sadr, Daryll? Ants?
April 8th, 2008 at 2:22 pmSaying that we haven’t been attacked in six and a half years is a great success reminds me of a sports team who touts their win/loss record for the second half of a season after losing every game in the first half of the season. Sure, we haven’t been attacked … since one of the worst attacks on United States soil in history. The current administration was “on watch” during that attack, did nothing useful to stop it, and has even botched our revenge for the attack. Those who planned the attack are still alive six and a half years later, and no, they are not in Iraq.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:22 pmThose 1-4 thousand Iraqi army troops who went over to the
April 8th, 2008 at 2:23 pm‘weak’ militia in Basra sure didn’t know what they were doing, did they Darkside Daryll?
Darkside Daryll, what grade did you get in your reading comprehension class at Oral gratification U?
April 8th, 2008 at 2:24 pmPETRAEUS: “Senator, I do believe it is worth it, otherwise I would have not accepted. … I took on the task of, the privilege of command of MNF-Iraq because I do believe that it is worth, and I do believe the interests there are of enormous importance, again, to our country, not just to the people of Iraq and the people of that region and the world.”
In other words, “…even though there has been little to no actual success, I believe in it and will lie my ass off to you and the rest of America so I can further my career. Even though my superiors are constantly telling me that the troops are wearing thin and the focus should be in Afghanistan and Pakistan, I’m in charge of Iraq and will defend endless war over here despite the hard facts.”
Jeebus on a cracker, if someone asked me if my job was important to the safety of America I’m sure I’d try damned hard to justify it too! This Administration mouth-piece is no more than a self-serving bootlicker. He cares more about how many stars are on his lapel than anything else in this world. Does anyone else smell competition with Condee Rice for Veep?
April 8th, 2008 at 2:28 pm> Eventually, democracy will be accepted
> by all Iraqi provinces.
Palestine “accepted democracy”, how do you feel about how that turned out? Big fan of Hamas, Daryll? YOu want out soldiers to die so we can have a Hamas-like government in Iraq? How do you you feel about the Iraqi government giving the Iranian president a royal welcome?
> The destruction of his militia will
> be like a kid stepping on ants.
Uh huh…a “cakewalk”, right? Oh wait, thats what you’re heroes said the entire Iraqi invasion was supposed to be..
ps. your wife is still a wh0r3
April 8th, 2008 at 2:29 pmThe Performance Artist Known as Daryll™ must have heard about the Hapsburgo Brothers and their scintillating performance earlier today. Shoulda known Big D would be out to protect his performance artist turf.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:34 pmDaryll talks to his flesh….
April 8th, 2008 at 2:35 pm#101.Yah!..LOL.I bet he doe’s, often…
April 8th, 2008 at 2:37 pmDaryll Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
It could have been my flesh speaking to me. But I am confident in God’s word. But Govenor Huckabee is in contention for the VP spot.
Mere deception and deflection. You, Daryll, said that God told you Mike Huckabee would be our next President. You offered no qualifying statements. You passed on a lie. This can’t be disputed. However, we don’t know the source of that lie. Was it you? Was it God? There are no other options.
Perhaps it would be more fair if I explain why I care? You see, even though I’m an atheist, I study religion and philosophy. If nothing else I have learned that alleged deities HATE liars. So, I would like to know your opinion.
Does your God hate you? Or. Does your God hate himself? Because one (both?) of you lied to all of us. I have plenty of reasons to dislike both of you, but, I prefer to make determinations based on an individuals own words/actions. I don’t approve of assigning guilt by association. But one of you is deserving of a little more of my contempt. So, which will it be.
Will you man up and admit you lied to us, or, will you allow us to believe your celestial master is a trickster of the most vile kind? It’s up to you, Daryll.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:39 pmUltimately, it can only be answered by history, once the outcome in Iraq has been determined
Actually, I think that’s the first answer he got correct. It’s not his job to tell anyone whether the particular war he’s been given is good or bad for the country. It’s his job to prosecute it, or if in his “expert military opinion” it is not winnable, to advise another strategy. He’s not the leader of the country, and I refuse to blame him for the consequences of the Iraq war, whether we ‘win’ or not. His job is to fight it, and we have no business asking him to answer a political question.
That having been said, he’s a pin-head.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:40 pmDaryll Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Al Sadr is not powerful. Neither is his weak militia. I am just waiting for him to rescind the cease fire. This is when you will see our troops shine. The destruction of his militia will be like a kid stepping on ants.
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Then why did Maliki (backed by American forces) roll into Basra last week to disrupt the Sadrist faction’s political clout in the region, only to ask for a cease-fire a few days later?
April 8th, 2008 at 2:41 pmgummitch Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Daryll Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Al Sadr is not powerful. Neither is his weak militia. I am just waiting for him to rescind the cease fire. This is when you will see our troops shine. The destruction of his militia will be like a kid stepping on ants.
Your ignorance is astonishing, Daryll. Do you never read a newspaper that isn’t the Washington Times? What happened last week with Al Sadr, Daryll? Ants?
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Sure, we will have a few casualties here and there, but it is better then having 50 or more soldiers killed.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:42 pmDarth Daryll is good entertainment and all, but these are serious questions. How can we possibly be safer with a worn down military, loss of respect worldwide, massive debt and failing economy? all these problems relate directly to our illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:42 pmRUCerious Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Those 1-4 thousand Iraqi army troops who went over to the
‘weak’ militia in Basra sure didn’t know what they were doing, did they Darkside Daryll?
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Exactly, it was Iraqi troops that were trumped, not our soldiers. American soldiers could easily destroy them. This is the reason why we must have a permanent presence in Iraq.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:44 pmDaryll Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Sure, we will have a few casualties here and there, but it is better then having 50 or more soldiers killed.
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One soldier killed to prolong this failed occupation is one too many.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:44 pmDaryll don’t mind a few casualties here and there as long as he’s not one.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:45 pmAw, come on, Pete; have some pity on Daryll. Can you imagine the crisis of faith he’d be undergoing if he were a real person?
I mean, he thought his God had ordained Mike Huckabee as the next President, even to the point that he was calling him “President-elect Huckabee” even though it made him look like a dweeb.
Now Daryll’s gotta ask himself — was that really God I heard? Or was it Satan? And if I can’t tell the difference on this, how can I ever trust what God whispers in my ear, ever again?
Yep, it’s a good thing Daryll is just a character in an internet performance art piece. I sure wouldn’t want to be dealing with what Daryll is supposed to be dealing with.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:46 pmDaryll Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Exactly, it was Iraqi troops that were trumped, not our soldiers. American soldiers could easily destroy them. This is the reason why we must have a permanent presence in Iraq.
Because otherwise they’ll jump on their magic carpets and invade the US.
Daryll is happy with a permanent US presence in Iraq just as long as he isn’t one of the troops. “Supporting you with prayers and my paycheck, guys! Keep up the good work! I’m off on a fabulous vacation next week, but I’ll pray for you.”
April 8th, 2008 at 2:47 pmDaryll, check your Jeebus for horns, ASAP.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:50 pmDaryll Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
It could have been my flesh speaking to me. But I am confident in God’s word. But Govenor Huckabee is in contention for the VP spot.
Bwahahahahahahahahaha….
Man, that was lame as hell, Daryll.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:50 pmFunny as all get-out, but really lame.
There! Sorry gang, I’m done bashing Daryll, for now. Back on topic.
There is a very good reason why there have been no recent attacks within the U.S. That being, Bushco has provided 140,000 (at any given moment) targets in exposed positions. If one studies the words of various terrorists one will learn that Bushco has given them exactly what they wanted. A vast U.S. military adventure which leaves our fine soldiers in harm’s way.
Surrounded. Pinned down. Cut off. No relief in site.
Also. Have you noticed that the Reichwingers cite attacks on U.S. military targets before the invasion (U.S.S Cole, Lebanon barracks etc.) while they don’t count the thousands attacked in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Whenever one of the bottom feeders tries to claim we are “safer” I urge you all to remind them that we have been attacked, on a daily basis, since the beginning of this mad adventure.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:53 pmOf course Daryll won’t address me. I think I got his goat with the accurate piece on him.
At least he managed to bring Gawd into this. The line ‘My Flesh speaks to me’ has me cracking up laughing. My wife’s gonna love this tale when she gets home. “Hey, honey. Another bible-humping waste of space just opened its mouth and confirmed the collective stupidity of its group. Its flesh speaks to it. I guess that’s while its flesh is out on a date with Rosy Palm and her five sisters?” BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
I’ll spare you the rest of the mental image that came with that, but I know my pagan bisexual wife will love the image.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:55 pmDaryll is happy with a permanent US presence in Iraq just as long as he isn’t one of the troops. “Supporting you with prayers and my paycheck, guys! Keep up the good work! I’m off on a fabulous vacation next week, but I’ll pray for you.”
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I find your comment disgusting and untruthful. This is not about me supporting the troops, anyway, which I do (prayers, email messages, care packages, US Airways Dividend Miles). It’s about you supporting the demise of the Middle East as well as America.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:55 pmDaryll Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Sure, we will have a few casualties here and there, but it is better then having 50 or more soldiers killed.
You are no christian, Daryll. You are a liar and a chickenhawk coward. “President-elect Huckabee” my a$$.
You don’t mind troops dying, as long as its not your a$$ on the front lines. Typical for chickenhawk cowards.
April 8th, 2008 at 2:57 pmDaryll Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
By having a non-violent Iraq, Iraqis will be to create and own businesses, share experiences of anguish and success with other Iraqi people from various Iraqi factions. Allow Iraqis to freely practice various religious beliefs. It can happen by planting that seed. We are planting that seed, which will flourish into a beautiful tree.
Iraqis used to create and own their busineses.
Iraqis used to live side-by-side regardless of their factions.
Iraqis used to be able to freely practice their religious beliefes.
And then you went and burned the whole garden down in order to “plant your seed”.
April 8th, 2008 at 3:00 pmWhenever one of the bottom feeders tries to claim we are “safer” I urge you all to remind them that we have been attacked, on a daily basis, since the beginning of this mad adventure.
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Casualties have decreased in 2007, compared to 2006. I guess you forgot about that.
April 8th, 2008 at 3:03 pmDaryll Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
I find your comment disgusting and untruthful. This is not about me supporting the troops, anyway, which I do (prayers, email messages, care packages, US Airways Dividend Miles). It’s about you supporting the demise of the Middle East as well as America.
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The Middle East was doing just fine until we got involved. It’s actions such as the U.S. overthrow of the government of Iran, support for illegal Israeli occupation, propping up of despotic regimes, and the invasion of a country that posed no threat to us, that will lead to the “demise of the Middle East.”
April 8th, 2008 at 3:07 pmYou are no christian, Daryll. You are a liar and a chickenhawk coward. “President-elect Huckabee” my a$$.
You don’t mind troops dying, as long as its not your a$$ on the front lines. Typical for chickenhawk cowards.
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Death is a part of war. Each time I look at the dead soldiers on CNN.com, I become saddened, but then take a look at our 2007 statistics, compared to 2006 and notice that we are making progress. As future President McCain stated earlier today,”The death of these soldiers are not in vain”.
April 8th, 2008 at 3:07 pmCasualties, at the end of 2007 finally approached the same level as the beginning of 2006. 2007, as whole, had the highest number of casualties since the occupation began. Casualties, U.S. and Iraqi, have increased over the last three months. April has started out on a pace to eclipse the last three months combined.
April 8th, 2008 at 3:10 pmDaryll=The Church Lady
April 8th, 2008 at 3:12 pm“Well isn’t that special!”
“Could it be…..SATAN!”
BTW. It’s not a war. It’s an illegal occupation of a sovereign nation which, though led by a despicable despot, had not harmed the U.S.
April 8th, 2008 at 3:13 pmChrist in a cabbage roll, Patraeus is one good soldier. Faithfull to his CIC, obedient and subservient.
So what good is it to ask him political questions? You know the answer, regardless of the truth.
It never crosses his mind that his Master is dead wrong, and that Patraeus is sending troops to their death to support the ego of a pathetic fratboy punk.
Questioning is a good thing. Maybe the master you worship is wrong, maybe they are just fcking with you. Like God did to that poor Daryll, lied to him about Huckabee. God has a rotten sense of humor to mess with the handicapped like that.
Bad God! Bad. Bad.
April 8th, 2008 at 3:13 pmDaryll Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Death is a part of war. Each time I look at the dead soldiers on CNN.com, I become saddened, but then take a look at our 2007 statistics, compared to 2006 and notice that we are making progress. As future President McCain stated earlier today,”The death of these soldiers are not in vain”.
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So if “making progress” in the war means fewer and fewer dead soldiers, then why not pull all of our troops out and have zero dead soldiers?
April 8th, 2008 at 3:14 pmDaryll’s just sexually frustrated because they took away his underage brides from the cult”compound”.
April 8th, 2008 at 3:15 pmDaryll Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Death is a part of war.
Yeah, war is death and destruction. Just where are those WMDs?
Bush sent everyone of those men and women who died in Iraq to their graves with a lie on his lips, and you supported him the whole way.
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Each time I look at the dead soldiers on CNN.com, I become saddened, but then take a look at our 2007 statistics, compared to 2006 and notice that we are making progress
Do you have any idea how hollow this statement sounds to someone who has seen friends die and has also been wounded in war?
Like I believe you give a f_ck.
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As future President McCain stated earlier today,”The death of these soldiers are not in vain”.
Oh, did God change his mind? Thought he told you Huckabee? Now its future President McCain…..
Your god seems to be a bit of a flip-flopper to me.
April 8th, 2008 at 3:26 pmDaryll @ 1:45 pm says this is a sacrifice that must be made…
Either sacrifice YOUR own ass or STFU you cowardly dipshit
April 8th, 2008 at 3:26 pmWell gang. I’ve got errands to run. Don’t let the lying POS, Daryll, spread it’s filth without challenge. Flag and fire at will.
BTW, Daryll, if you read our exchange you will realize that you admitted that you, and your God, are both despicable liars. I thank you for clearing that up. Have a crappy day!
April 8th, 2008 at 3:28 pmDaryll, you really are weak-minded and pathetic.
Maybe I should pray for YOU.
April 8th, 2008 at 3:35 pmHey Daryll
April 8th, 2008 at 3:40 pmI think you might go along way toward repairing your tattered image as a thoughtful dude if you would address that Huckabee snafu of communications between you and the Big Cheese. Remember. “the Lord works is mysterious ways” is a good tried and true escape clauss for the crew that likes to claim to know the will of any god
pity for Daryll?
HA!
The BEST thing for Daryll would be for someone to drop a grenade in his piss-soaked shorts.
April 8th, 2008 at 3:43 pmNOT shorts..meant to say bunched-up, piss soaked panties.
April 8th, 2008 at 3:44 pmI really feel sorry for Daryll’s poor wife. Married to that moron, she probably spends her days driving from pharmacy to pharmacy looking for size extra tiny condoms.
April 8th, 2008 at 3:49 pmWell, General, I’m an American historian, and I’ll answer: NO.
April 8th, 2008 at 4:15 pmLooke at the war criminal pertraeus… look at his body language! He is hidding behind all those meaningless medals, but his head in sank inside his body… that happens when you lie too much! And History Mr. Pertraeus has already pointed out what a war of agression is… History has already banded you and your bosses in the Pentagon and in the WH as WAR CRIMINAL.
April 8th, 2008 at 4:26 pmBeing a true Van Halen fan, even I have to admit probably one of the all time dumbest lyrics, from “Why Can’t This Be Love”, is
“Only time will tell if we stand the test of time!”
This folks, is a non answer!
What really cracks me up is how egotistical America seems. Are WE safer? WE haven’t been attacked since 9/11.
April 8th, 2008 at 4:30 pmWorldwide terrorists attacks have increased since this illegal occupation of Iraq, but no need to cry for them, eh Daryll?
(Oh and Daryll of Parodyll, since you’re here to disrupt, I’ve got one for you. My wife and I, every year for March Madness, bet who can score better in the brackets. This year, she won. Do you want to guess what her reward is????)
I wouldn’t take the opportunity, but, you left yourself wide open with that comment.
April 8th, 2008 at 4:35 pmTo be safe and secure in the USA, one needs to go after the real terrorists behind 9/11. They are not in Iraq nor in Iran… they are much closer to you than you can imagine. All those explosives placed in the WTC towers, including WTC7, were not placed there by ‘radical islamic fanatics’ holding boxcutters… “Termite” is a military explosive. E-4B is US miltary plane, and it was flying over Washington prior to the missil attack in the Pentagon. To be Safe in the USA today, one has to catch the real terrorists who aledged attacked the US on that day. Chenney must know who they are… after all, they are his friends!
April 8th, 2008 at 4:35 pmI don’t want to derail the thread, but I am curious who here still believes it was an inside job?
April 8th, 2008 at 4:40 pmbackup, don’t paint the site with that broad brush please. There are still people out there that believe that Bush’s War was a good idea too.
April 8th, 2008 at 4:48 pmSo very easy for those living in comfort at home to dismiss the soldiers who have not been allowed to come home, or those who are are on their 3rd or even 4th tour. Shame on all Americans to allow this government to use up our fine military for the ego of “winning”. There is never winning when people of all Nations die for war.
April 8th, 2008 at 4:49 pmbackup - I don’t believe it was an inside job, bush and friends are too incompetent to pull it off. HOWEVER, I believe they knew it was coming, Ashcroft stopped riding commercial months before Sept. Nothing was done to alert the public when signs were flashing. As in all crimes look who benefitted. Bush, Cheney, Feith and Haliburton. And I do not believe Osama did it. The FBI cannot tie him to it, and will not authenticate the supposed tapes saying he did.
April 8th, 2008 at 4:53 pmDaryll Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Whenever one of the bottom feeders tries to claim we are “safer” I urge you all to remind them that we have been attacked, on a daily basis, since the beginning of this mad adventure.
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Casualties have decreased in 2007, compared to 2006. I guess you forgot about that.”
and are on their way back up in 2008. Guess you’re really stupid and evil.
April 8th, 2008 at 4:55 pm> my flesh speaking to me
daryll, for the last time, if you have to actively make a choice to not be aroused by hot mansex, your gay..
April 8th, 2008 at 4:56 pmbackup Says:
April 8th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
I don’t want to derail the thread, but I am curious who here still believes it was an inside job?
1/3 of the American people .
April 8th, 2008 at 6:14 pm