Lieberman, Bennett, And Kristol See Petraeus Hearing As ‘An Argument’ For ‘Going Into Iran’
Lieberman, Bennett, And Kristol See Petraeus Hearing As ‘An Argument’ For ‘Going Into Iran’
During their appearance before the Senate on Tuesday, Gen. David Petraeus and Amb. Ryan Crocker accused Iran of “funding, training, arming and directing extremist ’special groups’ in Iraq.” “I think one might look for a reconsideration in Tehran as to just where they want to go in Iraq,” said Crocker. “This would be an excellent time for them to reassess.”
Liveblogging the hearings for the Washington Post, Fiasco author Thomas Ricks pondered what Crocker could have intended with his “reassess” comment, considering that “there will be a new American president in place in less than a year“:
But he also said, “This would be an excellent time for them to reassess.” What does he mean by that? Why would Iran want to adjust their relationship now, when there will be a new American president in place in less than a year? Or is there some sort of implied threat there: You guys better get smart, or this president still has time to pound you?
It is unclear whether such a veiled threat was Crocker’s intention, but some on the right are certainly seeing his and Petraeus’s testimony as cause to begin talking about striking Iran again.
On his radio show this morning, Bill Bennett told the Weekly Standard’s Bill Kristol — who had a personal meeting with President Bush yesterday — that a “conclusion” he drew was that the hearing was “less an argument for getting out of Iraq than going into Iran.” After suggesting that Iran may “have to pay some price at some point on their own soil,” Kristol said that President Bush authorizing an attack of some kind before he leaves office is not “out of the question”:
BENNETT: Do you think there’s any chance that, and we won’t ask you to reveal anything confidential, do you think there’s any chance that we might take some action against some aspect of the Ira…against Iran, let’s put it that way, before the president leaves office?
KRISTOL: We didn’t really talk about that, in all honesty, directly. I don’t think it’s out of the question. I think people are overdoing how much of a lame duck the president is.
Appearing on Hugh Hewitt’s radio show last night, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) said that he wished the Bush administration would tell the Iranians that “unless they stop it, we’re going to take action.” “I’m not talking about all out war,” added Lieberman before saying, “they ought to believe that we’re going to hit those training camps.”
Listen to Bennett, Kristol, and Lieberman here:
Lieberman has previously said that “we have to be prepared to take aggressive military action against the Iranians” while Kristol once believed that President Bush “could easily build political support” for strikes against Iran.
Transcript:
BENNETT: Here’s another conclusion I drew, I hadn’t heard this. I think Pat Buchanan might have drawn it. Maybe Pat and I would like your view of it. If you listen closely to this thing and you see where the trouble is now, the whole thing seems to me less an argument for getting out of Iraq than going into Iran, ah there increased role, right or wrong?KRISTOL: Well, it is striking how much Petraeus and Crocker — again they have no agenda on this, they are reporting what they see on the ground — ah, how much Iran is behind the trouble making in the south and behind the Shia extremist groups, now that we’ve pretty much rolled up al Qaeda, except for some work that still has to be done up north. The Iranian backing of the Shia becomes the main, the Shia extremists, Sadr, becomes sort of the main obstacle to really, you know, having a successful resolution in Iraq, and so, I think just beginning from a very practical point of view, they are concerned about Iran and Crocker said, he’s talked to Iran. It’s not like we’re not talking to Iran. We’ve tried the Barack Obama method there. I think Crocker said two or three meetings with the Iranians in Baghdad and they have an interest in destabilizing Iraq, it’s that simple. And I think they only way they won’t is if they’re pushed back as we’ve done a little bit, as the Iraqi government has done in Iraq and then maybe, if they have to pay some price at some point on their own soil.
BENNETT: Do you think there’s any chance that, and we won’t ask you to reveal anything confidential, do you think there’s any chance that we might take some action against some aspect of the Ira…against Iran, let’s put it that way, before the president leaves office?
KRISTOL: We didn’t really talk about that, in all honesty, directly. I don’t think it’s out of the question. I think people are overdoing how much of a lame duck the president is. I think he thinks he needs to leave things in as good shape as he can for his successor. I don’t think he’s going to do something rash, I don’t think he’s got the attitude of, “I’ve got to do it because my successor won’t.” I think he wants to try to assume that his successor will have our interests at heart, will take a cold serious look at those when he takes over, and therefore he wants to leave things as good shape as possible. That’s one reason I think he’s very concerned not to try to drawdown to fast in Iraq. Whether that will lead him to do something in Iran or atleast or maybe leave it to his successor, I don’t know.
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HEWITT: Now Senator, we’re rapidly getting back to where we were in, say, 1969, ’70 and ’71, where an enemy operating from a sanctuary does whatever they want to kill Americans, and we don’t do anything about it. What’s your advice to this administration about how to deter Iran from this continued killing, as you said, of hundreds of Americans?
LIEBERMAN: Yeah, you can’t deter these people…you know, some people say sit down and talk to them. I mean, Senator Obama has said if he’s elected president, he’d sit down and talk with Ahmadinejad without preconditions. But that will be taken as such a sign of weakness, that they will just increase their attacks against us. Honestly, I wish that this administration would specifically and clearly warn the Iranians that we know that they’re continuing to train terrorists who are killing American soldiers, we know that they’re bringing large caches of arms into Iraq, and unless they stop it, we’re going to take action. And you know, I’m not talking about all out war. We know, and I’m not revealing anything here, Hugh, the American military spokespeople in Iraq have said this over and over again publicly. We know that there are three training camps in Iran where they’re training the Iraqis who go back and kill our men and women in uniform. And if they don’t cut it out, they ought to believe that we’re going to hit those training camps. That, to me, is an act of self defense.
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OF COURSE they do.. When all you’ve got is one pony, you ride it, day in, day out.
April 10th, 2008 at 4:32 pmLieberman, Bennett, And Kristol See Petraeus Hearing As ‘An Argument’ For ‘Going Into Iran’
Yeah? Them and what army?
April 10th, 2008 at 4:34 pmI wish that this administration would specifically and clearly warn the Iranians that we know that they’re continuing to train terrorists who are killing American soldiers, we know that they’re bringing large caches of arms into Iraq, and unless they stop it, we’re going to take action. And you know, I’m not talking about all out war. We know, and I’m not revealing anything here
Right, and Joe (I-Israeil) Liebernam’s proof is ……????Pfft.
April 10th, 2008 at 4:34 pmcleary if we discover the saudis are funding and arming those who attack in iraq,they should be treated similarly..
April 10th, 2008 at 4:37 pmI’m fine with invading Iran, as long as it’s just these 3 stooges going in.
What’s that? They never served?
Well, I guess it’s time they did, then.
‘Bill, Joe, Bill, have any of you parachuted?
Not other than ‘Golden’?
What’s that? You’re scared?
Well, get used to it, boys, you’re all we’ve got left!
April 10th, 2008 at 4:39 pmIf the neoClowns think a couple of airstrikes and all’s well and done is their scenario, well, then they’re as dumb as they look.
April 10th, 2008 at 4:45 pmMake no mistake, they are dumb enough to make this huge mistake. Bush needs to be taken out. Now. If he orders the bombing of Iran he will seal the fate of the 140,000 soldiers stranded in Iraq. Does he care? He is covered in warm sticky blood already. May his hell be drowning in a vat of soldier’s blood for eternity.
April 10th, 2008 at 4:49 pmAnd THAT is how Lockheed, GE, and Halliburton etc. do their lobbying – funding stink tanks and buying senators.
That’s the kind of action that guys like Abramoff only dreamed of getting a taste of.
April 10th, 2008 at 4:51 pman insane argument, delivered by insane ideologue warmongers, but an argument nonetheless.
April 10th, 2008 at 4:52 pmI second your motion, Uncle Ho, with the additional requirement that their wives and girlfriends/boyfriends, all sons and daughters, grandchildren, cousins, hangers-on be conscripted to serve their country as well. That way we’ll clean up the gene pool a little bit.
April 10th, 2008 at 4:55 pmI further propose that, if Dubya and his other minions decide to invade Iran or any other nation before January 2009, he and they must stay in office a la stop-loss that they are inflicting on our soldiers. Passports confiscated along with credit cards might insure their non-flight to another country
tombaker Says:
April 10th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
And THAT is how Lockheed, GE, and Halliburton etc. do their lobbying – funding stink tanks and buying senators.
But you have to admit that as long as the general population goes along with the “winning, victory and no defeat” talk due to small expectations in life, they will do it.
April 10th, 2008 at 4:55 pmEverytime I hear Lieberman speak, I feel sorry for his wife. I mean, I feel sorry for us too, but at least we don’t have to sleep with him.
April 10th, 2008 at 5:00 pmi don’t think so Juan – a majority of the general population has been opposed to this endeavor all along.
since Jan. 2001, and for the time being, the USA is under the control of hijackers.
anti-democratic far-right hijackers.
April 10th, 2008 at 5:04 pmJust as it was a foregone conclusion that we’d invade Iraq after 9/11, it seems that it’s a foregone conclusion that we’ll invade Iran after invading Iraq.
I think people are overdoing how much of a lame duck the president is.
Presidents are usually lame ducks midway through there second terms because they need, but don’t get, cooperation from Congress. Not so for this president due to the cowardly and complacent Democrats running this Congress.
http://progressiveworldreview.com
April 10th, 2008 at 5:05 pmBilly Kristol always looks like he’s afraid the person he’s talking to is getting ready to sock him.
April 10th, 2008 at 5:06 pmamericangoy Says:
April 10th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
How much PROOF do people need about the whole dual loyalty issue and the power of the pro-Israel lobby and pro-Israel activists masquerading as American Citizens…
There is only one matter a priori with these neocons – “Is it good for Israel?” Everything else is window dressing.
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But it’s NOT good for Israel. That’s the insanest part of the insanity. Israel is buying oil from Iran. In violation of its own boycott on Iran! Why would they want us to attack?
April 10th, 2008 at 5:15 pmBush today: …“The regime in Tehran also has a choice to make: They can live in peace with its neighbor, enjoy strong economic and cultural and religious ties, or it can continue to arm and train and fund illegal militant groups which are terrorizing the Iraqi people and turning them against Iran,” he said.
“If Iran makes the right choice, America will encourage a peaceful relationship between Iran and Iraq. If Iran makes the wrong choice, America will act to protect our interests and our troops and our Iraqi partners.”
Here we go again.
April 10th, 2008 at 5:15 pmI agree it is NOT good for Israel – but in their far right, Likud philosophy, it is.
And that’s what counts.
Read my blog
Read Phillip Weiss’ blog.
April 10th, 2008 at 5:20 pmThe fools are ready to attack Iran because Iran has beenaccused of “funding, training, arming and directing extremist ’special groups’ in Iraq.” Looking at the other side of the coin one could surmise and argue that Iran would be justified in “pounding” the US for the same reason. Bush’s way or no way! When will we ever learn?
April 10th, 2008 at 5:21 pmSure it’ll work. Just send in some bombers and cruise missiles. Shock & awe. Show ‘em we mean bidness. Not real war. Them Eye-ranians will surrender and we’ll have our victory over Islamofascism.
April 10th, 2008 at 5:23 pmIt sounds so simple if you don’t think too much.
If Iran makes the right choice, America will encourage a peaceful relationship between Iran and Iraq. If Iran makes the wrong choice, America will act to protect our interests and our troops and our Iraqi partners.”
But, Mr. Bush? I think the Iraqis want us to leave. Being asked to leave a country does not a partner make, sir.
Did Bush really go to Harvard? Was he ever awake during this time?
April 10th, 2008 at 5:23 pmWow, A little late to the table here, and my very first reaction upon reading the headline was the same as the very first post, Of Course They Do! Their
war-dicks get hard when the wind blows!
It’s not their skin or their kids skin that will be on the line. And with what army do they intend to do this with? Our’s? Already broken. We gonna bring back the draft? That will insure it never happens. The public won’t stand for it.
They gonna drop some bombs? Then what? What complete and utter lunacy. I say we invade these idiots homes haul them in and line ‘em up for treason. Wipe out the neocons to the third generation and start global peace! Lunatics! Sweet jesus I hate this Chicken-hawk Neo-con PRICKS!
… All right, I feel better now…
April 10th, 2008 at 5:27 pmAnd where is the proof that Iran is doing this so called Special Training.
The WAR CRIMINAL Bush Administration has told too many lies to believe anything they say. They are known liars and will do and say anything they want to get their way, even it means killing millions of civilians.
Bush/Cheney/NeoCons
April 10th, 2008 at 5:28 pmHague Trials ‘09
Every one of these chicken hawks needs to be sent to man the defense of the Straits of Hormuz, promptly.
April 10th, 2008 at 5:29 pmStrat- wasn’t Bush like the bottom of his class like McCain?
April 10th, 2008 at 5:30 pmWhy do these fu(kers hate reality? What did reality ever do to them? Or should I like, not be asking that question…?
April 10th, 2008 at 5:31 pmPetaeus presentation is an ‘Argumanet For Going Into Iran….’
This is the PNAC(Project For New American Century)Manifesto.
The same people who drove this country to a war in Iraq…now pushing for another one for Israel…
April 10th, 2008 at 5:36 pmThe same people who wrote the Clean Break , ‘A Clean Break: A New Strategy For Securing The Realm’.
I really fear that if Congress doesn’t impeach Bush and Chaney that invading Iran is pretty much a given. Congress is being derelict in their duty to this country if they allow this to happen.
April 10th, 2008 at 5:36 pmAnd yet Petraues also DENIES any knowledge of relevant, material Iranian activity in Iraq:
[A] reporter asked the commander if he believed Iran was supporting Sunni militants inside Iraq or had any evidence establishing such a link.
“I’m not aware of – it doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened,” Petraeus replied, choosing his words carefully.
He said that some Sunni extremists had weapons that were made in Iran, but said that it was unclear if the weapons were provided by Tehran.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/10/petraeus-not-aware-of-al-qaeda-iran-link/
So according to Petraeus, Iran IS a material influence in Iraq, whilst also being NOT a material influence in Iraq on account of the lack of evidnece, of which he has no knowledge and therefore MAY WELL BE a material influence in Iraq BECAUSE there is no evidence to suggest otherwise (Rumsfeldian ‘logic’).
April 10th, 2008 at 5:37 pmHis daddy had Panama and Gulf 1. Both ended. Little George has Afghanistan and Iraq. He wants to best daddy with another war. The neocon macho chickenhawks like Michael Ledeen say “real men go to Tehran”. Little George wants to become a real man.
April 10th, 2008 at 5:40 pmI believe that the dead-enders in the White House will try to put another fish hook into the middle east before they leave. It’s their last chance before their party is totally thumped and marginalized after November 08. If it looks like the Dems will dominate Congress and the WH, Bush/Cheney will leave an even bigger mess.
What do they actually think? That the Strait of Hormuz is some sort of poker hand?
April 10th, 2008 at 5:42 pmHEWITT: Now Senator, we’re rapidly getting back to where we were in, say, 1969, ’70 and ’71, where an enemy operating from a sanctuary does whatever they want to kill Americans, and we don’t do anything about it. What’s your advice to this administration about how to deter Iran from this continued killing, as you said, of hundreds of Americans?
There are sanctuaries in Pakistan. But we won’t full out attack them because Pakistan is our “ally,” whereas, Iran is our “enemy.” These people are doing what they do best…agitate for war, without thought of the possible/probable disaster to follow…just like they were cheerleaders for the Iraq invasion. And Lieberman…that man should be kicked out of the country. Let him go run for office in Israel, because that’s who he’s really working for.
April 10th, 2008 at 5:47 pmBush today: …“The regime in Tehran also has a choice to make: They can live in peace with its neighbor, enjoy strong economic and cultural and religious ties, or it can continue to arm and train and fund illegal militant groups which are terrorizing the Iraqi people and turning them against Iran,” he said.
Is that a typo? Or did he actually say that?
April 10th, 2008 at 5:51 pmThese nuthatches would view a plate of scrambled eggs as an excuse to attack Iran.
April 10th, 2008 at 6:02 pmWars and rumors of wars. False Prophets = Real (oil) profits.
April 10th, 2008 at 6:09 pmNettles
Free thought isn’t free
April 10th, 2008 at 6:17 pmSo, John McCain “knows the horrors of war” and “detests war”. Well, then, his beating the war drums is all the more detestable and horrible.
April 10th, 2008 at 6:21 pmNettles Says:
April 10th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
John McCain knows the horrors of war. John McCain, in his own words, “detests war”. Fictionalising him as some sort of Cheney-esque profiteering warmonger is just not going to cut it with any free thinker as it does in the The “Blame Bush” conformist crowd. Thanks to lame attempts like this to make Bush and McCain The Siamese Twins of Death, the once sharp and influential voice from the far left now has all the resonance of Charlie Brown’s schoolteacher.
Good that you put “detests war” in quotation marks, because the real John McCain has never met a war he doesn’t like, at least one operated by a Republican.
Thanks for your concern, but you’re wrong. It’s important that “free thinkers” have a chance to learn that the public image of McCain is a total construct and that he is no better than Bush Term 3.
April 10th, 2008 at 6:21 pmAnd that thought was free.
April 10th, 2008 at 6:21 pmThis shit should make people nervous. REAL nervous. And if you believe the current administration hasn’t already made the decision to bomb the f**k out of Iran’s enrichment plant(s), I, personally, think you’re mistaken. This mess could get Biblical in a big f**king hurry … literally. We’re already paying for those mercenaries to do battle in Iraq, so I suggest we give them new orders. Take out Bush and the rest of those war-happy f**kers, and let’s get this country back on something that resembles the right track. F**k.
April 10th, 2008 at 6:23 pmAh yes, the fatal flaw of wingnuts: believing the words of their heroes, as if they were meant literally, rather than as a narrative myth.
April 10th, 2008 at 6:24 pmWhat the f** good is bombing Iran gonna do? They think Iran will just go “Oh terribly sorry to disturb you. We will stop whatever we are doing in Iraq now.”??
April 10th, 2008 at 6:31 pmMcCain is the biggest pile of sh*t of them all. How the f**k do you think he got the Redumbsh*tican nomination? By being a war hero? Bullsh*t, I say. Maybe if he didn’t have his dick stuck in the a**-hole of every lobbyist concern out there, I might be ready to buy into, at least, something he has to say. He needs to be thrown back into a little bamboo cage and poked with a pointy stick. Just my opinion. War hero. Bullsh*t.
April 10th, 2008 at 6:32 pmCongress better repeal that Military Authorization act they passed (in panic) just after 9/11, giving Bush authority to attack anyone and everyone (countries, groups, individuals, etc) HE determines is a terrorist or terrorist sympathizer, or we’ll be invading Iran, Syria, and Lebanon before his term is supposed to end.
April 10th, 2008 at 6:35 pmActually, I should have said A fatal flaw of wingnuts; it’s not like they don’t have several.
April 10th, 2008 at 6:35 pmHow do you get to know the ‘horrors’ of war when you’re bombing from 3,000 feet?
April 10th, 2008 at 6:35 pmHe knows the horrors of becoming a prisoner, but getting your ass shot off in hand to hand combat, and street to street combat is something entirely different. Hero, my ass.
God help us. God help us. God help us…
April 10th, 2008 at 6:38 pmCensorship is terrible here.
April 10th, 2008 at 6:38 pmOf course they do. They are insane.
April 10th, 2008 at 6:44 pmamericangoy Says:
Censorship is terrible here.
Translation: I’m a troll and have been banned many times and keep having to make new Handles.
Go F yourself then.
April 10th, 2008 at 6:49 pmYeah Joe, we don’t need an “allout war”with Iran, just a teensy little war – a few bombs here and there, a couple of divisions to execute a blitzkrieg against token opposition. I’m sure Ahmadinejad will then be overthrown by his own people. Our troops will be greeted with flowers in Teheran and the Iranians will rule their own country and everyone in the region will live happily ever after.
And George W. Bush will be able to once again proudly proclaim “Mission Accomplished” in a spiffy flight suit on the deck of a carrier in the Straits of Hormuz.
Just like what has happened during Bush’s preventive war in Iraq.
You don’t want to know what I think should be done to irresponsible, cowardly warmongers like Lieberman, Kristol and Bennett, Wolfowitz, Perle, Feith, Addington, Cheney, et al. Gitmo is way too good for them!
April 10th, 2008 at 7:05 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
April 10th, 2008 at 7:17 pmApril 10th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Billy Kristol always looks like he’s afraid the person he’s talking to is getting ready to sock him.
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Right on, I was just about to type the same thing. It’s a strange look isn’t it? Like he’s seen a ghost, or like he knows he’s about to get a smackdown.
Three chickenhawk cowards want to spill the blood of real heros for their greedy PNAC. These guys are war criminals and bloodthirsty warmongers. Not one of the three has ever worn a uniform nor have they ever heard incoming rounds.
April 10th, 2008 at 7:21 pmNo one needs to “smear” these assnuggets, including McCain, or call them “warmongers”. They constantly tell us exactly what they are by their own words and deeds. Why do you think TP, Media Matters, and other sites are labeled “dangerous” for REPEATING EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAY.
Personally, I have a better word, for them, traitors! And anyone who refuses to see what they are, or sees them and approves, deserves every misery life can throw their way.
April 10th, 2008 at 7:30 pmpete Says:
April 10th, 2008 at 7:30 pm
Um. Just to be clear, the neocon criminals who have seized our government are the traitors. My syntax is a little iffy in the previous post.
April 10th, 2008 at 7:35 pmPNAC:cio still has an imperial hard-on, how surprising.
April 10th, 2008 at 8:36 pmTheir agenda pre-dated 9/11 and they certainly were talking about getting into Iran even before the Iraq war. Now it’s all about finding, or better, creating the possibility for another occupation:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&geopolitics_and_9/11=centralAsia
1953 Operation Ajax backfired, shows that these people learn nothing from history.
ralph the wonder llama Said:
Billy Kristol always looks like he’s afraid the person he’s talking to is getting ready to sock him
maybe he looks like that because most people he talks to really do want to sock him, i know i sure do!
April 10th, 2008 at 9:18 pmand once again, why would we believe anything these guys say? when was the last time they were right?
Important members of the pro-Israel lobby carried out what professors Mearshiemer and Walt call “an unrelenting public relations campaign to win support for invading Iraq. A key part of this campaign was the manipulation of intelligence information, so as to make Saddam look like an imminent threat.
For some Jewish leaders, the Iraq war is part of a long-range effort to install Israel-friendly regimes across the Middle East. Norman Podhoretz, a prominent Jewish writer and an ardent supporter of Israel, has been for years editor of Commentary, the influential Zionist monthly. In the Sept. 2002 issue he wrote:
“The regimes that richly deserve to be overthrown and replaced are not confined to the three singled-out members of the axis of evil [Iraq, Iran, North Korea]. At a minimum, the axis should extend to Syria and Lebanon and Libya, as well as ‘friends’ of America like the Saudi royal family and Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak, along with the Palestinian Authority, whether headed by Arafat or one of his henchmen.”
April 10th, 2008 at 9:38 pmAn army can be ruined. Kristol and his blowhard friends have no idea it can happen. They have watched too many movies and heard too many bullshit stories about what it’s like in war that they think we can just strut our volunteer stuff, remember are servicepeople are volunteers now, and stomp all over the earth. They screech for a battle with Iran why? They’re not even close to being a nuclear threat. No, it’s about oil and power in the middle east. It’s about strategic positioning to cover Israel’s ass. We cannot and we will not be able to take on Iran while at the same time expending the treasury and killing off our young troops. It’s time for Kristol and his cowardly friends to take up their rifles and volunteer.
April 10th, 2008 at 10:25 pmPNAC is at heart, a zionist front. No mystery there.
April 10th, 2008 at 10:28 pmIsrael first, USA to serve its needs…that’s the NeoCon PNAC credo.
tell the Iranians that “unless they stop it, we’re going to take action.” “I’m not talking about all out war,” added Lieberman before saying, “they ought to believe that we’re going to hit those training camps.”
Meanwhile, the Saudis will be planning another successful terror attact on U.S. soil…
April 10th, 2008 at 10:55 pmThis week the United States of America conducted a battle with the forces of Iran.
The battles took places in Baghdad and Basra between combatants controlled by the religious leaders of Iran, US, British and Iraqi forces.
War with Iran, is it inevitable and near?
http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=2062
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April 10th, 2008 at 11:01 pmPetraeus could have sat in front of Congress and talked about his grandmother, or his childhood, and Kristol-Lieberman-Bennett would find a way to turn that into the need to bomb Iran..
April 10th, 2008 at 11:03 pmCYAlis: Because covering your ass is always more important than doing the right thing.
April 10th, 2008 at 11:59 pmThe audacity of these people to say such a thing!
What they are is evil warmongers and they should STFU!
April 11th, 2008 at 12:19 amI am so tired of hearing about, seeing, or reading in blogs about these bozos. War with Iran has been off the table for months now, what the hell are these cretins smoking?
April 11th, 2008 at 12:22 amOh, they’ll hit Iran all right….
This crop of malevolent thugs won’t miss an opportunity to use “war” for what they hope is partisan political advantage.
Catastrophe looms for the Rethuglican party, and the consequences of a Democratic administration and Congress uncovering the the totality of the unlawfulness, venality, and incompetence of the Dubya maladministration is too daunting to take lying down. In particular, if McCain’s chances look poor, count on the bombs falling in September or October.
Cheers,
April 11th, 2008 at 12:34 amWar mongers each and every one of them. these guys just don
April 11th, 2008 at 2:09 amThese guys just don`t know when to quit, do they.These men are cheer leading the president to start another act of aggression in another Islamic country ,what the hell is wrong with these people. These people are not Americans at all!!!!
April 11th, 2008 at 2:15 amI honestly hope if there’s a mission to bomb sites in Iran without Congress’ approval, a declaration of war would be in order, that the mission is aborted by someone.
This is a Slim Pickens situation here, folks. If we do this I would not be surprised if Europe is no longer friendly and Russia, maybe China might follow suit. We’re not really bound to Europe by any blood oath, it’s good will and democracy but if we regress then they won’t follow.
Our country and good position could last a long time but not if we are reckless. Rome fell, Mongolia used to be rich, Japan thought they were led by a demi-god emperor and couldn’t be stopped.
If it goes through Congress then we need to replace the government.
April 11th, 2008 at 2:43 amYou can only build political support for an Iranian strike with the 20 or so people who are still in the Neocon camp. The American people themselves would be up in arms if Bush bombed Iran. And what makes them think that the Iranian people would welcome this? That – more than anything else – would drive the people of Iran further into the arms of the mullahs. What totally useless people Kristol-ball and Lie-bermanian are. If they want to have a tussel with the Iranians, let’s send them both to Tehran – I’m sure Evan Prison would welcome them.
April 11th, 2008 at 9:21 amIt’s up to the commanders to disobey orders that are immoral or criminal-particularly those orders emanating from Kristol-Bush discussions. Haven’t we taken enough abuse from Neo Con moles that control a small number of military ideologues and an effete dictator?
The last place totalitarianism should get a foothold is in our country. Dangerous ideologues like Kristol, Podhoretz, Boot, and others should be fully exposed along with their Neo Con spawning ground, the “American” Enterprise Institute.
Again, it’s up to our generals and admirals to just say, NO! to socialism and the anti-Americanism it represents. Instead, they should make it known how they feel, and in force. Parasitic ideological infiltrators have no business affecting our nation’s survival or manipulating our commanders from the chimp down.
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http://www.light-to-dark.com/neo_con_totality.html
April 11th, 2008 at 1:34 pmSo what’s the problem with an attack on Iran? It sounds like a helluva lotta FUN.
April 11th, 2008 at 2:44 pmNope, not a typo. He said that.
April 11th, 2008 at 3:05 pmDoes anyone really think our congress gives a crap about the Jews? Hell NO! We just want an ally in the middle east and they are as good as any. If we ever get a strong hold in Iraq then Israel will become yesterday’s news. The U.S. is keeping it’s collective eyes on the prize!
May 15th, 2008 at 7:55 amIf only Condi saved her dressessohbet instead of cleaning them. But in today’s twisted America, I don’t believe anything would happen if George Bush was cetcaught in bed with a dead girl AND a live boy. And it all procedes with a cheeky grin and a sickening smugness that is as arrogant as it is insultingBedava mp3 indir.
April 11th, 2009 at 1:03 pm