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ThinkFast: April 10, 2008

By Think Progress on Apr 10th, 2008 at 9:01 am

ThinkFast: April 10, 2008


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A new Pew Research Center poll finds that the majority of the American public believes that in the past five years, “they either haven’t moved forward in life (25%) or have fallen backwards (31%). This is the most downbeat short-term assessment of personal progress in nearly half a century of polling” by the organization.

House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) is expected to announce today that conservatives will drop their push to pass an update to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act in order to shift their focus to the economy. This strategy was detailed in the inaugural edition of the “Freedom File” e-mail — “a monthly memo to GOP activists — from Boehner’s political action committee, Freedom Project.”

Tribunals for six detainees at Guantanamo Bay charged with war crimes related to the Sept. 11 attacks have “hit a snag” as military defense lawyers are “in short supply.” In the two months since the charges were announced, “not one of the six detainees has met his military lawyer.” Now, “a growing consensus among lawyers” believes that few of the detainees’ “cases are likely to actually come to trial before the end of the Bush administration.”

“Dozens of Afghan men who were previously held by the United States at Bagram Air Base and Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, are now being tried here in secretive Afghan criminal proceedings based mainly on allegations forwarded by the American military.” Human rights investigators report that the trials can last anywhere from 10 minutes to a couple of hours, and can result in prison sentences of up to 20 years.

Testifying to the House yesterday, Amb. Ryan Crocker said “his embassy was still preparing a report that would measure progress toward the 18 benchmarks that Congress set last year to help assess progress on the ground” in Iraq. However, a “senior administration official” said “the administration had abandoned the benchmarks as a strict standard of progress because establishing a secure Iraq would also depend on factors other than political and military progress.”

“[B]y hedging on whether he will support” the 21st Century GI Bill, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) “is casting doubt on his own commitment to the newest generation of American heroes,” write Gen. Wesley Clark and Jon Soltz, chair of VoteVets.org, in an LA Times op-ed today. “[J]ust because our service members are selfless does not mean they deserve to be left to fend for themselves as they return home and try to make a better life.”

As “Americans are cutting back on driving as they feel the pinch from high oil prices and a soft economy,” demand for gas “has trailed year-earlier levels over the past 12 weeks, the longest period of sustained lower demand since 1991.” But, with oil finishing at $110.87 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange yesterday “after the federal government reported a sharp drop in crude inventories,” the price of gasoline is still continuing to rise.

The Senate is debating a rule pertaining to children’s health insurance which states that lower-income children should get coverage before those in families that earn more. “This change could force states to drop tens of thousands of children from the program in August.”

And finally: Sens. Hillary Clinton (D-NY), John McCain (R-AZ), and Barack Obama (D-IL) all “made taped appeals for charity on a special edition of ‘American Idol’ on Wednesday night.” Their spots, however, were cut because producers “evidently felt that the candidates didn’t have the same cachet.” However, the event — which “went too long” — did feature Fergie, Bono, Brad Pitt, Mariah Carey, and Miley Cyrus. The candidates’ taped appearances are expected to air tonight.

What did we miss? Let us know in the comments section.



90 Responses to “ThinkFast: April 10, 2008”

  1. 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda says:

    Food Price Rises Threaten Global Security – UN

    Rising food prices could spark worldwide unrest and threaten political stability, the UN’s top humanitarian official warned yesterday. Two days of rioting took place in Egypt over the doubling of prices of basic foods.

    Sir John Holmes, the UN’s emergency relief coordinator, said that escalating prices would trigger protests and riots in vulnerable nations. He said food scarcity and soaring fuel prices would compound the damaging effects of global warming. Prices have risen 40% on average globally since last summer.

    “The security implications [of the food crisis] should also not be underestimated as food riots are already being reported across the globe,” Holmes said. Josette Sheeran, director of the UN Food Programme, said: “We are seeing a new face of hunger. We are seeing food on the shelves but people being unable to afford it.”

    http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/04/09/8192/

    ** UK Professor John Beddington, warned the effects of the food crisis would bite more quickly than climate change. He said the agriculture industry needed to double its food production, using less water than today.


  2. And the beat goes on says:

    Starving Haitians riot as food prices soar
    Demonstrators have tried to storm the presidential palace in the Haitian capital, Port-au-Prince, as protests over hunger and rising food prices spread across the developing world.

    Demanding the resignation of President René Préval, the protesters attempted to break through the palace gates before being driven back by a contingent of Brazilian United Nations peacekeepers who used tear gas and rubber bullets.

    The prices of basic foods such as rice, beans, condensed milk and fruit have risen by more than 50 per cent in Haiti, where the poor even rely on biscuits made of mud to get through the day. Even the price of this traditional Haitian remedy for hunger pangs has gone up to more than $5 (£2.50) for 100 biscuits.

    There is now a grave danger of a coup being triggered in what is the poorest country in the western hemisphere. Rising costs of commodities and basic foodstuffs have brought immense hardship to the population, 80 per cent of whom survive on less than £1 a day and only a minority has paid full-time jobs.

    snip

    The rising food prices are causing waves of unrest around the world. In Manila, troops armed with M-16 rifles now oversee the sale of subsidised rice, the latest basic crop to see a spike in prices. In Egypt, Indonesia, Ivory Coast, Mauritania, Mozambique, Senegal, Burkina Faso and Cameroon there have been protests in recent weeks all related to the food and fuel prices.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/starving-haitians-riot-as-food-prices-soar-807016.html

    Things you won’t find in MSM. This is really serious. Even countries not considered 3rd world are concerned about this.


  3. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    will drop their push to pass an update to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act in order to shift their focus to the economy.

    I suspect this is mostly due to the fact that these Republicans have gotten an earful from their constituents and have decided that it’s more important for them that they are re-elected than it is for them to continue to carry water for a very unpopular president. It is also probably due to the fact that their “fear factor” didn’t work this time like it did the last time.


  4. DieNowForPeace says:

    WASHINGTON – U.S. soldiers are committing suicide at record levels, young officers are abandoning their military careers, and the heavy use of forces in Iraq has made it harder for the military to fight conflicts that could arise elsewhere.

    Army under stress from long wars

    Both the Army and Marine Corps have been forced to take equipment from non-deployed units and from pre-positioned stocks to meet needs of those in combat — meaning troops at home can’t train on the equipment.

    National Guard units have only an average of 61 percent of the equipment needed to be ready for disasters or attacks on the U.S., Missouri Democrat Ike Skelton lamented at Wednesday’s hearing of the House Armed Services Committee.


  5. 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda says:

    And the beat goes on Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 9:11 am
    Starving Haitians riot as food prices soar

    ** I notice we’re often on the same page, whether its GM Crops or Food Crisis. Are you looking at my notes?


  6. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    Now, “a growing consensus among lawyers” believes that few of the detainees’ “cases are likely to actually come to trial before the end of the Bush administration.”

    What a crock. I’m betting there are plenty of military defense lawyers who would be more than happy to represent these guys. My bet is on the fact that the simply don’t have credible cases against the detainees and they know that a kangaroo court isn’t going to go over well with “we the people”.

    Hopefully Obama will just let them all go home once he is elected. Even if a few of them really are bad guys, what’s a few more enemies after all the newly minted enemies Bush has created by his imperialistic policies.


  7. Uncle Ho says:

    Rethuglic view of the new G.I. Bill-

    this is the ownership society- you are on your own for a college education. Tough shit, vets- support the troops is a slogan, not a program.


  8. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    Human rights investigators report that the trials can last anywhere from 10 minutes to a couple of hours, and can result in prison sentences of up to 20 years.

    Oh wonderful. We have just transferred our kangaroo courts out of the United States like we transferred torture to black sites.

    What has the Bush Crime family done to this country. Hopefully we will be able to recover. That’s not going to happen if McCain is our next President and we need to make sure that the people in this country clearly see that McCain is nothing more than an older and crankier Bush.


  9. And the beat goes on says:

    2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 9:16 am
    And the beat goes on Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 9:11 am
    Starving Haitians riot as food prices soar

    ** I notice we’re often on the same page, whether its GM Crops or Food Crisis. Are you looking at my notes?

    Great minds think alike! I think there are many issues being passed over by progressives and this is a huge issue! I am trying not to picture bread lines and fuel lines in my town.


  10. 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda says:

    Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 9:14 am
    will drop their push to pass an update to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act in order to shift their focus to the economy.

    I suspect this is mostly due to the fact that these Republicans have gotten an earful from their constituents…
    —————————
    This was a grass-roots victory.

    Led by the people at Firedoglake, Glenn Greenwald, Keith Olbermann HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of people bombarded the Congress with phone calls, emails and faxes demanding that the 4th amendment to the Constitution be upheld.

    This shows you that even when a small but determined number of people ROAR we can put the fear of g*d into our elected officials.

    If you particpated in this victory you should take a moment to congratulate yourself.


  11. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    However, a “senior administration official” said “the administration had abandoned the benchmarks as a strict standard of progress because establishing a secure Iraq would also depend on factors other than political and military progress.”

    I wonder if Hillary learned how to move the goalposts from the Bush Administration.

    This is all a bunch of BS. The escalation was sold to us as the only way that we could secure Iraq and allow for political and military progress. This will go on forever until everyone in Congress comes to the realization that we are occupying Iraq, we are not in a war. And there is no way to “win” an occupation.


  12. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    “[B]y hedging on whether he will support” the 21st Century GI Bill, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) “is casting doubt on his own commitment to the newest generation of American heroes,”

    Has anyone asked McCain why he isn’t supporting this bill? I think that the soldiers in our military and their families deserve an answer, a straight up answer as to why. Obama has turned his attention on to McCain. This is something he needs to hammer on at every campaign stop.


  13. 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda says:

    And the beat goes on Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 9:21 am
    2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 9:16 am
    And the beat goes on Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 9:11 am
    Starving Haitians riot as food prices soar

    ** I notice we’re often on the same page, whether its GM Crops or Food Crisis. Are you looking at my notes?

    Great minds think alike! I think there are many issues being passed over by progressives and this is a huge issue! I am trying not to picture bread lines and fuel lines in my town.
    ———————–
    The privatization of WATER is coming next. Think I’m kidding?

    http://www.alternet.org/water/81301/


  14. Freedom Rebel says:

    Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) “is casting doubt on his own commitment to the newest generation of American heroes,”

    If he doesn’t endorse the 21st Century GI Bill soon, it further proves how little he thinks about the returning vets and the issues we feel are important for the US to move forward.


  15. Zimzone says:

    “[B]y hedging on whether he will support” the 21st Century GI Bill, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) “is casting doubt on his own commitment to the newest generation of American heroes,”

    The Dem candidates should be shouting this from the rooftops. McWarmonger isn’t supporting a GI Bill, and he has voted against increased Veteran benefits at least 10 times since Bush stole the WH.


  16. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    The Senate is debating a rule pertaining to children’s health insurance which states that lower-income children should get coverage before those in families that earn more. “This change could force states to drop tens of thousands of children from the program in August.”

    Wonderful, all we need is a bill that ensures that we cover less children rather than more. Why in hell did Harry Reid allow this bill to come before the Senate. Why doesn’t he play the game the same way the Republicans did…if they didn’t like a bill they simply didn’t allow it to come before the Senate.

    How do we get a new Senate Majority Leader? Will President Obama have anything to say about it or is it something done strictly within the Democrats in the Senate?


  17. gummitch says:

    Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 9:25 am

    Has anyone asked McCain why he isn’t supporting this bill? I think that the soldiers in our military and their families deserve an answer, a straight up answer as to why. Obama has turned his attention on to McCain. This is something he needs to hammer on at every campaign stop.

    Give McCain a break! He’s been too busy to read the bill, and he’s only had it a year. These things take time.


  18. Marie says:

    Curiously, Petraeus and Crocker are giving a press conference now, but the questioners are not seen on camera.
    If a “staged” press conference had not been given by this administration in the past, with planted questioners, I wouldn’t give this a second thought.


  19. McWars says:

    Public control of utility companies works. Public control of the post office works. Public control of policing services works.

    Think it’s about time the government does more to increase food supply, prevent droughts and enact a national health insurance program with little to no co-pays and deductibles?

    I must be dreaming. As long as the rich can afford to eat well, there’s nothing wrong with the current system.

    Good posts, 2mil and Atbgo.


  20. misshusseinmolly says:

    I cannot understand why McCain is ducking the G.I. bill. This is a bill he co-sponsored, for heaven’s sake. His excuse that he “hasn’t seen the final legislation” doesn’t wash. I find it difficult to believe that he can’t be faxed the most current copy of the bill. And he’s had plenty of time to read it.

    If the bill has morphed into something he can no longer support, then he should tell us what he objects to and why.

    Is that problem that the bill was introduced by a Democrat (Webb)? Since the bill has bipartisan support, this would be the perfect opportunity to show that he’s capable of bipartisanship, and he will be a president of cooperation in getting things done — sure to win more points with the voters who’ve had enough of Bushco obstructionism.

    Is the problem that he’s afraid of alienating the far right? I doubt he would lose many votes over this one. Even those few who would have a problem with truly supporting the troops in this manner aren’t likely to jump ship and support the Democrat over this issue.

    Is the problem the cost of the bill? Fine — then let him explain to the people why, in the absence of a draft, this benefit won’t be worth it in terms of aiding the recruitment of badly needed personnel.

    C’mon, Senator. This is a fairly simple thing to do. Look at the bill you co-sponsored. And then either support it openly or reject it with an explanation. If you can’t even make a commitment for this no-brainer, why should we trust you’ll be able to handle far more complex issues as President?


  21. wijg says:

    House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) is expected to announce today that conservatives will drop their push to pass an update to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act in order to shift their focus to the economy.

    Someone please tell boehner & friends to leave things alone. Haven’t they screwed this country up enough?


  22. Kay says:

    This is why we stay in Iraq:

    US Lawmakers Invested in Iraq, Afghanistan Wars

    Abid Aslam / Inter-Press Service | April 8, 2008

    WASHINGTON – U.S. lawmakers have a financial interest in military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, a review of their accounts has revealed.

    Members of Congress invested nearly 196 million dollars of their own money in companies that receive hundreds of millions of dollars a day from Pentagon contracts to provide goods and services to U.S. armed forces, say nonpartisan watchdog groups.

    David Petraeus, the top U.S. general in Iraq, is to brief the Senate Foreign Relations and Armed Services committees on Tuesday and Wednesday. The latest findings are unlikely to have a significant impact on this week’s proceedings but could stoke anti-incumbent sentiment in this year of presidential and legislative elections.

    Lawmakers charged with overseeing Pentagon contractors hold stock in those very firms, as do vocal critics of the war in Iraq, says the Centre for Responsive Politics (CRP).

    Senator John Kerry, the Democrat from Massachusetts who staked his 2004 presidential bid in part on his opposition to the war, tops the list of investors. His holdings in firms with Pentagon contracts of at least five million dollars stood at between 28.9 million dollars and 38.2 million dollars as of Dec. 31, 2006. Kerry sits on the Senate foreign relations panel.

    Members of Congress are required to report their personal finances every year but only need to state their assets in broad ranges.

    Other top investors include Representative Rodney Frelinghuysen, a New Jersey Republican with holdings of 12.1 million – 49.1 million dollars; Rep. Robin Hayes, a North Carolina Republican (9.2 million – 37.1 million dollars); Republican Rep. James Sensenbrenner Jr. of Wisconsin (5.2 million – 7.6 million dollars); and Rep. Jane Harman, a California Democrat (2.7 million – 6.3 million dollars).

    Sen. Jay Rockefeller, the Democrat and former governor of West Virginia who chairs the Senate Select Intelligence Committee, invested some 2.0 million dollars in Pentagon contractors, CRP says.

    Other panel chiefs who invested in defence firms include Sen. Joseph Lieberman, the Connecticut Independent who presides over the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, and Rep. Howard Berman, the California Democrat who heads the House Foreign Affairs Committee.

    In all, 151 current members of Congress — more than one-fourth of the total — have invested between 78.7 million dollars and 195.5 million dollars in companies that received defence contracts of at least 5.0 million dollars, according to CRP.

    These companies received more than 275.6 billion dollars from the government in 2006, or 755 million dollars per day, says budget watchdog group OMB Watch.

    The investments yielded lawmakers 15.8 million – 62 million dollars in dividend income, capital gains, royalties, and interest from 2004 through 2006, says CRP.

    Not all the firms deal in arms or military equipment. Some make soft drinks or medical supplies and military contracts represent a small fraction of their revenues. Many are leaders in their industries and, as such, feature in the investment portfolios of millions of ordinary people who invest at least a portion of their savings in mutual funds, which in turn hold stocks in up to hundreds of companies.

    “Giant corporations outside of the defence sector, such as Pepsico, IBM, Microsoft and Johnson & Johnson, have received defence contracts and are all popular investments for both members of Congress and the general public,” says CRP.

    “So common are these companies, both as personal investments and as defence contractors, it would appear difficult to build a diverse blue-chip stock portfolio without at least some of them,” the group acknowledges.

    If some of the stocks appear innocent, aides say legislators also are. Some did not buy the stocks in question but inherited them. Many hold them in blind trusts, so called because the investments are handled by independent entities, at least theoretically without the politicians’ knowledge of how their assets are being managed.

    Even so, according to CRP, owning stock in companies under contract with the Pentagon could prove “problematic for members of Congress who sit on committees that oversee defence policy and budgeting.”

    Members of the Senate Foreign Relations and Armed Services committees held 3.0 million – 5.1 million dollars in companies specialising in weapons and other exclusively military goods and services, it added.

    Critics have assailed President George W. Bush and Vice President Richard Cheney for their ties to companies seen as benefiting from the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. Bush was characterised as pushing conflict in the interest of the oil fraternity whence he hailed.

    Before becoming vice president, Cheney headed Halliburton, a major player in the oil services industry and the object of controversies involving political connections, government contracts, and business ethics.

    Halliburton’s subsidiary, Kellogg Brown & Root, was given multi-billion-dollar contracts to provide construction, hospitality, and other services to the U.S. military following the 2003 invasion of Iraq. The contracts drew fire because of Cheney’s history and then-ongoing financial relationship with the firm, and because the company did not have to compete for the Pentagon’s business. The firm was renamed KBR Inc. after Halliburton spun it off last year.


  23. Zimzone says:

    House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) is expected to announce today that conservatives will drop their push to pass an update to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act…

    Does this mean we’re all going to die now? Isn’t that what we were told would happen?

    Will Boner be first; & will he go out crying?


  24. And the beat goes on says:

    #13 2million…

    California has had an ongoing battle for years between the “north and south” regarding water rights. Northern California is a huge agricultural region and needs water to maintain this. Privatization will destroy the area.


  25. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    U.S. soldiers are committing suicide at record levels, young officers are abandoning their military careers, and the heavy use of forces in Iraq has made it harder for the military to fight conflicts that could arise elsewhere.

    And, heaven help us if we ever have something really bad happen at home. Our National Guard was created to protect our country and to help in times of need. But a majority of our National guard and the equipment they need are in Iraq. This branch of the military was NOT created as an alternative pool of soldiers.

    Just think what would happen if the unthinkable was to occur, like a so-called suitcase bomb going off in a major city. That city and the surrounding areas would be pretty much SOL.

    I believe that the National Guard should be the first military that Obama should bring home. And this government needs to replace all the equipment that they commandeered from the National Guards in every state. It should not be left up to the state to bear the financial burden to replace something the Federal government took from them.


  26. McWars says:

    Here comes McCain again..


  27. DieNowForPeace says:

    Senator John Kerry, the Democrat from Massachusetts who staked his 2004 presidential bid in part on his opposition to the war, tops the list of investors. His holdings in firms with Pentagon contracts of at least five million dollars stood at between 28.9 million dollars and 38.2 million dollars as of Dec. 31, 2006. Kerry sits on the Senate foreign relations panel.

    This is what I was trying to convince barfly of yesterday, but he’s too blinded by his love for the “never-do-wrong” Dems.


  28. barfly says:

    House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) is expected to announce today that conservatives will drop their push to pass an update to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act in order to shift their focus to the economy.

    Translation: House republicans will rail against the profligate democrats, while quietly inserting billions of dollars of earmarked pork into spending bills.


  29. And the beat goes on says:

    Cyber War: Preparing Combat Forces for the Electromagnetic SpectrumInterview with Major General William T. Lord Commander Air Force Cyberspace Command

    Preparing Combat Forces for the Electromagnetic Spectrum
    Major General William T. Lord is commander, Air Force Cyberspace Command (Provisional), Barksdale Air Force Base, La. He is responsible for establishing cyberspace as a domain in and through which the Air Force flies and fights, to deliver sovereign options for defense of the United States. In his current duty, he is creating the Air Force major air command for organization, training and equipping of combat forces to operate in cyberspace.

    Q: What is the mission of Air Force Cyberspace Command?

    A: The mission of the provisional command is to set up the activities, processes and manpower necessary for the actual command when it gets formed. We anticipate that being October 1, 2008, for initial operational capability, followed by full operational capability in October 2009.

    The mission of that organization will be, as with other Air Force major commands, to organize, train and equip combat forces, in this case, for the conduct of cyber-operations. In the cyber-domain, we identify activity as establishing, using and operating in. We define the domain as the entire electromagnetic spectrum. We present combat forces through a combatant commander, in this case mostly U.S. Strategic Command.
    snip
    Q: What existing organizations or functions have been or will be incorporated into the command, and what will the command ultimately be in terms of structure, number of personnel, facilities and so on?

    A: The headquarters function will be between 400 and 500 people, and will include operational elements of the Air Force Information Operations Center. We will stand up an electronic warfare wing, and a cyber-wing. We will incorporate the existing wing of the 67th Network Warfare Wing. None of these organizations will change their location. There will be elements from Air Force Space Command that will be chopped over to us. We’re looking at the potential for the 193rd Wing, a National Guard unit, and there are Reserve Associate units that we’re looking for. The headquarters element is really the only new element, with the rest principally existing units that would be formed into wings under a numbered Air Force.

    http://blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=6187

    Cyber wars – I am surprised this hasn’t started earlier. Did this have anything to do w2ith the cables vcut in the mideast?


  30. barfly says:

    DNFP:This is what I was trying to convince barfly of yesterday, but he’s too blinded by his love for the “never-do-wrong” Dems.

    If some of the stocks appear innocent, aides say legislators also are. Some did not buy the stocks in question but inherited them. Many hold them in blind trusts, so called because the investments are handled by independent entities, at least theoretically without the politicians’ knowledge of how their assets are being managed.

    I still haven’t been proven wrong. And I’m no lockstep dem, no matter how wide a brush you use. Too bad if you can’t handle the facts. I thought you were supposed to be one of the reality-based community.


  31. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    The privatization of WATER is coming next. Think I’m kidding?

    I’m quite sure they would do that if they thought they could get away with it.

    Personally I think that any natural resource we use to sustain ourselves should be nationalized. That goes for natural gas, oil and electricity. People should not be getting rich off of taking the resources provided by mother earth and selling it to us so that we can survive.


  32. DieNowForPeace says:

    I still haven’t been proven wrong.

    Not trying to prove you wrong. Facts? You think facts are pertinent when dealing with elected officials and their hidden agendas?

    Obviously, you’re not a member of an reality based community either, or you’d be able to see that “Blind Trusts” are bullshit.



  33. DieNowForPeace says:

    Many hold them in blind trusts,

    Great for many, but what about the rest?????

    You should be wary of practicing your own version of “blind trust”.


  34. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    C’mon, Senator. This is a fairly simple thing to do. Look at the bill you co-sponsored. And then either support it openly or reject it with an explanation. If you can’t even make a commitment for this no-brainer, why should we trust you’ll be able to handle far more complex issues as President?

    I think the fact that McCain won’t even talk about this bill is proof positive that he is nothing more than a puppet candidate. I suspect that there is a cadre of Republicans who are telling him what positions to take on issues and if he doesn’t, they will make sure that he gets relatively little financial support from the Republican party for his campaign in the general.


  35. DieNowForPeace says:

    at least theoretically without the politicians’ knowledge of how their assets are being managed.

    More “blind trust” facts to make you feel better about your favorite elected officials huge profits from the war.


  36. Zimzone says:

    I love the smell if socialism in the morning…

    yes, it sure beats Trollshit…


  37. misshusseinmolly says:

    Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 9:35 am
    And, heaven help us if we ever have something really bad happen at home. Our National Guard was created to protect our country and to help in times of need. But a majority of our National guard and the equipment they need are in Iraq. This branch of the military was NOT created as an alternative pool of soldiers.
    _________________________________________________

    This is what concerns me, and should concern every American. While all of our resources are concentrated halfway across the world, what’s stopping any determined group of terrorists from going for a “fast break” and hitting us while we are essentially defenseless at home?


  38. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    Kay Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 9:34 am

    One person not mentioned in the list of congresspeople invested in the Iraq occupation is Diane Feinstein. That is probably because the investments are in her husband’s name. I suspect if they listed her, she would be at the top of the list. Which explains why she has become Bush’s enabler in the last 4-5 years. I expect Diane will be retiring in 2010 and she is feathering her nest for a cushy retirement. Shame on her and all the Democrats who are heavily invested in the Military Industrial Complex.


  39. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    # terryclothcabeca Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 9:48 am

    Troll on aisle 6, Troll on aisle 6 – TP called for a cleanup.


  40. Bluestocking says:

    Tribunals for six detainees at Guantanamo Bay charged with war crimes related to the Sept. 11 attacks have “hit a snag” as military defense lawyers are “in short supply.” In the two months since the charges were announced, “not one of the six detainees has met his military lawyer.” Now, “a growing consensus among lawyers” believes that few of the detainees’ “cases are likely to actually come to trial before the end of the Bush administration.”

    *********************************************************

    If I may be somewhat juvenile for a moment…well, duh!!!!! Anyone else remember Lt. Commander Andrew Williams — the military defense lawyer (whose story was featured here on TP some months back) who resigned his commission because he felt that he couldn’t continue to maintain his ethics and integrity while participating in a system which refuses to recognize waterboarding as torture. For that matter, what about Lt. Commander Charles Swift — the military defense lawyer who was passed over for promotion and forced out of the military (probably at least in part in retaliation for Swift’s successful defense of detainee Salim Ahmed Hamdan before the US Supreme Court)? Even a former prosecutor in the military commissions process, Col. Morris Davis, resigned in October of last year due to his own ethical concerns over the process.

    If the Bush administration is suffering from a shortage of military defense lawyers, it seems likely that they only have themselves to blame — because if these cases are anything to go on, it appears that participating in the military commissions process for the detainees means that military defense lawyers will find themselves in between a rock and a hard place where they have to choose between their ethics as lawyers and their careers in the military.


  41. hussein toasterhead says:

    And the beat goes on Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 9:21 am

    Great minds think alike! I think there are many issues being passed over by progressives and this is a huge issue! I am trying not to picture bread lines and fuel lines in my town.
    ____

    Oh yeah? Well I blogged about it yesterday! So consider yourselves both behind the curve! Ha!


  42. hussein toasterhead says:

    terryclothcabeca Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 9:48 am

    I love the smell if socialism in the morning
    _____

    Whatever, Trajan. Your professed love for mornings is too little, too late. You’re just trying to cover up your anti-sunrise bias.

    Luckily, the TP Watch Watch is on the case and CALLING YOU OUT, BUCK-O!


  43. McWars says:

    These democrats, sadly enough, are also enablers. It would been a lot easier to get out of this mess by preventing it in the first place. To date, the only democrat fully held accountable for giving this (p)resident this insane authority is Tom Daschle.


  44. Freedom Rebel says:

    Middle class grow fearful about their prospects

    WASHINGTON – Growing numbers of middle-class Americans say they are not better off than they were five years ago, reflecting economic pressures amid growing debt, a study released Wednesday shows. Their short-term assessments of personal progress, according to the study, is the worst it has been in almost half a century.

    The survey by the Pew Research Center, a Washington-based research organization, paints a mixed picture for the 53 percent of adults in the country who define themselves as “middle class,” with household incomes ranging from below $40,000 to more than $100,000.

    It found that a majority of Americans said they have not progressed in the past five years. One in four, or 25 percent, said their economic situation had not improved, while 31 percent said they had fallen backward. Those numbers together are the highest since the survey question was first asked in 1964. Among the middle class, 54 percent said they had made no progress (26 percent) or fallen back (28 percent).

    This will dramatically effect the coming election. Very few people have been untouched by the last 5 years; from losing a home, job, corporate downsizing, stock market fluctuating, sky rocketing fuel prices or the lose of a loved one in the war.

    McCain is too self absorded to even relate.


  45. Doc Rock says:

    While the American taxpayer is bilked out of billions for enriching contractors who are above the law and beyond standards of decency, the Iraqi government sequesters billions in overseas banks while the American taxpayer funds improvements in schools, sewers, hospitals, etc.! And also our President tries to choke off funding health care for the children of America’s poor and struggling working class families by executive fiat! How much longer will Reid, Pelosi, and the Democratic Party permit this looting of America by Cheney-Bush?


  46. Freedom Rebel says:

    Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 9:57 am
    # terryclothcabeca Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 9:48 am

    Troll on aisle 6, Troll on aisle 6 – TP called for a cleanup.

    That is a good one. I love it when you play TROLL MONITOR. It is very entertaining…


  47. 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda says:

    And the beat goes on Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 9:35 am
    #13 2million…

    California has had an ongoing battle for years between the “north and south” regarding water rights. Northern California is a huge agricultural region and needs water to maintain this. Privatization will destroy the area
    ———————–
    And everybody wants to tap into Lake Michigan, the Southern and Western states. Fifty years from today there will be water wars in the U.S. too.


  48. Fred says:

    A new Pew Research Center poll finds that the majority of the American public believes that in the past five years, “they either haven’t moved forward in life (25%) or have fallen backwards (31%). This is the most downbeat short-term assessment of personal progress in nearly half a century of polling” by the organization.

    For all of you in the working class who voted republican because of the wedge issues they use like gay marriage, prayer in school, creationism/evolution, be advised that this is what the republicans had in mind.

    This happens every time a republican is in power. It was predictable and was predicted by many. Why do you keep voting against your own best interest?


  49. Fred says:

    terryclothcabeca Says:
    One more you missed.

    We will soon be missing you again…..better get more names, 400 aint gonna last a week.

    flagged.


  50. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    terryclothcabeca Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 10:15 am
    One more you missed.

    37 million immigrants cost U.S. $346 billion
    _____________

    This article is from the Moonie Times and was based on research done by a man deeply involved w/ the National Review. Try again.


  51. Uncle Ho says:

    Kay; good post @ 9:34

    In his farewell address, Eisenhower warned against the influence of the military-industrial complex.

    Today, the government IS the military-industrial complex.


  52. McWars says:

    If any of you know of the case of a 16-year-old girl being attacked viciously by 7 other teens, with the video stuck on YouTube, I think it’s a good idea to contact YT and their advertisers to let them know it’s not acceptable to compound on a victim’s suffering by posting their attack on the web for deviants to devour. This is pop culture gone to hell.


  53. And the beat goes on says:

    #42 hussein toasterhead Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 10:00 am

    Oh yeah? Well I blogged about it yesterday! So consider yourselves both behind the curve! Ha!

    There are many bloggers on this website that belong in a great minds category! That’s why I like reading and posting here. Has this been posted yet?

    Philippines threatens rice hoarders with life imprisonment

    Filipinos face life in prison if they’re caught hoarding rice.
    “The Department of Justice is preparing economic sabotage or plunder charges that carry a life sentence against traders found to be hoarding rice, the price of which has risen sharply amid a tight global supply,” The Inquirer reports. “Although the country has yet to experience a shortage, Justice Secretary Raul Gonzalez Thursday vowed to hale to court hoarders and other unscrupulous rice traders for acts ‘inimical to the public interest.’”

    http://blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=6180


  54. hussein toasterhead says:

    terryclothcabeca Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 10:15 am

    37 million immigrants cost U.S. $346 billion

    Funny how that story doesn’t mention the sales and income tax collected from immigrants, nor the contribution to the GDP from immigrant-run and immigrant-focused businesses.


  55. L. Hussein Annie says:

    House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) is expected to announce today that conservatives will drop their push to pass an update to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act in order to shift their focus to the economy. This strategy was detailed in the inaugural edition of the “Freedom File” e-mail — “a monthly memo to GOP activists — from Boehner’s political action committee, Freedom Project.”

    OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! DON’T DO THAT!!! WE’RE ALL GOING TO DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIE!!!!!!! THE TERRAISTS WILL COME AND KILL US IF THE TELECOM COMPANIES DON’T HAVE IMMUNITY!!!! HELP US, JOHN BOENER!!!!

    HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLP!!!! HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLP!!!!!!

    *EOS* (End Of Snark)


  56. DieNowForPeace says:

    Powell: Troops in Iraq must be reduced

    WASHINGTON – Former Secretary of State Colin Powell said Thursday that President Bush’s successor will have to come to grips with the reality that the United States cannot continue to keep such large numbers of troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.
    ADVERTISEMENT

    Without taking sides in the race for the White House, Powell said, “Whichever one of them becomes president on Jan. 1, 2009, they will face a military force that cannot continue to sustain 140,000 people deployed in Iraq and the 20 (thousand) odd or 25,000 people we have deployed in Afghanistan and our other deployments.”

    Shrub would rather destroy the US military to enrich his no-bid contract benefactors.


  57. GeeDubs says:

    So, first we had to have the benchmarks until we didn’t need them. This is such first-class bullshit it is insane.


  58. hussein toasterhead says:

    terryclothcabeca Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 10:28 am

    students at the event questioned the practices of Mrs. Obama’s event coordinators!!
    ____

    For what? Doing their job? President Bush’s advance folks do exactly the same thing when he speaks. So do Hillary’s, so do McCain’s, so do every politician’s. It’s part of the business of campaigning in our photo-op culture.


  59. Freedom Rebel says:

    The Best Way to Boycott the Olympics

    But the key to successfully boycotting the Olympics doesn’t rest with our ruffled American politicians. The only way to clearly denounce the corrupt behavior of the Chinese government is to withdraw corporate sponsorship from the Olympics.

    You see, though American citizens and politicians are dutifully outraged by the Chinese government’s repression and abuse of its own people, corporations can’t commit fast enough to spending millions for advertising in Beijing.

    So if you’re interested in really affecting the Olympics, first you have to stop the steady cash flow, and you can stop the cash by asking (pretty, pretty please) corporations to withdraw their ads from the Olympics.

    China is no different than our politicians, if you cut off the money source that is when you get their attention.


  60. McWars says:

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080409/NATION/341902874/%201002/NATION

    There’s probably more to the story with this link, as toasterhead pointed out, but I do agree that immigration should be considered on its economic merits. We need workers in shortage areas and an opportunity for them to become citizens.

    For every unskilled immigrant we admit to this country, we need an educated one to come here and create jobs for them and natives. There is such a thing as too much immigration, as well as a shortage of labor in specific fields.

    Obama’s plan stresses economic development in Mexico. That’s good, because while the U.S. is a nation of immigrants, we can’t accommodate everyone at once.

    While there’s more to the story, as I stated earlier, this research isn’t automatically disqualified just because it comes from the Washington Times or because the researcher may be conservative.


  61. fletc3her says:

    My favorite headline this morning is “Glenn Beck: America’s deadly addiction” from CNN’s home page. I must say that I have long considered Glenn Beck to be an affliction. It’s nice to see CNN upping the ante and declaring him not just an addiction, but a deadly addiction at that.


  62. Zooey says:

  63. Buckie Boy says:

    “detainees at Guantanamo Bay charged with war crimes”

    Bizzaroland, our WAR CRIMINAL BUSH ADMINISTRATION is charging other with war crimes, heres hoping that the next administration does the right thing and charges Bush/Cheney/and crew with their WAR CRIMES.

    But knowing how totally corrupt Washington DC is I’m not holding my breath.


  64. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    McWars Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 10:53 am

    “… this research isn’t automatically disqualified just because it comes from the Washington Times or because the researcher may be conservative.”
    __________________

    True… my reaction was basically to the troll’s intention for putting such an inflammatory meme out there.

    Immigration, both legal and illegal, is a very complicated and painful issue in this country. It’s been growing and growing for a long time, aided and abetted by politicians from both parties and partisans from both sides of the issue.

    I do object to a troll trying to make this problem look like something the “Dems/libs’ created. As far as that particular article goes, the writer doesn’t make a distinction, if I’m not mistaken, between legals and illegals, and then turns around and in the end, tries to pin the deficit on “the immigration problem”. I think we can discount that one pretty easily.


  65. misshusseinmolly says:

    fletc3her Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 11:01 am
    It’s nice to see CNN upping the ante and declaring him not just an addiction, but a deadly addiction at that.
    ________________________________________________

    Oh, good Lord. How does anyone get addicted to THAT? Well, I suppose people get addicted to all sorts of vile things.



  66. McWars says:

    TRoS, what you’ve raised is certainly very fair. Nothing against you in my original post. In my mind, the main gap in this report is, “The cost may be x to the federal government, but the contributions from immigrants must offset those costs to a significant degree. What are those figures?”

    Immigration, both legal and illegal, is a very complicated and painful issue in this country

    This is the primary reason I quiver when TP posts something on the topic — because it’s inevitably going to become very heated.


  67. pbg says:

    81% say America is on the wrong track. Crude is at $110.86 a barrel. People are scared to get sick. People are mailing the keys to their houses and getting in their truck to see if they can pick fruit in California. 80,000 jobs lost last month.
    The American Middle Class is seeing their way of life crumbling before their eyes. And behind it is the Republican Party wielding sledgehammers.
    And what do the media talk about? Obama’s bowling.
    This will not be the 2000 election–or the 2004 election.
    It’s going to be the 1932 election.


  68. hussein toasterhead says:

    Evil Spaniard Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 11:18 am

    Smallest extrasolar planet discovered: Spanish researchers
    ____

    Going somewhere, Evil Spaniard? *raises eyebrow*


  69. Tawdry says:

    The neocons got exactly what they hoped for when they managed George Bush into the presidency. The middle class is slipping downward alongside the poor and the rich are becoming very, very rich.For the first time in decades men are making less money than their fathers. Gone is the American dream. Unless your business is oil.


  70. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    McWars Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 11:28 am

    TRoS, what you’ve raised is certainly very fair. Nothing against you in my original post. In my mind, the main gap in this report is, “The cost may be x to the federal government, but the contributions from immigrants must offset those costs to a significant degree. What are those figures?”

    Immigration, both legal and illegal, is a very complicated and painful issue in this country

    This is the primary reason I quiver when TP posts something on the topic — because it’s inevitably going to become very heated.
    ________________

    Which is also why the issue NEEDS to be brought up and discussed INTELLIGENTLY and HONESTLY, and not used as an inflammatory and divisive wedge issue, like the troll was trying to do.

    We’re okay, McWars.

    May the Snark be with you!


  71. robertoroberto says:

    American Airlines are cancelling flights left and right to do some “re-wiring.” Call me crazy, but i can’t shake the feeling that this something untoward. Anyone else thinking the same thing or am i losing it. Be honest.


  72. McWars says:

    The trolls, General Snarkington, are no doubt the negative chemical reaction in this debate. If cooler heads could have prevailed years ago, we’d be enjoying a 21st Century immigration system.

    But many issues have been tangled these last several years. We can’t be surprised that this one is any different.

    You’re a good man, TRoS.


  73. Evil Spaniard says:

    hussein toasterhead Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 11:38 am
    Evil Spaniard Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 11:18 am

    Smallest extrasolar planet discovered: Spanish researchers
    ____

    Going somewhere, Evil Spaniard? *raises eyebrow*

    Well, a bit of national pride isn’t bad, eh?


  74. barfly says:

    Facts? You think facts are pertinent when dealing with elected officials and their hidden agendas?

    Obviously, you’re not a member of an reality based community either, or you’d be able to see that “Blind Trusts” are bullshit.

    Facts? We don’t need no stinking facts! I don’t think you’ve realized yet that you are conflicting yourself in the space of two sentences.

    Why do I even bother?


  75. hussein toasterhead says:

    Evil Spaniard Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 11:52 am

    Well, a bit of national pride isn’t bad, eh?
    ____

    Oh no – of course not. I was just wondering if the entire nation of Spain was planning on weaseling out of the effects of climate change and global recession by taking a 30 light-year trip to GJ 436T. It wouldn’t be the first time!


  76. Evil Spaniard says:

    hussein toasterhead Says:

    Oh no – of course not. I was just wondering if the entire nation of Spain was planning on weaseling out of the effects of climate change and global recession by taking a 30 light-year trip to GJ 436T. It wouldn’t be the first time!

    Heh, well, travelling 30 ly to a 300C degrees in the surface planet isn’t exactly a winning recipe to evade GW. And I mean Global Warming, not GW Bush. But a McCain win would make it really a reallistic option.


  77. hussein toasterhead says:

    McWars Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 11:51 am

    The trolls, General Snarkington, are no doubt the negative chemical reaction in this debate. If cooler heads could have prevailed years ago, we’d be enjoying a 21st Century immigration system.
    ____

    It’s also worth mentioning that immigration has been an issue in this country since the Puritans landed and began worrying about the next generation of boats to arrive. I’d even wager that the first Siberian tribes to cross the Alaskan land bridge were suspicious of all the tribes that followed them.

    In the 1850s, it was Anglo-Saxon Protestants who feared that the massive influx of German and Irish Catholics would destroy the moral fabric of America. In the 1880s, the European-descended Americans banded together to keep the Chinese from destroying the moral fabric of America. In the 1920s, we tried to keep the Jews and Eastern Europeans from destroying the moral fabric of America. In the 1950s we tried to keep the Communists from destroying the moral fabric of America. From the 1960s to 1990s we tried to keep Mexicans and other Latin Americans from destroying the moral fabric of America.

    So here we are in the 2000s, the moral fabric of America still intact, trying to protect ourselves from the next wave.

    Interesting thing – these anti-immigrant waves all seem to coincide with slow or stagnant economies. Coincidence?


  78. Evil Spaniard says:

    hussein toasterhead Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 12:15 pm

    Interesting thing – these anti-immigrant waves all seem to coincide with slow or stagnant economies. Coincidence?

    Most probably, spurred by the dear leaders, who want to distract the attention of their sorry management of the economy. They need someone to pin The Blame(tm) on.

    It’s the horse that rode Hitler.


  79. RUCerious says:

    However, a “senior administration official” said “the administration had abandoned the benchmarks as a strict standard of progress because establishing a secure Iraq would also depend on factors other than political and military progress.”

    Goalposts? They used to be right around here, somewhat north, east and south of Tikrit!


  80. zuch says:

    Two of the items above (lack of lawyers and the Afghan courts) may be related. Jes’ saying.

    Cheers,


  81. CZ-1 says:

    2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 10:13 am

    FYI It’s actually 2.5 million light years to Andromeda. ;-)

    By comparing the absolute and apparent magnitudes, Ribas’s team concluded the Andromeda Galaxy is 2.52±0.14 million light-years from Earth. This agrees perfectly with the Cepheid-based distance to Andromeda: 2.5 million light-years.

    http://www.astronomy.com/asy/default.aspx?c=a&id=3640


  82. Chocolate Jesus says:

    McCain condemns democrat troop tour reduction plan identical to Bush’s:
    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/10/111740/750/61/493202


  83. Chocolate Jesus says:

    >Is the problem that he’s afraid of alienating the far right?

    Yep, the right wing nutballs like the trolls that used to infest this place have absolutely zero tolerance for dissent, disagreement, or working with anyone who doesnt agree with your viewpoint 100 percent. This is why so many of them hate mccain, because he only disagrees with them 90 percent of the time and not 100 percent. Yet now, he has to pander to them, tell them lies about iran that even dick cheney wont repeat, or they will turn thier viscious slander machine.

    I do agree with what someoen else said, the war machine doesnt want to troops to be educated, because if more of them were better educated, they might start to get second thoughts about being sent thousands of miles away and leaving thier old ladies to get porked by the rest of the apartment complex, just so some fat rich dude can watch his defense stocks rise..


  84. Chocolate Jesus says:

    >because he only disagrees with them 90 percent of the time

    should have been “agrees”


  85. Bluestocking says:

    American Airlines are cancelling flights left and right to do some “re-wiring.” Call me crazy, but i can’t shake the feeling that this something untoward. Anyone else thinking the same thing or am i losing it. Be honest. — RobertoRoberto

    ***********************************************************

    Under normal circumstances, I’d say that you’re losing it. However, at least in my own estimation, I wouldn’t call what we’ve been living through for the past six-odd years under the Bush administration anything remotely resembling normal — and considering the fact that many legitimate questions continue to go uninvestigated and unanswered surrounding 9/11 (such as, as an example, the dramatic surge in “put options” placed on Boeing stocks as well as American Airlines and United Airlines stocks days before 9/11), I for one can’t blame you for at least momentarily thinking that perhaps this might be a ruse enabling someone to put the mechanisms (literal as well as figurative, perhaps) in place for a “false flag” operation of some sort such as 9/11 is believed by some to have been. After all, let’s face it…George W. Bush’s credibility with the American people is at an all time low, voters appear to be leaning in the direction of selecting a Democrat for President come November, and the economy is not in good shape. As reluctant as I am to voice it, if there truly are people within the Bush administration and/or its supporters who would be willing to use a “false flag” operation to accomplish their objectives (whatsoever those might be) — and frankly, I personally wouldn’t put anything past most of these people — the next few months would be an ideal time to pull such a thing off.


  86. 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda says:

    CZ-1 Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
    2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda Says:
    April 10th, 2008 at 10:13 am

    FYI It’s actually 2.5 million light years to Andromeda. ;-)

    ———————

    But the distance is closing fast. In the not too distant future Andromeda and the Milky Way will collide and become one super galaxy.

    A little known fact is that our galaxy is CURRENTLY colliding with two smaller galaxies. One is called the Sagittarius Dwarf galaxy and the other is called the Canis Major dwarf galaxy. ** Both these screen names are currently available to potential TP members.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/1202/p25s01-stss.html


  87. DieNowForPeace says:

    Cheney, others OK’d harsh interrogations

    WASHINGTON – Bush administration officials from Vice President Dick Cheney on down signed off on using harsh interrogation techniques against suspected terrorists after asking the Justice Department to endorse their legality, The Associated Press has learned.

    The officials also took care to insulate President Bush from a series of meetings where CIA interrogation methods, including waterboarding, which simulates drowning, were discussed and ultimately approved.

    A former senior U.S. intelligence official familiar with the meetings described them Thursday to the AP to confirm details first reported by ABC News on Wednesday. The intelligence official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to publicly discuss the issue.

    LINK


  88. youtube says:

    If only Condi saved her dressessohbet instead of cleaning them. But in today’s twisted America, I don’t believe anything would happen if George Bush was cetcaught in bed with a dead girl AND a live boy. And it all procedes with a cheeky grin and a sickening smugness that is as arrogant as it is insultingBedava mp3 indir.



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