Slight Correction

Block quote material is from

http://www.jewishmediaresources.com/article/1166/

Not a Doctor’s Decision
by Jonathan Rosenblum
Jerusalem Post
December 27, 2007

Rosenblum is talking about book at

http://www.darwintohitler.com/

Why do we blame the bad stuff on God, but refuse to give Him credit for the good stuff like life, the man-woman relationship – marriage, justice, and the expectation of eternal life through belief in Jesus Christ His Son?

Giving Him the blame just doesn’t seem fair to bitblt.

But as to the causes or the Holocaust…

Could it be that science was one of the influences that brought about the Holocaust?

Here is a opinion that Darwin’s influence went way beyond his expectations.

http://www.darwintohitler.com/

“From Darwin to Hitler”

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In Weikart’s estimate, a majority of German physicians and scientists subscribed to the naturalistic Darwinian world view and ideas that constituted a sustained assault on the traditional Judeo-Christian concept of the sanctity of life. Among those ideas are the claim that
there is no fundamental distinction between humans and animals;
human beings do not possess a soul that endows them with any rights or superiority to any other species;
within the species homo sapiens,
there are “inferior” and “superior” individuals,
and inferior and superior races;
and it is the iron will of nature that the species should evolve through the survival of the superior members and the death of the inferior.
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Quoted from http://www.evolutionnews.org.

If the existence of evil gives us pause, shouldn’t we just consider it the natural outgrowth of the “survival of the fittest” principle, which is so well established by Darwinism?

Science does have implications for society, and not all of the implications are about curing cancer. .

Please use careful discretion with the above link. Discovery Institute is a biased source, and bitblt knows that dbadass has often emphasized the importance of unbiased sources.

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Are you saying that a God would have allowed the Holocaust? If so, do not bother explaining. I have no need of such a “god”

BTW. A theistic evolutionist, or “BioLogos”, which expresses the belief that God is the source of all life and that life expresses the will of God. God Bless

Sorry it took so long to respond. I’m familiar with Dr. Collins work and respect his opinions though I’m not sure he calls himself evangelical. I don’t claim that all evangelicals lack wisdom and intellect which is why I’ve coined the phrase “evangelicon”. I reserve my contempt for those who seek to suppress learning, which conflicts with their religious preconceptions, and then blatantly lie to promote their agenda.

BTW. Professor Collins calls himself a evolutionist and rejects creationism and “intelligent design”. He also expresses his distaste of religion in government. He’s a pretty smart guy who, if listened to, could do much to bring American evangelicals into the 21st century. Alas, all too many can’t get past their Belief in Biblical Innerancy and maintain, and promote, a profound scientific illiteracy.

See? Science isn’t a contrary view to a Religious one, except if you try to ignore the scientific facts. James Q. Wilson and John DiIulio Jr deny proved scientific facts, and what is worse, in a teaching book for students. Why? The rules of science aren’t in fact, work of God?

I have a neice and nephew that are single digits in age raised by a couple of fundies. I like to wow them with magic tricks. Then I tell them that there is of course no such thing as magic and when someone tells them something that they know doesn’t make sense that they should question it.

It’s a start. Next year we will talk about the magic behind a three day old corpse coming back to life.

Great story! I once quipped, to a friend, that “parental controls” are a good idea. The world would be a better place if we could “lock out” offensive parents.

You got that right. Some years ago a young homeshooled gentleman worked for me. 17 years old and he was, literally, afraid to light a match! Well, I told him I was an atheist, he told his Mom, and she tried to make him quit (he had turned 18). But, he stood his ground and kept the job.

Well, I never limited my speech and treated him as a rational adult. And, since we often closed the restaurant together, we had lots of talks about life, the universe, and everything. The restaurant closed and I lost touch with him.

Two years later I ran into him, with wife and son in tow. He proudly told me he was attending university and majoring in bio-chemistry. But, what really touched me was when he said, “Pete. Thanks to you I’ve evolved past my Mom”.

I often remind myself of that meeting when it looks like the fundies are winning.

“There are no transitional forms”, they say.

“What about the platypus, which is a primitive mammal possessing reptilian traits”?

“That’s not what we mean”, they say.

“Bacterial flagella are irreducibly complex”, they say.

“Actually, there are innumerable variations with different functions and levels of complexity”.

“God did it”, they say.

No. These people are afraid of science. They are afraid to give up their myths. They are afraid to take responsibility. They are afraid their children will be wiser than themselves. And they are utterly terrified to admit that the universe, and everything in it, is constantly changing. That from one second to the next a unique condition will exist which will never be duplicated. They are afraid they will grow, grow old, and die.
They are simple minded fools who waste their existence as willing slaves to a fallacy.

And for the record, I do not believe for one tiny moment that I am the “center of the universe.” So please leave me out of your absurd generalizations.

Why is it that you reichwingers always tell us that we “can’t possibly disagree” or we “all know x and y”…?

And — who the hell decided that you get to speak for all of us, reichwingers? You don’t speak for all of us – not even close.

You speak for the lunatic fringe 19%ers – and that’s it.

The other 81% of us are a little more sane and reasonable.

Do you understand the irony inherent in someone like yourself who has displayed unintended hilarity and zaniness in defending/excuse making for a group of liars and incompetents who are the very image of what you laughably accuse liberals/progressives of in “not wanting to hear dissent” ?

Every time a believer tried to convert me, I would always ask “How many mules did Noah take on the ark?”

If they answered “Two”, I responded “Mules don’t reproduce, so Noah had no reason to take them.”

If they answered “None”, I responded “Then Noah didn’t take two of every animal.”

No exploding heads, but close…