Right-Wing Video Warns ‘Gay Activists’ Are Plotting To ‘Take Over The Cities Of America’
Right-Wing Video Warns ‘Gay Activists’ Are Plotting To ‘Take Over The Cities Of America’
Recently, Oklahoma State Rep. Sally Kern (R) came under intense criticism for making a host of incendiary remarks toward gays. For example, she said gays are a “bigger threat” to our nation than terrorism. She also warned, “Gays are infiltrating city councils.” As an example, she cited the town of Eureka Springs, AR, whose city council she claimed is now “controlled by gays.”
The American Family Association (AFA) has joined in promoting this myth of the evil gay agenda in a new video called “They’re Coming To Your Town.” The poster advertising the DVD appears to have menacing rainbow-like lights in background. PageOneQ summarizes the trailer for the video:
The presentation in the AFA trailer…”They’re Coming to Your Town,” tells the tale of an uncharacteristically diverse resort town’s government infiltrated by “a handful of homosexual activists” and bent to their will through the enactment of the town’s domestic partner registry on June 22, 2007.
“Watch, and learn,” says the trailer, “how to fight a well-organized gay agenda to take over the cities of America, one city at a time.”
Watch the trailer here.
Eureka Springs is not pleased with people such as Kern, who claim that they have the city’s best interests at heart. Responding to Kern, Eureka Springs’s mayor said the city is “welcoming to all visitors and residents without regard to their race, color, sex, age, sexual orientation, disability or national origin. It is our hope that all people would aspire to this ideal.”
This is not the first time AFA has launched a homophobic campaign. In 2005, AFA president Tim Wildmon backed a warning about “evidence of homosexuality and lesbian people on programs like HGTV and Animal Planet.” AFA founder and chairman Don Wildmon also proposed a hypothetical trip to “the homosexual bathhouses,” saying, “[W]e’re going to confront these people…for what they’re doing.”
You know, until now it hadn’t occurred to me that I have some sort of sinister force within my gayness that drives me to colonize gaydem into Oklahoma and Arkansas. After all, I just crave men with potbellies, polyester short sleeved dress shirts, bad haircuts, worse table manners, and brains the size of raisins. Yep, sounds like Paradise to me.
Fortunately, this video has awakened me. Look out, Oklahoma and Arkansas, I’m on my way. And I’m bringing a great big can of pink paint."
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“They’re coming to your town”
April 14th, 2008 at 2:31 pmSorry to burst your bubble, but they are already there. They’ve been there all along. They are your friends, your neighbors, your relatives. Now what are you going to do?
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The American Family Association WANTS an agenda from the gay community that threatens the family, but it ain’t happening so they have to manufacture the threat.
REMEMBER:
THEY(sic) HATE US FOR OUR FREEDOMS…
And so THEY(sic) create a climate of FEAR so as to attempt to undermine those freedoms.
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April 14th, 2008 at 2:34 pmBut will they help you party down?
April 14th, 2008 at 2:35 pmoh no!!!! guess k-y would be a good thing to put my money into then?
thanks gays!
jebus.
April 14th, 2008 at 2:35 pmQ U E S T I O N:
April 14th, 2008 at 2:35 pmHow many homosexuals must be cleansed from “our towns” so as to satisfy the AFA?
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Dr. Hussein Matt Says:
Reich-wingers actually fear homosexuals. What wimps! How can reich-winger “think” they can protect Americans when they quake at the thought of two women or two men having sex. What pathetic lowly cowards…..
they don’t fear them… THEY ARE THEM!
April 14th, 2008 at 2:36 pmI would think this would only worry someone if they were afraid that they were gay…. ahhhhh, that explains it
April 14th, 2008 at 2:36 pmEureka Springs is not pleased with people such as Kern, who claim that they have the city’s best interests at heart.
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Homophobia, bigotry, ignorance, intolerance, and the very notion that some people are more equal than others is in my “best interest” — how?
April 14th, 2008 at 2:39 pmOK. I’m gay. There. I’ve said it and I’m proud.
You know, until now it hadn’t occurred to me that I have some sort of sinister force within my gayness that drives me to colonize gaydem into Oklahoma and Arkansas. After all, I just crave men with potbellies, polyester short sleeved dress shirts, bad haircuts, worse table manners, and brains the size of raisins. Yep, sounds like Paradise to me.
Fortunately, this video has awakened me. Look out, Oklahoma and Arkansas, I’m on my way. And I’m bringing a great big can of pink paint.
April 14th, 2008 at 2:40 pmThey’re coming to get you, Larry Craig!
April 14th, 2008 at 2:40 pmWow — who knew that gays were so scary? Is homosexuality contagious or something?
April 14th, 2008 at 2:40 pmOK HypoChristians(R), now that you know my sin, can we talk about your’s?
April 14th, 2008 at 2:42 pmAwww… I’ll just color you Stupid, jdc.
April 14th, 2008 at 2:43 pmCould we finally get the Department of Homeland Security running efficiently, to combat the rising domestic threats? AFA may have
April 14th, 2008 at 2:43 pmhad a fitting existence in the 50s, but now they’ve morphed into a terrorist organization. President Obama, please watch them closely.
Ohhhhh, projecting just a tad there aren’t we….considering the Religious Right have been infiltrating local politics to take back America, or whatever they call their religio-jingoistic agenda today, since their leadership set them to the task during the Reagan Administration.
April 14th, 2008 at 2:44 pmjdc Says:
April 14th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Most conservatives I know don’t have a problem with all gays. Just the guys and ugly lesbians.
Don’t paint us with such a broad brush.
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I can just see it now. “Gays are out to get us — except for the hot looking lesbos in the mud pit, they’re OK”
April 14th, 2008 at 2:44 pmOh, FFS!!! These people are nuts.
April 14th, 2008 at 2:44 pmI thought I was “gay”, once.
Turned out I was just “happy”… and then that passed too.
So now I’m back to normal… just another angry, bitter, gun-totin’ Bible-thumper.
April 14th, 2008 at 2:44 pmWHOA!!!!!!!!
“Hot Lookin’ Lesbos in the Mud Pit”???????????????
That’s gotta be on Fox!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 14th, 2008 at 2:46 pmso isn’t jdc basically saying that hot girl-on-girl porn is just A-O. K. with him, but the rest of the icky gays can just suck his co(k?
April 14th, 2008 at 2:46 pmThe buildings in the poster are in Amsterdam. On the Herengracht, to be specific.
April 14th, 2008 at 2:47 pmIs this about Holland’s legalization of gay marriage? Better include Spain in that list.
Yeah… but that doesn’t mean jdc is gay, Ralph.
He cain’t help it iffin’ “Teh Gay” find him too darn sexy for his own good!
April 14th, 2008 at 2:49 pmBiggs Says:
OK. I’m gay. There. I’ve said it and I’m proud.
April 14th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
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Oh no! I’m posting on the same webternet as a gay?
The sanctity of my marriage is ruined! RUINED!
April 14th, 2008 at 2:50 pmOMG! Gays are getting elected to public office. How could that happen? There must be a bunch of people who should be stripped of their voting priveleges. Lock up the gays and their supporters in the nearest closet.
/snark off
April 14th, 2008 at 2:51 pmBut just think of the upside, hussein toasterhead…how much better your taste in decor will get… and your ability to dance to hot disco music…
April 14th, 2008 at 2:54 pmAll troll ‘jdc’ learned in life, he learned from Old School.
April 14th, 2008 at 2:54 pmOh sure….a republican preacher wants to go to gay bathhouses to confront the gay’s in them.
Somehow….I don’t know why, but somehow I can’t help but thinking this confrontation might be somewhat homoerotic in nature and conclude with a “happy ending” of sorts.
April 14th, 2008 at 2:55 pm“They’re Coming to Your Town”
Pretty much sums up the ENTIRE rightwing worldview doesn’t it?
April 14th, 2008 at 2:56 pmEnough of the attempted fear mongering reich-wingers…the gays are out and America really does not care. Thank you in part to the various radio talk show hosts such as Rachael Maddow, Carl Wolfson at Portland’s KPOJ, Karel at KGO, David Bender at AAR and others who have openly stated they are gay and have demonstrated to the masses that it does not really matter.
Obama ‘08
April 14th, 2008 at 2:57 pmMost conservatives I know don’t have a problem with all gays. Just the guys and ugly lesbians.
Otherwise known as “mom and dad,” on the JDC homestead.
April 14th, 2008 at 2:57 pmkindness Says:
Oh sure….a republican preacher wants to go to gay bathhouses to confront the gay’s in them.
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Then he’ll prolly find Darryl there.
April 14th, 2008 at 2:58 pmSpeak of the Devil!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA….
April 14th, 2008 at 2:58 pmjdc doesn’t want to be painted with a “broad” brush. I must, therefore, assume that he would prefer a “guy” brush. Does he want pink paint with that? Biggs, can you spare a can of yours? (BTW, welcome, Biggs)
April 14th, 2008 at 2:59 pmThose right-wing crazies tend to infiltrate school board and other public offices one at a time to spread the intelligent design, anti-gay, pro-bigot agenda. THEIR agenda will be our ruin, and THEY ARE COMING TO YOUR TOWN!!
April 14th, 2008 at 2:59 pmWow. A gay thread, and, right on cue, Daryll appears.
April 14th, 2008 at 2:59 pmThe gaydar is strong in this one, Young Skywalker.
Daryll Says:
Jesus said’ “where there are two or more in the midst, he would reveal himself”.
April 14th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
So they had Gaydar back then?
April 14th, 2008 at 3:00 pmQuick, someone hit Daryll – he’s skipping.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:02 pmjdc Says:
I’m just an angry, bitter, small town typical white person.
April 14th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
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The Republic of Stupidity Says:
So now I’m back to normal… just another angry, bitter, gun-totin’ Bible-thumper.
April 14th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
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Sorry, son. I already staked my claim to that turf.
All we have left for today is “Bigoted, Irrational Loony”, which you may take as yer own… (but I secretly suspect yer “one of them” and hate yerslef fer it…)
April 14th, 2008 at 3:03 pmOh, good! It’s time for another command performance from The Performance Artist Known as Daryll!
Sit back, kiddies — you’re in for a treat. No one on the whole of the internets does a better “wacky anti-gay Christian” imitation than TPAKAD. And be sure to join in the fun — boo him, hiss when he enters, even post comments to him. Daryll will react just like a real Christofascist would! It’s ever so fun!
April 14th, 2008 at 3:03 pmHea, TP,
Where’s the pretty RED FLAGS so that we can flag the flaggarts like Daryll?
April 14th, 2008 at 3:04 pmDaryll Says:
“The devil is a liar and he must be rebuked”
I wholeheartedly agree, Daryll. Unfortunately Pelosi seems to have misplaced her table and there isn’t enough holy water in the world to take down Dick Cheney!
April 14th, 2008 at 3:05 pmJesus hates gays
This I know
For the Bible tells me so
Only straight ones to Him belong
They are right, eveyone else is wrong
Yes, Jesus hates gays
Yes, Jesus hates gays
Yes, Jesus hates you
The Bible tells me so.
/sanrk off
April 14th, 2008 at 3:06 pmBiblical Standards?? not enough stonings this week, big D??
religion is a PRIVATE matter, as is sexuality.
Dragging either into the public sphere demeans everyone and devalues all.
Anyone who wants to regulate sexuality better be prepared to let the IRS into their Church to make sure everything’s on the up and up.
Side note- here in my County, just last week, a Minister was sentenced to 26 years for sexually molesting underage Parishioners.
The Bible-thumpers where I live are the danger – never heard of a gay person being sentenced to anything, for anything.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:06 pmWhat do they care? They live in the suburbs…
April 14th, 2008 at 3:06 pmIf a gay couple move in next door, do I have to get a divorce?
April 14th, 2008 at 3:06 pmMy, my, my…I’m just having a hissy fit that that mean Daryll would say that I’m a no good person for loving another no good person. I mean, come on! Homosexuals have given us nothing but wars and economic distress and Constitution trampling and…oh wait…that’s the Christo-fascists of the Republican Party…sorry…my bad.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:07 pmDaryll is gay for jebus
April 14th, 2008 at 3:07 pmHey, Daryll, the AFA is a terrorist organization, and assuming that you’re a member of that organization, you’re a co-conspirator.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:07 pm…is this a joke? Some kind of satire or something?
These shrieking imbeciles are becoming so laughably ridiculous they are becoming virtually impossible to parody; they’re reaching a saturation point of stupidity.
They are stupid.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:08 pmJebus said ‘Love Thy Neighbor.’ I’m just taking him at His word.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:08 pmmisshusseinmolly Says:
Homophobia, bigotry, ignorance, intolerance, and the very notion that some people are more equal than others is in my “best interest” — how?
April 14th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
I don’t know but JDC is a racist and proves it in the McCain against torturing Americans thread. Just cause I said I was a brown female, he attacked me for no reason!
April 14th, 2008 at 3:08 pmHanddukskalle Says:
April 14th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
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Is there a translator on the thread?
This one is speaking Gibberish.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:08 pmIf the gay fascists and Al Caca both come to middle america, it will still be about .000009% of the population. It will be two people trying to make it on their wages and far too busy to promote any agenda at all, let alone find a support group.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:09 pmIt is in your best interst, misshusseinmolly, to GET WITH THE PROGRAM and condemn those terrible queer persons for having the effrontery to show you that they CARE about another human being!!!
April 14th, 2008 at 3:09 pmPeople who worry too much about other people’s sexuality, are too insecure of their own…
April 14th, 2008 at 3:09 pmI’m not sure… I’ve only recently been paying attention to the AFA, so I could be wrong… but I think that you don’t legally HAVE to get a divorce yet, but Teh Gays are trying to change that. Then you’ll have to marry one of them.
Daryll, do I have that Right?
April 14th, 2008 at 3:09 pm#51 Handdukskalle Says:
You’re just angry because we don’t tolerate intolerance…
Intolerance that leads to murder… I do not tolerate hate!
You may, in fact practice it, but in that, YOU are intolerable.
Peace.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:10 pmJesus said’ “where there are two or more in the midst, he would reveal himself”.
Uh, er, wouldn’t he get like, arrested for that?
April 14th, 2008 at 3:11 pmum darryl, jesus was probably gay… all he did was hang out with 12 GUYS all the time…
well there is that whole thing where he was married and had a kid too….
hmmm..
April 14th, 2008 at 3:12 pmPremise 1: Some writers of the Bible condemn homosexuality
Premise 2: Jesus did not condemn homosexuality
Premise 3: People deny basic human rights to homosexuals
on the basis of the Bible’s condemnations
Premise 4: Jesus demanded that his followers work against
oppression
Premise 5: The devil can deceive and manipulate man
Premise 6: The devil cannot deceive or manipulate Jesus
Conclusion: The writers of the Bible who condemned homosexuality and those who presently follow them have been deceived by and are doing the work of the devil.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:12 pmOK ralph, you can come clean the water off my monitor!
April 14th, 2008 at 3:12 pmDaryll – Gosh, I guess God wanted to get rid of those nice suburban housewives that have HIV, too. I mean, they CANNOT get their flower beds in order!!! They didn’t obey God to put them in neat little rows like a robot, so they have to sacrifice everything.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:12 pmThe AFA is to Christianity what dark is to light. Those who teach hatred and intolerance are the opposite of what they try to portray themselves as.
Daryll – that goes for you as well.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:14 pmDaryll
April 14th, 2008 at 3:14 pmGays are not trying to take over the cities any more than you and I. Why does you God create gays if they are not allowed to live in the biological standards they were created in? Could you be forced to live in a world of being gay? Neither could I, therefore we must respect their world, accept it and learn to live with it without judgment or condemnation.
Daryll, maybe you should just follow those confusing urges you’re having and see where they take you. Don’t fight the ocean, friend, or you’ll drown.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:14 pmWhat happened to both the “report” and “rate” options at the bottom of each post?
April 14th, 2008 at 3:14 pmI see The Performance Artist Known As Daryll™ is taking full advantage of the absence of flag buttons, and claiming that AIDS is God’s retribution on Teh Gays while he can get away with it.
Always pushing the envelope of internet performance art, that’s our Daryll.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:14 pmOnly if one of ‘em was an undercover cop.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:15 pmYes, Daryll – Octamethyl makes a good point. It seems though dost protest too much. You may find much more in God through a loving relationship with a person of the same sex than a life of misery trying to prove you’re straight.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:15 pmNEWS FLASH for all homophobic morons: they’re not “coming to your town.” They have long since been there–from the dawn of time–interacting with you, working with you, laughing with you, suffering with you, living around you, and having absolutely NO effect on your sexual orientation or the manner in which you live your lives.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:16 pmYes you are.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:17 pmCome ON, Red Pill! All my co-workers HAD to turn gay when they found out I was one!
April 14th, 2008 at 3:17 pmAre gays with us or against us? errhhhhhhh!
April 14th, 2008 at 3:20 pmI hear ya, GeeDubs…
I remember, lo these many years ago, in the heady days of my youth, sitting on the “sexual fence,” if you catch my meaning, as an innocent pre-pubescent child, when suddenly, Sally Jo Walker came strolling by. Struck as if by a ton of bricks, I decided in that fateful moment, “Yup–it’s HETERO for me, baby!”
It’s been a tough row to hoe, but I’ve stayed the course. Will Smith and Dylan McDermott have, of course, put my convictions to the test…
April 14th, 2008 at 3:20 pmDr. Hussein Matt Says:
Apple supports homosexuality and is a very left-wing liberal corporation.
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Geez, Doc, wouldn’t that mean Darryl has been… infected?
Unless, of course, he had an exorcism performed on his iPhone first…
Back to you, Darryl.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:21 pmHey, Darryl… quick question for you…
Was it God’s will that Arthur Ashe, Ryan White, and Tom Fogerty all contracted AIDS thru blood transfusions and died from it?
April 14th, 2008 at 3:22 pmI’ve always been amazed that some think that gay is contagious or that somehow is synonymous with pedophilia. Ignorance is no excuse, simple logic should suffice.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:22 pmDaryll666, check your incoming call. God doesn’t like to be put on hold. He’s trying to get you to toss that I-Phone as far as you can throw it, preferably into a body of water.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:23 pmDaryll Says:
BLASPHEMY!!! HELL IS REAL!!!
April 14th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
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And you prove it every time you show up here w/ your ignorance and prejudices in tow. Hell on Earth, indeed!
April 14th, 2008 at 3:24 pmYou make a good point you darling small minded neoturd. I knew we were supposed to be saving all our irrational fear and hatred for Muslims. Remind your friends, would you.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:24 pmralph, gimme a high fiver!
April 14th, 2008 at 3:25 pmBut… but… Darryl, when you buy products from Apple, your money is helping to spread their evil… you are complicit.
You have SINNED, Darryl… SINNED!!!!
Repent, or come out… one or the other, Darryl…
April 14th, 2008 at 3:26 pmTHAT’S the Daryll we were expecting!
(Ralph stands and wildly applauds)
April 14th, 2008 at 3:26 pm“By their fruits, you shall know them,” Daryll. Shouldn’t an evangelical as conscientious as yourself seek only the purer path of consumption? Or does the cash register jingle signify consent?
April 14th, 2008 at 3:27 pmJesus created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve or Eve and Evette.
?? I thought it was God who created them?
Anyhow, since you want to tell us your fairy tales, here’s a good one…
Once upon a time, Little Red Riding Hood decided to go visit her grandmother, who lived on the other side of the woods…
April 14th, 2008 at 3:27 pmDaryll, Hell is your concept, your creation, if you believe in it you can go there. Don’t be surprised when you get there that your punishment will be eternal sodomy with a bible for perverting the truth. love is love.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:27 pmAh, but Daryll, God created everything, right? The sun and the moon and the stars and animals and plants…and PEOPLE! All sorts of people! If homosexuality is so awful, why would God have created it? And if homosexuality if so awful, and there have been many instances where gays were thrown out of their parents home for being gay, why would a person continue to be gay? If heterosexuality is so great, why are there so many gays that come from the union of a man and a woman?
April 14th, 2008 at 3:29 pmI am proposing that my church go on weekend tours through the Northwest Pacific college campuses and homosexual chapters
Woo Hoo! Bring it on! Make sure you post your itenerary, so I can make time in my busy schedule to show up.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:29 pmWell then pass out the condoms Daryll because that’s how they have sex in countries where they have no birth control. That’s how aids has flourished in Africa and how teens who have taken the abstinence only pledge are doing it. God you’re stupid.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:29 pmDaryll, God tells me that homosexuality is fine with him, as long as it is based on love, since its His creation. Moses (allegedly) disagreed. I’ve never murdered anyone. Moses did. Who are going to believe.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:30 pmSt D. Make sure you plan to visit Bellevue Community College, where I teach on the weekends. They have an active Gay and Lesbian community and club, and would LOVE to have you sit in, or even make a presentation!
April 14th, 2008 at 3:31 pmI gotta give you credit for a gorgeous assist, RUC. You arched a perfect pass right above the rim, and all I had to do was tap it home.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:31 pmDaryll Says:
Satan comes in very enticing forms. Jesus created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve or Eve and Evette.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
April 14th, 2008 at 3:31 pm_____
That was Yahweh, not Jesus.
Daryll Says:
Your comments are proof as to why I am proposing that my church go on weekend tours through … homosexual chapters so we can earnestly pray under the influence of the holy spirit to remove these demonic spirits.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
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“Homosexual chapters”? Does anybody have ANY idea what he’s talking about?
Mebbe fraternities? I mean, they do refer to themselves as “Greeks”…
Of course, some of the frat boys I’ve known in the past were pretty tough and kinda touchy about things like this, so’s I’d be careful iffin’ I were you, Darryl.
Stick to the bath houses…
You’re more likely to find the kind of “action” yer lookin’ fer.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:32 pmDaryll – And if you come back and say I chose this lifestyle, then you DO need a straight-jacket (pun intended). Why would I subject myself to the likes of YOU if I didn’t have to?
April 14th, 2008 at 3:32 pmThey have “chapters” now!?!!
omigod!! It’s TRUE!!! They ARE trying to infiltrate!!!
Quick! Everyone run home and shut yourself up in a closet! IT’S THE ONLY PLACE THAT’S SAFE!!!!
April 14th, 2008 at 3:33 pmCome on, TP, until we get our “Recommend” buttons back, comments like this will simply go uncelebrated. That’s not right.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:35 pmPlease remove homosexuality from those who are suffering from this satanic illness.
Wow, this is pretty egregious, for someone with XianInsanity to call gays satanic. Look in the mirror, see if you even have a reflection, dude.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:35 pmWell Snarky snark snark…
Geez, guys.
I cain’t help but feel yer jes’ not takin’ Darryk seriously here.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:35 pm“Sin and socialism,” Daryll? How dare you so limit God that he would either care about or invest Himself in the petty political constructs of this world! Who’s the blasphemer now?
April 14th, 2008 at 3:36 pmOh, by the way, your email address is misspelled, it should read laNERD2003@yahoo.com
April 14th, 2008 at 3:37 pmDaryll Says:
Trust me, I living my life God’s way. I am waiting to be caught up to meet him in the air.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
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***Snort…***
You can’t make up stuff this good. Gold… pure gold…
April 14th, 2008 at 3:37 pmTRoS, my deepest snarkpologies, but this is just too much fun to pass up.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:38 pmDaryll Says:
Heavenly father,
This post has proven that we need your help, satan wants to take over this country, but we will not allow it because you said we are more than conquerers through you. You said we can do all things through you, who strengthens us. Please help us remove sin and socialism from our society. Help us understand that you constantly preach self reliance and following your biblical standards. Please remove homosexuality from those who are suffering from this satanic illness. And I will give you all the praise, honor and glory for ever, Amen! Thank You Jesus!
April 14th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
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God reads ThinkProgress?
Cool! I knew He was a lefty. Jesus definitely was.
Oh, and I forget – in which parable did Jesus preach “self-reliance” and the “sins of socialism?” Was it the same verse that he said his disciples should own Lear Jets and earn millions of dollars in “first fruits?”
April 14th, 2008 at 3:38 pmThat’s IDLE mind, Geebus Daryll, get your frikkin scripture sayings straight (no pun intended)
April 14th, 2008 at 3:39 pmThen… who created them?
And if someone else created them against God’s wishes, then your God is not so “all-powerful” now, is He?
April 14th, 2008 at 3:39 pmDaryll says:
“An idol mind is the devil’s workshop.”
Well, Simon Cowell must be in deep sh!t…
April 14th, 2008 at 3:40 pmDaryll Says:
Because of satan’s works. No excuses, if you feel the temptations, read the word of God or begin to get on your knees and pray. An idol mind is the devil’s workshop.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
I think you probably spend too much time on your knees…
April 14th, 2008 at 3:40 pmDaryll, I’ve never had a lesbian impulse in my life but if you were the last man on earth you’d no doubt change that.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:40 pmDaryll Says:
…An idol mind is the devil’s workshop.
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It’s all those idols in there, getting in the devil’s way again!
April 14th, 2008 at 3:41 pmDaryll Says:
An idol mind is the devil’s workshop.
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It’s “idle”, not “idol”… but I wouldn’t expect you to get it right, huh?
April 14th, 2008 at 3:41 pmDaryll Says:
(speaking in tongues as the spirit gives utterance).
April 14th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
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Sounds like a scene from Bible School Bukakke Party 2. Great movie.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:43 pmRUCerious Says:
TRoS, my deepest snarkpologies, but this is just too much fun to pass up.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
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This is hysterical, RU. TP should schedule one of these every Monday, help get the week off to a good start!
April 14th, 2008 at 3:44 pmPatrioticLiberalChristian Says:
Premise 1: Some writers of the Bible condemn homosexuality
Premise 2: Jesus did not condemn homosexuality
Premise 3: People deny basic human rights to homosexuals
on the basis of the Bible’s condemnations
Premise 4: Jesus demanded that his followers work against
oppression
Premise 5: The devil can deceive and manipulate man
Premise 6: The devil cannot deceive or manipulate Jesus
Conclusion: The writers of the Bible who condemned homosexuality and those who presently follow them have been deceived by and are doing the work of the devil.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
bitblt appreciates that PLC is up front about calling right wrong and wrong right, which is what you do in your conclusion.
As to your premises…
One cannot categorically say that “Premise 2: Jesus did not condemn homosexuality.” is correct. One can say that the Bible doesn’t record Christ commenting directly on homosexuality. There are a number of specific sins – such a spousal abuse and child abuse – about which Christ doesn’t comment. The lack of comment doesn’t mean that he endorsed them.
Nowhere does the New Testament, which records many words of Christ, make the claim that it records everything that Christ did or said. In fact, the book of John, at the end of the book, makes it clear that if everything Jesus did had been recorded the books would fill the world.
Christ did categorically comment on appropriate sexual behavior in Matthew 19 where He said that the Creator intended a man and a woman to be one flesh. In bitblt’s opinion if one believes in Christ, Matthew 19 is the end word in appropriate, acceptable sexual behavior.
Just as adultery is not worth causing a separation from Christ, neither is homosexuality worth being separated Christ.
“Premise 3: People deny basic human rights to homosexuals on the basis of the Bible’s condemnations.” is misleading. Would you agree that the following statement is more representative of what the
Bible does or doesn’t say about homosexuality?
The Bible doesn’t give people the right to be a homosexual.
“Premise 4: Jesus demanded that his followers work against oppression.” For this one you’ll need a book, chapter, and verse. When you find that verse, you‘ll need to show that it says oppression includes attitudes toward homosexuality.
bitblt seems to recall that the NT says when one believes in Christ one is truly free, but this appears to only apply to believers.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:45 pmthose aren’t menacing lights – that’s a city skyline they’ve managed to color in. Of course, all things evil come from the city…
April 14th, 2008 at 3:46 pmCome on, guys, quit pointing out Daryll’s grammatical mistakes. It’s all part of his schtick, part of his “character”.
Complaining about it is like complaining about Jerry Lewis and his lack of coordination.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:46 pmOMG… he’s quoting chapter and verse now…
I’m melting… I’m melting…
April 14th, 2008 at 3:46 pmi love it when a tighty-righty quotes the bible, as though it has any relevance.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:47 pmDaryll – stop looking at scripture for a moment – which was written by MEN, by the way, and look at the devisiveness you are causing by making gays less than yourself. Look past the Biblical injunctions – which were written by MEN, by the way, and judge not lest ye be judged. With love and affection, GeeDubs
April 14th, 2008 at 3:48 pm“They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice…they invent ways of doing evil…they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless.”
Wow, the Bush administration is mentioned practically by name in the Bible!
April 14th, 2008 at 3:48 pmjdc, you can go back down and rest on the bench. Daryll and bitblt have this one covered. You’ll only get in their way.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:48 pmZOMG! Gay interior decorators on Home and Garden Television! Run for the hills!
April 14th, 2008 at 3:48 pmhussein toasterhead Says:
“Sounds like a scene from Bible School Bukakke Party 2. Great movie.”
April 14th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Hilarious!
April 14th, 2008 at 3:49 pmThanks, HT.
I am constantly amazed at the people who actually believe that one can be “converted” to being gay. No one can convert my sexual preference. Only people who are holding onto their heterosexuality by a thread believe that more out gay people could threaten their straightness.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:49 pmSheesh… now we have this idiocy in STEREO.
How odd some of these cretins only show up when they’re needed.
Darryl’s gittin’ larffed offin’ tha thread, and just like that…
It’s like someone conjured up a demon or sum’pin…
April 14th, 2008 at 3:49 pmUh-oh… DSaryll is quoting from Jesus’ Letter to the Romans… we’re through now…
–what? Jesus didn’t write Romans? Those aren’t HIS words?
Good news, gang! Daryll wasn’t quoting Jesus with those verses! He was quoting Paul! The rootin’-tootinest convert who ever rocked the establishment with his new discovery!
We’re back in business!
April 14th, 2008 at 3:51 pmjdc Says:
Do you guys type with one hand while patting your back with the other.
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Well it’s better than what you use the other hand for…
April 14th, 2008 at 3:52 pmGet on it, TP! We NEED those “Recommend” buttons!
April 14th, 2008 at 3:53 pmCappy Says:
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“They’re coming to your town”
Sorry to burst your bubble, but they are already there. They’ve been there all along. They are your friends, your neighbors, your relatives. Now what are you going to do?
April 14th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Get them to come out of the closet in the Republican party ………
April 14th, 2008 at 3:53 pmDaryll Says:
Trust me, I sent messages to the HG network about the bald guy and the sinner on HSN using scriptural proof, until I realized that satan was leading these corporations.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
— The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:54 pmThe Reich Wing:they hate, they fear, they warmonger, they are good Christian Soldiers, they all suck a$$.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:54 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
We’re back in business!
April 14th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
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Woo hoo! Crank up the disco music and break out the short shorts!
Time ta Boogie Down at TP!
Booma-chicka… booma-chicka… booma-chicka… booma-chicka… booma-chicka… booma-chicka… booma-chicka… booma-chicka…
April 14th, 2008 at 3:55 pmEven McCain wouldn’t endorse the torture Daryll is subjecting us to.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:55 pmDaryll Says:
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ZOMG! Gay interior decorators on Home and Garden Television! Run for the hills!
April 14th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Trust me, I sent messages to the HG network about the bald guy and the sinner on HSN using scriptural proof, until I realized that satan was leading these corporations.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Kind of ironic when Satan’s kid is the VP of the US , isn’t it ?
April 14th, 2008 at 3:55 pmDaryll Says:
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I am constantly amazed at the people who actually believe that one can be “converted” to being gay. No one can convert my sexual preference. Only people who are holding onto their heterosexuality by a thread believe that more out gay people could threaten their straightness.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Sure you can, just like women and men can convert to having sexual relations with the pets and farm animals. Does it make it right, NO!
April 14th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Then it would “behoove” you to give this same address at the Republican National Convention for their benefit ; and for the sake of the animals …………..
April 14th, 2008 at 3:56 pmDaryll is probably the funniest parody of a right-wing-fundamentalist I’ve seen on the internets yet.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:57 pmOK, I got moderated because of the “p” word. I’ll change it, even though it’s a legitimate anatomical word:
Daryll, if God created man in His image, does that mean that God has a p*n*s? If so, what for as He obviously didn’t need it to create Jesus, His only son? I’m not being sarcastic, here. This is a real theological issue, IMO.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:59 pmSez who?
I thought “President-Elect Huckabee” was God’s anointed?
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ZOMG! Gay interior decorators on Home and Garden Television! Run for the hills!
April 14th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Trust me, I sent messages to the HG network about the bald guy and the sinner on HSN using scriptural proof, until I realized that satan was leading these corporations.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Kind of ironic when Satan’s kid is the VP of the US , isn’t it ?
April 14th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Vice President Cheney is God’s anointed.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
“God” felt he should create a being who usurped the Constitution that believes himself to be above all laws ?
I thought the title of “Pope” was already taken ?
April 14th, 2008 at 4:01 pmDaryll Says:
Sure you can, just like women and men can convert to having sexual relations with the pets and farm animals. Does it make it right, NO!
April 14th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
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Okay… this is all becoming clear now.
Darryl got bored w/ good, old-fashioned straight sex, so he decided to check out “Teh Gay”… and liked it. But now, the thrill is fading, so he’s making the leap to beastiality…
Let’s face it, Darryl. From the amount of time you spend thinking about these things, it’s clear you’ve become OBSESSED w/ them. It’s ALWAYS on your mind… calling to you… tormenting you… the forbidden fruit… sweet… succulent… and just waiting… for you to reach out w/ your sweaty, shaking hand… and grab hold… and… and…
April 14th, 2008 at 4:02 pmI’m more interested in what you’re doing with your mouth and under whose desk.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:03 pmPseudonym Says:
I am constantly amazed at the people who actually believe that one can be “converted” to being gay. No one can convert my sexual preference. Only people who are holding onto their heterosexuality by a thread believe that more out gay people could threaten their straightness.
April 14th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Convert, or Recruited?
In situations like the Lawrence kid – his murder was reported by TP – where a young man comes out at an early age, it’s likely that he was “recruited,” not converted.
Applicable stats from http://www.frc.org Family Research Council
Homosexuality, Not ‘Homophobia,’ Is Health Risk
April 14th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
You talking about Daryll? Wouldn’t that be MISQUOTING?
April 14th, 2008 at 4:05 pmSouthern Man Says:
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Reich-wingers, approximately 5 to 10% of the population is gay. That means about 1 in 10 persons. So, next time you’re in a crowded restaurant, or ballpark, or movie theater, or concert, there is a very good chance that a person within a very close vicinity of you has “teh gay”. Deal with or move to a deserted island….you won’t be missed.
April 14th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
1 in 10? You are such an idiot. You must be gay to believe that number. Not that there is anything wrong with being gay, but you are always around when the subject is homosexuality and sex. Why is that Matt? Here is the most likely number-
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=478685
1-3 percent Matt. Get your numbers straight before you decide to post your scripted opinions.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Maybe the Doc has family/friends that are “teh gay” , and isn’t intimidated and actually views homphobia as the most reprehensible , bigoted , immature and idiotic of all the irrational fears most of you GOP/Chimpy leg humpers suffers from .
BTW
He’s correct
April 14th, 2008 at 4:06 pmActually, Shayne, perhaps “mangling” would be an even better choice of words there.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:07 pmVice President Cheney is God’s anointed.
Daryll, there’s a donkey in Auburn who is very interested in having sex with you…
April 14th, 2008 at 4:08 pmbitblt Says:
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April 14th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You post stats from the Family Retard (research) Council ?
You could find more applicable and worthy material inside a fortune cookie , you backwards-ass shithead……….
April 14th, 2008 at 4:08 pmDaryll, thanks for your answer. In this we agree. Now, if the “image” is spiritual, not physical, isn’t it the spiritual world, not the physical world that God wants in order. Sexuality belongs to the physical world. Whether that sexuality is founded on love is God’s concern. The homosexuality of the time of the Hebrew’s entering the Promised Land was manifested in pagan worship. The homosexuality of Paul’s time was a bond of military man and protege (pederasty) or prostitution. These are not the same as the modern homosexuality as an identity, as a loving relationship. You are much too caught up in the material, physical world. Do not be so concerned about eliminating the physical act of love. Focus on promoting the spiritual act of loving. THAT is the foundation of the real Good News.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:08 pmDr. Hussein Matt Says:
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Reich-wingers, approximately 5 to 10% of the population is gay. That means about 1 in 10 persons. So, next time you’re in a crowded restaurant, or ballpark, or movie theater, or concert, there is a very good chance that a person within a very close vicinity of you has “teh gay”. Deal with or move to a deserted island….you won’t be missed.
April 14th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Your 10% is a dated number. Try 2.4% of the males and %1.4 of the females.
References in the article at
http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2553
April 14th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Is there something curable with posters who refer to themselves in the third person?
April 14th, 2008 at 4:09 pmAw, this-a Bible-thumpin’ is making me itch for a homosexual encounter…gotta run, but it’s been real nice to get to know there peeps out there that truly should stay in the closet. Daryll, you know who you are…
April 14th, 2008 at 4:09 pmSouthern Man Says:
1-3 percent Matt. Get your numbers straight before you decide to post your scripted opinions.
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And somehow you and your fellow travelers are so thoroughly intimidated by such a small number of people.
How very telling… and sad…
April 14th, 2008 at 4:10 pmOh no you di’int!
April 14th, 2008 at 4:11 pmPrepare to burn baby!
Could Darryl, btlbt, or SM explain WHY “Homosexuality” is BY FAR the most referenced subject at Conservapedia?
For something they profess to find so repugnant, they seem to be OBSESSED w/ it.
Me’thinks they doth protest too much.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:12 pmThus we know this particular study wouldn’t account for Larry Craig, Ted Haggard, David Dreier or anyone else who, for whatever reasons, was reluctant to “identify (onesself) as gay, lesbian or bisexual”.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:15 pmPatrioticLiberalChristian Says:
These are not the same as the modern homosexuality as an identity, as a loving relationship.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Calling it ” a loving relationship” doesn’t do anything but put a caption on the two little grooms on the top of the wedding cake.
Does your idea make the following statement any truer?
Your comment tries to make the feelings of the participants more important than obeying God. It doesn’t work.
It also doesn’t work when a man-woman marriage is destroyed by adultery because someone made their feelings more important than obeying God.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:15 pmHmmmm. I believe we’re in far more danger from the legions of STUPID PEOPLE than we are from ‘the gays’.
Let’s get rid of them instead!
April 14th, 2008 at 4:15 pmbitblt Says:
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References in the article at
http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2553
April 14th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Hey dipshit
Ever hear of the term “reputable source(s)” ?
Look into it before posting more nonsensical links that are even more worthless than the garbage candidate the GOP have running for president………
April 14th, 2008 at 4:15 pmAnother CDC researcher, Richard J. Wolitski, stated that homosexual men report being victims of childhood sexual abuse at “rates that range between 12 and 37 percent [which is] much higher than rates for other men, which typically range from 1 to 4 percent.” And those who “came out” as “gay” at an earlier age were the most likely to have had “forced sex before they were 18.”
Anyone who has worked with sexual offenders or victims (I have counseled both) knows that sexual offenders look for vulnerable targets. A person in our culture whose sexual identity as a gay person is emerging would experience much insecurity, anxiety, and fear – the foundation of vulnerability. Add a little rejection from parents, friends, and neighbors and the vulnerability increases. You are trying to find a way to flip the cause-effect equation.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:16 pmThat’s quite a compliment coming from a JERK of your caliber.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:18 pmExcellent. This would get a big “Recommend” from me if it were in my power.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:18 pmI see the trolls are out in force. Daryll leads off with his biblical bull, trying to say that he’s ‘holier than thou’ to the rest of us. Then bitblt chimes in, and adds to the bs. And finally, Southern Man, no longer having to worry about the red flag, drops all pretenses of being a productive member of the forum and launches into a personal attack.
When the cat’s away the mice will play?
TP, fix the flagging system!
April 14th, 2008 at 4:18 pmAnd gay stupid people are the worst. You know, REPUBLICANS.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:20 pmbitblt Says:
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These are not the same as the modern homosexuality as an identity, as a loving relationship.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Calling it ” a loving relationship” doesn’t do anything but put a caption on the two little grooms on the top of the wedding cake.
Does your idea make the following statement any truer?
These – ancient adultery – are not the same as the modern adultery an identity, as a loving relationship.
Your comment tries to make the feelings of the participants more important than obeying God. It doesn’t work.
It also doesn’t work when a man-woman marriage is destroyed by adultery because someone made their feelings more important than obeying God.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
The divorce rate is the lowest in the country in ONE STATE ; the one that allows gay marriage , Massachusetts.
Your assessment is not only erroneous , but typically idiotic (which is no surprise when listening/reading trite crap from a Bible-thumping d-bag like yourself).
April 14th, 2008 at 4:20 pmjdc Says:
I’m impressed… it’s a biggie.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
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Awww… I’ll bet you say that to all the sailors you meet.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:21 pmjdc Says:
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I’m impressed.
When you guys decide to throw a circle jerk, it’s a biggie.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
And you always find a way to elbow your way into the middle of it ……..
April 14th, 2008 at 4:21 pmThese – ancient adultery – are not the same as the modern adultery an identity, as a loving relationship.
I’m against adultery because it does hurt people, it is a betrayal of love. There is no equivalency with homosexual identity, no basis for your argument.
Secondly, I am not trying to enact laws that limit your or anyone else’s behavior on the basis of your religious beliefs.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:21 pmOkay, it’s a rare day off for me, and I’m enjoying temps in the mid 50’s, and soon, it’s T-ball practice for my twins. In other words, an almost perfect day. But alas, I had to read this thread.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:23 pmWhat have we learned?
That there is truly a “gay” agenda, and it’s coming to your town! Quick, lock your doors, hide your children, throw away your old Playboys, and for garsh sakes, turn of the Bravo channel. (snark)
Daryll of Parodyll still likes to use graphic terms regarding gay sex, and doesn’t have a clue that most gays want a loving accepted relationship, that sex is a benefit, not a requirement.
Daryll, ever the popular psuedo-(c)hristian, still will not capitalize God or Father. Nice respect there, Daryll-0.
Oh well, I’m off to coach. Hopefully, there won’t be any “gay parents” at the fields spreading their “agenda” of mass invasion. (snark again)
Finally, to our well respected posters here who have previously announced that they are gay, we love you! (That should put Daryll’s panties in a bunch!). Keep posting! Never, EVER, feel that you need to be silent!
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References in the article at
http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2553
April 14th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Hey dipshit
Ever hear of the term “reputable source(s)” ?
Look into it before posting more nonsensical links that are even more worthless than the garbage candidate the GOP have running for president………
April 14th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Reputation is all these guys have.
Link includes the source of the statistics which wass a friend of the court brief filed in the Texas Sodomy Case 2003 by GLBT type orgranization. These numbers are the numbers given to the SCOTUS by gay organizations.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:24 pmbitblt, I am faithful to my wife because I care about and respect her and because I value our relationship, not because I am obeying God.
And gay marriage becoming legal won’t change that even a little bit.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:24 pmbitblt Says:
“… is more important than obeying God.”
April 14th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Nice bank shot. A comment like this presupposes that there ABSOLUTELY is a Christian God…
April 14th, 2008 at 4:27 pmbitblt Says:
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References in the article at
http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2553
April 14th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Hey dipshit
Ever hear of the term “reputable source(s)” ?
Look into it before posting more nonsensical links that are even more worthless than the garbage candidate the GOP have running for president………
April 14th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Reputation is all these guys have.
Link includes the source of the statistics which wass a friend of the court brief filed in the Texas Sodomy Case 2003 by GLBT type orgranization. These numbers are the numbers given to the SCOTUS by gay organizations.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Which “gay organizations” , shithead ?
The Republican party ?
Could you be any more vague ?
April 14th, 2008 at 4:27 pmThe Republic of Stupidity Says:
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bitblt Says:
“… is more important than obeying God.”
April 14th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Nice bank shot. A comment like this presupposes that there ABSOLUTELY is a Christian God…
April 14th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
And that every individual in the US should be beholden to that supposed being ……….Land of the free , home of the brave ; except to religious dillwads like this bullshitblt jackass…………
April 14th, 2008 at 4:29 pmGosh, this is like TP in the old days, before registration.
One giant, non-stop slap fight!
April 14th, 2008 at 4:30 pmMy point EXACTLY, MC.
T’anks fer tha back up.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:31 pmMCMetal Says:
Which “gay organizations” , shithead ?
The Republican party ?
Could you be any more vague ?
April 14th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Check the references at the link if you’re interested.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:31 pmTrue, but there have been some very good points made, as well as some top-notch snark.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:31 pmI’m glad my Christianity flowed from the loving acceptance and grace of my paternal grandparents and parents. If Daryll and bitblt were my childhood role models, I would be an atheist. There is no Good News in their media.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:32 pmi read the crap Daryll posts and the end to “There Will be Blood” comes to mind. go figure!
where’s my bowling pin?
April 14th, 2008 at 4:34 pmWell, ralph, that’s the beauty of the free market economy.
Yes… an awful lot of really bad twaddle gets thrown out there for mass consumption, but the few good bits that make it upstream and successfully spawn, so to speak, can grow up to be really, really good snarks.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:34 pmbitblt Says:
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Which “gay organizations” , shithead ?
The Republican party ?
Could you be any more vague ?
April 14th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Check the references at the link if you’re interested.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Post the links (if there are actually any , which I doubt)
The onus falls on you to prove what you have claimed (which is not very likely) ; not for others to have to do any type of searching because of an idiotic claim by a GOP/Chimpy backing , Bible thumping skid mark………..
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Shayne Says:
L. Hussein Annie Says:
Hmmmm. I believe we’re in far more danger from the legions of STUPID PEOPLE than we are from ‘the gays’.
Let’s get rid of them instead!
April 14th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
And gay stupid people are the worst. You know, REPUBLICANS.
The Hopium addicts at Americablog prove that gays ‘democrats’ can be just as stupid if not more so. It’s been a disgrace to see this primary season, how rabid and lunatic and cultish the Hopiums have been. When you consider how anti-gay Obama was, refusing to even have his picture taken with gay and gay friendly politicians in San Francisco, it’s shameful to see how stupid people have been in following him like a b**ch in heat!
April 14th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
Yeah , we desperately need a true heroine dodging non-existent gunfire while voting in favor of Kyl-Lieberman and Chimpy’s Idiotic Iraq Adventure…………..
April 14th, 2008 at 4:42 pmLividLib! Saw that movie Sat night, and Daryll did come to mind… Eli in a nutshell, and emphasis on nut.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:43 pmOK guys. Someone is gonna have to explain how the Animal Channel is a hotbed of gaydom. If anything, all the heterosexual sex of animals mating in the wilderness seems a little raunchy to me.
Havent’ seen on animal channel a tape yet of 2 lesbian bighorn sheep…… Although it happens all the time.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:45 pmLesbian bighorn sheep butting heads on the Animal Channel?
Whoa… I’m gonna hafta git me a TV ‘n sign up fer cable, El Pronto!
April 14th, 2008 at 4:52 pmMCMetal Says:
The Republic of Stupidity Says:
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bitblt Says:
“… is more important than obeying God.”
April 14th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Nice bank shot. A comment like this presupposes that there ABSOLUTELY is a Christian God…
April 14th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
And that every individual in the US should be beholden to that supposed being ……….Land of the free , home of the brave ; except to religious dillwads like this bullshitblt jackass…………
April 14th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
For you edification…
If you don’t want to be edified, don’t read.
More, much more, at
April 14th, 2008 at 4:53 pmhttp://www.thomas.gov/
H. RES. 888
Next: The ban on “rainbow” sprinkles at the all new Dunkin Dognuts.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:59 pmI hope batsh*t Sally Kern has some advice on how I can protect the rest of my family from being infiltrated by my gay daughter.
What a frickin a**wipe she is.
April 14th, 2008 at 5:01 pmMapleStreet Says:
April 14th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
OK guys. Someone is gonna have to explain how the Animal Channel is a hotbed of gaydom.
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The romantic story of Wendell and Cass, tuxedo-clad life partners, as told by their keeper
‘Same-sex relationships in the animal kingdom are more common than most people think. In fact, in his 1999 book, “Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity,” biologist Bruce Bagemihl catalogs the unconventional sexual behaviors — including bisexuality and transvestite tendencies — of almost 200 different animals.
http://www.emperor-penguin.com/gay-penguins.html
April 14th, 2008 at 5:01 pmSally Kern is the a**wipe, that is ;)
April 14th, 2008 at 5:02 pmSomeone please clue in ralph as to bitblt’s purpose in its post of 4:53pm.
Is bitblt trying to make the argument that, since the Founding Fathers struggled with the role of religion in language both official and not, and included references to a “Creator” in eloquent documents, we should take this as evidence that there is absolutely a God as Christians imagine one?
Or is bitblt suggesting that, because Thomas Jefferson referenced The Creator four times in the Declaration of Independence, that we as a nation are beholden to this God?
ralph is utterly dumbfounded by what bitblt is trying to say.
April 14th, 2008 at 5:05 pmAnd here’s a little edification right back at ya, bitblt…
How interesting that bitblt would quote “SOMETHING” but put no link up for the quote. It’s from House Resolution 888, which apparently HAS NOT BEEN PASSED yet.
http://www.aupagans.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=57&Itemid=2
110th CONGRESS House Resolution 888 – “American Religious History Week”. Another Religious Right attempt at rewriting the U.S. Constitution.
Sorry, bitblt. My original point stands. What you surrepitiously quote in no way proves absolutely the existence of a Christian God, the rather misguided and befuddled desires of Christina legislators notwithstanding.
April 14th, 2008 at 5:07 pmThe Republic of Stupidity Says:
And here’s a little edification right back at ya, bitblt…
How interesting that bitblt would quote “SOMETHING” but put no link up for the quote. It’s from House Resolution 888, which apparently HAS NOT BEEN PASSED yet.
http://www.aupagans.org/ index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=57&Itemid=2
110th CONGRESS House Resolution 888 – “American Religious History Week”. Another Religious Right attempt at rewriting the U.S. Constitution.
Sorry, bitblt. My original point stands. What you surrepitiously quote in no way proves absolutely the existence of a Christian God, the rather misguided and befuddled desires of Christina legislators notwithstanding.
April 14th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Not trying to prove the existence of a Christian God.
Believe He’s already taken care of that!
Trying to prove that there are now, as in the past, many who believe in the Christian God, the Creator.
April 14th, 2008 at 5:12 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
ralph is utterly dumbfounded by what bitblt is trying to say.
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TRoS thinks that bitblt is trying an end run around the issue by quoting not the Constitution, but House Resolution 888…
110th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. RES. 888
Affirming the rich spiritual and religious history of our Nation’s founding and subsequent history and expressing support for designation of the first week in May as `American Religious History Week’ for the appreciation of and education on America’s history of religious faith.
House Resolution 888 has not passed yet. bitblt is being disingenuous here.
April 14th, 2008 at 5:13 pmbtlbit continues to be deliberately and determinedly confused.
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Not trying to prove the existence of a Christian God.
Believe He’s already taken care of that!
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btlbit’s prior statement ABSOLUTELY presupposed the existence of a Christian god, which CANNOT be proven, or disproven.
BELIEF and FAITH are not fact, no matter what desperately bitblt wishes it so.
TRoS could care less what bitblt and his ***cough…*** “Christian cronies” CHOOSE to believe, or what entity they CHOOSE to worship, as long as they keep it to themselves, but bitblt CANNOT prove his “Christian god” exists…
April 14th, 2008 at 5:19 pmI leave to talk to my kid and all of a sudden Democrats who support Obama are as stupid as Republicans who are Republicans. Way to unite the party Clintonistas. When McCain is inaugurated you rabid Hillaryphiles will have yourselves to blame. But that’s what you want isn’t it, to keep the incumbency open for Hillary in 2012.
April 14th, 2008 at 5:21 pmRUC is certain, due to his unshakable faith in Crom, gloomy god of Cimmeria, that if the House of Representatives passes HR 888, said house will be destroyed by angry mobs of Hyrkanian hillmen within a week of said passage.
April 14th, 2008 at 5:23 pmThe Republic of Stupidity Says:
House Resolution 888 has not passed yet. bitblt is being disingenuous here.
April 14th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
bitblt never suggested it had passed. Perhaps you’re the one being disingenuous by suggesting that bitblt had suggested it passed.
It does show 83 sponsors, and the resolution itself is simply a compilation of what many people already know about the Christian Heritage of the USA.
April 14th, 2008 at 5:24 pmI don’t know if what bitbit has is curable as somebody questioned earlier but it appears to be contagious. If you guys are going to communicate with bitbit please wear your masks and gloves until we isolate the pathogen.
April 14th, 2008 at 5:27 pmThe Republic of Stupidity Says:
btlbit continues to be deliberately and determinedly confused.
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Not trying to prove the existence of a Christian God.
Believe He’s already taken care of that!
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btlbit’s prior statement ABSOLUTELY presupposed the existence of a Christian god, which CANNOT be proven, or disproven.
BELIEF and FAITH are not fact, no matter what desperately bitblt wishes it so.
TRoS could care less what bitblt and his ***cough…*** “Christian cronies” CHOOSE to believe, or what entity they CHOOSE to worship, as long as they keep it to themselves, but bitblt CANNOT prove his “Christian god” exists…
April 14th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
That’s all well a good there TRoS, but you can prove that the “Christian God” doesn’t exist.
H.Res. 888 indicates that now, and in the past, many take the influence of belief in this “Christian God” as an enormously positive influence in the US.
April 14th, 2008 at 5:28 pmSeriously?
And when discussing social policy, do you find it necessary or even useful to prove that some believe abortion is murder?
April 14th, 2008 at 5:29 pmbitblt clings to his confusion as though it were some sort of “magic” safety blanky.
bitblt has tried twice now to float his PERSONAL OPINION on the existence of a Christian god as though it were PROOF of said god’s existence.
TROS, again, could care less how many little bitblts out there CHOOSE to believe in this god. Belief, one more time, is not FACT.
One more time, bitblt is either very confused, or very dishonest, or possibly both.
April 14th, 2008 at 5:29 pmH.Res. 888 indicates that now, and in the past, many take the influence of belief in this “Christian God” as an enormously positive influence in the US.
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Of course, it also goes w/out saying that many are also tired of hearing about it and just wish “Christians” had the maturity, intelligence, and good taste to just keep their primitive superstitions to themselves.
April 14th, 2008 at 5:33 pmralph wonders what this “compilation of what many people already know about the Christian Heritage of the USA” was intended to add to the conversation.
was bitblt seeking to derail the debate? Or simply make itself feel more secure in the face of an unprovable assertion?
ralph is puzzled. But then ralph is often puzzled by bitblt’s postings.
April 14th, 2008 at 5:33 pmbitlbt was most likely hoping to skip away from its prior, utterly unprovable contention as to the existence of a Christian god.
bitblt is too prideful and cannot stand to admit that bitblt stepped in a pile of Chney w/ that one.
April 14th, 2008 at 5:35 pmSaaaay… isn’t Pride one of the Seven Deadly Sins?
Hmmmm…..
April 14th, 2008 at 5:36 pmhave recently been examining all the known superstitions of the world, and do not find in our particular superstition (Christianity) one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology.
April 14th, 2008 at 5:41 pmThomas Jefferson
Gee… where’d bitblt go?
This was jes’ gittin’ innerestin’…
April 14th, 2008 at 5:48 pmbitblt Says:
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The Republic of Stupidity Says:
House Resolution 888 has not passed yet. bitblt is being disingenuous here.
April 14th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
bitblt never suggested it had passed. Perhaps you’re the one being disingenuous by suggesting that bitblt had suggested it passed.
It does show 83 sponsors, and the resolution itself is simply a compilation of what many people already know about the Christian Heritage of the USA.
April 14th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
Yeah
Most liberals KNOW that the majority of Founding Fathers were DEISTS , NOT CHRISTIANS ; that pretty much sums up the “Christian heritage” of the US……..It doesn’t exist , you Bible-thumping liar.
April 14th, 2008 at 5:51 pmL. Hussein Annie believes fervently in the existence of the Easter bunny, therefore, He exists.
L. Hussein Annie has spoken!
Pass the peeps!
April 14th, 2008 at 6:17 pmMmmmmmmmmmmm, PEEPS!!
April 14th, 2008 at 6:23 pmSally Kern Cob – The reason s many Okla-homo’s escape to Eureka Springs, AR.
April 14th, 2008 at 6:26 pmThose AFA lunatics sure are funny.
I think I should help them a little and tell them a little secret. They can stop now. I FOUND THE GAY AGENDA!
Have at em AFA!
http://www.bettybowers.com/homoagenda.html
Praise the Lord!
The Homosexual Agenda
8:00 a.m. Wake up. Wonder where you are.
8:01 a.m. Realize you are lying on 100 percent cotton sheets of at least a 300 count, so don’t panic; you’re not slumming.
8:02 a.m. Realize you are actually in your own bed for a change. Wake stranger next to you and tell them you are late for work so won’t be able to cook breakfast for them. Mutter “sorry” as you help him look for his far-flung underwear. You find out that you tore his boxers while ripping them off him last night, so you “loan” him a pair of boxer-briefs, but not the new ones because you never intend to see him again.
8:05 a.m. Tell the stranger, whose name eludes you, “It was fun. I’ll give you a call,” as you usher him out the door, avoiding his egregious morning-breath.
AND SO IT GOES!
April 14th, 2008 at 7:42 pmWant to know how this AFA dvd came to be?
Eureka Springs has a Domestic Partnership Registry (DPR). The DPR is the only one in the state. So far, it has attracted 170 couples from 34 cities in Arkansas and 11 different states, including Texas, Florida and Maryland.
For these folks, the DPR has deep personal meaning, even though it conveys no tangible benefits or protections. Some employers, however, will recognize it for extending health insurance to the partner of an employee.
The DPR became law on June 22, 2007, after the Eureka Springs City Council unanimously approved it on three separate votes over the course of three months.
Not every one in the Swish Alps of the Ozarks was thrilled wit the DPR. The AFA was called in.
To find out more, and to see how the locals reacted, read the local BB Geekfest thread http://geekfest.com/showthread.php?t=144594&highlight=coming+to+your+town&page=6
2 weeks ago Eureka hosted their Spring Diversity Weekend. Video of what took place in the City Basin Spring Park http://esartv.com/pda08/motherbear/
April 14th, 2008 at 7:54 pmDamn, I missed it. **sniff**
April 14th, 2008 at 8:11 pmHi Z.
It was pretty entertaining… first Darryl appeared in a cloud of sulphurous smoke…
And then bitblt showed up, referring to itself in the 3rd person, as usual.
And then the clown car pulled up and dozens of penguins in little tuxedos popped out and started waddling around the place… the lights went out, someone fired off a gun… and when the Shore Patrol came through the door, penguins were running left and right…
April 14th, 2008 at 8:35 pmLooks like I bugged out early, having had all the fun I could spare with Daryll this afternoon. I think RUC or Ralph called for a homophobic dog-whistle article every Monday to start the week right. I second this. I need a shot at bitblt, dammit!
April 14th, 2008 at 10:31 pmA while ago, on the same subject, someone came up with the following quote: “We are lucky that Nature doesn’t care and God has no power on this Earth”. As per Daryll… I think you are dying to get out of the closet! Come out men… fear nothing… it will be OK!
April 15th, 2008 at 1:17 amSouthern Man Says:
You should have hung out here instead of that place that nobody goes to. The zoo is for watching animals in there own habitat. [Sarcasim On]
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The Zoo had 12,000 plus hits on Saturday,*sshat. That’s pretty far from “that place where nobody goes…”
What’s “Sarcasim”???
April 15th, 2008 at 1:25 amHey TRoS,
Now I really feel bad — I missed the penguins! They really are the life of the party, right after polar bears, of course.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:27 amSouthern Man Says:
If I lost my license to make a living, I guess I would be here to make a living too! Fortunately, I am a tax paying citizen who pays my bills and contributes more than rhetoric to society. F-ing sad that some pretend to be what they have yet to achieve to be. If being mad at what you cannot control makes us standard people. then why expect more from our leaders? Havea shot and expect more, like Hillary!
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Has this cretin been drinking? WTF is this supposed to mean?
…that some pretend to be what they have… yet to achieve… to be???
Can anybody here translate gibberish?
April 15th, 2008 at 1:27 amHi Z…
Were you lurking?
Yeah… those penguins… they allus make any party THE party to be at.
Especially in those cute little tuxedos.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:29 amSouthern Man Says:
Zooey Says:
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Damn, I missed it. **sniff**
April 14th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
You should have hung out here instead of that place that nobody goes to. The zoo is for watching animals in there own habitat. [Sarcasim On]
April 15th, 2008 at 12:51 am
Gosh, I haven’t even been here to be mean to you lately, and you’re just johnny-on-the-spot with spouting off shit you know nothing about.
TRoS is right about the views on Saturday — over 12,000 — and we’re approaching the 250,000 view mark in the next day or so.
Maybe you should start your own blog, people might care what you have to say.
Of course, I’m just being polite…
April 15th, 2008 at 1:31 amIt was pretty funny here this afternoon.
Kinda like the old days, before TP put the registration system in place…
Just one, big non-stop slap fight w/ the Killer Klown Posse.
I hafta say, that Darryl is a hoot…
April 15th, 2008 at 1:32 amHi, TRoS. No, I’ve been in school all day, until about 45 minutes ago. Now I’m just trying to relax enough to sleep.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:33 amAre the “flags” gone forever? Do you know?
April 15th, 2008 at 1:34 amWell, sorry you missed today’s action.
It was pretty entertaining.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:34 amNo. Amanda (?) posted a comment about that. Said they got kinda disabled temporarily due to some of the work they were doing on the site. And that they’d be back shortly. I think her comment is in the early part of this thread.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:38 amThe trolls are pretty predictable on these types of threads. Hey, I have an idea! Let’s all mind our own business, and see how that works out!
April 15th, 2008 at 1:38 amOh good. As long as they’re not gone forever. :-)
April 15th, 2008 at 1:40 amI must confess… I do enjoy a brisk afternoon of Whack-a-Troll™ from time to time, and today’s round was a good ‘un.
Trying to relax? May I suggest a fine, vintage Box O’ Wine?
April 15th, 2008 at 1:42 amAmanda assured us the flags would be back and working.
There certainly were enough cries for them today.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:43 amI would love some nice Box O’ Wine, but I have to be up early tomorrow. Must…be…strong…
April 15th, 2008 at 1:45 amOh come on… life is short…
And the Box O’ Wine is calling… I also have some nice slices of cheese…
April 15th, 2008 at 1:47 amIndividually wrapped for my protection…?
April 15th, 2008 at 1:48 amI was just looking more closely at the topic of this thread. The people supposedly buying this video must know that teh gays are already there….mustn’t they?
April 15th, 2008 at 1:51 amI’m more concerned about the Christians who just took over our City Council, than I am about any invasion of teh gay.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:52 amOf course the slices are individually wrapped for your protection.
What od I look like a Frenchman? Er, Frenchbear?
You really want a scare/laugh?
Go to the top of the thread, the actual article, and click on the link that takes you to the actual preview for the dvd.
Where… do… they FIND these people? One of the trolls was kvetching about the stats Dr Matt posted. Sum’pin about how only 1 or 2% of the population is actually gay.
1 or 2%???? How can they be so terrified of such a small group? Apparently gays are an unstoppable, super powerful force, if such a tiny percentage of the population can take over so easily.
April 15th, 2008 at 1:56 am.
Q U E S T I O N:
How do Loyalist(R) Christians live up to God’s/Christ’s commandments and when they refuse to love their neighbor as they would have that neighbor love them in return; When they advocate war, death and destruction when God’s law clearly states Thou Shall NOT Kill; How are they Peace Makers when they prefer to spread fear and hate; When they judge in defiance of NOT to least they be judged BY God in that same measure?
Their god is NOT a god one of love, compassion and acceptance but instead one of intolerance, hate and deceit… THE ANT-Christ.
Keep on believing…
Worship that false god, that Golden Calf, forsaking the Golden Rule.
You, then, shall be known by your fruit!
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April 15th, 2008 at 2:22 amAdditional history from http://www.thomas.gov H. Res. 888
A fascinating, concise history of the influence of Christianity in our nation.
April 15th, 2008 at 10:07 ambitblt Says:
A fascinating, concise history of the influence of Christianity in our nation.
April 15th, 2008 at 10:07 am
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And bitblt continues to deliberately mislead and talk out the side of bitblt’s mouth.
Bitblt wasn’t asked about the INFLUENCE of Christian faith on this country.
Bitblt was called out for trying to pass Bitblt’s OWN PERSONAL assumptions off as fact. Again, no matter how much Bitblt wishes it to be so, faith and belief are not fact. No matter how many frightened little bitblts desperately want to belive in this Christian god, their neediness doesn’t make it a fact that this god exists.
Faith is only faith, not fact.
That is what bitblt was questioned over. bitblt refuses to acknowledge that.
bitblt is a hypocrit.
bitblt is also sneaky. Coming back onto a thread the next day, hoping to get the last word in and thereby appearing, falsely, to have somehow ‘won” the argument.
bitblt is a phony.
April 15th, 2008 at 10:46 amTRoS is very astute regarding bitblt.
April 15th, 2008 at 11:02 amDamn, did I miss all the fun again?
April 15th, 2008 at 1:39 pmAlso, I feel very free to use the term “hay-seed” since I, myself, happen to be one. Just wanted to clarify that before I got jumped by a bunch of hillbillies. I am tolerant, don’t think of me otherwise. Thanks. Happy to be here!
April 15th, 2008 at 2:06 pmOh, boy! Fun with statutes! Here’s a very special one for you, bitblt, from the Treaty of Peace and Friendship signed at Tripoli on Nov. 4, 1796, and ratified by the United States Senate on Jun. 10, 1797. Article 11 says:
As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion,-as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen,-and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
Those crazy Founding Fathers! Who knew they were Fifth Columns against Christian evangelism?
April 15th, 2008 at 2:31 pmThe Republic of Stupidity Says:
April 15th, 2008 at 10:46 am
And bitblt continues to deliberately mislead and talk out the side of bitblt’s mouth.
Attacking bitblt instead of this ideas is so very Democrat of you.
Actually, bitblt is very predictable. He simply questions every question.
bitblt is so very predictable that TRoS probably knows what bitblt will posts before it’s written. Unless the “S” in “TRoS” is more that just a handle TRoS could probably just not read bitblt’s posts. You may have noticed that the poster’s handle is now at the top of the post.
bitblt says what he believes. There is nothing misleading in it.
Bitblt wasn’t asked about the INFLUENCE of Christian faith on this country.
The question that bitblt is currently considering is whether the U.S. will continue being a nation worth preserving without the influence of Christianity. Why is this question important on another thread about homosexuality?
Many conservative Christians believe the homosexuality will be the vehicle used to silence Christians.
In addition, bitblt believes he, as well as TRoS, enjoys the fruits of the past Christians who have made the U.S. the nation it is today. Further, bitblt believes TRoS has the responsibility to acknowledge that the U.S. would not be the nation it is today without the influence of Christianity and the Bible.
If TRoS can think of an influence – other than Christianity – that would have made or will make the US a better nation, bitblt would appreciate hearing about it.
Bitblt was called out for trying to pass Bitblt’s OWN PERSONAL assumptions off as fact.
…called out…
Ok. I got it. bitblt will play Clint Eastwood and you can play Eli Wallach.
Again, no matter how much Bitblt wishes it to be so, faith and belief are not fact.
What is this tautology day?
Fact is, bitblt believes the Jesus Christ is the Son of God. You make quote bitblt in stating that his faith is a fact.
You got something better?
No matter how many frightened little bitblts desperately want to belive in this Christian god, their neediness doesn’t make it a fact that this god exists.
As bitblt previously said, your saying this doesn’t mean that you have disproved the existence of the Christian God. It doesn’t prove that one belief, or lack of belief, is better that another. It doesn’t really prove anything.
Besides, to whom, to what, do all the little TRoSs pray that there is no God?
It bitblt’s wrong, so what? If TRoS is wrong…uh…oh!
Faith is only faith, not fact.
What is this tautology day?
Faith is only faith, not fact. This is true.
That faith exists is a fact to which bitblt can atest, …
and so can others.
But the existence of faith, and of faith based on fact, is a fact. One to which bitblt will readily testify. Christianity is based on the accounts of Christ’s resurrection. Christians consider that resurrection a fact.
Believe the Bible has some comments on this very thing – the existence of faith.
The Bible says if you had the facts you wouldn’t need faith, and it also says that without faith it is impossible to be pleasing to God. Many Christians find this is a little confusing. bitblt is one of them. In essence, the faith arrangement means that God gets all the glory.
Since TRoS doesn’t appear ready to bow his knee to Christ, I guess he’s simply opted out.
That is what bitblt was questioned over. bitblt refuses to acknowledge that.
bitblt is a hypocrit.
Remains to be proven. bitblt doesn’t believe that one who believes nothing – which seems to describe TRoS though this is a very assumptive statement – has any special abilities in the area of judging Christians.
Since there seems to be something unattractive about this to TRoS, does he promise to not respond to the post by hypocrites – especially bitblt’s.
bitblt is also sneaky. Coming back onto a thread the next day, hoping to get the last word in and thereby appearing, falsely, to have somehow ‘won” the argument.
Didn’t realize there was a time limit and that TP had appointed TRoS the time keeper. Must have missed that memo,… again.
bitblt is a phony.
This is probably not true – as if it matters on an anonymous news blog. bitblt does have a good voice and stands up tall. And here bitblt has worried that his post were so repetitious that even he would start finding them boring.
Besides, bitblt is picky about those influences to which to responds, and you, TRoS, don’t make the cut – as if it matters on an anonymous news blog.
From one of the founders who wasn’t a deist.
First two block quotes are from H.Res. 888. The last one is from http://www.wallbuilders.com.
BTW, TRoS, believe TP posters need some references on that assertion that most of the founders were deists.
April 15th, 2008 at 3:01 pmRed Pill Says:
April 15th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
April 15th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Wow, bitblt–you really nailed me there. One problem: because current legislators–hardly an objective lot, they–selectively employ quotes and facts disingenuously to revise history, does not in fact change the actual past.
To say that spirituality and Christian theology have influenced the American experience is a historically reliable claim; to argue that the United States was explicitly founded on the Christian variant of monotheistic belief is both unhistorical and false. I don’t care what contemporary legislation you throw at me–it will still be false. I wouldn’t be surprised if Rep. Lynn Westmoreland of Georgia supports that bill–you know, the guy who wanted to force a display of the Ten Commandments in public facilities, and yet could not name them when asked by Stephen Colbert?
Being a pluralistic nation in no way prohibits your ability to worship and believe as you please; artificially superimposing a Christian worldview upon our national civil and legal traditions to somehow redefine the United States as a “Christian nation”, on the other hand, is not only unhistorical, it’s fascist.
April 15th, 2008 at 3:30 pmbitblt is very entertaining, in a sad sort of way, after a while.
bitblt INSISTS on perpetuating its lies.
bitblt was never asked ONCE about the influence of ***cough…*** “Christian belief systems” on this country. Rather, bitblt was called out for trying to pass off bitblt’s PERSONAL beliefs as fact.
bitblt can post longer and longer excepts from wherever bitblt finds them, and this will not change one iota.
bitblt’s PERSONAL beliefs are NOT proof of the existence of a Christian god, no matter how hard bitblt tries to foist this nonsense off on others.
bitblt is very dishonest in its presentation.
bitblt is a hypocrit, a liar, and a phony.
Opinions, like beliefs, or faith, are NEVER facts.
bitblt can have all the faith it wants, but it CANNOT prove its god exists.
April 15th, 2008 at 3:50 pmBesides, bitblt is picky about those influences to which to responds, and you, TRoS, don’t make the cut – as if it matters on an anonymous news blog.
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This just gets funnier by the post.
And yet here is bitblt, responding to me, again.
April 15th, 2008 at 3:52 pmbitblt makes comments about “Tautology Day” yet talks in endless circles w/out once addressing the central issue.
bitblt’s believes are not facts.
bitblt’s belief in a Christian god doesn’t, in and of itself, make that God a fact.
bitblt is quite dishonest.
Very, very sad.
April 15th, 2008 at 3:55 pmChristianity is based on the accounts of Christ’s resurrection. Christians consider that resurrection a fact.
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there ya go, bitblt…
You CAN’T prove this happened. It is a myth.
Your faith may be a fact, but that doesn’t make God a fact.
YOU’RE the one talking in tautologies. Not me.
You haven’t ONCE addressed my initial comment.
And NOTHING you’ve posted since then has anything to do w/ what I said.
Yer just blowing smoke out yer Cheney, pal.
April 15th, 2008 at 3:59 pmRed Pill Says:
Wow, bitblt–you really nailed me there. One problem: because current legislators–hardly an objective lot, they–selectively employ quotes and facts disingenuously to revise history, does not in fact change the actual past.
To say that spirituality and Christian theology have influenced the American experience is a historically reliable claim; to argue that the United States was explicitly founded on the Christian variant of monotheistic belief is both unhistorical and false. I don’t care what contemporary legislation you throw at me–it will still be false. I wouldn’t be surprised if Rep. Lynn Westmoreland of Georgia supports that bill–you know, the guy who wanted to force a display of the Ten Commandments in public facilities, and yet could not name them when asked by Stephen Colbert?
Being a pluralistic nation in no way prohibits your ability to worship and believe as you please; artificially superimposing a Christian worldview upon our national civil and legal traditions to somehow redefine the United States as a “Christian nation”, on the other hand, is not only unhistorical, it’s fascist.
April 15th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Well, RP the Treaty of Tripoli is often quoted on TP. bitblt usually finds a quote from John Adams made at a later date to show that what the treaty explicitly said was not the only explicit thought of the founders.
Amazing, bitblt really has no disagreement with what you say in this post. bitblt doesn’t usually say that the U.S. is a Christian nation though he will quote those who say this like in the declarations from the US Supreme Court above.
What bitblt says is this; the U.S. was a nation for a Christian people.
This doesn’t seem to be contrary to your remark, “; to argue that the United States was explicitly founded on the Christian variant of monotheistic belief is both unhistorical and false,” at least to bitblt.
bitblt does promote the idea that without the influence of Christianity and the Bible there would not be a US – at least the US we know. This is not the same as saying the U.S. was founded to promote Christianity though it’s easy to find those who believe this.
The natural conclusion of this idea is will there be a US – at least a US worth preserving – without the influence of Christianity and Bible?
Being a pluralistic nation in no way prohibits your ability to worship and believe as you please; artificially superimposing a Christian worldview upon our national civil and legal traditions to somehow redefine the United States as a “Christian nation”, on the other hand, is not only unhistorical, it’s fascist.
Though bitblt doesn’t disagree with this paragraph, he finds it more troublesome. Rather that try to break it down bitblt will ask a couple of question. This is the first question: What is a better influence on the US than Christianity?
bitblt believes that there is a need for a common “something” to hold the nation together. For the founders part of that common “something” seems to be the morality associated with Christianity. For example, early state oaths of office included the declaration that the office holder was a Christian. This is because the belief was that an office holder was responsible to God because God had ordained government. So the second question is this: what in a pluralistic, diverse society is that “something” that will keep the united in United States?
BTW, bitblt believes that the idea of justice comes from God. So to bitblt this “…a Christian worldview upon our national civil and legal traditions…” is all but a necessity, not by “…superimposing…” but by choosing.
If a Christian worldview is not a necessity, what will replace it?
Guess that’s three questions.
We don’t call the founders fascists because they let their Christian view influence the government.
Blockquote from H.Res. 888
April 15th, 2008 at 4:25 pmCourse, one could also point out, the “Christians” ***cough… cough…*** who founded this country and had such a beneficial influence on its development also had no problem w/ slaughtering Indians and owning slaves, for at least the first 250 years of the country’s existence.
Wonderful “influence” them Christians…
Wonder why they put that passage in the bill of rights about “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”…
But I digress. This whole argument started off with bitblt trying to pass off its personal beliefs as fact.
And bitblt is so prideful it cannot admit it is wrong.
April 15th, 2008 at 4:49 pmAgain, no matter how much Bitblt wishes it to be so, faith and belief are not fact.
What is this tautology day?
Fact is, bitblt believes the Jesus Christ is the Son of God. You make quote bitblt in stating that his faith is a fact.
You got something better?
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Amazing… just amazing.
Tautology…. do you even know what the word means?
April 15th, 2008 at 4:51 pmI’m happy to respond to your queries, bitblt, but I’d like to offer one of my own in return. It’s insufficient to argue the “influence of Christianity” in a universalist sense. Far better to recognize that the practice and application of Christian ethics has evolved over time. Christ explicitly repudiated political power as of this world, and enjoined his followers to dwell on the world hereafter. Since 1979, however, evangelicals have actively attempted to co-opt the political process and impose their understanding of ethics and morals–which have changed from Jesus’ time–upon those who do not share those beliefs, or have no beliefs altogether. The Great Commission was a call to evangelism through example, not through political agency. So, I respond to your question of “What is a better influence on the US than Christianity?” with a question of my own: which Christianity? If we’re talking about foundational doctrine, which Paul substantively and permanently altered to help expand the church among Gentiles, then I’m inclined to agree, with the caveat that Judaism, Buddhism, and yes, even Islam share basic ethical views and the agape principle. If we’re talking about the fundamentalist interpretation that has run roughshod over American politics and culture, then I can think of many influences that have proven far “better.”
bitblt believes that the idea of justice comes from God. So to bitblt this “…a Christian worldview upon our national civil and legal traditions…” is all but a necessity, not by “…superimposing…” but by choosing.
In acknowledging a choice here, you’ve partly answered your third question. There are alternatives, and you narrowly conceive of justice as the application of the divine, but “justice” as a concept in recorded history extends to polytheistic cultures in Babylon, Egypt, Greece, and Rome. Moreover, Kantian ethics give us the categorical imperative, a rationally-derived code predicated upon the first formulation, which reads: “Act only according to that maxim whereby you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law.” Deductively established, and yet mirroring one of Jesus’ primary and most consistent mandates: do unto others as you would have done to you. Ethics are not exclusively biblically derived. Not only do they predate the Bible, the codes of behavior within the Bible mirror other contemporary theologies, including Mithraism and Zoroastrianism.
Finally, in response to your second question, I’ll say this: self-interest. The Founding Fathers reckoned in Philadelphia with a system of government that would advance the general welfare without sacrificing unalienable individual rights (identified by John Locke–a rationalist–as natural, not divine, rights of man). To that end, the Constitution was founded to link the pursuit of self-interest by citizens, who Madison acknowledged were hardly angels, to the good of the state. Human beings have the capacity for self-limitation, and where they do not, law will suffice. Your interpretation of Christianity as the “something” holding us all together assumes a very low opinion of humanity, indeed, and smacks of an unsavory paternalism that is inconsistent with our political and cultural identity.
That said, I appreciate your civility.
April 15th, 2008 at 4:53 pmwhat sort of mayo is on that sandwich?
April 15th, 2008 at 10:17 pmJudge Roy Moore – why does bitblt always think Judge Roy Bean? – shows encroaching sexual anarchy – the homosexual agenda.
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World Net Daily, bitblt. Judge Roy “Ten Commandments Everywhere” Moore. Not objective by a long shot. I bid you farewell.
April 16th, 2008 at 1:08 pmI haven’t seen the AFA video, as I trust those leaving comments about it have, to remark about it. But as I read some of the comments, it makes me wonder… who are the intolerant bigots? If you say you are TOLERANT of homosexuals, it actually means that you think their lifestyle is WRONG, but that you willing to put up with it. I can say I am TOLERANT of people with pierced tongues, but I am INTOLERANT of murderers, rapists and child molesters. Personally, if I love someone, I would never tolerate or encourage them in any potentially destructive or deadly lifestyle.
July 3rd, 2008 at 9:35 am