Comments on: CNN’s Ware Disputes Kagan’s Claim That Iraq Has ‘Met 12 Out Of The Original 18 Benchmarks’ http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:36:46 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: youtube http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-5592535 youtube Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:14:50 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/#comment-5592535 If only Condi saved her dresses<a href="http://www.dostcafem.com" rel="nofollow">sohbet</a> instead of cleaning them. But in today’s twisted America, I don’t believe anything would happen if George Bush was <a href="http://www.dostcafem.com" rel="nofollow">cet</a>caught in bed with a dead girl AND a live boy. And it all procedes with a cheeky grin and a sickening smugness that is as arrogant as it is insulting<a href="http://www.dostcafem.com" rel="nofollow">Bedava mp3 indir</a>. If only Condi saved her dressessohbet instead of cleaning them. But in today’s twisted America, I don’t believe anything would happen if George Bush was cetcaught in bed with a dead girl AND a live boy. And it all procedes with a cheeky grin and a sickening smugness that is as arrogant as it is insultingBedava mp3 indir.

]]> By: christopher wiwi http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-4846244 christopher wiwi Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:17:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/#comment-4846244 The right wing spin machine is in full rotation on Iraq, it will stay that way until it falls apart before long and the right will just pass it along to the next president.The American people see what is goning on in Iraq and what it has done to our economy here.The Reich Wing can NOT see anything without it`s ROSE COLORED GLASSES on.Our MSM has gotten so tight with the right that they don`t even report what is really going on in Iraq and when they do it is in full spin mode, Main straem media is enabling Bush and his cronyies to do all of this damage to America and they don`t see it because the lenses of the Television cammera`s have a rose colored tint to them. The right wing spin machine is in full rotation on Iraq, it will stay that way until it falls apart before long and the right will just pass it along to the next president.The American people see what is goning on in Iraq and what it has done to our economy here.The Reich Wing can NOT see anything without it`s ROSE COLORED GLASSES on.Our MSM has gotten so tight with the right that they don`t even report what is really going on in Iraq and when they do it is in full spin mode, Main straem media is enabling Bush and his cronyies to do all of this damage to America and they don`t see it because the lenses of the Television cammera`s have a rose colored tint to them.

]]> By: Freedom Rebel http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-4837490 Freedom Rebel Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:43:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/#comment-4837490 Various ethnic conflicts are embedded today in Iraq’s political structures and institutions, and it is these political structures and institutions that prevent further progress toward national reconciliation. The mechanism usually used to resolve national identity conflicts—a constitution—was precipitously adopted in Iraq in 2005 and has since served to exacerbate rather than ameliorate Iraq’s national identity conflict. In part this was a function of a poor American political strategy that pushed strongly for a constitution, but it ultimately reflected Iraq’s burgeoning ethno-sectarian conflicts. We are never going to be able to solve all of their conflicts. Iraq has an identity crisis; three major factions that want different things from the country and the government. Until the three are in total agreement, there will be no resolution. What works for the US, does not necessarily work for another country. Instead of us dictating they have a constitution ,which didn't work, getting them all together to find a workable solution would probably be better. Maybe a Bills of Rights would be a good starting point. Condi's not up to the job for this one. They are going to have to find someone much better than her, to mediate the agreement. Various ethnic conflicts are embedded today in Iraq’s political structures and institutions, and it is these political structures and institutions that prevent further progress toward national reconciliation. The mechanism usually used to resolve national identity conflicts—a constitution—was precipitously adopted in Iraq in 2005 and has since served to exacerbate rather than ameliorate Iraq’s national identity conflict. In part this was a function of a poor American political strategy that pushed strongly for a constitution, but it ultimately reflected Iraq’s burgeoning ethno-sectarian conflicts.

We are never going to be able to solve all of their conflicts. Iraq has an identity crisis; three major factions that want different things from the country and the government. Until the three are in total agreement, there will be no resolution.

What works for the US, does not necessarily work for another country. Instead of us dictating they have a constitution ,which didn’t work, getting them all together to find a workable solution would probably be better. Maybe a Bills of Rights would be a good starting point. Condi’s not up to the job for this one. They are going to have to find someone much better than her, to mediate the agreement.

]]> By: Badger http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-4837114 Badger Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:15:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/#comment-4837114 I'm looking forward to McCain releasing his Tax Records. I believe he is one of the WEALTHIEST Memebers of the Senate, mostly because of a Lucrative Second Marriage. He makes the Clinton's look Poor by comparison. The Real John McCain is " More Wrong Track". I’m looking forward to McCain releasing his Tax Records. I believe he is one of the WEALTHIEST Memebers of the Senate, mostly because of a Lucrative Second Marriage. He makes the Clinton’s look Poor by comparison.

The Real John McCain is ” More Wrong Track”.

]]> By: Bilbo Hussein Baggins http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-4837080 Bilbo Hussein Baggins Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:13:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/#comment-4837080 <em>had enough Says: April 9th, 2008 at 4:28 pm I find the red on this map appalling. How can these states be so stupid?</em> I wouldn't worry about that site. If you want to know what is really going on as far as elections in the states is concerned, visit http://www.dailykos.com/. Kos keeps pretty up to date with what's happening in the states and he doesn't just rely on one poll to do it. had enough Says:
April 9th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
I find the red on this map appalling.
How can these states be so stupid?

I wouldn’t worry about that site. If you want to know what is really going on as far as elections in the states is concerned, visit http://www.dailykos.com/. Kos keeps pretty up to date with what’s happening in the states and he doesn’t just rely on one poll to do it.

]]> By: mary http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-4837078 mary Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:13:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/#comment-4837078 Uncle Ho Says: April 9th, 2008 at 4:44 pm Kagan: another cowardly chickenhawk hiding behind a female soldier’s skirt. ---------------------------- Did anyone see Jesse Ventura on Stephen Colbert a couple of days ago call Cheney a chickenhawk? You should have seen Colbert's face! Priceless! He played dumb and innocently asked Jesse what a chickenhawk was. Uncle Ho Says:
April 9th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Kagan: another cowardly chickenhawk hiding behind a female soldier’s skirt.

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Did anyone see Jesse Ventura on Stephen Colbert a couple of days ago call Cheney a chickenhawk? You should have seen Colbert’s face! Priceless! He played dumb and innocently asked Jesse what a chickenhawk was.

]]> By: Bilbo Hussein Baggins http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-4836978 Bilbo Hussein Baggins Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:07:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/#comment-4836978 <em>had enough Says: I find the red on this map appalling. How can these states be so stupid? If we are ever to end talk of questionable benchmarks, warmongering and begin a peace process gramps McCain must not win.</em> He won't. He can't poll above 50% and right now he is running unopposed and the MSM is promoting him as a moderate, a hero and a maverick. Once the people in this country get to know the real John McCain, he has nowhere to go but down. had enough Says:
I find the red on this map appalling.
How can these states be so stupid?
If we are ever to end talk of questionable benchmarks, warmongering and begin a peace process gramps McCain must not win.

He won’t. He can’t poll above 50% and right now he is running unopposed and the MSM is promoting him as a moderate, a hero and a maverick. Once the people in this country get to know the real John McCain, he has nowhere to go but down.

]]> By: MCMetal http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-4836888 MCMetal Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:01:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/#comment-4836888 <i>CNN’s Ware Disputes Kagan’s Claim That Iraq Has ‘Met 12 Out Of The Original 18 Benchmarks’</i> Yeah , we're "winning in Iraq" ; never heard that one before........ CNN’s Ware Disputes Kagan’s Claim That Iraq Has ‘Met 12 Out Of The Original 18 Benchmarks’

Yeah , we’re “winning in Iraq” ; never heard that one before……..

]]> By: paleolib http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-4836710 paleolib Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:51:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/#comment-4836710 If Freddy is correct (humor me for a moment), the Iraqi government now functions well enough that we should now withdraw our troops and return Iraq to the newly democratic Iraqi state. If however the alleged achievement of the benchmarks represents nothing but parliamentary lip service which remains neither implemented nor capable of implementation, the only possible conclusion is that the escalation (don't call it a surge unless you like being driven like a sheep by Republican talking points) failed to accomplish its purported mission. In that case we are using our troops as cannon fodder in someone else's civil war and should redeploy now. Either way, time to go. If Freddy is correct (humor me for a moment), the Iraqi government now functions well enough that we should now withdraw our troops and return Iraq to the newly democratic Iraqi state. If however the alleged achievement of the benchmarks represents nothing but parliamentary lip service which remains neither implemented nor capable of implementation, the only possible conclusion is that the escalation (don’t call it a surge unless you like being driven like a sheep by Republican talking points) failed to accomplish its purported mission. In that case we are using our troops as cannon fodder in someone else’s civil war and should redeploy now. Either way, time to go.

]]> By: Chocolate Jesus http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-4836624 Chocolate Jesus Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:46:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/#comment-4836624 hell... let them say thier completing the benchmarks..at some point arent they either: A) going to keep b.s.-ing "progress" until they claim they are all met at which point we can declare victory and go home or B) going to have to stop claiming benchmarks are being met, at which point we can say we tried and its not working, and go home... hell… let them say thier completing the benchmarks..at some point arent they either:

A) going to keep b.s.-ing “progress” until they claim they are all met at which point we can declare victory and go home

or

B) going to have to stop claiming benchmarks are being met, at which point we can say we tried and its not working, and go home…

]]> By: Uncle Ho http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-4836604 Uncle Ho Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:44:39 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/#comment-4836604 Kagan: another cowardly chickenhawk hiding behind a female soldier's skirt. Kagan: another cowardly chickenhawk hiding behind a female soldier’s skirt.

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-4836376 RUCerious Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:31:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/#comment-4836376 had enough. Amen! I check in on that site regularly, and it's very disturbing. But they only use the ONE most recent poll to set their status for each state, I wish they'd average, you'd get a much better picture for the swing states. For the South & Midwest Redstates, just rednecks & inbred repglycan infested. had enough. Amen! I check in on that site regularly, and it’s very disturbing. But they only use the ONE most recent poll to set their status for each state, I wish they’d average, you’d get a much better picture for the swing states.
For the South & Midwest Redstates, just rednecks & inbred repglycan infested.

]]> By: GeeDubs http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-4836360 GeeDubs Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:31:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/#comment-4836360 This Dance of Death is nearing it's end, hopefully. Anyone associated with the planning, building, and waging of this war is being taken for what they are now...deperates trying to put the genie back in the bottle. Their pathetic attempts at spin ARE NOT WORKING ANYMORE. They would all feel better if they just admitted their mistake(s). Really! They would! This Dance of Death is nearing it’s end, hopefully. Anyone associated with the planning, building, and waging of this war is being taken for what they are now…deperates trying to put the genie back in the bottle. Their pathetic attempts at spin ARE NOT WORKING ANYMORE. They would all feel better if they just admitted their mistake(s). Really! They would!

]]> By: had enough http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-4836316 had enough Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:28:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/#comment-4836316 I find the <a href="http://www.electoral-vote.com/" rel="nofollow">red on this map appalling.</a> How can these states be so stupid? If we are ever to end talk of questionable benchmarks, warmongering and begin a peace process gramps McCain must not win. I find the red on this map appalling.
How can these states be so stupid?
If we are ever to end talk of questionable benchmarks, warmongering and begin a peace process gramps McCain must not win.

]]> By: MCMetal http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-4836248 MCMetal Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:25:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/#comment-4836248 <i>katy Says: April 9th, 2008 at 4:23 pm … John Boehner (R-OH) referred to it in his Townhall.com column… huh? why haven’t we seen any of boner’s writings here at TP???</i> Fairy tales , tanning tips and crying on cue appreciation are best left for other sites ............. katy Says:
April 9th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
… John Boehner (R-OH) referred to it in his Townhall.com column…

huh? why haven’t we seen any of boner’s writings here at TP???

Fairy tales , tanning tips and crying on cue appreciation are best left for other sites ………….

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-4836216 katy Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:23:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/#comment-4836216 <em>... John Boehner (R-OH) referred to it in his Townhall.com column...</em> huh? why haven't we seen any of boner's writings here at TP??? … John Boehner (R-OH) referred to it in his Townhall.com column…

huh? why haven’t we seen any of boner’s writings here at TP???

]]> By: robbez_92107 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-4836214 robbez_92107 Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:23:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/#comment-4836214 PNAC = AEI = LIES to cover "a new Pearl Harbor event." PNAC = AEI = LIES to cover “a new Pearl Harbor event.”

]]> By: MCMetal http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-4836034 MCMetal Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:14:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/#comment-4836034 <i>CNN’s Ware Disputes Kagan’s Claim That Iraq Has ‘Met 12 Out Of The Original 18 Benchmarks’</i> Later on , Kagan was overheard saying to a colleague :"Think if I said I was Elvis , I'd get the deed to Graceland?" CNN’s Ware Disputes Kagan’s Claim That Iraq Has ‘Met 12 Out Of The Original 18 Benchmarks’

Later on , Kagan was overheard saying to a colleague :”Think if I said I was Elvis , I’d get the deed to Graceland?”

]]> By: sacopenapa http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-4836026 sacopenapa Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:12:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/#comment-4836026 The "So?" comment said it all! The “So?” comment said it all!

]]> By: MCMetal http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-4836002 MCMetal Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:11:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/kagan-benchmarks/#comment-4836002 Anything pertaining to The Weakly SubStandard and/or Frederick Kagan can be pretty much viewed as total propogandist crap . Anything pertaining to The Weakly SubStandard and/or Frederick Kagan can be pretty much viewed as total propogandist crap .

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