Kagan claims Democrats want to ‘profit on this war.’
Kagan claims Democrats want to ‘profit on this war.’
During Gen. David Petraeus and Amb. Ryan Crocker’s testimony last week, lawmakers from both parties pointed out that U.S. taxpayers “are carrying a staggering burden” to pay for reconstruction in Iraq at the same time Iraq “rakes in massive amounts of oil revenues.” On his radio show last night, Hugh Hewitt asked surge architect Fred Kagan for his “assessment of that critique.” Kagan responded by wildly misinterpreting it, saying that critcs want “to make a profit on this war“:
KAGAN: Well, golly gee, I mean, you know, I thought it was no blood for oil, right? I mean, do we actually have an imperialistic party in this country? And is it actually the Democratic Party? I didn’t think that we’d gone into Iraq to make a profit on this war.
Listen here:
Over at Attackerman, Spencer Ackerman mocks Kagan’s “energetic non-sequitur” and points out that it’s war hawks who have actually profiteered from the war.
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Huh.. I didn’t know Halliburton, KBR, and all the other security contractors had ties to the Democratic Party… must be some of Hillary’s friends, huh?
April 15th, 2008 at 8:05 pm…and “golly gee”?
Is Kagan hanging out with Rumpsfelt?
I think we ought to make a buck or two. Halliburton, Blackwater and the rest of the war business have.
Bushco – spreading freedom, democracy and makin’ money!
April 15th, 2008 at 8:07 pmI didn’t know KBR and Halliburton were Democratic strongholds?
April 15th, 2008 at 8:10 pmNevar, sorry for the toes…
April 15th, 2008 at 8:10 pmThis man is not serious is he? Look at the facts that’s all. When this whole thing started it was a Republican majority that put it in motion and it’s contracts by the billions for the likes of Halliburping and Sewerwater or whatever. This is laughable. Fiction once again from the pie holes for fascism.
April 15th, 2008 at 8:11 pmInteresting interpretation. Apparently, the desire not to drive the country into penury equates to war profiteering. Someone light a match, because this gasbag needs to be ignited.
April 15th, 2008 at 8:12 pm“Kagan claims Democrats want to ‘profit on this war.’”
That’s a joke. Did he check Dick Cheney’s mattress and portfolio and the rest of the GOPs’ wallet, piggy bank, and assets?
April 15th, 2008 at 8:22 pmThis is too dumb to even reply to. The Republicans are becoming increasingly desperate and are grasping at straws. They haven’t learned yet that a piece of straw is pretty hard to hang on by.
April 15th, 2008 at 8:23 pmGolly Gee…unadulterated horseshit.
April 15th, 2008 at 8:26 pmHas anyone seen my muzzle?
April 15th, 2008 at 8:27 pmIs Kagan hanging out with Rumpsfelt?
Too graphic! Now, I need a stiff drink to erase that mental image.
April 15th, 2008 at 8:28 pmThanks for not running a picture of Kagan.
**shudder**
April 15th, 2008 at 8:31 pmSounds familiar.. like the trolls here trying to explain to us how Al Gore is just making things about global warming up to sell books, but somehow Exxon mobil is bringing us the unbiased truth out of the goodness of thier heart. Nevermind that, legally speaking, corporations are unable to have hearts.
April 15th, 2008 at 8:32 pmThe nerve of that fat little PNAC prick.
-AF
April 15th, 2008 at 8:35 pmAndrew Sullivan Is A Fraud
I didn’t think that we’d gone into Iraq to make a profit on this war.
This must be “opposite day.”
April 15th, 2008 at 8:35 pmNothing projects like a Neo-con or a Republican…
April 15th, 2008 at 8:37 pmKagan is right in a way. If it wasn’t for Iraq, the Progressive movement would still be marginalized. In a way we owe Bush for the fact we are on the Cusp of a historic victory that will lead to a Progressive America. The Iraq war has been a blessing in disguised.
April 15th, 2008 at 8:37 pmPlease, someone sodomize this guy with the fat end of a baseball bat! Preferably it will be a soldier back from Iraq.
April 15th, 2008 at 8:37 pmFrom Wiki:
Kagan authored the “real Iraq Study Group” report as the AEI’s hawkish rival to the ISG report of James Baker and Lee H. Hamilton in December 2006. The AEI report, titled Choosing Victory: A Plan for Success in Iraq, was released on January 5, 2007, and Kagan was said to have won-over the ear of President George W. Bush,[3] strongly influencing his subsequent “surge” plan for changing the course of the Iraq War. Along with retired Gen. Jack Keane, retired Col Joel Armstrong, and retired Maj Daniel Dwyer, Kagan is credited as one of the “intellectual architects” of the surge plan.[4]
And he snarkily says this…
“KAGAN: Well, golly gee, I mean, you know, I thought it was no blood for oil, right? I mean, do we actually have an imperialistic party in this country? And is it actually the Democratic Party? I didn’t think that we’d gone into Iraq to make a profit on this war.”
Wouldn’t you like to have a beer with this hometown sort of guy? I mean golly gee…
April 15th, 2008 at 8:44 pmFrank White Says:
In a way we owe Bush for the fact…
No, Bush is simply the end player. It has taken the American public fully 25 years to finally see reality. The neocon movement was well under way by 1980 when Raygun was head puppet. 41 pushed it along beautifully although he does not get the “credit” he deserves. It should have stopped in 1992 except that Clinton let the criminals off the hook shutting down the on going investigations of the Iran/Contra affair.
April 15th, 2008 at 8:53 pmtranslation: ok, so the war’s turned into a money pit — so what? ok, so you lost the home and the retirement fund — so what? the important thing is i’ve still got mine. don’t be such a greedhead!
April 15th, 2008 at 8:53 pmTurning into a money pit? That was their agenda from the start. Remember the scene in Fahrenheit 9/11 with the young corporatists at the conference dividing the spoils in advance? Where did Blackwater come from out of the blue? Can’t someone in congress have their staffs connect the dots? Do they know what a dot looks like? How much more evidence do you need? Stealing? From the American people and the next three generations of American people? Bitter, no. Just very, very angry. Impeach now.
April 15th, 2008 at 9:05 pmThis must be why they accuse others of wanting to cut and run. Profits. [Snark]
April 15th, 2008 at 9:19 pm22. questioneverything Says:
“Turning into a money pit? That was their agenda from the start.”
i’m not disagreeing but i think their agenda from the start was to turn iraq into a “money tree”. a money tree is an investment that keeps on giving. a “money pit” is an investment that consumes more capital than it produces.
money tree = good, mmmm
April 15th, 2008 at 9:36 pmmoney pit = bad, doh!
Will Kagen finally go away? I swear-to-God, this chicken hawk is everywhere, T.V., radio, and print. He’s selling a failed strategy and no-one is buying.
April 15th, 2008 at 9:37 pmSome Democrats probably do profit from the war. Any of them with investments in defense contractors, like Diane Feinstein.
April 15th, 2008 at 9:48 pmKagan still has a blubbery chin anyway.
April 15th, 2008 at 9:50 pmOne more time… Frank White is a troll.
April 15th, 2008 at 9:50 pmI’ve pointed out at least a half dozen times here now how Feinstein, thru her husband’s business dealings, has profited from this war .
April 15th, 2008 at 9:51 pmIraq=3 reasons: 1) Dubya’s revenge on Saddam; 2) Cheney’s payback to Halliburton for his asbestos settlement: and Chevron, et al.’s desire for favorable (cheap) acces to Iraq’s oil. Repugnant greed for American blood and taxpayer’s gold.
April 15th, 2008 at 9:54 pmOn what basis does this fat slob, mental case Kagan get so much publicity?
April 15th, 2008 at 9:55 pmMilitary historian? Bulls***, he’s just a weirdo that’s spent a lot a time alone reading books and fantasizing about armies and war.
In the words of Teddy Roosevelt….I could carve a better man out of a banana.
golly gee i’m a big fat wingnut welfare queen, and i hope the Boss is satisfied with my most recent pack of lies.
April 15th, 2008 at 10:19 pmWell, golly gee, Paul Wolfowitz and other neocons said that the Iraq thing would pay for itself. That’s how they sold the war when the fear factor wasn’t working enough. But now Fred Kagan thinks it’s OK for the American people to spend a trillion dollars on Bush’s folly. Especially insulting on tax day.
April 15th, 2008 at 10:28 pmFrom wiki:
April 15th, 2008 at 10:31 pm“Frederick along with his brother Robert Kagan, who is a member of the Aspen Strategy Group, and their father Donald are all signatories to the Project for the New American Century manifesto titled Rebuilding America’s Defenses (2000).[2]”
A guy tied to PNAC talks about profits from war…and in that document these people call out for a new Pearl Harbor. So Kagan, how did you celebrate the New Pearl Harbor?
Frank White Says:
In a way we owe Bush for the fact we are on the Cusp of a historic victory that will lead to a Progressive America.
April 15th, 2008 at 8:37 pm
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Enough with this “cusp” stuff. This election ain’t a sure thing yet. It’s like that old adage: don’t count your chickens before they’ve nuked Iran.
April 15th, 2008 at 11:37 pmanyone who thinks there’s a difference bewteen democrats and republicans doesn’t have their head screwed on right. they’re all crooked bastards that want to rip off the public.
April 16th, 2008 at 12:05 am.
Kagan projects as much as he makes me eject my lunch.
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April 16th, 2008 at 1:56 amVIDEO MASHUP: Neocon Fred Kagan Is A Liar
April 16th, 2008 at 3:09 amEvery time these neo-cons open their mouths they prove what idiots they are.
April 16th, 2008 at 4:03 amUm, who’s the ex-CEO of Halliburton again? A Democrat?
Republican projection knows no bounds.
April 16th, 2008 at 8:55 amI just lost it.
How can they lie so effortlessly?
How can they distort reality 180 degrees?
It is not the Democrats who sit on Bechtel, Halliburton boards and have stock in them…
April 16th, 2008 at 10:09 amIf our government is profiting, then what would losing look like?
He’s right, no blood for oil. No blood for $114 oil and Iraqis keeping it in reserve (putting out less than before the war) either.
If they’re sovereign then let them be more responsible.
April 16th, 2008 at 10:27 amThey lie and lie and lie because they know the more they do it, the more people will believe it. There’s a cartoon that has Cheney sitting next to Plato and arguing, ‘But surely you must agree, the truth comes from the repetition of a lie.’
April 16th, 2008 at 10:34 am“I’ve pointed out at least a half dozen times here now how Feinstein, thru her husband’s business dealings, has profited from this war .”
And so all Dems in and out of government are guilty by associaton and have no business criticizing the Bush admin’s war policy?
April 16th, 2008 at 2:31 pm